Legally Speaking Podcast

What if the litigation model we’ve relied on for decades… is actually broken? Today on the Legally Speaking Podcast™ Live, sponsored by Clio, our host Rob Hanna, sat down with Collin Williams, Founder & Chairman of New Era ADR, to explore how technology is reshaping the future of dispute resolution.Collin’s journey from Big Law to legal tech founder is a masterclass in courage, creativity, and conviction.Here’s what we uncovered:- The moment he realised traditional litigation was no longer fit for purpose- Why fear, not technology, is often the biggest barrier to innovation How - New Era ADR is making arbitration faster, fairer, and more accessible - What law firms must do now to stay ahead of the next wave of legal tech- Why diversity of thought is non-negotiable when building the future of law “Litigation shouldn’t take years or millions to deliver justice; technology can make it faster, fairer, and more human.” “The legal profession doesn’t need to be disrupted; it needs to evolve with purpose.”Collin’s passion for access to justice and innovation is contagious and a timely reminder that the legal world can, and should, work better for everyone.

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today’s minisode, we talk to Marina Harris. She is the Chief People Officer at Clio, where she leads the company’s global people and culture strategy. With a background that includes leadership roles at major organizations like Netflix and Wealthsimple, she brings deep expertise in scaling teams, fostering inclusive cultures, and driving employee engagement during rapid growth. At Clio, Marina focuses on sustaining a strong, people-first culture across a distributed workforce, advancing AI fluency among employees, and ensuring that diversity, inclusion, and belonging are truly embedded in the company’s values and daily practices.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Marina discussing:- Culture as a Foundation for Growth- Uniting Brilliance Across a Distributed Workforce- AI Fluency and Innovation in the Workplace- Diversity, Inclusion and Belonging as Lived Values- People Over Process: Hiring for Curiosity and Values FitConnect with Marina Harris here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/marina-harris-47ba74

What makes a great legal leader, and what brings one down? What happens when success becomes too comfortable? Today on the Legally Speaking Podcast ™️ sponsored by Clio, LinkedIn Live, I had the privilege of sitting down with Norman Bacal, former Managing Partner of Heenan Blaikie, Lionsgate Board Director, TEDx speaker, and bestselling author.Here’s what we uncovered: - The 3Cs every modern leader needs: Communication, Collaboration, Culture- The three truths about lawyers every manager must know- Why even great firms can crumble and how to rebuild with integrity- How to “rewire” your leadership for the next chapter of your career Norman’s candour and wisdom remind us that true leadership is not about avoiding failure it’s about learning, adapting, and leading again.

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today’s minisode, we get to speak with Reagan Attle. Reagan has been with Clio since 2017 and currently serves as the company’s Chief Marketing Officer. Over her eight+ year-long career there, she has played a pivotal role in shaping Clio’s brand evolution and global growth. Reagan has led the company’s marketing transformation, simultaneously modernising its look, tone and storytelling to reflect Clio’s mission of transforming the legal experience for all. At ClioCon 2025, she emphasised how marketing at Clio blends innovation with authenticity, using AI as a creative accelerator while staying rooted in real, human stories. Reagan is deeply committed to fostering community among legal professionals, ensuring that Clio’s customers feel connected, supported, and part of a shared mission.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Reagan discussing:- Clio’s Brand Evolution and Growth- Uniting Brilliance – The 2025 Theme- AI as a Creative Accelerator- Community at the Core- Mission-Driven and Future-FocusedConnect with Reagan Attle here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/reaganattle

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Samallie Kiyingi. Samallie is the former General Counsel of Standard Chartered Bank. She has a wealth of experience in financial servies in the public and private sectors. Samallie was also previously Director of Legal Services at African Export-Import Bank, Global Head of Securitisation Regulatory Policy at Deutsche Bank and Senior Associate at Clifford Chance. She is also an expert member of PRIME’s Finance Foundation. In 2021, Samallie was awarded General Counsel of the Year at the International Financial Law Review Africa Law Awards.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Samallie discussing:- Diverse and Global Legal Career- Influence of Heritage and Family Legacy- Lessons in Career Transitions and Adaptability- Leadership, Executive Mindset, and Commercial Awareness- Cultural Intelligence and Negotiation StyleConnect with Samallie Kiyingi here - https://sg.linkedin.com/in/samallie-kiyingi-26566213

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.In this double-bill minisode, we get to speak to both Jonathan Watson & John Foreman. Jonathan Watson, Clio’s Chief Technology Officer, and John Foreman, the company’s Chief Product Officer, are driving the next chapter of Clio’s innovation. With Jonathan’s eight years of engineering leadership and John’s product expertise from Mailchimp, they combine deep technical insight with a passion for simplicity and user experience. Together, they’re shaping Clio’s Intelligent Legal Work Platform — making legal technology more powerful, secure, and human-centred than ever before.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, John and Jonathan discussing:- An Inside Look Into Clio’s Intelligent Legal Work Platform- From Chat to Action: How Clio’s AI Redefines Legal Productivity- The Data and Discipline Behind Vincent by Clio- Listening at Scale: Turning Global Feedback into Smarter Products- Clio’s Vision for AI Teammates Across the Legal WorkflowConnect with Jonathan Watson here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/jonathanmwatsonConnect with John Foreman here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnwforeman

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.In the third minisode of this series, Curt Sigfstead returns as our guest. Curt is the Chief Financial Officer at Clio. He is responsible for managing Clioʼs financial affairs, including finance, accounting, capital, treasury, taxation, and corporate development. With over two decades of technology finance experience, he has held numerous senior finance leadership roles at companies including Clearco and J.P. Morgan. He sits on multiple nonprofit boards including C100, which supports Canadian technology entrepreneurs through investment and mentorship.   So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Curt discussing:- Building for Today, Investing for Tomorrow- Driving Through the Fog: Leading with Clarity in Uncertainty- Going Beyond the Balance Sheet and Measuring What Truly Matters- AI in Action: Transforming the Finance Engine- Preparation Meets Opportunity: The Timeless Rule of FinanceConnect with Curt Sigfstead here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtsigfstead

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.In this minisode, we get to speak with Ronnie Gurion. Ronnie is the Chief Operating Officer (COO) of Clio, where he oversees global operations, strategy and organisational scaling for one of the world’s leading legal technology companies. With an impressive background at major tech innovators like Uber and Airbnb, Ronnie brings deep expertise in guiding high-growth organizations through transformative expansion. At Clio, he’s played a pivotal role in maintaining the company’s award-winning culture, driving international growth and leading strategic moves such as the acquisitions of vLex and ShareDo—marking Clio’s bold entry into the enterprise legal market. Known for his hands-on leadership style and focus on long-term impact over short-term gains, Ronnie exemplifies Clio’s mission to transform the legal experience for all.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Ronnie discussing:- How Clio Balances Growth with Focus and Culture- Enterprise Ambitions: Inside Clio’s Bold Leap Beyond SMB Law- The Culture and Hiring Philosophy Behind Clio’s Success- How ronnie Builds Winning Mindsets for Long-Term Impact- Charting the Future: Diversification, Integration, and the Road to IPOConnect with Ronnie Gurion here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rgurion

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Nnamdi Emelifeonwu. Nnamdi is the Co-Founder & CEO of Definely. Named as 1 of the 50 fastest-growing tech companies, Definitely was founded by two former Magic Circle Lawyers. Nnamdi, a former Trainee Solicitor and Associate at Freshfields Bruchhaus Deringer, and his Co-Founder Feargus MacDaeid, set out to make legal documents more accessible with drafting, reviewing and understanding legal files.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Nnamdi discussing:- How Definely Was Born from a Visually Impaired Lawyer’s Challenge- Definely’s Mission to Make Legal Information Effortless to Understand- How Nnamdi and Feargus’ Practice Empowering the Modern Lawyer- Transforming Legal Contracts and Workflows to be More Streamlined- How Definely’s Customer-Centric Approach is Built with Lawyers, for LawyersConnect with Nnamdi Emelifeonwu here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nnamdiemelifeonwu/

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.In this exciting new miniseries, we kick things off at Clio Con in Boston by speaking to Jesse Harink and Nefra MacDonald. Nefra leads the team behind ClioCon, virtual events, field activations, and over 100 bar association partnerships worldwide. Known for her attention to detail and passion for delivering seamless, engaging experiences, she views ClioCon as a way to welcome thousands like guests to a meaningful, memorable event. Speaking is her happy place, and she thrives on creating inclusive, impactful environments. Jesse plays a key role in helping new team members integrate into Clio’s culture — especially during acquisitions. At ClioCon, he ensures energy is high, people feel included, and the human side of the event shines. As a co-host, he thrives in the spotlight, seeing his role as both guide and connector, helping attendees feel informed, welcomed, and excited throughout the experience.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Jesse and Nefra discussing:- Clio Con 2025: An Immersive, Attendee-Centered Experience- The Amazing Teamwork That Happens Behind the Scenes- Inclusivity and Wellbeing at the Core of Clio- The Importance of Building Community Through Connection- How to Be Always Planning, Always InnovatingConnect with Jesse Harink here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/jesseharinkConnect with Nefra MacDonald here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nefra-macdonald/