Legally Speaking Podcast

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Christopher Bogart and David Perla.Chris is the CEO, Director and Co-Founder of Burford Capital. Under his leadership, Burford Capital has become the leading global provider of legal finance with a group-wide portfolio of nearly 7.4 billion and a force in the global market.David is Vice Chair at Burford Capital and oversees marketing, public policy, industry affairs and public relations. An entrepreneur and legal industry leader, David was named a Top 50 Innovator of the Last 50 Years by The American Lawyer.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Chris and David discussing:- Leadership at the Forefront of Legal Finance - Diverse Career Journeys Providing Experience as Fuel- Dynamic, Strategic Roles on a Day-to-Day Basis- A Passion for Innovation and Industry Leadership- Key Skills Transferred to Client SuccessConnect with Chris here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-bogart-b3114411Connect with David here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidperla

We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.Get ready for:💥 Strategy💥 Scaling💥 Sunshine💥 SuccessIn this episode, we have an engaging conversation in a yoga studio with Nadine Stanton, the Chief Executive of Professional Training. Join us as we delve into the skills needed to attain success and advancement in your career.You can hear Rob and Nadine talking about:- Essential Skills, Not Soft Skills- Three Core Client-Centric Skills – Win, Wow, Retain- Managing Difficult Conversations with Empathy- Value of Strategic Retreats- Differentiation Through EQ, Not Just IQ

We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.This collaboration is part of our bigger mission: Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.Get ready for:💥 Strategy💥 Scaling💥 Sunshine💥 SuccessIn today’s episode, we go on a special outing with our very first mic and hike with Justine Westwell, the Managing Director of HiveRisk Limited. Join us on our exciting trek to find out more about the inner workings of HiveRisk, while taking in beautiful sights from Ibiza.You can hear Rob and Justine talking about:- The Lawyers Retreat Bringing Innovation to Legal Leadership- Interactive, Practical Learning Over Traditional CPD- How Environment Sparks Creativity and Connection- Strategic Coaching as a Special Highlight in Legal- Building a Strong Community and Future Plans for the Lawyer’s RetreatConnect with Justine here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justine-westwellhttps://hiverisk.com/

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I am delighted to welcome back to the show Curt Sigfstead. Curt is the Chief Financial Officer at Clio. Curt has a wealth of experience in financial planning, accounting and investment banking. His expertise in financial leadership and understanding of SaaS and fintech is a valuable asset to Clio.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Curt discussing:- Clio's Customer-Centric and Strategic Growth Approach- Curt's Deep Financial Background and Transition to Operator Role- Evolving Role of a CFO at a High-Growth SaaS Company- Clio’s Strategic Vision and Scalable Global Expansion- Significance and Impact of Clio’s Series F FundingConnect with Curt here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtsigfsteadOur Sponsor, Clio - https://www.clio.com/uk/

We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.Get ready for:💥 Strategy💥 Scaling💥 Sunshine💥 SuccessIn today’s episode, we talk to Tom Blandford, Chief Financial Officer for law firms on a fractional basis with over two decades of experience in the field. He is also the Founder and Owner of Sursum Advisory Ltd.You can hear Rob and Tom talking about:- Law Firms Need Actionable Metrics, Not Just Financial Statements- A Powerful Example from Southwest Airlines: Find Your Key Number- Gross Profit Percentage Is a Strong Starting Point- Understanding and Tracking Lockup and WIP- The Best Finance Directors Are Great StorytellersConnect with Tom here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-blandford-lawfirmcfo/

We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.Get ready for:💥 Strategy💥 Scaling💥 Sunshine💥 SuccessIn today’s episode, we talk to Jodie Hill, Managing Partner of Thrive Law, a firm that strongly emphasises the key importance of equality, diversity and inclusion in the legal industry. At Thrive Law, Jodie’s team offer’s the best support on tackling employment law, mental health and wellbeing challenges.You can hear Rob and Jodie talking about:- How Burnout in Law Requires Systematic Change- Small Firms Taking Charge in Legal Culture- Inclusive Onboarding: “License to Thrive”- Starting by Listening, Not Aiming for Perfection- Intentional Culture Building Through Hybrid TeamsConnect with Jodie here:https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jodie-hill-lawyerhttps://www.thrivelaw.co.uk/

Is it time to rethink the ways law firms operate?This week, I’m joined by Mel Kang, the Founder & CEO of Mezzle. This amazing company is one of the fastest growing fee-sharing law firms in the UK. Mel shares why the fee-share model is transforming legal careers, the rise of remote-first law firms and how AI is shaping the future of legal work.If you’re a lawyer thinking of breaking free from tradition, this episode is a must-listen, go give it a listen now!So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Mel discussing:- AI in Legal Practice Enhances, Not Replaces, Human Lawyers- The Fee-Share Model Offers Flexibility and Empowerment- Building Mezzle with Core Cultural Values (PRCB)- Remote-First and Tech-Enabled Firms Are Thriving- How Vulnerability and Setbacks Can Lead to Entrepreneurial SuccessConnect with Mel here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mel-kang

We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.Get ready for:💥 Strategy💥 Scaling💥 Sunshine💥 SuccessIn our second episode, we talk to Whitney Williams, the Founder of PR By Whitney. She shares her insights for PR done right and how it affects your everyday practice. Stay tuned for Whitney’s specialist tips and advice!You can hear Rob and Whitney talking about:- The Importance of PR for Modern Law Firms- Authenticity and Vulnerability in Legal PR- Strategic Values of the Lawyer’s Retreat- Expanding Your Practice Beyond LinkedIn- The Role of Community and CollaborationConnect with Whitney here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/whitneywilliamsprhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/prbywhitney/https://prbywhitney.co.uk/

We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.Get ready for:💥 Strategy💥 Scaling💥 Sunshine💥 SuccessIn our very first episode, we share our time with very special guest panel in a poolside conversation at the Lawyer’s Retreat. These guest panelists are Maya Raichoora, Imran Ali, Rakeebah Rahim, Sarah Birdsey and Peter Meadows.You can hear Rob and the panel talking about:- Mental Fitness as a Leadership Skill- Performing Under Pressure- Scaling Without Losing Culture- Client Experience with Empathy- Strategic Clarity & Longevity in Law

Welcome to today’s Legally Speaking Podcast LinkedIn Live, sponsored by Clio. Today I’m joined by someone who truly needs no introduction in the world of business development and client experience — Matt Dixon.Matt’s work has changed how organizations think about selling and serving. His previous books, like The Challenger Sale and The Effortless Experience, have sold millions worldwide. Now, Matt’s back with a new blueprint for professional services success: The Activator Advantage — based on groundbreaking research into what today’s top rainmakers do differently. If you’re serious about winning, retaining, and growing client relationships in today’s ultra competitive environment — you’re in the right place.