

Legally Speaking Podcast
Legally Speaking Podcast™
Inspiring Legal Minds. Transforming Legal Futures.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
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Oct 14, 2025 • 44min
Legally on the Move: Festival of Entrepreneurs - Piers Linney - E01
Welcome to the Legally On the Move Festival of Entrepreneurs miniseries, recording live here from the Birmingham NEC. We're going to be diving into some of the sharpest minds across the UK, some of the top CEO, some of the top cutting edge businesses for an exciting, fast-paced series. So stay tuned, get excited and looking forward to delivering even more from the show.In this first episode of our brand-new miniseries, we get to speak to Piers Linney and a panel of mystery guests. Each episode will feature a panel involving several of guest speakers from the event. Piers is a former investor on BBC’s Dragons’ Den, a qualified lawyer, and a serial entrepreneur. He is the Co-founder and Executive Chairman of Implement AI, a company that helps businesses adopt and integrate AI to enhance operations, revenue, and customer experiences. Piers is a vocal advocate for AI implementation over hype, urging businesses to take action now during the early "dial-up" phase of AI. He believes AI will soon automate both cognitive and physical labour, radically transforming work and the economy. He’s also passionate about helping founders and legal professionals future-proof their careers and organizations through practical, ROI-driven AI adoption.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Piers and the panel discussing:- Implementing AI, Rather Than Just Talking About It- The Fact That We're in the “Dial-Up” Stage of AI (Day One)- Upcoming Career Shifts — Especially for Lawyers & Professionals- The Future of Work Being Redefined- How AI-First Founders Will Outpace the RestConnect with Piers Linney here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/pierslinney

Oct 13, 2025 • 48min
Breaking the Mould: Why One Leader Gave His Legal Team a 4-Day Work Week - Marcin Durlak - S9E32
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Marcin Durlak. Marcin is the Managing Partner and Co-Founder of IMD Solicitors LLP, an award-winning boutique firm recognised for its culture-first leadership and bold innovations. He and his wife and business partner,were jointly named Managing Partners of the Year at the 2025 ModernLaw Awards, after pioneering a 4-day working week with 100% pay whilst achieving record growth and world-class satisfaction. Passionate about culture-first leadership, Marcin is redefining what success looks like in the legal industry. From arriving in the UK with 1 suitcase to running an award-winning firm, his story is proof that bold ideas can transform both business and lives.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Marcin discussing:- Pioneering a Four-Day Work Week in Legal Practice- Building IMD Solicitors: From Language Skills to Award-Winning Firm- Overcoming Challenges and Embracing Continuous Improvement- Leveraging Technology and Innovation for Growth- Cultivating Culture, Team, and Balanced Firm ExpansionConnect with Marcin Durlak here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcin-durlak

Oct 9, 2025 • 6min
Legally on the Move: Mercedes World - Natalie O'Keeffe - E02
Welcome to a special, brand new mini series of the Legally Speaking Podcast, legally on the move Mercedes world, powered by Clio, the engine driving the future of legal tech and innovation.On our second minisode, we speak with Natalie O’Keeffe. She is the Director of Sales, EMEA at Clio, where she plays a pivotal role in organising and delivering impactful events for the legal community. At Mercedes Benz World, Natalie emphasised Clio’s commitment to helping mid-sized law firms innovate and adapt to change. She highlighted the importance of creating environments that inspire new ways of fostering connections among legal professionals. Natalie is passionate about integrating Clio’s product suite into law firms’ daily operations to help them work smarter and she values the opportunity to bring firms together to share ideas and best practices.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Natalie discussing:- Drive to Thrive: Empowering Mid-Sized Law Firms at Mercedes Benz World- Clio’s Vision: Innovating Legal Tech and Supporting Law Firm Growth- Natalie’s Insights and Goals for Inspiring Leadership- Upcoming Highlights: Legal Geek and Clio Con Events- Building Connections: Fostering Collaboration and Best Practices Among Law FirmsConnect with Natalie O’Keeffe here - https://ie.linkedin.com/in/natalieokeeffe

Oct 6, 2025 • 40min
Behind the Headlines: Child Protection, Legal Leadership & Making a Difference - Amy Clowrey - S9E31
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Amy Clowrey. Amy is a Solictor and the Director of the Child Compensation Team at Switalskis. She is the firm’s Training Principal, responsible for Qualifying Solicitrors, Solicitor Apprentices and Graduate Solitcitor Apprentices. Amy was awarded Lawyer of the Year at the Modern Law Awards 2023 and Rising Star Legal 500 Northern Powerhouse Awards 2024. She is passionate about encouraging and supporting the next generation of lawyers into the legal profession.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Amy discussing:- Amy Clowrey’s Personal And Professional Journey- Implementing Advocacy and Legal Reform- Mental Health in Law and its Importance- Supporting Future Lawyers- Media and Public AdvocacyConnect with Amy Clowrey here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-clowrey/

Oct 2, 2025 • 10min
Legally on the Move: Mercedes World - Penny Mallory - E01
Welcome to a special, brand new mini series of the Legally Speaking Podcast, Legally on the Move: Mercedes world, powered by Clio, the engine driving the future of legal tech and innovation.On our first minisode, we get the chance to talk to Penny Mallory. She is a leading authority on mental toughness, freelance keynote speaker and inspirational figure. Penny has a background in motorsports, having been a rally driver for 12 years and competing at a high level in the World Rally Championship. After her driving career, she became a TV presenter and now focuses on sharing her experiences and insights on mental toughness. She emphasises the importance of embracing change, building resilience, and encouraging innovation within numerous organisations.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Penny discussing:- Penny Mallory’s Motorsport And Speaking Career - The Importance Of Mental Toughness - Embracing Change And Driving Innovation - Building Teams That Embrace New Ideas - Practical Strategies For Developing ResilienceConnect with Penny Mallory here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/pennymallory

Sep 30, 2025 • 29min
LinkedIn Live - Burnout in law: Truths we're afraid to face - and how to change them
🚨 Lawyers aren’t burning out because they’re weak. They’re burning out because the system rewards depletion. Today on the Legally Speaking Podcast ™️ LinkedIn Live, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Sally Clarke, burnout and wellbeing expert, bestselling author, and ex-corporate finance lawyer who’s now helping others avoid the pain she lived through.Here’s what we covered:⚠️ The 3 biggest myths about burnout in the legal world🧠 The “3-Selfs Framework” every lawyer needs to know📊 Insights from the 2025 State of Workplace Burnout report💡 Why leaders must shift from performative wellbeing to true prevention💬 And why “I’m fine” is often the most dangerous phrase in the profession Sally brought the clarity, compassion, and courage this conversation needed.📚 Go grab Protect Your Spark and Relight Your Spark and check out We Are Human Leaders for more.

Sep 29, 2025 • 45min
Crypto, Courts & Career Growth: The Next Generation in Law - Charlotte Hill - S9E30
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Charlotte Hill. Charlotte is a partner at Penningtons Manches Cooper specialising in commercial dispute resolution, financial services regulation, restructuring and insolvency, described as a next generation partner by the Legal 500, Charlotte is passionate about her work in the sector, and has been awarded Women of the Year, FinTech and crypto innovation UK, at the city wealth power, women awards.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Charlotte discussing:- Charlotte Hill’s Career Journey and Path to Partnership- Building Inclusive Law Firm Culture and Supporting the Next Generation- Navigating Crypto, Digital Assets, and Emerging Tech in Legal Practice- Managing Legal Risk and the Role of AI in Litigation- Regulation, Community, and Advice for Aspiring Solicitors in Commercial DisputesConnect with Charlotte Hill here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/charlottehill-litigation

Sep 26, 2025 • 36min
Special Minisode: Mitch Jackson's 7-Step Roadmap to Law Firm Revolution with Centaur Lawyers & AI
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, Mitch Jackson, the award-winning trial lawyer and legal tech advocate, discusses the challenges and opportunities of AI in law firms. He highlights a MIT report indicating 95% of AI projects in large companies fail due to lack of adoption. Mitch outlines seven steps for successful AI implementation: understanding the need, starting small, creating an AI sandbox, scaling impact, ensuring privacy and security, empowering teams, and leveraging AI for efficiency. He emphasises the importance of a new leadership mindset, the "centaur" approach blending human expertise with AI, and the need for law firms to stay ahead in AI adoption to enhance client service and firm efficiency.Tune in to hear Rob and Mitch discuss:- How AI Is a Must for Law Firms Now- Discovering the Power of AI Tools- Keeping Up with Rapid AI Growth- Combining AI with Human Skills- Why You Should Small and Set Smart AI PoliciesConnect With Mitch on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchjackson/Follow his 7-Step Roadmap - https://legallyspeakingpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Seven-Steps-to-Leading-with-AI.pdfMitch’s Latest Book: Leading with AI- Seven Steps to Transform Your Business and Empower Your People - https://mitchjackson.xyz/12/leading-with-ai-seven-steps-to-transform-your-business-and-empower-your-people

Sep 22, 2025 • 41min
Lessons in Leadership, Resilience and Authenticity in Law with Mediator Damien Van Brunschot - S9E28
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Damien Van Brunschot. Damien is the owner and Principal Consultant of EvolveResolve. Leveraging his own expertise in mediation and leadership coaching, he co-founded, led and scaled boutique firm MVM Legal, later Kaden Boriss. Damien is the former Managing Partner of DWF (Australia). From 2020 to 2024, he’s been named by the Doyles guide as one of the best lawyers in Australia, specialising in workers’ compensation and respiratory diseases. Damien is passionate about the legal space and professional services, passing on his expertise to those in the trenches. He also recently launched his own podcast, The Resolution Room.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Damien discussing:- Leadership and Authenticity: Building Trust and Culture- Lessons From Scaling Law Firms: Persistence, Mindset and Strategy- Overcoming Challenges: Wellness, Mindfulness and Resilience- The Value of Coaching and Mentorship For Legal Leaders- Giving Back and Community Involvement: The Importance of GratitudeConnect with Damien Van Brunschot here - https://au.linkedin.com/in/damien-van-brunschot

Sep 19, 2025 • 14min
Special Minisode: The Legally Speaking Podcast Live Lounge - Powered by Lost Rhythms
In this special minisode of the Legally Speaking Podcast, we are joined by DJs Frankie Gioia and Adam Guy (aka Guyza) from Lost Rhythms. They discuss their journey in the music industry, the challenges of balancing demanding careers with their passion for DJing, and their exciting future plans, including upcoming gigs and music releases. This minisode is also a teaser for more exciting things to come for the Live Lounge, which is now a weekly event at the Legally Speaking Podcast.Key Points From the DiscussionHow this collaboration was formed in Ibiza on the Lawyers RetreatLost Rhythms bringing back older tunesHow to balance work and passionDJing: a passion for over 30 yearsHow energy breeds energy in the music sceneFind out more on the official LSP website


