

Legally Speaking Podcast
Legally Speaking Podcast™
Inspiring Legal Minds. Transforming Legal Futures.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
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Aug 12, 2025 • 9min
LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025 - Shennind Awat-Ranai & Maria Madara - E20
On today’s episode of LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025, we get to speak with Shennind Awat-Ranai and Maria Madara. They are key members of the dynamic team at KaurMaxwell, a modern, tech-forward law firm known for its agile approach and commitment to innovation. Shen brings a future-focused mindset, particularly with his background in Web3, and champions the integration of legal tech to boost efficiency and client value. Maria complements this with a sharp understanding of generative AI and a passion for streamlining legal processes through smart automation. Together, they represent the new wave of legal professionals embracing change and driving meaningful transformation in the industry.🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:❓What are some of the biggest misconceptions lawyers still have about legal tech and AI?❓Why is attending events like Legal Tech Talk important for law firms, particularly smaller or more traditional ones?❓What challenges do larger law firms face when trying to adopt new legal technologies?❓What kind of tech-enabled changes do Shen and Maria predict for the legal industry by 2030?❓What’s missing from the current legal tech landscape, according to Shen and Maria?So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Shennind and Maria discussing:- How Law Firms Must Embrace Change To Stay Competitive- Why Legal Tech Will Do So Much to Improve Workload for Lawyers- The Importance Of Attending Conferences for Exposure and Innovation- The Need for Integrated, All-In-One Legal Tech Solutions- Future Legal Services Needing to Be Faster and More AutomatedConnect with Shennind here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/shennind-awat-ranai-b26418141/?originalSubdomain=ukConnect with Maria here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maria-madara-96738365/?originalSubdomain=uk

Aug 11, 2025 • 45min
She Breaks the Law: Closing the Gender Gap & Embracing Change with Priya Lele - S9E23
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I am delighted to be speaking with Priya Lele. Priya is a recognised global thought leader in legal technology, innovation and diversity. With experience as a Corporate Finance Lawyer, Director of Legal Transform and Operate at EY, Head of Legal Transformation at a regional law firm in Australia, and Legal Operations Client Solutions Lead at a global law firm in London, she has reshaped how legal services are delivered across continents.Priya is also the Co-Founder and Chair of ‘She Breaks the Law’, a global community of 4,000 women, collaborating to innovate the legal ecosystem.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Priya discussing:- Priya’s Non-Traditional Legal Career & Innovation Journey- The inspiration behind "She Breaks the Law" - How technology, Especially AI, is Transforming Legal Services.- Diversity, Inclusion and the "No Woman Left Behind" Report- Leadership, Mentorship, and Advice for Future Legal ProfessionalsConnect with Priya here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/priya-lele/

Aug 9, 2025 • 5min
LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025 - Anna Balabina - E19
On today’s episode, we are delighted to be speaking with Anna Balabina. She is the CFO and co-founder of casepal, a legal tech company focused on enhancing efficiency for lawyers through an enterprise-grade AI ecosystem. She is passionate about using technology to reduce repetitive legal tasks, such as document organization and information retrieval. At LegalTechTalk 2025, Anna emphasised that AI should be seen as a tool to support lawyers, not replace them. She values networking and gaining real industry insights through events like this, highlighting the growing momentum and innovation within the legal tech space.🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:❓What Is One Problem You Are Trying To Solve In The World Of Legal?❓What Is One Assumption About Legal Tech You Think Most People Still Get Wrong?❓Which Of This Year's Themes Speaks Loudest To You Right Now And Why?❓What Do You Hope Will Be Finally Fixed In Law By 2030?❓Why Is It Important To Come To Conferences Like Legal Tech Talk?So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Anna discussing:- Legal Tech Is Enhancing Efficiency and Saving Time For Lawyers- AI And Technology Are Tools That Support, Not Replace, Lawyers- Law And Tech Revolution is a Key Theme Driving Innovation- Legal Tech Industry is Rapidly Growing With More Evolving Companies- Conferences Like LegalTechTalk Provide Valuable Insights and Networking OpportunitiesConnect with Anna here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-balabina/?originalSubdomain=de

Aug 7, 2025 • 9min
LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025 - Aline Von Duering - E18
On today’s episode, we get to speak with Aline Von Duering. Aline is an Off-Counsel at Bonnard Lawson in Dubai and serves as President of the Skill Board for AIJA, the world’s largest young lawyers’ network. She is dedicated to addressing mental health challenges in the legal industry by empowering young lawyers to drive cultural change. At Legal Tech Talk 2025, she highlighted the importance of collaboration, the need for greater tech understanding in law, and the role of legal tech in improving transparency and mental well-being across the profession. 🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:❓ What’s The Problem You’re Trying To Solve Within The World Of Legal?❓ What’s One Assumption People Have About Legal Tech That’s Just Wrong?❓ Are There Any Sessions You’re Excited About Over The Coming Days?❓ What Will Clients Expect From Legal Services In 2030 That They Don’t Get Today?❓ What’s Been Your Biggest Aha Moment At 2025 Legal Tech Talk?So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Aline discussing:- Mental Health Remains A Major Challenge In The Legal Industry- Legal Tech Can Be Overwhelming Due To A Lack Of Knowledge And Resources- Collaboration Needs To Be Encouraged More Within The Legal Sector- Transparency Will Be A Key Expectation From Clients By 2030- The Growth And Improvement In Legal Tech, Especially In Data Security, Is PromisingConnect with Aline here - https://ae.linkedin.com/in/aline-von-duering

Aug 5, 2025 • 6min
LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025 - Kiyala Matanga - E17
On today’s episode of LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025, we have the honour of speaking with Kiyala Matanga. She is the Campus Vice President at the University of Law, London Moorgate, an SQE student, and a future trainee solicitor. She's passionate about helping aspiring lawyers position themselves for success, particularly by improving access to legal knowledge and opportunities. Kiyala actively uses platforms like LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok to share legal insights and support those at the early stages of their legal careers. She's especially focused on access to justice, legal education reform, and the importance of soft skills in the profession.🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:❓ What Problem Are You Trying To Solve In Legal?❓ What Is One Assumption People Have About Legal Tech That Might Be Incorrect?❓ What Sessions Have You Most Enjoyed Or Are Looking Forward To At Legal Tech Talk?❓ Which Of This Year's Themes Speaks Loudest To You And Why?❓ What Do You Hope Is One Thing That’s Finally Fixed In Law Five Years From Now?So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Kiyala discussing:- Legal Tech Is More Accessible Than People Think- Law Firms Value Efficiency Over Novelty- Access To Justice Is A Central Theme- Legal Tech Complements Rather Than Replaces Lawyers- Legal Education Needs To Be More HolisticConnect with Kiyala here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/kiyala-matanga-84281b217

Aug 4, 2025 • 30min
How AI Paralegals Revolutionise Legal Aid with Gus Neate, CEO & Co-Founder of Wilson AI - S9E22
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I am delighted to be joined by Gus Neate.Gus is the CEO and Co-Founder of WilsonAI, an AI-driven platform designed to streamline legal operations for businesses. An engineer by background, Gus qualified as a Private Equity Lawyer at Clifford Chance. He has experience working in the product team at legal tech platform, H4 and multiple in-house legal teams.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Gus discussing:- AI-Powered Legal Support and Making it Accessible- The Future Of Legal Professionals, Particularly Paralegals- Groundbreaking In-House Legal Transformations- Ethical AI Considerations Moving Ahead- Technological Legal Innovations from Wilson AIConnect with Gus here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gus-neate

Aug 2, 2025 • 8min
LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025 - Neeta Halai - E16
On today’s episode of LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025, we get to speak with Neeta Halai. She is a solicitor, trainer, and founder of New Heights Training. She's passionate about developing emotionally intelligent lawyers by combining legal expertise with human behaviour psychology, emotional intelligence (EQ), and language patterns. At Legal Tech Talk 2025, she moderated a panel on whether legal teams are falling behind in tech and led a workshop on authentic leadership in challenging times. Neeta emphasizes the importance of communication, connection, and EQ in navigating legal innovation. She’s also the author of Skilfully Passing the Solicitor's Qualifying Examination and offers a range of free resources through her website to support aspiring and practising lawyers.🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:❓ How Do You Stop Your Legal Team Falling Behind The Curve?❓ What Roles Do Communication And Collaboration Play In Legal Innovation?❓ How Can Lawyers Lead With Authenticity In Challenging Times?❓ What Will Clients Expect From Legal Services In Five Years?❓ How Do Human Skills Impact Technology And AI Adoption In Law?So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Neeta discussing:- Importance Of Emotional Intelligence In Legal Practice- Bridging The Gap Between Technology And Human Connection- Creating Holistic, Well-Rounded Lawyers- Legal Innovation Requires Collaboration And Communication- Future Of Law Involves Embracing AI Without Losing The Human TouchConnect with Neeta here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/neetahalai/

Jul 31, 2025 • 9min
LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025 - Alice Flacco - E15
On today’s episode of LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025, we have the pleasure of speaking with Alice Flacco. She is the General Counsel at Microport Scientific, overseeing global legal operations. Speaking at LegaTechTalk 2025, she emphasised the need for legal professionals to embrace technology as a tool for efficiency, not a threat. Alice highlighted the evolving role of GCs as strategic leaders, likening them to orchestra directors managing both tech and human expertise. Despite her demanding role, she advocates making time for conferences to stay connected, learn, and grow. Her key focus is freeing up time to think by leveraging legal ops and innovation.🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:❓ What is one major problem you're currently trying to solve in legal?❓ What common misconception do lawyers still have about legal technology?❓ Which of the six Legal Tech Talk themes resonates most with you and why?❓ What would you say to legal professionals who feel they don’t have time to attend conferences like this?❓ What is one thing you would like to see improved or fixed in legal services by 2030?So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Alice discussing:- Legal Tech Not Being the Enemy — It’s a Strategic Enabler- The GC Role Evolving From Legal Gatekeeper to Strategic Conductor- Time Investment in Conferences Yielding High ROI- How Efficiency Through Legal Ops & Tech Is Critical- Legal Innovation Being Tangible and RapidConnect with Alice here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceflacco/

Jul 29, 2025 • 10min
LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025 - Bernadette Bulacan - E14
On today’s episode of LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025, we speak with Bernadette Bulacan. She is the Chief Evangelist at Icertis, a company focused on transforming contracts into strategic assets using AI-powered intelligent contracting. At Legal Tech Talk 2025, she emphasised the shift from static, paper-based contracts to dynamic, data-driven tools that help organizations make better business decisions. She discussed how legal teams now need contract insights to manage global issues like tariffs and supply chains.🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:❓ How is Icertis leveraging AI to transform traditional contracts into strategic business tools?❓ What major changes has Bernadette observed in legal tech adoption over the past two decades?❓ In what ways are general counsel roles evolving to align more closely with enterprise objectives?❓ How will the integration of AI agents reshape legal practice and lawyer skillsets in the next five years?❓ What does Bernadette believe is essential for successfully transforming the legal industry?So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Bernadette discussing:- Transforming Contracts Into Strategic, AI-Powered Assets- Legaltech Adoption Accelerating Across the Industry- Growing Strategic Role of General Counsel- The Rise and Future Impact of AI Agents in Legal Practice- Why Collaboration, Data, and Technology are Important for Legal TransformationConnect with Bernadette here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernadettebulacan/

Jul 28, 2025 • 33min
The Legacy Lawyers Leave: Rethinking Loss, Grief & Family Past Paperwork - Dr Kimberly Harms - S9E21
On today's legally speaking podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by the wonderful Dr Kimberly harms. Dr harms is an international speaker with 30 years of dental, grief, conflict and transition management experience, she is an award winning Best Selling Author. She was the first woman president of the Minnesota Dental Association, and has served as the national spokesperson for the American Dental Association for 21 years. Dr harms is passionate about challenging societal norms surrounding death and end of life planning.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Kimberly discussing:- End-Of-Life Planning Being An Act Of Love, Not Just A Legal Requirement- Transparent Communication Preventing Family Conflicts After A Loved One's Death- Emotional Legacy: As Important As Financial Inheritance- Confronting Death Openly Helping Families Process Grief More Effectively- How Personal Resilience And Forgiveness Can Transform Traumatic Loss Into Meaningful ImpactConnect with Dr. Kimberly Harms here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-harms-bb524666


