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Dr. Patrick Vickers – Sugar Doesn’t Feed Cancer Cells & Why Doing Coffee Enemas Are Critical Living In Today’s Toxic World
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Today we had an amazing discussion with Dr. Patrick Vickers.
Dr. Vickers joined us today from the Gerson Treatment in Northern Baja and it was truly a please speaking with this man.
He dispels a lot of health myths and platitudes surrounding the health food world.
We talked about salt and why salt can be dangerous especially if you’re dealing with terminal or even advanced cancers. Many people think sodium is good for you but Patrick’s take is that it’s extremely detrimental. We obviously talked about salts that you’d buy in the health food store not necessarily things like celery and items like that. He did give some useful tips about how to work with celery.
We also talked quite extensively about how cancer cells do not feed on sugar. Whenever we make statements using general words it’s CRITICAL to distinguish what we mean. By sugar he’s talking about fruit sugar not processed sugar or white sugar that’s been cooked and heavily bastardized. Fruit sugar and sugar from cooked starchy vegetables act very different in the human body than high fructose corn syrup injected with genetically modified organisms.
The way sugar feeds cancer has more to do with tissue oxygenation and the ph balance of the blood and certain organs vs the sugar itself. It gets extremely scientific especially the way Dr. Patrick Vickers breaks it down so it’s definitely worth listening to.
We also discussed how critical it is in today’s toxic world to do regular coffee enemas. Dr. Vickers does them twice per day. They are absolutely imperative if you want to detoxify the liver from heavy metals, fluke worms, parasites and other chemicals and poisons that get stored in our livers. Coffee enemas help to create bile as well as the main detoxification hormone called glutithione which are necessary for moving toxins out of the body.
Along with regular vegetable juicing the coffee enemas are a part of the foundation of the Gerson Treatment.
This show was truly fascinating and it was an honor to have Dr. Patrick Vickers on. If you found this interview with him interesting please pass this on to your friends using the buttons at the top of this post.
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Show Date:
Wednesday 11/27/2013
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Show Guest:
Dr. Patrick Vickers
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Guest Info:
Dr. Patrick was born and raised outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. At the age of 11 years old, after witnessing a miraculous recovery from a chiropractic adjustment, Dr. Patrick’s passion for natural medicine was born.
Giving up careers in professional Read More…
golf and entertainment, Dr. Patrick obtained his undergraduate degrees from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and Life University before going on to receive his doctorate in Chiropractic from New York Chiropractic College in 1997.
While a student at New York Chiropractic College(NYCC), Dr. Patrick befriended Charlotte Gerson, the last living daughter of Dr. Max Gerson, M.D. who Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Dr. Albert Schweitzer called, ” One of the most eminent geniuses in medical history. “
Dr. Gerson, murdered in 1959, remains the most censured doctor in the history of medicine as he was reversing virtually every degenerative disease known to man, including TERMINAL cancer.
Upon graduating from NYCC in 1997, Dr. Patrick went on to study the Gerson Therapy directly under Charlotte Gerson at her home in San Diego, California. While living with Charlotte, Dr. Patrick spent several months going through Dr. Gerson’s handwritten files of all his active patients from 1910-1959; files that Charlotte has kept in her home to this day. Included in those files were hundreds of handwritten letters from Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Dr. Albert Schweitzer, to Dr. Max Gerson. Schweitzer and Gerson were best friends after Gerson cured Schweitzer’s wife, Helena, of terminal tuberculosis when she had just 3 months to live.
Gerson also cured Schweitzer, himself, of severely advanced diabetes, in SIX weeks, eight years before Schweitzer won the Nobel Prize.
After several months of studying Dr. Gerson’s files, and several more months interning at the Gerson Clinic, Dr. Patrick opened chiropractic and Gerson clinics in Peru, Guatemala and Mexico before returning to the United States, in 2008, to open up this non-profit organization dedicated to educating the public on the Gerson Therapy.
Since that time, Dr. Patrick has been travelling around the world lecturing at international embassies, Latin American medical schools and other miscellaneous venues.
He is also responsible for having cured one of the most famous and controversial Heads of State in human history.
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Dr. Patrick and Lupita from The Beautiful Truth
You can see Dr. Patrick’s terminal cancer patient, Lupita, in the critically-acclaimed, 2008 documentary, “The Beautiful Truth.” Recently, Dr. Patrick has expounded on Dr. Gerson’s work by creating the Advanced Gerson Therapy. The Advanced Gerson Therapy has proven to be more superior in the results it obtains than the original Gerson Therapy of Dr. Gerson’s time.
Currently, Dr. Patrick resides in Tijuana, Mexico with his 12 year old son, Shelem. He continues to travel around the country lecturing on the incredible life and legacy of Dr. Max Gerson which, fifty years after Dr. Gerson’s death, remains one of the greatest stories and tragedies in human history.
If you, or someone you know or love, are suffering from any kind of degenerative condition, including terminal cancer, you may call or write us to set up a consultation with Dr. Patrick or to reserve a stay at our clinic in Tijuana, Mexico. We look forward to hearing from you.
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Ty: Hey, you’re listening to Ty Bollinger of CancerTruth.net and you’re also listening to Justin and Kate with Extreme Health Radio. These guys are great. Enjoy listening to them. I always do.
Justin: Well, thank you so much, everybody, for joining us on another episode of Extreme Health Radio. We had a couple sound issues just right there. Hopefully you didn’t hear too much of that, but we had sound only coming out of one side of the speakers there. Never a good thing.
Kate: No.
Justin: Thank you, everybody, for joining us. We are so excited to have Dr. Patrick Vickers on the show today. We’ll be talking about the Gerson Therapy. We’ve got some questions on coffee enemas. And it’s just going to be a great show, so we’re really, really excited to have him on. We’ll introduce him in just a moment. It’s a beautiful day here in Southern California—a couple clouds—we’ll take it though, right, for this time of year?
Kate: Makes it feel a little Thanksgiving-ish, finally.
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Kate: November 27, 2013, and this is Episode 185.
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Patrick: Yeah, thank you for having me.
Justin: You’re so welcome. So you had said on your website you befriended Charlotte Gerson back when you were in college. Is that right?
Patrick: Yeah. I wanted to be a chiropractor ever since I was 11 years old and I had a year left in school at New York Chiropractic College and Charlotte came and spoke at our school for the weekend and the moment she opened her mouth, I knew that’s what I would spend the rest of my life doing.
Justin: Wow.
Kate: Wow.
Patrick: The last year of chiropractic school was very hard to get through because I couldn’t get my eyes out of the Gerson books. So once I graduated, I actually lived at the Gerson Clinic when they had one in Sedona. I lived there for five months, shadowing the two doctors at the time. And then in 1998, Charlotte asked me to come live at her home where she has all her father’s handwritten files stored in her garage and she asked me to come there and go through those files and try to find active patients that were still alive that Dr. Gerson himself treated.
Justin: Oh my gosh. So during the time that you were in college, I mean you were going for chiropractic medicine. Were you open-minded to alternative healing modalities at that time already and that’s why you kind of resonated with Charlotte?
Patrick: Well, I’ve always despised conventional medicine, ever since I was a young boy. When I was 11 years old, I saw an absolute miracle with one chiropractic adjustment and that’s what pretty much set my course, in terms of my belief systems of medicine and natural medicine. And so yeah, you could say that I was already privy towards natural medicine, though if you would have told me that the cure for cancer existed at that point, I probably would have told you you were crazy and certainly that if there was something available at that time that they’d be shouting it from the rooftops. So when Charlotte opened her mouth and started talking about her father, there was something instinctively in me that knew immediately that what she was saying was true. And like Ashley, let’s say, that turned my work upside down and like I said, I knew that’s what I would do the rest of my life. And so since I graduated, that’s essentially what I dedicated my life to.
Justin: Wow. That’s amazing. So are there any Gerson Treatment Centers in the United States? Because you mentioned on, I think you said, in Arizona?
Patrick: Well, there was one. The Institute had one in Arizona back in 1998 but that has since shut down. Now with that said, a good friend of mine named Ryan Korchoff [sp], he has a clinic in Sedona, Arizona, but his hands are tied as to what he can legally do. So I wouldn’t call it an official Gerson Clinic per se, but he’s carrying out many of the Gerson principles there and one thing he certainly isn’t able to do are the advanced protocols that we’ve added to the Gerson Therapy, which are increasing our clinical outcome exponentially.
Justin: Wow. So his hands are tied to some degree, not only with what he can do, but what he can say as well, right?
Patrick: Yeah, absolutely. So it’s disguised as a wellness center, but he is applying the principles of the Gerson Therapy, but really not in their entirety and like I said, not the advanced protocols, which are becoming more and more vital as the environment becomes more and more toxic.
Justin: Just really briefly, what are a couple of the advanced protocols that he wouldn’t be able to do? Can you say?
Patrick: Yeah, absolutely. First of all, if you read in Dr. Gerson’s book on Page 128, he mentions William Colley and he was specifically talking about the Colley Therapy. He wanted to do the Colley Therapy when he was alive but he never got the chance because he died. Well, the Colley Therapy… Dr. William Colley was a Harvard Medical Doctor and he recognized that when his patients came down with staph or strep infections, their cancers would go away or get significantly better, but then when the infection was over, they would come back. So what he did was he began to culture the bacterial toxins that staph and strep bacteria make and he began to inject those regularly into his patients and he would get the same response. The tumors would eventually go away and he was able to receive a permanent cure from time to time, but not remotely as close as what we can get on the Gerson Therapy.
So Gerson theorized that if you could do the Colley Therapy while on the Gerson Therapy—because that’s what Colley overlooked. He overlooked boosting up the immune system under the principles of something like the Gerson Therapy. So essentially, all Colley was doing was artificially stimulating the immune response, which if you don’t replenish it with the proper nutrients and juices and enemas, you’re actually going to deplete the immune system over time and that’s why he wasn’t able to achieve permanent cures like we can with the Gerson Therapy and Colley’s together. So Gerson theorized that if he could do Colley’s while on the Gerson Therapy, he could send his results through the roof and he was right. And unfortunately, he never got that opportunity because by the time he discovered it, it was too late and he never had the opportunity to try it.
So we’re doing that. We’re also doing Laetrile, Vitamin B-17, but we’re only doing it intravenously because contrary to what you may hear, you can apricot kernel seeds until the cows come home; you’re not going to get enough Laetrile out of those apricot seeds to make a difference. And not only that, an advanced terminal patient, if they’re eating apricot kernel seeds all day, that’s an incredible stress on their immune system and their digestive tract, so really the only therapeutic form of Laetrile that’s viable for a cancer patient and successful is intravenous. And so we’re doing that intravenously, which if I’m not mistaken it’s illegal in the United States still. So that’s the other thing we’re doing.
One other therapy is dendritic cell therapy. Dendritic cells are like generals in your body. They go around the body seeking out threats to the system and they do that because they’re able to detect and pick up antigens that are produced by cancer cells, viruses, bacteria and they take those antigens and they present it to the immune system and then it’s the immune system that rallies the defense. So those are our three major therapies that we’re doing here at the Gerson Clinic and we’re also going to begin doing something called PNC27. PNC27 is a new protein that’s been discovered. You can Google it. It’s a new therapy that’s been discovered that’s now starting to show incredible promise, specifically in pancreatic cancer, but not limited to that. And what it’s doing is it’s breaking down the cell membranes of cancer cells, literally eating them away and the immune system can then recognize the cancer cell and immediately destroy it. So we’re going to begin utilizing that as well. So Colley’s, Laetrile and PNC27 right now, those are the advanced protocols that are really powerful with the Gerson Therapy.
Kate: Dr. Vickers, Stella from New York just was in our chat room and she said, “What about intravenous Vitamin C?”
Patrick: Yeah, we also apply intravenous Vitamin C and chelation at our clinic as well.
Kate: Okay.
Patrick: So yeah, those are both therapies that you get as part of the package when you come down here.
Justin: You know what, Dr. Vickers, is really amazing about Max Gerson is that he was always willing to seemingly change up his protocols and really be like a scientist in terms of he’s always looking to enhance his existing protocols and things and that’s what’s so cool about what you guys are doing is that somehow he’s passed on that ideology that you’re not stuck to one particular thing. You’re always adding on these adjuncts that kind of sit on the outside and add to the foundational protocols that you guys use.
Patrick: Well, that’s exactly right. Gerson was the consummate scientist and he was constantly searching the literature, looking for things that could help and propel his therapy to a greater level. Up until 1952, Gerson’s entire juicing protocol was just citrus—was just grapefruit, oranges and lemons—and then in 1952 things started to come out in the literature about beta-carotene and all these vegetables and stuff and he completely revamped his juicing protocol. And so today if Gerson was alive, I think the foundations of the diet would still look very similar, but I guarantee you he would have been using these immunotherapies that we’re now utilizing at our clinic. And not to talk ill willed about Charlotte Gerson, but to this day, Charlotte has refused to change her father’s therapy in the very exact way that he wanted to, specifically Colley’s. She’s kept the therapy as-is, from the day her father died, and that’s one of the biggest reasons why we had to leave the Institute, because our hands would have been tied by the Institute had we signed up to be officially recognized by them. We would not be able to do the things we’re doing if we continued to be allied with the Gerson Institute.
Justin: Interesting. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that because you’re with the Northern Baja Center and that is different than the… Is that different than the main Gerson…?
Patrick: Oh yes, absolutely. We’re two totally different entities. We’re not affiliated with the Gerson Institute for these very reasons.
Justin: I see.
Patrick: And other reasons as well that I don’t need to go into, but no. We are separate from the Institute and my doctors have been practicing the Gerson Therapy for 15-20 years and they’ve been doing the advanced protocols since their inception.
Justin: Interesting. Now going back really quickly, I just have one little quick question about what you said about Vitamin B-17 in people that actually have cancer. A lot of people take those little tablets or they’ll just eat the kernels as a preventative when they’re not sick. Is that something that’s beneficial, do you think?
Patrick: I don’t know. The amount of B-17 that the body’s got to try to extract from a raw seed like that, I just don’t think it can be of much benefit. Now maybe the tablets or the capsules could be of some benefit, but keep in mind when we do Laetrile, our patients are getting nine grams of pure B-17 in each IV. So I think the capsules, if I’m not mistaken, come in 500-milligram tablets, so you would probably have to take 50 capsules to get the same bioavailable amount of B-17 that we inject intravenously. It’s just not cost-effective, I don’t believe. But now again, maybe the capsules for preventative measures could be of some benefit, but for a cancer patient, it’s not going to be of great benefit.
Justin: That makes a lot of sense because also with what you guys are doing, it’s coming in liquid form and it’s right into the bloodstream, so it’s really highly bioavailable, right?
Patrick: It’s pure B-17, straight into the bloodstream.
Justin: How do they get…? That’s just so crazy. How do they get B-17…? Where do they get it from in such high amounts like that?
Patrick: Well, probably the same way you extract flax oil out of flaxseeds, probably some kind of a cold press mechanism or a crushing mechanism that’s able to just squeeze the oil or the pure B-17 out of the product. I mean that’s the only thing I can imagine.
Justin: I know you get this question a lot and we only have a couple minutes before the break here that we have to take, but one of the objections a lot of people say is the amount of sugar. And I know I’ve heard you talk about this a lot, but just for those people who have been listening and they’ve heard about the Gerson Treatment and they’re concerned about the sugar, can you just talk for a couple minutes on that subject?
Patrick: Well, it would take more than a couple minutes, but we can start. Anyway, yeah, why is it that we’re the only ones in medical history to have a peer-reviewed study proving the ability to reverse advanced terminal cancer? Nobody’s reversing advanced terminal cancer with the rates that the Gerson Therapy is. But how can that be when the patients are getting 6,000 calories a day of fruit and vegetable sugars? The whole premise that sugar feeds cancer is a false premise and nothing could be further from the truth when and only when the cellular environment inside the cell is set up properly to break down sugar into ATP, ATP being the energy molecule that the body produces. You need ATP to eat, sleep, drink, walk, talk. You need it to maintain a healthy immune system. And you most certainly need it to cure a sick and dying one.
When you see somebody who is sick and/or dying, what’s one of the first things you notice? They’re lethargic. Why are they lethargic? Because they’ve lost the capacity to produce energy on a cellular level and the only way you can—well, not the only way—but the primary way the body creates energy is through the breakdown of sugars. And it’s when the environment inside the cell is optimal for the breakdown of sugars that sugars actually help fight disease rather than cause it. And the whole principle—the whole secret to that—is proper oxygen utilization by the body, and we can go into that more after the break, I suppose. But it has nothing to do with the consumptions of sugar. It has everything to do with the proper cellular environment to break it down and create energy and that all happens in the mitochondria and the two things that are required to produce energy on a cellular level or sugars, oxygen and a myriad of nutrients that the mitochondria need to run its energy cycles.
Justin: I love it because what you’re saying is so true and a lot of times, especially as you know in the alternative health fields, you get a lot of platitudes and you get a lot of general statements. So it’s nice to get some concrete information that’s based on cellular biology about this kind of subject. So this is really good. We’re with Dr. Patrick Vickers and don’t forget to check out his website. It’s GersonTreatment.com and you can find all kinds of great information there and set up a consultation and learn more about the Gerson Treatment Center that he’s working with in northern Baja, Mexico. We’ll be right back after this break.
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Justin: And Daniel Vitalis, one of our favorite guests, what do you have to say about the sauna?
Daniel: When you go into the sauna, like a far-infrared sauna like you discuss, your body goes into a deep relaxation mode and your sympathetic nervous system shuts down and your parasympathetic nervous system turns on. And when that’s active, that’s the nervous system—part of your nervous system—that’s active when you meditate. That becomes active and your detoxification pathways open up wide. Why is this important? It’s important because when you go running and you sweat, you’re not necessarily eliminating very much toxicity from your body. But when you sweat in the sauna, you eliminate a lot of toxicity from your body. So sweating in a relaxed state is how we eliminate. The other thing is that what’s wonderful about the sauna is that it puts you in a parasympathetic nervous system response as if you were meditating. So it’s almost a hack. It’s like a trick to get yourself into a meditative, relaxed state, to decompress stress, to reverse the effects of stress, and to get your body eliminating deep, deep toxicity that’s stored in your body fat because it can come out in the oils of your skin. So I think sauna is one of the most crucial detoxification… really health practices that we can take on, especially in this era of heavy toxicity, particularly fat-soluble toxins.
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Justin: Well, I just got done jumping on the rebounder, kind of wake up a little bit, right?
Kate: Just a little. Got to catch your breath.
Justin: We’re having a great talk here with Dr. Patrick Vickers and this is really, really an informative talk and hopefully you guys are getting a lot of good information. I love the fact that he has such an open mind and is such a great guy in terms of incorporating all these different modalities into his treatment and his foundational protocols. We could go on for hours just on the sugar thing, and perhaps we can get back to that a little bit too. I want to ask a couple questions because we’ve had a lot of people asking about the coffee enemas and things like that. So the coffee enemas, Dr. Vickers, are part of the foundation—that and the juicing—of your entire protocol, isn’t it?
Patrick: Coffee enemas… We would not be able to cure cancer without the coffee enemas. In fact, Gerson’s success rates were not that good. In fact, he lost his first several patients when he started treating cancer or started treating advanced disease because he was detoxifying them so heavily with the juicing and the supplement protocol that they were going into chemotoxic shock. So the coffee enema is an absolute vital portion of the Gerson Therapy. Without it we would not have the success that we have.
Justin: And how are they different from colonics? They’re very different from colonics, but tell people how they are different.
Patrick: Well, for starters, the coffee enema is only a quart, whereas a colonic, four to five gallons of water is being circulated through you. And typically, they might add some herbal things to it or might add vitamin C or garlic, but the colonic… essentially that’s just to clean out your colon. That’s what the principle of the colonic is. The coffee enema is a completely different therapy. The coffee enema is specifically to detoxify the liver and a colonic simply can’t do that. A colonic just cleans the colon. A coffee enema detoxifies the liver and there’s absolutely nothing in the literature that can compare to the detoxification power of a coffee enema.
Justin: That’s so fascinating. And you have been doing them every day for quite a few years, haven’t you?
Patrick: Yeah, I’ve been doing one or two every day for the last… well, essentially 15 years, since I started the Therapy. Charlotte Gerson herself, she does one or two a day for the last 65 years. So you hear that these things are addictive, that if you do them for too long they become harmful. Well, I think we’re living proof at this point that that simply isn’t the case, especially when it’s done—and it has to be done—in conjunction with this regime. If you do coffee enemas without doing it inside of this regime, potentially you could cause some harm to the body.
Justin: I see. I see. Because you need the juicing to go along with it and along with everything else that you guys do. And a lot of people say that you lose electrolytes if you do them every day. That’s not… Is that true?
Patrick: Well, that would be the danger if you weren’t doing it in this regime.
Justin: I see. Okay.
Patrick: Yeah. See, the secret to the coffee enema is this. Your liver produces an enzyme called glutathione S-transferase. It’s the most potent detoxifying enzyme in the body. It literally goes through the body soaking up free radicals, toxins and eliminating them through the kidneys and the intestines. Well, the liver produces that enzyme and it uses palmitic acid as the chemical base of creating that enzyme. Well, properly roasted, organic coffee is loaded with palmitic acid and study after study on coffee enemas has shown—and yes, they have been studied extensively—that the production of glutathione transferase by the body goes up 700% greater than normal with just one enema. So you multiply that by five, which is what the Gerson patients get on a daily basis—they get five enemas per day—you have very, very powerful detoxification of the body. Now the problem with doing the coffee enemas outside this regime is when you stimulate that pathway—that glutathione S-transferase pathway—that pathway requires all your B vitamins, magnesium, potassium, iron, zinc, vitamin C. All those nutrients are required to run that pathway. So if you’re sick, which means your body’s already severely depleted, and you start doing the coffee enemas, you’re going to get a response. But over time, you’re depleting your body more if you’re not replenishing those nutrients with the juices and the foods, which come with the Gerson Therapy, which is 20 pounds per day.
Justin: Interesting. So as with the colonics, a lot of people say that you can lose good, beneficial gut bacteria with the colonics or become dehydrated from colonics. Does this happen with enemas?
Patrick: No, because a lot of the beneficial bacteria—or most of them—are in the ascending and one half of the transverse colon.
Justin: Okay.
Patrick: Essentially, the descending colon is nothing but eliminative. It really doesn’t have the bacterial content that the rest of the colon has. Not only that. When you do an enema, it really doesn’t go beyond the transverse flexure, beyond the sigmoid colon, the descending portion of the colon. It probably occupies the last half of the descending colon, whereas a colonic, that goes through the entire colon, all the way to the ileocecal valve. And there is a lot of beneficial bacteria, especially in the ascending colon. So people who say that you can throw off the probiotic organisms, the natural bacteria in your colon with coffee enemas, they really don’t understand what they’re talking about.
Justin: I see. I see.
Kate: We have a question in the chat room asking about the difference with raw coffee beans or roasted, and is there one, and are people supposed to be using raw coffee?
Patrick: Okay. That’s the proverbial question. I haven’t listened to Charlotte, but apparently she’s put something out on how she doesn’t like the green coffee beans. I know one of the Gerson Clinics, they use green coffee and apparently they’ve been using it successfully. I can’t say. I don’t know for sure. But Charlotte, from what I’ve heard, talks vehemently against green coffee. I can imagine she has good reason because there are products out there called “green coffee extract” and we know that green coffee extract prohibits the methylation pathway of the liver. It inhibits it. So like I said, I haven’t heard her speak about it, but I imagine that it has something to revolve around that. Now how much a green coffee enema would affect the methylation pathways, I don’t know. We’re talking about green coffee extract, a highly concentrated form of the green coffee bean.
Justin: I see.
Patrick: So I really couldn’t say whether or not they’re not beneficial. We’ve been using light to medium roast coffee for decades successfully. Here at my clinic, I have coffee roasted especially for my clinic and I roast it in between the green coffee and in between the light to medium roast that another company uses or makes for us in the United States for the Gerson Therapy. So the coffee we use here at the clinic is the middle of the road, so to speak, between the two coffees.
Justin: Is there a link, do you think, on your website GersonTreatment.com, for people if they are interested in getting the highest quality coffee for their enemas?
Patrick: I don’t have links up on our site for the coffee, but I can tell you right now here that the green coffee you get from SA Wilsons in Canada, SAWilsons.com and then the light to medium roasted coffee. A company specifically roasts it for us in Oregon and they use a basic bean, basic meaning not as acidic. So the bean that they use is a very high basic bean and they roast it specifically for us and that’s Royal Blue Organics in Oregon and their phone number is 1-888-CAFÉ-MAM.
Justin: Okay. Okay, this is good.
Kate: Wow, that’s great information.
Patrick: When you call them, you have to ask for the Gerson Therapy Roast and ask for it in the bean form. You want it in the bean form because you want to grind it as you use it, because once you grind it, you expose all the acids to the elements and the coffee is going to break down much faster.
Justin: Ah, okay.
Kate: Gotcha.
Justin: So you want it in bean form and it’s important to not use a coffee maker. Isn’t that correct?
Patrick: That is correct. You do not use a coffee maker to make coffee enemas. You have to boil the coffee and you have to strain it out with a cheesecloth. That’s how you release the palmitates. Using a coffee maker, the filter will prevent the palmitates from making it into the coffee.
Justin: Interesting. Now some people do water enemas. I know that for curing cancer, I mean coffee is huge because of the palmitic acid, like you talked about, and the caffeine and things.
Patrick: That’s right.
Justin: But people, like on a maintenance level, will do water enemas. Kate, you do water enemas as well as coffee.
Kate: Mm-hmm.
Justin: Are those beneficial, do you think, or as beneficial?
Patrick: No. Not even close. No. Again, the water enemas aren’t going to do anything other than clean the colon.
Justin: Okay.
Patrick: That’s really the only thing they’re going to do. So the only thing really that is going to detoxify the body as a diseased patient needs is the coffee enema. There simply is nothing that can promote that kind of detoxification. Nothing.
Justin: I love it. Okay, that’s good. And so what about positions? A lot of people lay on their right side when they do coffee enemas, for the liver, I guess.
Kate: That’s a good question.
Justin: Some people, I’ve heard, they… I like to lay on my right side. I’ve heard of people laying on their left side, even, and I’ve read in different books and things where people will kind of be on all fours with their butt up in the air. Is there any difference in terms of position?
Patrick: Well, yeah. Okay, I just had visions of all that, but anyway…
Justin: Sorry about that.
Patrick: Gerson officially stated that he wanted it done on the right side because that’s where the liver is. And so if there was any chance of there being better absorption through the colon or whatever into the liver, that’s how he wanted it. And also the hemorrhoidal veins. So people ask, “Well, how does the coffee get from the colon to the liver?” and the answer is simple. When the coffee goes into the rectum, what’s sitting right there? The hemorrhoidal veins. And the hemorrhoidal veins, they dump into something called the “portal system” and anything that dumps into the hemorrhoidal veins and into the portal system gets carried straight to the liver because the portal system ends right in the liver. So that’s how the coffee gets to the liver is through the hemorrhoidal veins. And for whatever reason, Gerson stated that it was on the right side that the best absorption was available, according to him.
Justin: Now how long is it…? I’ve heard you’ve talked about it before how the blood—the entire amount of the blood—gets filtered through the liver, I think, twice every 15 minutes or something? I may be wrong on that, but how long should people be holding in total? Because we do our enemas… What are they, about 24 ounces?
Kate: Mm-hmm.
Justin: And I usually do them in three different segments. How long should people try to hold the enemas?
Patrick: The official answer to that is once everything is drained into you, Gerson wanted it to be held for 12 to 15 minutes and then eliminated.
Justin: Okay, so it doesn’t matter if you do it in three different rounds, I guess?
Patrick: No, that sounds quite lengthy.
Justin: Yeah.
Kate: Oh, you mean like five minutes each, if you’re trying to hold all that liquid?
Justin: Well, yeah, because what I’ll do is I’ll do an enema and I’ll have 24 ounces of liquid and I’ll try to hold each round for 15 minutes.
Kate: Oh.
Justin: But maybe that’s too long.
Patrick: Yeah, you’d be better off just holding it for 15 and holding it all in there because Gerson wanted it all in there for 15 minutes to increase the maximum absorption of the palmitates that he could get.
Justin: I see. Okay. So how much liquid would someone be able to hold, do you think, for that long?
Patrick: Well, the coffee enema under our regime is a 32-ounce regime.
Justin: Oh my gosh. Wow.
Kate: Wow. Does that take a long time for people to build up to that?
Patrick: No. Not at all. Usually within a day or two of doing the enema protocols, there is no problem with that whatsoever.
Kate: Wow. That’s great.
Patrick: Then it takes three minutes to get it all in—not that long.
Kate: Is it important in your protocol how slow the liquid actually goes in?
Patrick: No.
Justin: And with the coffee enemas, is it okay to massage the stomach while you’re eliminating on the toilet or massage your stomach while you’re laying there? Is that something that’s beneficial, do you think?
Patrick: Well, I find that if my nutrient status is up that my colon eliminates it very easily, but if I’m depleted or I’m stressed and I’m having a problem eliminating it, sometimes I will massage my belly to get it moving better. So yeah, it could be beneficial for people who are finding problems eliminating the enema.
Justin: Okay. We’ve got a couple more questions on this and then we’ll take a break and end the show with some… Maybe we’ll go back to the sugar issues because that was really interesting. A couple other questions before we take a break on the coffee enema. Is there a beneficial time to do it? We’ve had other guests on our show that say the liver time is 1:00-3:30 am, but no one’s going to do it at that time. Are there different times during the day that it is more beneficial for a coffee enema?
Patrick: We recommend that if you’re going to do them for maintenance that you do it first thing in the morning when you wake up to help the liver eliminate any toxins that it’s held overnight from that time period that you mentioned. So as soon as I wake up, it’s the first thing I do every day.
Kate: So if you do two sometimes, like you said, a day, when are you doing your other one?
Patrick: Late afternoon because I’m doing a lot of juicing and when you juice, you actually create toxicity in the body. I don’t know if you’re aware of that.
Kate: Hm-mm.
Patrick: Juices have the capacity to literally draw toxins out of the cells, back into the bloodstream. Not only that, the enzymes in the juice and the nutrients in the juice are destroying disease tissue, rebuilding new tissue, destroying cancer cells, tumors. All of those are toxic processes. So if you’re doing any kind of juicing, you’ve got to do enemas to counterbalance that. So if I’m doing six, seven, eight juices a day, by the time 2:00 or 3:00 rolls around, I’m ready for an enema.
Kate: Can I ask you how many juices you do as maintenance a day?
Patrick: Well, because I live right next door to the clinic, you wouldn’t see the difference between me and one of my cancer patients. On a regular basis I might be doing five or six a day.
Kate: Wow.
Justin: That’s incredible.
Kate: That’s amazing.
Justin: And you guys use that fancy Norwalk juicer, don’t you?
Patrick: Well, up until last week we weren’t. We were using a Champion with a separate press. It gets the same results as the Norwalk. It’s just a little more physical. It’s a little more laborious. But we do now have a Norwalk that we’re utilizing for the juices.
Justin: And with coffee enemas, Kate… This might be a little bit gross for some people, but Kate, you’ve had worms come out, right?
Kate: Yeah, I’ve had all kinds of stuff.
Patrick: Oh yeah, for sure.
Kate: It’s pretty amazing. Is that pretty typical for an average person like me doing them as maintenance?
Patrick: Oh, absolutely. Listen, we’re all so toxic. I mean we’re breathing in things that we can’t even see. And so by the end of the day the environments that we’re living in, especially if we’re city dwellers, the amount of toxicity we’re generating is horrific. So yeah, I mean the things that come out of people when they start doing the coffee enemas goes beyond mention here.
Kate: So it is safe to say that you would recommend them for people as maintenance, as long as they know what they’re doing?
Patrick: It’s absolutely vital. People accuse me of being… “Well, aren’t you being a little extreme, doing one or two a day?” And I’m like, “Well, look, if I lived back in 1900 and I was doing one and two coffee enemas a day, that would be ridiculous.” But with this environment that we live in today, it’s absolutely imperative that you do at least one enema a day. No ifs. No ands. No buts.
Justin: I like that. Wow.
Kate: I love it.
Justin: Wow, fascinating. This is good stuff. We’re going to take a short break and we’ll be back with Dr. Patrick Vickers. Don’t forget to check out his website, GersonTreatment.com. This is just great stuff. Perhaps in the next segment we can get into some of the sugar issues. I know he’s got to be leaving right at 10:00 so we’re going to be making sure he gets out of here on time. But this is just a fascinating show with Dr. Patrick Vickers and we’ll be right back after this break.
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Justin: All right. Well, thank you, everybody, for joining us on this episode of Extreme Health Radio. We are at Episode 184…
Kate: 5.
Justin: Is it 185?
Kate: Yep.
Justin: Are you sure?
Kate: I’m sure.
Justin: Okay, 185. Cool. Okay, so if you have any questions about this show, you can go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/185 and if you have any questions about the sauna that we ran the ad for or the qigong course, please let me know and I can answer any questions that you might have about this particular items there. I think you’re really going to love those. Don’t forget to check out GersonTreatment.com for more on Patrick Vickers and his whole entire center there in northern Baja, Mexico. Before we get into the final bit of this show, Dr. Vickers, one last thing on the coffee enemas. Is there a book or some information online or something like that that you could reference to teach people how to do the coffee enemas?
Patrick: Actually, no I don’t. I simply don’t have anything available to explain the coffee enemas and how to apply them.
Justin: Okay, no problem. People can do searches online and figure that out.
Patrick: Yeah, they’re all over the place, I’m sure. But I mean I’ve seen some of them that are out there and they’re certainly not the same regimen as we apply them, so everybody’s got an opinion.
Kate: That’s for sure.
Justin: So going back a little bit to the cellular science of the sugar that people will talk about. They’ll say, like you said earlier in the show, how cancer feeds on sugar and things like that. It really does have a lot to do with the oxygen utilization of the cell, doesn’t it? Isn’t that what you were saying?
Patrick: That is the entire principle of proper utilization of sugar. How does the body create energy on a cellular level? There is something called the “Krebs cycle.” The Krebs cycle is what takes place inside the cell in the mitochondria. So sugar is supposed to enter the cells and go through the Krebs cycle. But it will only do that—to its final production of energy on a cellular level—it will only do that if oxygen is present and available. If you can’t get oxygen into that cell, into that mitochondria, you’re not going to produce energy on a cellular level. So under what principles would it be true that sugar feeds cancer? Well, you hear it floated around all the time that acidity causes disease, right? You’ve heard that constantly.
Justin: Right. Right.
Patrick: That disease can’t survive in a highly oxygenated environment. Well, great. But what does that mean? What does that mean on a cellular level? Well, when we’re talking about acidity, what are we talking about? We’re talking about pH—the pH balance. Well, pH means potential Hydrogen. So acidity, by definition, is the build-up of Hydrogen ions in the body and the more build-up you have of Hydrogen ions in the cells, the less oxygen you can utilize because once a cell is positively charged with Hydrogen, as oxygen approaches that cell for entry, it will literally get repelled away. So that’s truly the reason why acidity is so deadly to the body, because if sugar enters the Krebs cycle without any oxygen available, it’s not going to get broken down to energy. It’s going to get broken down to lactic acid. That’s called “anaerobic”—without oxygen—“anaerobic glycolysis.” And the breakdown of sugar without oxygen forms lactic acid and lactic acid is food for cancer. It feeds on lactic acid.
Justin: You know, it’s funny, when you you’re talking about that, the only thing that comes to mind is endurance athletes or bodybuilders or these people that are doing intense exercise and they’re building up all this lactic acid in their body and then what are they doing to energize themselves? They’re taking those Gatorade gel packs full of carbohydrate sugars, and that just is a recipe for cancer. Wouldn’t you think?
Patrick: Well, if you’re not properly oxygenating your tissues it would be. But I mean I would never touch Gatorade just because there’s a bunch of garbage in it anyway. But the point being is that when you create the proper cellular environment, release the acidity by drinking 20 pounds of fruits and vegetables every day, that neutralizes the acidity, creates an alkaline environment. Oxygen can properly be utilized by the body. Then you bombard the body with all the nutrients available in the juices because the mitochondria also need those nutrients to run their cycles. They need oxygen, sugar, magnesium, potassium, iron, zinc—all of those things—to run the energy cycles.
And finally, the primary principle of the Gerson Therapy is absolutely no sodium—added sodium—on the Gerson Diet, and bombarding the body with potassium. Why? Because sodium causes the build-up of edema or water in the cells and the mitochondria cannot function in that environment. So on the Gerson Therapy, you will get absolutely no added sodium, other than what naturally occurs in fruits and vegetables, and we bombard the body with potassium and what happens in all of our patients—and it would happen in you, in me—is that a load of sodium and water over a five to seven day period—and actually over months—but in large amounts over a five to seven day period… large amounts of sodium and water rush out of the cell and the cell’s integrity begins to restructure itself so that the mitochondria can function properly. So it’s those principles that make sugar absolutely vital in the cure of cancer and if you don’t eliminate those variables that I mentioned, sugar can feed cancer, but not the sugar—it’s the lactic acid that sugar is broken down into.
Justin: Wow, that’s so interesting. And you guys… Do you do any celery? Because you said the sodium… But that would be naturally occurring too.
Patrick: We do not concentrate celery juice on our therapy. Gerson eliminated celery from the diet, other than a little bit of celery in a special soup that we make, and the reason why is because celery is one of the highest concentrations of sodium you can get out of any vegetable. In fact, it is the highest concentration of sodium you can get out of any vegetable. And if you juice celery if you have cancer, you’re concentrating high amounts of sodium in a body that I guarantee is already overloaded with sodium and water in the cellular tissue. So you’ve got to eliminate sodium on the Gerson Therapy.
Justin: And you also have a special Gerson potassium powder that you implement into your protocol, don’t you?
Patrick: Gerson came up with a special potassium compound powder through 300 different experiments that he did. It took him 300 experiments to come up with the one that he concocted. It’s a powder that we dilute in a quart of water and then our patients get four teaspoons of that diluted potassium in ever juice.
Justin: Oh wow.
Kate: Wow.
Justin: That is fascinating. Well, I know that you’re a busy man and you have to be out by 10:00 am sharp, so as kind of a last question here, what kinds of things are you guys working on? I know that you just got that new juicer and I know you travel all around the world giving lectures and things. What kinds of things are coming up for you?
Patrick: In terms of just my logistical life or the therapy?
Justin: Either one.
Patrick: Yeah. Well, our clinic is like doubling every three months. It’s unbelievable the amount of exposure and popularity that our clinic is getting. So for now, I’m bound to the clinic. I believe in February, March and April, there will be a few venues. I think in April I’m going to be in Missouri. I think in March or February I’m going to be in Cleveland and I may be in Nashville in February or March as well. But as of right now, I’m staying put here. We just opened this clinic within the last year and before I can turn it over and have it run so that I can free up my life a little more, I’m staying put here for now.
Kate: Wow.
Justin: Wow. Well, amazing work and thank you for being on the show today. We really appreciate that so much, Doctor.
Patrick: Yeah, thank you. We can do it again. We could talk for hours about the things that we’re doing here.
Justin: I know. I have a thousand more questions but I know that you’ve got to go.
Kate: Thank you.
Justin: I appreciate it so much.
Patrick: Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you very much and it was a pleasure meeting you and talking with you too.
Kate: You too. Happy Thanksgiving.
Patrick: Thank you.
Kate: Bye-bye.
Justin: All right. Well, there you have it.
Kate: Well, there you have it.
Justin: Dr. Patrick Vickers. What do you think about what he said?
Kate: Oh, wow. For those of you who don’t know, he referenced Ashley at the beginning of this show and Ashley is one of our faithful listeners and she’s amazing and she had written me an email… I think maybe to you too, Justin?
Justin: Uh-huh, yeah that’s right.
Kate: Talking about how Dr. Vickers had actually worked it out to send her down to his clinic. She was very interested in all the healing modalities and things that he’s into and she’s pursuing that field of alternative health. And she just wrote me an email and said, “Oh, you’re going to love having him on. He’s a firecracker. He’s so passionate about what he does.” I am so glad that we were able to really see that come through. He must be that person all the time. You can tell. He lives, eats and breathes it and he’s an amazing man.
Justin: Yeah, he’s a fascinating guy. He was saying about how doing the coffee enema once a day just for maintenance is critical. That’s crazy.
Kate: Well, and Stella, we had her in the chat room and she says, “Oh gosh. It’s so true, with the big city, all those taxis.” I mean like he said, especially referencing a big city. You’re just getting bombarded. We feel like in our little town—our little village town here—we can’t step outside without breathing tar and fumes. But gosh, big cities, it’s just escalated to a whole different animal.
Justin: Oh, I know, right?
Kate: But it’s important on all levels, for all of us, and I think about me daily with all those toxins I have to breathe at the hair salon and hopefully not one of these days, but until then, I think it’s super imperative that I be doing these.
Justin: At some point we thought about how we weren’t really sure if you should be doing them every day, but he said he’s been doing two a day for 15 years?
Kate: 15 years.
Justin: And Charlotte’s been doing two a day for 60 years?
Kate: Yeah. He’s right. They are living proof that it won’t kill you. It can only help you.
Justin: Yeah, because a lot of people talk about how you’ll lose electrolytes, you’ll inflame your colon, you’ll become dependent on them to go to the bathroom. But it just doesn’t appear to be true.
Kate: It doesn’t appear to be true. I’m going to continue on my path because I feel… The proof is in the pudding. What you see come out of you is a little frightening. Like he was saying, everybody has worms and everybody has staph and… Blah! It’s just so good. I’ve talked to people and I get so excited talking about the coffee enemas, when they’re all “Gosh. I’d rather not know. I’d rather just not know what’s in there.”
Justin: Do people say that to you?
Kate: Oh, all the time.
Justin: Really?
Kate: “I would rather it just stay up there and not know.” And to me, I’m like, “How could you even say that? When you see what comes out of you, you’d rather have that hanging out in your digestive system or your liver?” Ugh.
Justin: I know, right? I mean it’s almost a foregone conclusion that these things are in us and so it’s not a matter of not knowing because you know they’re there.
Kate: Yeah. Once you know they’re there. Once they’re aware, it blows my mind that they still react to that that way.
Justin: Right. Oh my gosh.
Kate: Yeah.
Justin: A couple other things I wanted to ask him too was a lot of people use wheatgrass and they’ll do oxygen.
Kate: Oh, see? I know.
Justin: You know? There are other substances that people will use. Some people will put a little bit of salt or baking soda or all kinds of different substances in the enemas.
Kate: I’ve heard that throughout the years too. See, again, we need him back on. We barely got to scratch the surface. You think, “How long could a person talk about enemas?” but we could talk for two hours just on that without exhausting it.
Justin: Oh yeah. It’s interesting how he explained how the coffee goes up through the hemorrhoidal veins to the liver—that’s how it gets there.
Kate: I actually didn’t know that.
Justin: Yeah, that’s interesting. And I want to know how come we can’t hold it? Certain times you can hold it…
Kate: I can hold it for 15—the whole thing sometimes—and other times I can’t hold anything in for more than two minutes. Stella was saying that in the chat room too. She can’t hold it very long either.
Justin: Yeah, I can’t figure out how people are able to hold 32 ounces at once. Is that what he’s saying? In one go?
Kate: Yeah, he is. Uh-huh. And that people can take it within one or two days there. They’ll be used to that and be able to hold it. That blows my mind. But maybe at their treatment center, they’re… I don’t know. Maybe they’re doing everything else that enables their body to… Because I figure I think the ability for me to hold them for different amounts of times on different days really depends around what I’m eating and when I’m eating and when I’m doing the enemas.
Justin: I wanted to ask him too… I should have asked him about… I had it on my list but you can’t get to every question. But I wanted to ask him about whether or not they’re okay to do after a big meal because he said…
Kate: First thing in the morning.
Justin: First thing in the morning. Obviously you’re doing it on an empty stomach first thing in the morning, but let’s say you have lunch. Let’s say you just eat a regular lunch, like a turkey sandwich or something. Yeah, and would it be beneficial to do right after or would it be more beneficial to wait three or four hours after that before your next meal?
Kate: I would love to know his opinion because I’ve done some research on that online and there are always mixed opinions about everything. But I think it was a little bit overriding the people that said it was better to do after a big meal, like to do it within that hour.
Justin: Oh really?
Kate: I don’t know why. But people have said they’ve had better experiences and they tend to feel better and get more out of them.
Justin: Interesting.
Kate: I have no idea. I mean I think he knows a little bit more than most people online just randomly blogging and talking about their experiences.
Justin: I thought it was interesting too how he talked about how as long as he’s mineralized, he can expel it all because you know how sometimes you’ll expel it but you feel like you haven’t got all of it out?
Kate: Right, and then like 20 minutes later you’re like, “Oh, it’s still up there. I’ve got to go again.”
Justin: Yeah. Right, but if he’s… Like he said, because he was so mineralized or he is so mineralized from the juicing he does, it helps him to expel it all.
Kate: Yes.
Justin: Because it’s interesting because they talk about the liver being involved with anger, you know? And I had on my list of questions to ask him too, but about I wonder if it would be beneficial to do maybe some forgiveness or…
Kate: Emotional work?
Justin: Emotional work while you’re doing the enema.
Kate: I think that could only help, in my humble opinion. I mean I think it all is so much more interconnected than we know. So I truly believe that would only make your experience and your treatments and your healing even more powerful. I have to think.
Justin: Yeah. Yeah, because they say the liver, in Chinese Medicine, correlates to the emotion of anger and so if you have that, then it would be… I would imagine, on an energetic level, to enhance the benefits of the enema, to do some emotional work while you’re doing the enema.
Kate: I first heard that when I was getting my first colonic and she said… She was feeling around and she was in there—the therapist—like really rubbing around my organs while the water was flowing in and she was talking to me and she was pressing on my liver and she said, “You must be a really angry person.” She goes, “You’re the nicest angry person I’ve ever met.” I said, “What does that mean?” and that’s when she explained to me that we hold the anger in our liver and she said my liver just felt different and I had two acupuncturists tell me that before too. And I thought, “Gosh.” You start paying attention. When one person says it, you’re like, “Oh, whatever” and then when two people or three people start saying, “Your liver feels a little off. You might have anger issues…” And I had to look into that though and I realized, you know, I’ve had dreams where I’m just lashing out, yelling at people in my dreams because I don’t do that in real life.
Justin: Because you probably hold it in.
Kate: I hold it all in. So I think that’s what’s caused a lot of my liver issues, you know? That’s where I carry my stress and anger and I’ve really worked on that and I’ve come a long way. So yeah, I think maybe having that serenity and that emotional work while you’re holding the coffee enema could only benefit you. I find it really interesting.
Justin: I wonder if he does colonics as well. I mean talked about how they’re different.
Kate: There are so many questions. I know.
Justin: But I would suspect… I mean if you read the book, Colon Health, by… What’s his name?
Kate: Not Marshall, is it?
Justin: No, it’s… He lived until he was like 117, the story goes.
Kate: We have that.
Justin: Yeah, we have a book. It’s called Colon Health. It’s written by a doctor and he swears by doing colonics. Let’s see. He does a series of six colonics twice a year for maintenance and that’s kind of what he was talking about in that book, Colon Health. Oh, Dr. Norman Walker.
Kate: That’s right. I was looking for it.
Justin: That’s who it was. Dr. Norman Walker. And he recommends doing colonics, like I said, as a round of two of them six times per year. So I imagine that would look like maybe in June you would go—during the month of June—to do two colonics one week, two colonics the next week, two colonics the third week, and then in January, you’d do the same thing. But I wonder… I know they’re different than enemas, but I imagine… I mean I’ve heard people say they’re bad and things and I’ve heard people say they’re the best thing ever, but…
Kate: Yeah, I don’t know as far as the cycles of things because I’ve also heard that the cycles of coffee enemas are good and then to lay off of them. I mean I think it’s kind of anybody’s guess. Do your research and make your own opinion because I mean I don’t think doing a colonic every day would probably be…
Justin: No.
Kate: It is a little bit more aggressive. I mean it doesn’t feel aggressive, but I think you’re getting farther up in there and you do need probably a little bit more bacteria and you don’t want to wipe out your whole colony. But I don’t know.
Justin: Yeah, so, so interesting. I want to start doing them more often, I think.
Kate: I think you should. But you know how passionate I get about them.
Justin: Are you going to still do the water ones?
Kate: I think I will. I was chatting in the chat room a little bit with Stella about that as well.
Justin: Like doing them in the evening or something?
Kate: I think so. Still, even though he said they’re probably not worth much, I’ve still had some pretty strange experiences with things coming out, so I know that again, I’d still rather have it out of my body than being in my body. And to be honest, it just feels good, as long as I’m not dependent on them. It just feels really clean and just like really warm. It just feels like it cleanses me out.
Justin: And you know what’s great about enemas is we didn’t even talk about this, but we’re talking about cancer and chronic degenerative diseases with people, but enemas are just incredible for your skin, for your hair, for your eyes, for your eyesight, for your nails—for all these external…
Kate: Your weight.
Justin: Your weight.
Kate: Everything. Yeah, I’ve had little… I don’t know if they’re called liver spots… that start to get dark on your face. People get them all over, but ever since I’ve been doing the enemas and doing more juices, they have completely lightened. They’re not completely gone, but they have lightened a lot, like many, many shades.
Justin: You could probably prevent liver spots and aging on your skin.
Kate: I bet you could.
Justin: I think also too, why don’t they have enemas as part of the healing protocol and modalities of people doing an emotional work, like going to therapies and things? Because if your liver stores anger and you’re energetically doing emotional work and you’re doing enemas and things like that, what an amazing way to open yourself up to have more of an open mind, to release toxicity in the form of emotional toxicity as you’re releasing physical toxicity. It’s almost as if people that go to therapists and things like that are missing a part of it, a healing component.
Kate: Yeah. No, I couldn’t agree more.
Justin: And for the Gerson Therapy, this entire thing is the foundation of their approach. So I would suspect that doing some emotional work along with it would be great. But the other thing that I thought was cool too was it kind of makes you understand how important it is to juice if you’re going to do the enemas.
Kate: Yeah, which we do, but maybe we need to up the ante a little bit on that.
Justin: Yeah, we juice probably about… what, five days a week, I’d say?
Kate: Yeah. We used to do it every day for a while there, but…
Justin: But it would be beneficial if you’re going to do enemas to make sure you juice, which is awesome because juicing is great for your skin, cancer prevention and it’s great for all these other reasons. But it just kind of forces you to do something else.
Kate: Yeah, it gets you into a second good habit.
Justin: Exactly.
Kate: Yeah. I’m with you.
Justin: Dr. Patrick Vickers.
Kate: Oh, that was great.
Justin: He is an amazing individual. Northern Baja Gerson Treatment Center.
Kate: Do you know where?
Justin: He’s in Rosarito.
Kate: Oh, okay. We’ve been there.
Justin: Yeah, so he’s not too far from us. I think he’s about 30 minutes south of the border at Tijuana.
Kate: That’s not bad.
Justin: And he told me before the show that, I think, four times a week he’s got to go up to San Diego to get produce. So he had to leave right at 10:00 because he’s…
Kate: Got to go get his goods.
Justin: Yeah, I mean the whole foundation of his… If he doesn’t get that produce, people don’t heal.
Kate: Nobody’s getting healed, right? Yeah, you could tell he’s very passionate about what he does and he only does the best of the best.
Justin: Yeah, so check out GersonTreatment.com. If you know of anyone with cancer, you really should look into his protocols and don’t forget to check out our show with Kari Gray that we did yesterday on cancer… Not on cancer. Well, she had cancer, but we did a show, Episode 184, and if you look into the Gerson Treatment and find out you can’t afford it or it’s too expensive, there is a really interesting new insurance option called MyGreenSurance.com and this is really fascinating because it is basically catastrophic insurance for life-threatening diseases and diagnoses, but they cover…
Kate: Any kind of alternative treatment center you… or whatever treatments you wish to do.
Justin: Yeah. So this is something huge.
Kate: Check that out.
Justin: I have no idea how much it costs, but if you’ve heard it costs too much—because I’m sure it’s expensive because it costs a lot to do all this stuff—but listen to our show, Episode 184, ExtremeHealthRadio.com/184 and listen to our show with Kari Gray because that might open up some options for you, in terms of the Gerson Treatment.
Kate: Yes. Check it out.
Justin: Good stuff. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it so much. If you have any questions about the show, you can go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/185 and make your comments at the bottom of that show page and you can also email the questions to me or Kate, justin@ExtremeHealthRadio.com.
Kate: Or kate@ExtremeHealthRadio.com.
Justin: And if you want to share the benefits of coffee enemas with all your Facebook friends—I’m sure they’re going to love it—please pass this show on if you can, to anyone you know via Facebook, Twitter or just by email. That would be very, very helpful to us and it will be amazing for everybody.
Kate: And we’ll be back for another show.
Justin: That’s right—shortly.
Kate: Yep. So anybody live listening, we’ll be back at 11:00 our time.
Justin: 11:00 Pacific, in 45 minutes, to talk about rebounding.
Kate: Awesome.
Justin: That’ll be good stuff. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us and we’ll catch you on the next episode.
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May 27, 2025 • 1h 11min
David Sereda – How Crystals Work For Improving Health & Tips For Blocking EMF Radiation From Ipads
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David Sereda joined us today to talk about some remarkable subjects relating to energy, healing, quantum mechanics and crystals. We didn’t try to do this but the show focused on crystals primarily. Sometimes we just ride the wave and see how the show goes. The idea of crystals must have been something that either we needed to hear or you did as the listener.
We go with the flow here on Extreme Health Radio! We really needed to have 4 hours with David Sereda to get to all of his fascinating information. Although we did cover quite a few subjects during this interview (as you can see below) there were lots that we didn’t get a chance to cover. Here’s what we didn’t get a chance to talk about, Platonic Solids, Metatron’s cube, Flower of life, Sri Yantra, Pineal Gland, Chakras, Sacred Geometry, Dreams, The Philosophers Stone, Implosion technology, Tachyon energy, Germanium, the sacred egg shape, Toroidal fields and much more.
That’s okay though because we were able to talk with Mr. David Sereda more in depth about a few subjects and dive right into them. One of the more fascinating topics was using crystals for our health.
For some reason there’s an energetic charge that crystals can carry. This is why it’s used in computer chips and in many other forms of technology. The crystal is almost able to be programmed (similar to water which we talked about) with different frequencies that can affect our bio energetic field.
There are many different ways to use crystals for your health which we talk about during the show. We also had some time to discuss is frequency pendants that he makes. He infuses the sound of the sun into the matrix of the necklaces and jewelry that he sells. If you’re going to wear something around your neck all day why not have it heal you at the same time?
David Sereda is really a fascinating man we really hope you enjoy the show today.
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We discuss the following and so much more:
How crystals store energy
How to use them in your everyday life
How David uses crystals in his everyday life
How to charge water and drink structured water
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May 26, 2025 • 1h 36min
Dr. David Steenblock – Treating ALS, Dementia, Joints, Strokes & More With Hyperbaric Oxygen, Stem Cells & PEMF Therapy!
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We had Dr. David Steenblock on the show to discuss natural health treatments such as hyperbaric oxygen therapy, stem cell therapy and even PEMF (pulsed electromagnetic field) therapy.
We discussed how these treatments are being used on conditions such as ALA, dementia, alzheimer’s disease, strokes, heart attacks, joint problems and so much more1
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May 25, 2025 • 1h 18min
How To Survive A Heart Attack, Cleansing Ideas, Our Garden Updates & Much More!
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This was another fun Free For All Friday Show we had for you today. It’s been really fun talking with Kate, taking listener questions and generally having a good time on the show.
Kate and I talked about a wide array of subjects on this show. We actually went for almost an hour and 20 minutes. It was great fun! We talked about some strategies we’ve been learning about how to overcome a heart attack if you’re alone. I actually wrote a blog post about it. I believe heart disease is the 2nd highest killer of men and women in the United States behind cancer. That statistic is probably true in all western countries like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa and others. Our diet and lifestyle are so poor that the stress is literally killing us. It’s no surprise that more heart attacks happen on Monday morning than at any other time.
I had a pretty good gash on my shoulder that we talked about as well. I learned how to apply some charcoal on it from 7 Song and the guys over at Herb First Aid. I was walking along over to the gym and I accidentally walked into a sharp spike and it jammed itself into my shoulder almost to the bone.
We also talked about our garden and gave some inspiring updates on some things we’re doing with our soils and how much fun we’re having with not much space. It’s really a great thing to learn how to grown your own groceries for 2 main reasons. The first reason is you don’t have to rely on the government, supermarkets, the grid or the supply system in case there are emergencies that prevent us from buying food at the health food store. The other great thing about growing your own food is that you can add things like rock dust, ocean minerals, thalassa mix, compost tea and regular compost to your soils to make sure each plant is getting the most minerals into them for you to eat. As we know it’s all about minerals.
We also talked about live blood cell testing and what we learned about our blood under the microscope.
We took a listener question about cleansing and detoxifying chemicals and toxins from someone who was exposed to a crop duster as a child.
Kate and I talked about some plans she has with her blog as well as generally having another great time!
Thanks for listening everyone!
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How to survive a heart attack when you’re alone
Freedom The Courage To Be Yourself by OSHO
Grounded blood video
Dr. Mary Newport’s site for reversing Alzheimers with MCT Oil
Dr. Terry Wahls who reversed MS naturally using a specific diet
Dr. Stuart Nunally who reversed ALS with high doses of Vitamin C and Far Infrared Sauna to sweat out toxins
Harvey Diamond who survived exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam
Dr. Ken Sutter (interview) who reversed liver cancer naturally from exposures to toxins in Vietnam
Austin Air Purifiers
Live blood cell analysis from Mike Casey at Restoration Ranch
Kate’s project and plans for her blog
Thoughts about the show we did with Atom Bergstrom
The progress we’re making on our spring garden.
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24 Uses For Apple Cider Vinegar (see photo here)
Chronic fatigue
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Bamboo Palm: It removes formaldahyde and is also said to act as a natural humidifier.
Snake Plant: It absorb nitrogen oxides and formaldahyde.
Areca Palm: One of the best air purifying plants for general air cleanliness.
Spider Plant: Great indoor plant for removing carbon monoxide and other toxins or impurities. Spider plants are one of three plants NASA deems best at removing formaldahyde from the air.
Peace Lily: Peace lilies could be called the “clean-all.” They’re often placed in bathrooms or laundry rooms because they’re known for removing mold spores. Also know to remove formaldahyde and trichloroethylene.
Gerbera Daisy: Not only do these gorgeous flowers remove benzene from the air, they’re known to improve sleep by absorbing carbon dioxide and giving off more oxygen over night.
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“The act of forgiveness takes place in our own mind. It really has nothing to do with the other person.” Louise Hay author of You Can Heal Your Life
“Our homes should be a supportive sanctuary. There are many things in the world that are less than loving, and often we feel we can’t control those things, but we can control our home environments by choosing to live with what we love. We need to insist that, at the very least, we feel good and can “win” in our own homes. The same qualities that we create in our homes—love, peace, joy, inspiration—will be the same qualities that we experience in our lives.” — Laura Carlin and Alison Forbes — Laura Carlin and Alison Forbes
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May 24, 2025 • 60min
Author Ty Bollinger On Cancer, Health & Disease
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Today Ty Bollinger dropped by to discuss his book Cancer Step Outside the Box (Affiliate Link. Helps to support our work), Herbs, the pharmaceutical industry, natural healing and living a healthy lifestyle in a way that prevents cancer.
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JUSTIN: Thank you everybody for joining the very first podcast for Extreme HealthRadio.com . You can find this podcast at ExtremeHealthRadio.com/1. We have today with us Ty Bollinger. He is a medical researcher and author. He has a website called cancertruth.net and another one called survivalherbs.com. He has written a very great book called ‘Cancer-Step Outside the Box’. I am actually reading that right now and am on page 90, where you’re talking about the Ph of the body and of the blood and all that good stuff, so I highly suggest you check out his book and his website, as well as following him on Facebook. He has written a lot of good stuff on Facebook. Actually today Ty, you were mentioning some things about the benefits of liquorice for cancer.
TY: Yes, thanks Justin for having me on. I am honored that you had me on your first show here and I appreciate it.
JUSTIN: You’re welcome.
TY: On Facebook I do a daily health tip. I try to do a daily health tip, but sometimes I miss. Today’s tip was on liquorice and there are a lot of uses for liquorice. One of them is that it is anti-cancerous, anti-viral, anti-fungal and helps with AIDS, HIV and so on. There are so many uses for liquorice. It is one of the medicinal herbs that is in my book, ‘A Guide To Understanding Herbal Medicine’ and it is one of over 100 herbs we cover in that book. It’s amazing Justin though how many medicinal uses there are for herbs out there and how ignorant people typically are of those herbs. One fact that a lot of folks don’t understand is that over 80% of pharmaceutical drugs are actually based on the active constituents in medicinal herbs. So, it’s kind of funny to me, ironic I guess is a better term, that a typical conventional doctor would say that someone who uses herbs is a quack, when 80% of the drugs that they prescribe are based on those herbs.
JUSTIN: Wow, what happens when they do a prescription, or some sort of drug, if those drugs are based off of herbs, do they synthesize and make the pharmaceuticals not as natural, and thereby when they do that, they take out all the buffer components and things like that. Is that what happens?
TY: Yes, it is kind of the way it happens. And what will happen, typically. Is they’ll find an herb that has a very potent active constituent. Let’s say,
milk thistle has silymarin in it. They would take the milk thistle and they would extract the silymarin, just one active constituent, and then they would tweak it a little bit, change it out so that they could patent it. Then they would make that into a drug. The problem with that is twofold: #1, when you change the natural herb that God has made, then you would make it less effective, because it is in it’s most effective state in it’s natural state, and #2, when you remove it from the other active constituents of that medicinal herb, there may be 20, 30 or 100 other active constituents in that herb. They all work together in a synergy. When you remove it from it’s natural state with those other active constituents, then it no longer works together in a synergy, and so it’s not going to be as effective because of that. So, you have changed it and you have removed it from the other active constituents. So, it no longer works in the way that it was intended to. But the pharmaceutical companies can now patent it and sell it at a 6,000% mark-up and make huge profits on it. So, that’s why that happens, because the herbs are typically …….where the active constituents that would treat a certain illness are found. But you can’t patent the herbs, you have to patent an active constituent after you’ve tweaked it, so that’s why that happens.
JUSTIN: So that’s probably one of the main reasons why you can’t combine certain drugs with other drugs. Right? Because of that effect, right? Because it has a really tough time on your liver and all that, right?
TY: Yes, just one example. You are familiar with Ephedrine, right? It was an over-the-counter drug that was really popular maybe 20 years ago, when I was in college actually, just after I got out of college. It was kind of like over-the-counter speed. A lot of truck drivers took Ephedrine to stay awake, it’s almost like caffeine in a pill. There was some problems that people encountered from heart arrhythmia and heart attacks and so on, because they took too much of the stuff to start with, and so the FDA outlawed Ephedrine. I think you can still get it now, as it’s gone back and forth over the last two decades, as to whether it’s legal or not. The problem is Ephedra, Ma Huang, the herb, has so many other active constituents, other than just the Ephedrine that you can pull out of the herb. So, they all work together in a synergy to stop the heart palpitations, to stop the heart attacks and so on, because the other active constituents will depress that, so that it won’t cause the detrimental side effects if you take the whole herb. But what happens is that the drug companies were taking just the one active constituent and marketing that, and that’s where you run into the problems.
JUSTIN: Wow, so I can see how you obviously can’t patent an herb and that why they’re just extracting the one thing. That’s pretty amazing. So, I notice in your book….your book by the way, I’ve been reading it, is 450 pages.
TY: It’s actually just over 500 pages. I didn’t include the introduction, the preface and a lot of the pages before the first chapter in the page count, so it is actually just over 500 pages because I numbered it kind of funny.
JUSTIN: Wow, if anyone wants to get a primer on cancer, how to heal from cancer naturally or how to prevent cancer, this is, in my opinion, the bible of natural health
TY: Thank you.
JUSTIN: It’s absolutely amazing. There is a few other books I want to read, but this is the gold standard in my mind.
TY: Thanks Justin. I appreciate it. It was really a labor of love for me. I’m sure if you’re on page 90, you have gotten through the story of my family. What really inspired me. I’m a CPA, with a Master’s Degree in Taxation, and people would often ask ‘what inspired you to write a book on cancer’. Well, I lost my mom and dad, an uncle and a cousin and two grandads and a grandma to cancer over a period of seven years. That’s what really inspired me to start researching and kind of using the skills I had acquired when I was getting a Master’s Degree in Taxation, to do research and summarize information, to kind of use that in the health field to do research about cancer and natural health. So, that’s kind of what lead me to write the book. I had all this knowledge and was learning all this shocking information about cancer treatments that are being suppressed and that worked actually better than chemo, radiation and surgery. I felt like I needed to share it with people, so that mom and dad would be able to look down from heaven and be proud that I was using their deaths in a constructive way and that there was some kind of usefulness to other people from what they had to suffer. So that was really my inspiration to write the book.
JUSTIN: You and I both have somewhat the same kind of a story. I got into health, as well, when my mom had non-Hodgkins lymphoma back in 1995 and she was given a 1-10% chance of living, or something like that. Anyway, the odds were against her. At that time, we didn’t know anything. She had chemotherapy and radiation. I donated platelets as she had a bone marrow transplant. Thank God, she is still alive today and is doing well. I am really excited and I am going to give her the book next. It looks like you must have done hours and hours of research for this thing, because there is so many references, it’s unbelievable.
TY: I actually probably spent between 7,000 and 10,000 hours of research over a period of 10 years, between 1996 and 2006, when I published the book, so it was probably around 7,500 hours when I calculated it out.
JUSTIN: Oh my gosh, that’s amazing. What are some of the things you do on a daily basis, that are anti-cancer. What is on your daily list of things you do every day, whether they be activities like rebounding. What kind of things do you do?
TY: Great question, because that is the practical aspect. What do you do, what do you do to treat cancer and what you do to prevent it. Rebounding is something I do on a daily basis. I have a mini-trampoline for most people who are not familiar with the term rebounding. It’s basically just jumping up and down on the mini-tramp. What that does is that it stimulates the lymphatic system. The lymphatic system is one of the primary detoxification systems in our body. Most folks don’t stimulate their lymph flow, so the toxicity in their bodies builds up because their lymph is not stimulated. The up and down motion on the rebounder stimulates the lymph flow better than just about any other exercise. So, I do that, probably five days a week. I have an ….infrared sauna, so I sit in the sauna every night religiously. Unless we are out of town, I don’t miss the sauna. I sit in it every night that we’re here at the house.
JUSTIN: Even when it’s so hot like this, in the summer?
TY: Yeah, if you think about it, unless you’re a farmer, you’re sitting in an air-conditioned office most of the day.
JUSTIN: Yeah, that’s true.
TY: It may be nasty outside, but most people, especially if you work in an office, the biggest amount of time you spend during the day in the heat, is walking from the office to the car and then back.
JUSTIN: Right.
TY: So, you’re not really getting the heat you need to your cells. The hypothermia is what kills viruses, bacteria and fungi. Cancer cells don’t really like heat either, so the …..infrared sauna facilitates that and I do that almost every night.
JUSTIN: How long to you do each one of those things, the rebounder and the sauna?
TY: I do the rebounder anywhere from 10-15 or 20 minutes a day, depending on how much time I’ve got, but at least 10 minutes a day. I will typically lay in the sauna for 35-40 minutes.
JUSTIN: What kind of rebounders or saunas do you recommend. If you don’t mind me asking, what brands do you recommend?
TY: The rebounder we have is a neebak rebounder. The reason I got is I am a big guy, who weighs about 220 lbs. You don’t want to get a rebounder that is for kids that have 150 lb max. That’s why we got the neebak. There are other brands of rebounders, so just check the weight specifications to make sure it will hold your specific weight. We got our sauna from the Wolfe clinic, thewolfeclinic.com. They sell far infrared saunas that are just about as affordable as anywhere that I found. Dr. Darryl Wolfe is a good friend of mine and he used to own the Wolfe Clinic. He doesn’t anymore, but I know the quality of their products, so that’s where I got the far infrared sauna.
There is a section in the book, Justin, that you will get to, on the far infrared sauna and hypothermia as a treatment for cancer. There is a lot of good research that shows that cancer cells don’t live in a hot environment like the far infrared sauna can create. So, that’s one of the first things I know a lot of practitioners will do. They will get their cancer patients doing rebounding and will have them get a far infrared sauna and will get them doing this on a daily basis. The normal cells are able to adapt to a hot environment and cancer cells typically will die. So it’s a good selectively toxic treatment for cancer cells, to just super heat them, because they will die and the other normal cells will respond to that heat and will adapt and won’t die. So, those are two things I do on a daily basis.
As far as my nutritional and dietary daily habit is, I guess you would say, is that we eat a lot of organic, fresh fruits and vegetables. We have laying hens here on our property, so we do a lot of pastured eggs. There is a very high nutritional value in pastured eggs, no matter what the mainstream nutritional philosophy is on eggs. That eggs are too high in cholesterol. That is a bunch of hogwash. Eggs are one of the best natural nutritional proteins that you can get. One of my good friends, Casey Tracy, on livingfuel.com, we buy in bulk from him, our living fuel super grains and super berries. These are just dehydrated powdered products that we make into a smoothie each day. That’s our lunch, every day, when we’re home. A super grain, super berry shake with clay protein. We do that every day for lunch. The kids drink it, a nice big thick shake so it really fills you up. Even my 2 year old, Charity, will drink a shake every day and she actually likes the way it tastes. She will come and ask me for the shake.
JUSTIN: That is so great.
TY: Yeah, they’re getting a really good nutritional basis when they are young. We will do that. We will do a lot of salads, a lot of grass fed buffalo, pastured chickens. We try not to buy chicken and meat from stores, because I’m sure you’re familiar with the way they treat the animals in a really inhumane way, and they also inject them with all kinds of antibiotics and growth hormones, to get them fat faster. So, that is passed onto the meat, so we try and stay away from that, if at all possible. Lots of salads, lots of fruits and veggies. The kids know that in-between meals they can eat all the fruit and vegetables they want, but they can’t eat anything other than that.
JUSTIN: You don’t do much of the breads and pastas and all that kind of stuff?
TY: I don’t personally, but the kids still eat some good organic breads, like split-grain. I know there is a lot of people who say stay away from wheat altogether. That obviously is a pretty good idea, but kids are kids and they like bread. So, if they eat bread, I want them to have a decent brand of bread that is either the Ezekiel kind of bread or split-grain bread. They do eat bread, but we limit that. They just know that they are able to eat fruits and vegetables to their hearts desire. Anytime they want a super-smoothie, they can make a super-smoothie and have the living fuel super grains and super berry shake. So, that’s kind of our nutritional regimen. We will eat popcorn. I buy only organic, because the last statistic was, I think in 2011, 89% of the corn in the United States is genetically modified, so we never buy anything that has corn in it, but we do have a good supply of organic corn. I know it’s organic, so we will buy corn, pop it in coconut oil and put a little sea salt on it and it tastes great, a good snack for the kids. It is not necessarily healthy, but it’s not unhealthy either, and you know, kids are going to want to snack on something, so I’d rather them snack on something cooked in extra-virgin coconut.
JUSTIN: Right. It sounds like the name of the game really is getting people to be more aware of understanding that cancer can be prevented. I just don’t think people understand, a lot of the normal people out there, that there is a relationship between cancer and diet. I think they are becoming more aware, but the name of the game is really just prevention.
TY: You made a good point there Justin. Most people are not aware of the impact that our diet has on cancer and other diseases. I also host a weekly radio show and I was, just last week, interviewing Casey Tracy, my friend I told you about from Living Fuel. We talked about an example that really struck home for me. We just got back from vacation, but before we went on vacation we were at a Jiffy Lube, or some similar store like that, getting the fluids in our car changed as we were driving 2000 miles. We wanted to make sure that the fluids were good. I told Casey that what really struck me as ironic, is that we were in this Jiffy Lube and we waiting for our to be worked on, and in walks this, what I would call a morbidly obese man. He probably weighed close to 400 lbs. A big big fellow. I don’t know how he walked. He was munching on donuts and when he got there and said there was a synthetic oil he wanted them to put in his car. It wasn’t 10W30 or 10W40, it was some kind of synthetic mix. He said ‘my car won’t run right if you put the 10W30 or 10W40 in it. I want you to use this particular brand. They told him it’s more expensive and he said ‘I don’t care, that’s the brand I want in my car’. All the while, this big fat guy is eating a doughnut and I thought to myself how sad it was that here’s this big fat man, who is killing himself with what he is eating, but he is so specific on the oil that he puts in his car. The fuel that he is giving his car, the lubrication for his car, is more important to him, and he doesn’t car about the cost, than the food he puts in his mouth. We just made an analogy how it is so important for you to look at the fuel you put in your body which is important as the fuel you put in your car. As the mechanic said, it doesn’t really matter if you put kerosene or diesel fuel in your gas tank, it doesn’t really matter what the fuel is, as a matter of fact you could even throw cool-aid in there, the liquid doesn’t matter, as long as it’s wet. You’d think your mechanic was nuts, but you know that’s really what doctors will tell you, if they tell you that your diet has no effect on your health, isn’t it?
JUSTIN: Yeah, it’s absolutely amazing. One doctor I was talking to, this must have been about 10 years ago, before I got into health, I asked him why there was such an increase in cancer. Maybe some of it has to do with, you know, just getting older and people closer to you are dying of
cancer, or get cancer, more so than when you’re 10 or something. He said, ‘oh, I think it’s just because we have better screenings now. It’s just so interesting.
When we come back from this little commercial I’m going to run, I want to ask you a little bit about where you think cancer starts and the role of estrogen and things like that. So, we’ll be back in one second.
JUSTIN: Hi guys. Thanks for listening to the interview so far and I hope you are enjoying it. I just want to take a brief moment and talk about cancer. There is this really great e-book by Ty Bollinger that I strongly suggest you check out. It’s called ‘Cancer-Step Outside The Box’ and you can find it, if you go to our site. This is a product that I strongly recommend. I think in 2005, cancer became the #1 cause of death in Americans. Maybe it was heart disease, but in any event, I think about 1 out of every 2 people get cancer, and chances are you’ve had it or you have known someone who has had it.
My mom actually had cancer in 1995. She had non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma with a 1-10% chance of survival.
I watched her go through that. She had chemotherapy, radiation and a bone marrow/stem cell transplant and I thought ‘there had to be a better and more natural way of either treating it or preventing it altogether’. So, I’m really passionate about this and Ty Bollinger has put together an amazing book. I actually have it and am on page 89 right now. It is about a 430 page book. In the part that I’m on, he’s talking about the acid alkaline balance and the PH balance of the different tissues. What I like about it is that he’s got an appendix at the end about really great cancer clinics that treat cancer naturally. All of the natural cancer clinics that he talks about in his book are the most popular ones, as well as the most effective ones. You and mix and match and combine them up and, if you follow at lot of his information, you most likely will never get cancer to begin with. This book is just a ‘must have’ for everyone. If you don’t have anyone with cancer in your life right now, purchase it and keep it for future reference.
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JUSTIN: Alright Ty, again, thank you for coming on our show today. I really appreciate it. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions, about where you think cancer starts. As I was saying, my doctor doesn’t think there is any increase in cancer, and that there is just better screening. There’s a lot of people who talk about the lack of oxygen in the cells. I’m not sure if you’re familar with Dr. Bob Dowling.
TY: Yes.
JUSTIN: He talks about cancer being related to your teeth. There is a Dr. William Wong who talks about fibrosis and cancer. David Wolfe talks about calcium and Nick Gonzales talks about the lack of pancreatic enzymes or lack of minerals. In my opinion, it seems like that is kind of like, thinking about where cancer starts, and having it be connected with something out there, like your teeth or a toxin you’re exposed to. It’s kind of similar to the germ theory and to the host theory, where people demonize the germs, and then the terrain theory that he talks about. If you have a strong terrain inside your body, it doesn’t matter what kind of germs you’re exposed to, if you have a healthy immune system.
TY: Yeah, right.
JUSTIN: What do you think about all of that?
TY: All of those doctors have good points. There are a lot of doctors who are very reputable and they have done a lot of research and they disagree on that. That’s okay. I think, based on my research, that it’s a combination of hypoxia at the cellular level (lack of oxygen) which is what Dr. Otto Warburg showed in 1931 in his Nobel Prize. A combination of that with a suppressed immune system. So, the combination of a compromised immune system with hypoxia at the cellular level, will often times result in cancer. Whether that suppressed immune system is a result of root canal teeth or secondary infections, or if that suppressed immune system is an overload of environmental toxins, which I believe is the primary cause of a suppressed immune system. We can debate all of that and that’s okay, but the bottom line is if you couple hypoxia with a suppressed immune system, it will often times result in cancer. The fact of the matter is that we all produce thousands, if not more, cancer cells on a daily basis. Cancer is something that everyone, who is listening to this show, has in their bodies, cancer cells.
Cancer cells are merely cells in which the DNA has been changed. They have been damaged and their respiratory mechanism is different from normal cells. We all have them. But a normally functioning immune system is able to recognize the cancer cells and take care of them and will not be diagnosed with a life-threatening cancer. It’s only when that cancer is not
recognized by the immune systems that the cancer begins to spread or metastasize and become life-threatening.
I guess, in a nutshell, that is my conclusion, based on my research. Cancer can’t live in a body whose immune system is functioning properly. Let’s just put it that way.
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JUSTIN: I’ve heard a lot of people talk about the role of estrogen in cancer, and things like that. A lot of us get xenoestrogens from plastic and chemicals from carpets. You talk a lot about that in your book.
TY: Yes.
JUSTIN: Is estrogen like a driving sort of force?
TY: Good question. Yes, you’re right. We are pelted with xenoestrogen, which is basically just fake estrogens from different chemicals and plastics, which our bodies see as estrogen and uptakes as estrogen. That’s one way.
We also totally stay away from soy because of the phytoestrogens. The genezende and diazepine, which are two of the phytoestrogens in soy. A lot of times they are spoken of being so good for you, but the body actually doesn’t think so. Because of the phytoestrogens the body has an overload of estrogen when you’re eating soy. That’s the reason that Dr. William Wong, who you mentioned earlier, says stay away from soy. Many other doctors I know of say to completely stay away from soy. Also, over 92% in 2011 of soy in the United States was genetically modified. The tests on these genetically modified soy beans, and the corn I spoke about earlier, show that by the third generation at the latest, most of the time by the second generation, will cause sterility in hamsters.
Anyway, we are pelted with xenoestrogens and phytoestrogens, so what happens is that the ratio of testosterone to estrogen our body gets out of whack. A lot time, people think that estrogen is a female hormone and testosterone is a male hormone. That’s not true. I have estrogen and my wife has testosterone. The thing that’s different in males and females is the ratio. So, when the ratios get out of whack, because you’re in taking too much estrogen, phytoestrogen or xenoestrogen, or whatever you want to call it, then we have several estrogen sensitive cancers that can arise. Whether they be ovarian, cervical or breast cancer. Even prostate cancer is estrogen sensitive. There are many cancers that are estrogen sensitive, so these fake estrogens that we are exposed to can have a big role in someone being diagnosed with these different kinds of estrogen sensitive cancers.
JUSTIN: That’s amazing. Would you say that estrogen is kind of on par with sugar, as far as throwing the flame on cancer.
TY: Yes, that’s a good analogy. I kind of think of sugar more as the food for cancer. Cancers live on sugar. They eat sugar and they basically metabolize glucose, which is blood sugar, if they live. But, I think more of estrogen as being the fertilizer for cancer. But, yeah, I’ve used that analogy before, the estrogen is the fertilizer and sugar is the fuel. So, if you want to avoid cancer, minimize sugar and make sure that your estrogen and testosterone balance is in whack.
JUSTIN: That’s funny, it’s not funny, but there was a lady who we knew, it must have been about 6 or 7 years ago (I forget what kind of cancer she had) but the doctors kind of made that correlation with sugar. In between one of her tests, you know she had a test/screening, and during the middle of the time where she was supposed to go and get another test, she ate lots of fruit, candy bars and sugar and stuff like that, I don’t think she knew at the time, but when she was talking to u s about the second test she got, all of her indicators were spiked and off the charts. Is that because of glucose, is that fruits or bread as well?
TY: The lot of it will deal with the glycemic index of the food, and natural sugars and fruit sugars are better than processed sugars. So, there is a myriad of different types of sugars. A good general rule is that everyone should stay away from processed sugar, because it is basically not nutritional. If my family is going to sweeten things, which we do, we will use raw honey or stevia, most of the time. When my wife bakes, you know for a birthday party or whatever, we will use organic brown sugar, which is less harmful than processed white sugar.
You also have to look at processed white flour, which actually has a higher glycemic index than table sugar. There is a pretty good chart out there, and I will see if I can find it so that I can send your listeners to it. You can compare the different glycemic indices of different products. You really need to be aware of that. The story that you recounted about the lady eating lots of fruit, sugars and cakes or whatever, is pretty common, in light of the fact that most oncologists will not advise against it. As a matter of fact, one of the common things with cancer patients is that a lot of them will not die from the cancer, but they will die from the toxicity from radiation and chemotherapy and/or the wasting syndrome, which is called cachexia. So, if a cancer patient is basically wasting away, a 6’2″ guy down to 110 lbs
the doctors will say that they just need to go out and eat whatever they can to put on weight so that they don’t waste away. Those people who then go and start downing sugar products such as ice-cream and cakes are really doing themselves a disservice, as they are fueling that cancer and are not really helping themselves. They don’t know that, because most oncologists won’t tell them that. Many oncologists just don’t think about it. They are not taught that in medical school.
JUSTIN: Yes, it’s not something that is even part of their current paradigm. Right?
TY: The most that a doctor will get in nutrition, going through almost ten years of medical school, residency and internship, and so on, is three hours.
Many doctors get none, It depends on the medical school, but many medical schools don’t even include a course in nutrition. And so, the doctors who come out of medical school, highly drug intensive, and so that’s what they know to treat, diseases, drugs and they don’t understand the relationship between diet and disease.
JUSTIN: It’s pretty amazing that doctors have such little schooling on nutrition. They speak with such authority about nutritional things, when in reality, they are really not qualified to.
TY: You know, it would be the equivalent of somebody coming to me and wanting to get their car worked on, and I would say ‘you know, I really don’t have any schooling for this, but let me tell you that your oil doesn’t really matter and your brand of gasoline doesn’t matter in your engine’. I haven’t gone to school for this, but let me just tell you that it’s ridiculous if you think that the oil matters or the brand of gas matters’. I am not a mechanic and I know very little about cars, but it would be absurd for me to try to give somebody advice on their engine if I don’t have any schooling in that area, wouldn’t it?
JUSTIN: You know, all you have to do is put a white coat on and people would believe you, right?
TY: Yes, put on a white coat, prance around like you know something and everybody believes you. So, that’s kind of what happens with many doctors in nutrition. I must say that I am friends with, and am aware of many, many doctors who are really waking up to the fact that nutrition does matter, and that their health is largely dependent on what they eat. I am good friends with a doctor down in Texas who said that over the last, I guess, 12 to 18 months, he has gained close to 50 lbs. He said when he first read my book he thought I was nuts. He said that the things he read in my book didn’t mesh with what he’d been taught in medical school and he thought I was crazy. He’s a busy doctor and is working 70-80 hours a week, and was just eating whatever he could find, because he’s working so much, and never paid attention to nutrition. He said he read the chapters on nutrition. They were chemically sound, they were scientifically sound and he started implementing some of my dietary recommendations and he dropped 50 lbs. He said he feels better than he did in college and now he doesn’t think I’m quite so crazy.
JUSTIN: That’s amazing. People should really go out and get this book. Speaking of radio shows and things like this, this is my first episode, but you have recently launched, I think it’s on Voice America, is that right?
TY: Yes, Voice America, Cancer Truth Chronicles.
JUSTIN: Okay, it’s interesting that last week I found someone named Chris, I don’t know what his last name is, but he has got that website Chris Beat Cancer.
TY: Yeah, yeah, Chris Work. I’m interviewing him tomorrow.
JUSTIN: Yeah, that is so cool, because I went onto his website and looked at a bunch of his stuff. Did he do a purely natural treatment? ‘
TY: You know Justin, I’m not really sure exactly what he did. I know that he was diagnosed in his mid-20s with a terminal cancer, and I know that he was told that if he didn’t do chemo he would die. He said, no chemo, no radiation, I’m going natural. I know he started doing a lot of organic fruits and vegetables. I think he cut out all meat and I think he started juicing. Other than that, I’m not really sure of the different protocols he went through. I am going to find that out tomorrow. But I know that he went all natural on his diet. And, I’m almost certain that it was his diet change, almost exclusively, that cured him of his cancer. I think that was six years ago.
JUSTIN: Wow, so those of you who don’t know, check out Ty’s radio show on Voice America. I think it’s called Cancer Truth Chronicles. His website is cancertruth.net and I think he has one called survivalherbs.com as well. Definitely make sure to check out his information. Follow him on Facebook too. I follow you Ty, and read this stuff all the time. You post such great stuff on there.
TY: Thanks man.
JUSTIN: Yeah, it’s really awesome.
TY: A lot of the posts there are actually my wife’s. She is always out looking around for interesting graphics. People like graphics. They like pictures with information overlay, so my wife, Charlene is just great. She is out there always searching for stuff to post. That’s half the battle, that Facebook is continually getting good information so that people keep coming back.
JUSTIN: So it helps to have a wife to support you in all this, as imagine how difficult it is for some people who want to make a change, and understand that they have to make a change, but they have no support at home, you know.
TY: Yeah, it’s a blessing, as she is great. She supports everything that I do and, you know, the book that we wrote on cancer was really a team effort, as I couldn’t have done it without her help. When I was writing and researching, she was taking care of our 3 and now 4 kids. It’s’ always a team effort and in everything that I do, she supports and we’re on the same page on diet and nutrition. She cooks really healthy stuff and she’s all into the smoothies and all that. You’re right, it’s great to have a spouse who supports you.
JUSTIN: That’s great. I just wanted to say that we’re not giving medical advice here or anything like that, but I wanted to ask you what you do in terms of, you know how doctors want to get you to get screened. The whole idea of getting tested early, in my mind, is a way to get you into their funnel, but doing colonoscopies and things like that. I had a colonoscopy, I think it was five years ago. They found a polyp, but I am not sure if I would ever have one done again. In terms of prevention, you either have to just go full-on and lead a healthy lifestyle and forget about that stuff. Or, if you’re not going to live a healthy lifestyle, should people (I know you’re not a doctor and can’t give medical advice) but do you get colonoscopies, screenings or go a dermatologist, or anything like that?
TY: I can tell you what I personally do. I don’t. I don’t go to the doctor and I don’t get colonoscopies or anything like that. I personally would never get one. I’m aware of too any instances where they have perforated the colon and caused all kinds of internal problems, even death, with colonoscopies, so I would never do that. What I do is live a healthy lifestyle the best I can. I eat well and I take the supplements and natural herbs that I know fight cancer and other diseases, so that’s what I do. I live more of a preventative lifestyle. If I went out and fell off a roof, looked down at my leg and it was going in two different directions and the bone was broken in two, I would go to the hospital and get worked on by a trauma doctor. I’m not opposed to doctors at all, but for things like cancer, diseases and ordinary every day health, I know what to do on my own. I don’t need to go to a doctor who has no education in health, to tell me what to do. I know way more than he does.
So, as far as day to day health maintenance, I don’t need that. But, like I said, as far as trauma, if somebody drove by and shot me, I am going to go to the Emergency Room and hopefully a trauma surgeon would be able to save my life. I’m not going to run out into the woods and try to find some plantain or aloe vera to put in the wound. Modern medicine has its place, and I am fully aware of that. I am astounded at the miraculous operations that doctors are able to perform now. Some of these guys are just geniuses.
I was watching, on some health channel about this guy, I think he was in Vietnam. He had a 200 lb tumor growing in his lower portion. This amazing surgeon from Chicago, flew over to Vietnam and operated on him, took off the 200 lb tumor and kept the guy alive. This kind of stuff is just amazing, some of the things that they can do. So, I don’t want anybody to think that I’m opposed to doctors. It’s just in my daily regimen, I don’t need them to teach me how to be healthy.
JUSTIN: You’re not going to be able to get rid of that tumor by putting some DMSO on it, are you?
TY: No, and I’m not going to try to self-operate either.
JUSTIIN: I wanted to ask you too, speaking of the medical industry and things like that, you cover, I think in the beginning of your book, you’re trying to, I guess dispel that the medical industry is something that could be trusted wholeheartedly , and so try to blow some holes in that kind of thinking. I recently watched a documentary, I’m sure you’ve seen it and I’m sure you’ll get to it in the book, and you know all about this guy, Dr. Burzynski. And, the absolute nightmare that the government and the FDA have put him through. As far as I understand, the FDA is only supposed to regulate interstate commerce, is that right?
TY: You know, I’m not certain about that. I know that the FDA way oversteps their bounds. And I do touch on Dr. Burzynski. Later on in the book, I don’t really have a section on his protocol per se, because it’s very extensive and is not really what I consider to be a natural treatment. But, it’s very good, it’s a very good treatment in many instances, and Dr. Burzynski has been heavily persecuted by the medical establishment because of his success. I recently interviewed, the documentary was it called Cut Poison and Burn, or was it The Burzynski Story?
JUSTIN: I think it was called The Burzynski Story. I have not seen the Cut Poison and Burn.
TY: That’s another excellent one. Cut Poison and Burn is a documentary that was done about Burzynski as well, but it was focusing on Jim and Donna Navaro, who I recently interviewed. They are the parents of, I can’t think of their son’s’ name, I have forgotten his name, but he was a 4 year old who was diagnosed with a brain tumor. They wanted to take him to Burzynski, but the FDA would not allow him to go to the Burzynski Clinic until he had exhausted the full regimen of chemotherapy and radiation, which, in the long-term, ended up killing him before they could get him to Burzynski. As a matter of fact, on his death certificate, it says that the death was because of toxicity from chemotherapy. Chemotherapy killed him, but anyway that Cut Poison and Burn was a documentary that was done about their story and about Burzynski.
JUSTIN: Wow, I have watched that interview on u-tube I think, and you showed a copy of that didn’t you?
TY: I actually got it posted and am on my website right now trying to figure out where I posted it. It was in a recent newsletter, but when I find it, I will let you know. Yes, Thomas Navaro is the boy’s name and it’s in my main newsletter, so if people want to go to cancertruth .net and go to the main newsletter, go to newsletter archives and go to May, 2012, then I’ve got Thomas’s story there. You are right Justin, I do actually have the death certificate posted on the website there, which shows that death was due to chronic toxicity of chemotherapy.
JUSTIN: Wow, I wanted to ask you real quick too, if someone has just been diagnosed with cancer, there could be a lot of those people listening, a lot of people, I think the conventional mindset is to say ‘you know what, whatever the doctor tells me to do, I’m going to do. I’m going to get the chemo and radiation, let him cut it out and that kind of thing. If all that doesn’t work, then I’ll try natural stuff. Explain a little bit about why you think that that may not be the best approach for people.
TY: Yeah, well you know, personally, if someone in my family was diagnosed, we would run as fast and as far away from the local oncology centers as possible. And here’s why. Because they are always going to push the Cut Poison and Burn protocol. Radiation, surgery and chemotherapy protocol. The studies have shown that that just doesn’t work. There was a 2005 study done in Australia that showed that the success rate of chemotherapy in Australia was 2.1% and 2.3% success in America, when they were looking at a five year survival. To me, that’s not acceptable. When you look at the surveys that are done with oncologists at the Miguel Cancer Center in Canada, and I believe there was also one done at Harvard, that showed that anywhere between 80-90% of oncologists would not do chemotherapy if they were facing a cancer diagnosis. They know that it’s toxic to the system. They know that chemotherapy causes cancer. As a matter of fact, many different types of chemotherapy are listed as class-1 carcinogens. In other words, they are known to cause cancer. The reason is that they suppress the immune system. They kill the immune system. They do kill cancer cells and that’s why folks like your mom are still alive. Chemotherapy did kill the cancer and she was able to survive despite the chemotherapy, because the chemotherapy, while it targeted the cancer cells, it was also destroying her immune system. She is one of the ones that made it, and I am thankful for that. Most folks don’t understand that chemotherapy is not selectively toxic to cancer cells, it also kills your immune system. That’s why I would never do it personally, and my family would never do chemotherapy, because those that survive, survive despite chemotherapy, not because of it. And they survive because their immune system is still strong enough to fight off the chemo and for the chemo not to kill them. To me, there is just too many other better ways to treat cancer, than to treat it with a set of substances like chemotherapy, that is known to cause cancer. Radiation is known to cause cancer. CAT scans are known to cause cancer. There are better ways to do it, in my book.
JUSTIN: Yeah, I think there is also something to be said about, you know, if you go through those treatments first, then the likelihood of a natural treatment, because what a natural treatment is doing is cleansing out your body and boosting your immune system. When you go through the conventional treatment first, you have basically destroyed the immune system. So, the natural treatment just can’t work as well. Right?
TY: Right. And that’s a good point, because a lot of times the natural cancer treatments get the blame, when the conventional cancer treatments are the real culprit. In other words, if somebody goes through eight rounds of chemo and a year of radiation, and then the doctor says, ‘you know what, we have done all we can for you, go home and die, as the chemo is not working anymore, the radiation is not working anymore, so you’ve got two months’. Then they go and try some natural treatment and they die. So, guess who gets the blame? The natural treatment. Oh, you know, those quacks, they did this natural treatment and they killed him. No, they went through a year of chemo and radiation and that killed him. So, that’s the problem. There are a lot of times when the natural treatments get the blame and really the culprit that killed their immune systems and put on their death beds was the conventional treatment.
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Thanks Ty once again for being here. I just have one last question for you that’s been sent in. This one is from Angela from Ohio and she said she’s wondering if you could give her some information on a couple of things. ‘I am currently taking the following herbs for osteoporosis and would like to know if you have any thoughts about them……Nettle Root, Oat sSraw, Comfrey, Linden Leaf Flower and Red Clover. I have also been diagnosed with pigmented basal cell carcinoma, and would like to know what you think might be a good option for this.
TY: Okay, so she is using Nettle Root, Oat Straw, Comfrey, Linden Leaf Flower and Red Clover. I know that Nettle Root might be a good choice for that. I’m not sure about Oat Straw. Are you familiar with that?
JUSTIN: I’ve heard about it. I have never taken it, but I don’t know much about it actually.
TY: Yeah, I know Nettle Root might help. A lot of times, with these different herbs, you want to see if there is any contraindications with taking them all together. A lot of times people will find something that works for a certain ailment and then find something else that works, and will throw them all together. At this point, I don’t know if that’s a good combination or not, because you should look and see if any of them are contraindicating with the others. In other words, do two of them work together in a negative way. So, I’m not real sure about that.
As far as the pigmented basal cell carcinoma is concerned, I’ve had a couple of basal cells. I used to be competitive body builder, and laid in the tanning beds and got way way too much sun. I got burned a lot. The sun is great for you. We lay in the sun every day, if we can, but you don’t want to get charred. I got charred several times, so had some basal cells. I used a Black Salve, called Amazon Black Salve to take care of it. I’ve had it on my leg and face, and that takes care of it. Go to HerbalHealers.com. Just do a google search or a search for Amazon Black Salve and you can purchase it. I think the company that sells it is called Alpha Omega Labs, but that’s what I always tell people if they have a basal cell. They can try that. Of course, that is not a medical recommendation, it’s just what I did personally.
JUSTIN: Right, I think I’ve been onto that website. Is that Greg Caton.
TY: Yes, it is. He is the one who got abducted from Ecuador.
JUSTIN: I heard about that. I think they put him in prison, didn’t they?
TY: They did. As a matter of fact, he had to move Alpha Omega Labs out of Louisiana to Ecuador, because of the FDA. And then, they actually were out of the country and the FDA flew down a hit force and basically kidnapped him from Ecuador and brought him back illegally to the United States, because of the products he was selling.
It’s kind of a joke, it’s absurd when you have people who are selling herbal products that are treating cancer effectively. You have companies like Diamond Foods who are sent letters from the FDA to tell them that they have to stop selling their walnuts, or the cherry growers that had cease and desist letters saying they had better stop, including scientific studies about cherries on their website. And then you have drugs like Vioxx, that has been approved by the FDA, and that killed 70,000 people. Something is wrong in the scenario.
JUSTIN: Yeah, and I have a feeling it’s not going to improve, or will get worse. But, part of me wants to just sort of buy up a bunch of those products, because we don’t know how long his company is going to be around, right?
TY: Yes, and we have done that. We stocked up on some things that we think might not be available in the future. That’s probably a good idea.
JUSTIN: Yes, I think he’s got some sort of iodine and things like that, that are also really good for topical skin issues. Right?
TY: Yeah.
JUSTIN: Wow, well thank you so much Ty for being the first guest on our show. It’s just awesome how you turned out to be our first guest, because cancer is something that hit me pretty heavily back in 1995, and I know you have had your bouts with it too. It’s really amazing and thank you so much. Once again, Ty’s website is cancertruth.net and survivalherbs.com. He has his radio show you will definitely want to check out. It’s called Voice American Networks.
TY: And Justin, thanks for having me on. I’m really honored to be your first guest. You are doing a great job man, and keep it up. I think you’re going to have a great show here.
JUSTIN: Thank you so much Ty, I really really appreciate you being on today.
TY: No problem, have a good day buddy.
JUSTIN: Okay thanks, you too.
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May 23, 2025 • 2h 26min
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She wrote me late Thursday night saying her son is very sick and in the hospital and she wouldn’t be able to do the show.
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As we were testing the audio, his audio died and I just couldn’t hear him. I was sad about that because I was looking forward to a fun conversation.
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May 22, 2025 • 1h 50min
Jonathan Tripodi – How To Release Trapped Emotions, Stress & Trauma In Order To Heal From Disease & Start Living Your Life Again
Jonathan Tripodi is the author of an interesting book called Freedom From Body Memory which is an interesting look at how our bodies somehow store energetic frequencies from the past and how to let go of them in order to heal at the deepest level.
What do you guys think of Body Memory? Do you think that all of our emotions, stress, trauma etc get stored in our tissues and cells?
Sounds kind of strange doesn’t it?
But if you understand that everything is vibration you can start to see the correlations manifest themselves in our own lives as well as the lives of others. Do you ever notices how after an athlete (say a boxer who has gone 12 rounds) will start to weep and cry during the interview right after the fight? All of those pent up emotions and stresses of training for the past year are coming out.
Or how about somebody like Michael Jordan who can shoot free throws with his eyes closed? That’s called muscle memory. Not much unlike the Body Memory principles that Jonothan Tripodi talks about.
Or think about your own life. Have you ever noticed that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach when you get bad news that perhaps somebody close to you has just passed away? Or have you ever eaten while you’re stressed out and you can’t digest very well? Or maybe you’ve almost been pulled over by a police officer after you made an illegal uturn but they didn’t stop you. Your heart starts to pound and beat in your chest doesn’t it?
Where does that come from?
How does a thought affect our physical biology like that and cause our heart to pound and to start sweating?
Because everything is memory Jonathan contends that these stresses actually stay in the body long after the initial problem goes away. Somehow the trauma of an argument witnessed when we were kids or the shock of being injured in an accident, somehow gets lodged in our cells and tissues and can’t be removed.
Think of it just like food. If food can get impacted in the colon and intestines, why is it any different with stress or traumas?
The Body Memory system is almost like an energetic cleanse just like a colonic or enema would be physically.
It’s my contention that in 100 years it’s going to be common knowledge that all disease comes from stress, negative emotions, trauma, not speaking your truth, bottling things up and situations in life that cause these types of reactions.
If you can do a stress cleanse like this Body Memory Program along with eating a diet that supports your health and couple those two things with some kind of exercise and fitness program, you’ll be well on the path to being bullet proof.
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May 21, 2025 • 1h 2min
Dr. Gerald Smith – Can Root Canals, Cavities & Cavitations Be Responsible For 70-90% Of All Diseases?
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JUSTIN: Thank you all so much for joining us today on another edition of extremehealthradio. I hope you’re having an amazing day with whatever you’re doing and thank you for joining us. We have a great show planned for you today with Dr. Gerald Smith who is a biological dentist out of Pennsylvania, I believe.
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We have Dr. Charles Partito, creater of the ejuva cleanse, talking about colon health, how to keep a healthy bowel and detoxification. We have Nina Silver, who is a prolific author and has written extensively on energy medicine, so I strongly suggest you take a listen to that show.
Let me now introduce our guest today. I’m very, very excited to have Dr. Gerald Smith. He is certified by the World Organization for Natural Medicine, to practice natural medicine globally. He is also a certified dental practitioner. His broad base of post-graduate training in dentistry and natural medicine, enabled him to integrate many health care specialities to his patients. He is also a Knight Hospitaller, so we will have to ask him about that. He has lectured at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center and National Academy of General Dentistry and at the Academy of Head, Neck and Facial Pain.
He has given dozens of guest lecture appearances on national and international symposia. He is a member of the International Association of Orthodontists. He is quite a prolific author as well and has written a book called ‘Headaches Aren’t Forever’, newly published on CD Rom, ‘Alternative Treatments Conquering Chronic Pain’, and one that I’m interested in is, ‘Reversing Cancer, A Survivors Guide for Understand the Nature of Cancer’. He is head of the International Center for Nutritional Research and he runs icnr.com.
Wow, thank you so much doctor for taking time out of your day to talk to us today. We really, really appreciate that.
GERALD SMITH: My pleasure.
JUSTIN: Excellent. You are based out of Pennsylvania?
GERALD SMITH: Correct, outside of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, near Trenton, New Jersey.
JUSTIN: Did you start out as a conventional dentist, or did you start out more on the natural side?
GERALD SMITH: Conventional. Basically, I did my regular training in Temple Dental school, graduated in 1969 and then spent two years in the service. What was interesting was that my turning point was getting involved in a study group that had chiropractors, medical doctors, physical therapists, dentists, oral surgeons and orthodontists, and that’s how I was kind of exposed to a whole new horizon of information.
JUSTIN: When you see that there is a cure for things that conventional dentists aren’t seeing, it kinds of opens up the world to you, doesn’t it?
GERALD SMITH: Well, it opens up the world, but it’s also scary that I’m this little speck of sand on the beach, and I flipped the rocks and found many direct combinations or connections to major diseases, and yet the establishment is still blind to these things.
JUSTIN: That’s interesting. So, you’re still practicing dentistry, is that correct?
GERALD SMITH: Correct.
JUSTIN: Okay, so you still see patients and you see patients for many other issues, rather than just problems with their teeth.
GERALD SMITH: Correct, well I have a Doctor of Natural Medicine degree, so that gives me a licence to expand my therapy to a whole new higher area of treatment, because with a dental licence, you’re restricted.
JUSTIN: Right, so you’re treating people with things like, people come to you for all kinds of different things, like cancer and everything under the sun.
GERALD SMITH: Correct, we have some pretty interesting cases. Just to give you an example, we had a patient with stage-4 throat cancer and when he told his oncologist that he was going to go for alternative, the oncologist said ‘it’s a farce’. Anyway, when I examined the patient he had three infected teeth, two of them were root canals and one was a regular tooth, but the roots were infected.
Yet overtly, there was no pain, swelling or other symptomatology. When I tested him using quantam techniques, which is spatial energy medicine, the same pathogens or viruses or bugs that were in the teeth were in the throat cancer area. I extracted the teeth, put ozone in the jaw bone, homeopathics and ionic silver and placed the patient on a raw food diet, raw juices, rife technology and he was seeing a medical doctor for insulin potentiation therapy, and Justin, in three weeks the cancer was totally gone.
JUSTIN: This was stage-4 throat cancer.
GERALD SMITH: Correct.
JUSTIN: That’s unbelievable. So, when you talk to, I’m sure you’re chummy with other conventional doctors. when you talk to these type of people and they ask you about some of the things you’re working on and some of the results you’re getting, what do they say when you tell them about these things?
GERALD SMITH: It kind of blows their circuits. So, for the simple reason that they’re afraid to use the technology, because it’s basically like a witch hunt, that they don’t want alternative methods to be widely publicized. And, because of the fact that hospitals won’t let physicians use the technology.
For example, my dad had congestive heart failure and I kept him alive for 13 years, and he was in an experimental group. The pharmaceutical company that was making the drugs, when I called them I asked what was the life expectancy on your drugs, and they said two years. Well, four years later, my dad was the only one alive out of the experimental group. I said to his cardiologist, don’t you want to know what I had my dad on, and he said ‘no’.
JUSTIN: Really.
GERALD SMITH: Yes, they don’t want to know. Because they can’t use vitamins in the hospital, they will throw them off the step.
JUSTIN: What’s the point even exploring that, it’s not even within the standard of care.
GERALD SMITH: Standard of care, right. That’s how they nail you. They’ll say that your practicing below the standard of care. In actuality is that you’re above the standard of care.
JUSTIN: That standard of care is almost frightening in terms of how people have to stick to that, isn’t it?
GERALD SMITH: Well, it protects the lowest man on the totem pole. Putting it bluntly, the dumbest person on the totem pole.
JUSTIN: If someone had an acute disease, like something wrong with their heart or maybe some kind of cancer, would the first place that you look when they come in, would that be the jaw or would it be something else?
GERALD SMITH: Well, the whole mouth complex. 70-90% of all medical problems have their origin in their mouth.
JUSTIN: 70%?
GERALD SMITH: Correct.
JUSTIN: Oh my gosh. I would imagine that barely anybody knows that.
GERALD SMITH: Well, there is a hand full of people. But I teach a residency program up in Toronto to educate professionals on this dental whole body connection, because once you see it, it’s like anything else, the closer you get to the truth, the more simplistic the solution is.
JUSTIN: We had Dr. Bruce Shelton on, from Arizona, a few days ago and he was saying that there is only about I think a little over 100 truly biological dentists in the United States. Is it really that small?
GERALD SMITH: Correct, but like I said, most health care practitioners are insecure and fearful of the Dental Boards and Medical Boards. I mean, I just beat the dental board after a three year battle. They’re just brain dead. They have no clue what’s going on, and you know, if they want to make examples of health care practitioners to send a shot across the bow to keep the fear level off.
JUSTIN: Yes, that makes sense. A lot of people have been talking about and are interested in, root canals. Can you tell our listeners why root canals are so darn taxing on the body and so dangerous?
GERALD SMITH: Well, you have to understand that we are the only profession that embalms an organ and keeps it in the body. You are talking about a dead organ. When the nerve dies, you get breakdown products of protein, some of which are thioethers, which are related to mustard gas. Plus the fact, when you have a tooth that dies, there is a reason for it. It could have been trauma, but more than likely there was some infection within the tooth that got to the nerve that caused it to become necrotic or dead. Those bacteria live in little dental tubules.
To give you an example Justin, a molar tooth has approximately three miles of dental tubals. They are 4 microns in diameter, which is miniscule and these bacteria live in there and they pump out their poisons. These poisons literally get into the lymphatic system and get carried away to the thyroid, the thymus, the heart and the rest of the body.
JUSTIN: Is it true that each tooth corresponds to a different in the body. Is there any truth to that?
GERALD SMITH: Yes, biologically the teeth develop from the same cells as the autonomic nervous system, so, to give you an example, your front teeth, the canines, develop from an neural tube when the fetus is growing, which gives rise to the same sympathetic nervous system. Your posterior teeth, your bicuspids back to your wisdom teeth, develop from neural crest cells which is your parasympathetic. In the 50’s, there was an East German physician who linked the different teeth to different organs.
JUSTIN: That is so amazing. So, if someone out there is looking to get a root canal, what would you suggest they do?
GERALD SMITH: Well, under certain circumstances, I would do a root canal. I mean, if there was no large infection and the pulp head recently died. We would use ozone in the canals, we would test all the material in the canals so that they’re bio compatible, and here you are caught between a rock and a hard place. If you lose posterior support, you lose stability to the craniosacral system.
There are ways of kind of cleaning the area. I have two root canals in my own head, and I use the rife technology, once a week prophylactically, just to keep any infections or problems down to the bare minimum.
JUSTIN: On the root canals, I have one now, and I’m looking to do something with it, in terms of fixing it, because I had mine done before I knew better, down in Mexico. God only knows the kind of equipment they were using down there. Some people say that you should pull the tooth. Is that something you think should be done?
GERALD SMITH: I’m very conservative and I would strongly recommend having your tooth tested. There are any number of ways you could do it. For example, tomography was used. Tomography delineates temperature changes and if a hot spot shows up red in the area where the root canal is, then you know that there’s inflammation going on there. You can also use VOL technology or indigo system or other aventura technology. There are so many different electronic diagnostic systems that could be used. Then, using a muscle testing technique called direct resonance testing, where you have vials of specific frequencies of packaging, and you can literally delineate what packagings are present in the area of that root canal.
JUSTIN: Okay. So, how does removing a tooth for a root canal effect the proprioception of the jaw and the structural balance? How does it start effecting, if you remove a tooth, the overall balance of your jaw, your shoulders, your hips and your knees and all that kind of stuff.
GERALD SMITH: Well, #1 you have the proprioceptors, or take it out of the socket with the extractions, and #2 you are losing the physical contact to the opposing tooth and that effects cranial bone balance.
JUSTIN: Once your jaw is out of balance, is it sort of like the flanky deal, where it starts effecting the whole rest of your body. Like the whole rest of your body has to compensate. Is that correct?
GERALD SMITH: Correct, you basically have 28 bones that make up the human skull. They are joined together, kind of like in areas that I refer to as little zippers. They’re sutures. They’re expansion and contraction joints. When the forces become imbalanced, the sutures distort in their balance, which effects the dual membrane system within the cranium and the dual membrane system passes through the base of the skull and passes to the upper three cervical vertebrae and then it goes all the way down to your sacrum. So, there’s your slinky.
JUSTIN: You know, I just shudder. I talk to people all the time and they tell me, oh you know, I have to get a root canal and they talk about it like it’s no big deal. Some people know that I know really well, knowing what I do and ask my opinion, but some people don’t know what I do and they just say these things. Do you just shudder when people tell you these kinds of things and they act as if it’s not really a big deal?
GERALD SMITH: Absolutely, it’s mind-boggling how the establishment has sensitized the population to accept this information. Back in the 1930’s, Weston Price who had impeccable credentials as a researcher for the American Dental Association, and they took infected teeth out of patients, put them under the skin of healthy rabbits and the rabbits came down with exactly the same disease that the patient had.
JUSTIN: Wow, you know I’ve heard about that. I think there’s something I heard recently about some sort of toxin that the bacteria produced called proprionic acid, and when a tooth is extracted from someone who had autism, there were parts of that tooth that were injected into a rat, I think, and they started exuding autistic behaviors. It’s amazing that that kind of research is going on and nobody knows about it.
GERALD SMITH: Sure, because it smacks it right in the face of what the establishment is putting out is that vaccines are safe, chemicals are safe and fluoride is safe. The bottom line is that the average child today being born has an average of 287 chemicals in his blood at birth.
This was well documented by the Environmental Working Group. They spent $50,000 on each of ten children, and they tested their blood, like taking it out of the placenta at birth. It’s mind-boggling to think that you have this human fetus developing in such poor chemicals for nine months, they get out and then they want to inject them with the hepatitis-B in the hospital when they are like an hour old.
JUSTIN: When you start realizing all of this stuff, it just makes so much sense doesn’t it, why people are getting sick, why there’s autism, why there’s cancer. A friend of mine, who I went to high school with, who as stage-3 colon cancer. You don’t really know what’s going on. It seems as if these types of things are coming up out of the blue, but when you start understanding, like you were just saying, how we can’t even live the first few days without being exposed to hundreds of toxins.
GERALD SMITH: That’s one of the reasons why I wrote a book called ‘Reversing Cancer’, because my wife went through
stage-3 ovarian cancer. I saw the intimidation techniques that the establishment uses to coerce people into chemo and radiation and all the invasive techniques. I swear, I spent three days in the hospital after my wife had surgery. I was so disoriented from not being able to sleep with code-4 messages in the middle of the night. I could have been selling flowers at the airport. But the key here is that you have a multitude of factors that are placed upon the individual on a daily basis. You have the radiation coming over from Fukushima.
That’s over a year ago, but every day we’re getting inundated with radiation. And they’re not talking about it on the 11 o’clock news, because they don’t want the people to be fearful. But there’s nothing they can do about it, but the establishment doesn’t realize that with the simple intake of iodine and a special nanozeolite product you can negate the radiation effects.
JUSTIN: That’s amazing. We have to take a quick break, but when we come back I want to ask you a lot more about the dental connection to diseases and cancer and things like that. We’ll be right back with Dr. Gerald Smith, who is the head of icnr.com. He’s also the creator of, I believe it’s dentalwholebodyconnection.com. We have all of these links on our show page here, and we’ll be right back with Dr. Gerald Smith.
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JUSTIN: Okay, we’re with Dr. Gerald Smith, the founder of ICNR in Pennsylvania. Dr. Smith, I wanted to ask you too about staying along the lines of tooth connection, we’re trying to educate people in terms of the connection between our teeth health and disease and overall health. With the root canals and the removal of wisdom teeth, are these things that, let’s start with the removal of wisdom teeth. Theoretically, this shouldn’t even be happening, as we should have enough space in our jaw for our wisdom teeth, right?
GERALD SMITH: Well, one of the problems that arises is that if you go back to Weston Price’s and Francis Pottenger’s research from back in the 1930’s, they discovered within one generation of eating processed foods, like white bread, white sugar and that type of thing, pasteurized milk and so forth, that the next generation, their jaw bones became smaller because they didn’t have the mineral content to enhance their development. So, the key is that you’re getting these problems that are cropping up, and it’s a billion dollar industry, called the shaking wisdom teeth.
So you know, you have a golden goose here. If you look at the literature, a high percentage of these teeth if left alone, will erupt. Either they start extracting or as I like to call it amputating them at age 16 or 17, when the jaw bone is still developing. So, the key here is that when they extract the tooth, they’re not getting primary closure to the socket and the bacteria are migrating from the mouth into the jaw bone and living there for the rest of your life. In fact, my mentor and teacher Dietrich Klinghardt who is a M.D. and ph.D basically estimates that 90% of all wisdom tooth extraction sites are infected.
JUSTIN: 90%. That would make sense. You just can’t, using conventional methods, get rid of bacteria. Bacteria is everywhere.
GERALD SMITH: The key is, when I do an extraction, I don’t do 3rd molars, but if I do a regular tooth, basically you meticulously have to scrape out the socket, and then re-ozonate it using a medical machine that produces ozone, and that kills all kinds of pathogens. And then, irrigating it with ionic silver, and then homeopathics and then putting in an absorbable sponge called Gelsume and then suturing it up. Post-operatively, patients have minimal to no pain after the surgery. The pain was coming from the bacteria that would migrate into the canal and the toxins they produce stimulates the pain receptors. The nerve endings.
So, the key is you can reduce dramatically the infection of that area.
JUSTIN: That is possible, but not with conventional doctors.
GERALD SMITH: Correct. I can give you two quick examples. We had a patient in from Seoul, Korea who had 10 years of congestive heart failure, and she went to all the top cardiologists and nobody could get to the core of an analogy of what was going on. When she flew into Texas, she had a strep infection, and her wisdom teeth were taken out ten years ago. Once we got rid of the strep infection, with nutrients and frequencies, the congestive heart failure completely disappeared.
Another quick example was that a patient with emphysema and was on steroids for a year, and I tracked it down to a strep infection in the jaw bone where a bicuspid tooth was taken out 15 years ago. We cleaned out the jaw bone infection and the emphysema totally disappeared.
JUSTIN: Wow, that is just so crazy that that could be the case. It shows you that the body is truly and amazing organ, it’s just not a machine, calories in and calories out, it’s really interlocked and interlinked everywhere. Before I knew any of this information, I had four wisdom teeth taken out, I think around 2000, and I had a root canal. I would imagine that many people are in my boat.
They might have had a root canal, or maybe two or more, and have other tooth issues, like extractions. Now, with the four wisdom teeth that were taken out, it’s pretty safe to say, I should say, that there are four cavitations there, right?
GERALD SMITH: A very good chance.
JUSTIN: And, a cavitation is what?
GERALD SMITH: Basically an infection in the jaw bone.
JUSTIN: Okay, it produces no symptoms or anything, right?
GERALD SMITH: Correct, there is no swelling and no pain. There is pus. That’s the problem, it’s incidious, a time bomb that sitting there. My belief system is that everything is fine, it’s like the guy who jumps off the Empire State Building, 12 stories down and he said ‘so far, so good’. The key here is that under normal circumstances when you’re relatively young and healthy, your body can handle that. But it takes one incident, a car accident, emotional trauma, a flu episode, or a vaccination or whatever, that hits the scale.
JUSTIN: So it sounds as if your immune system is sort of like a teeter totter and when something happens that traumatic to you, these things, like a cavitation or a wisdom tooth extraction, cavitations and root canals, these things just sort of sit on top of your immune system, like a sumo wrestler and it weighs down and bogs down your immune system. When you’re 20 years old, you have a strong immune system and don’t feel it, but later on in life when other things start happening, the immune system just can’t work. Is that kind of how you’re looking at this?
GERALD SMITH: Yes, absolutely.
JUSTIN: Interesting, wow. I know there are websites and places for people to find biological dentists and I know people are going to be listening and they’re going to be thinking, ‘my doctor wants me to get a root canal, where do I find a biological dentist’. Do you have a resource for that on your website?
GERALD SMITH: We do, and there are a few organizations that they could check out. One is The Holistic Dental Assocation and another group is the International Academy of Biological Dentists. There’s also IAOMT, Internationall Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology. You also have the DAMS Defense Against Mercury Syndrome. These are good groups that you’re going to get information from that will help you make a more informed consent.
JUSTIN: If I were to get something like this done, theoretically would I feel anything, because I know that some people feel a radical shift in their body, sometimes for the better, after they go through sort of a healing crisis. If someone were to get two or three things done at one sitting, what would they feel afterwards?
GERALD SMITH: I can give you a few examples. We had one woman who had pain down the left side of her body and it was exacerbated when she would play the piano. Her conventional dentist was treating an area on her lower left second molar that was abscessed and he was telling her that food was just trapping in under the bridge and you have a peridontal or gum problem. Well, when I reviewed the radiographs or x-rays, she had a full blown infection in the jaw bone. When I extracted the tooth and cleaned out the area with the ozone homeopathic ionic silver, the pain totally disappeared on the left side of her body.
JUSTIN: Really.
GERALD SMITH: A lot of patients have like energy changes. One patient had a lot of mercury fillings in his mouth and after the last restoration was taken out and replaced with biocompatible material, he couldn’t believe the difference in his energy level. He had been suffering since his teenage years and he is now in his 40s.
JUSTIN: Biocompatible material are substances like zirconium and things like that, right?
GERALD SMITH: Correct. There are also resin materials, but really every one is a chemical and energetic fingerprint and you have to test to see compatibility. So, this is an area that unfortunately is not being performed on a routine basis by many dentists.
JUSTIN: Yes, many dentists are not doing blood samples and checking for biological compatibility, are they?
GERALD SMITH: Correct.
JUSTIN: That makes sense. It’s too involved for the general practice, I would imagine.
GERALD SMITH: Well, if you use cranial rhythm, which basically to me, is the best lie detector in the world, because you have an aura around every patient, and if you take a substance that has an energy pattern and you place it into that aura, if it’s compatible with that patient, the cranial rhythm remains balanced. It’s inexpensive, it’s accurate and it’s quick.
JUSTIN: What is the cranial rhythm?
GERALD SMITH: The human brain functions in an expansion/contraction mode, to help pump the cerebral spinal fluid around the brain and the tissues. So, even if you hold your breath, the brain will still open and close kind of like an umbrella. That is an energetic expansion/contraction function. When you take a substance and put into the aura, which is an extension of autonomic nervous system, the computer of the body picks up immediately whether it’s good for the individual or meant for the individual. And it refracts in the motion of the skull.
JUSTIN: You can do a test to see the cranial rhythm?
GERALD SMITH: You can feel it with your hands.
JUSTIN: Interesting. This whole idea about the biofields, I know Dr. Marshall out of Austin, we’re going to have him on this weekend, he talks a lot about the biofield, and it sounds like you are into the same types of things.
I want to ask you a bit about, you know getting into this type of subject matter, about the Rife machine. I think you sell those, if I’m correct.
GERALD SMITH: Correct. The technology was developed in the 1930’s and it was based on Rife’s fabrication of a special microscope, the universal microscope that stained the pathogens with light, and that’s how he will determine the mortal oscillatory frequency of the different pathogens.
JUSTIN: The mortal oscillatory frequency, okay.
GERALD SMITH: Oscillatory, in other words every virus, bacteria, fungi vibrates every signature frequency.
JUSTIN: Okay.
GERALD SMITH: And when you bombard it with a similar frequency, it explodes it and it doesn’t damage the surronding tissue.
JUSTIN: So, that would be similar to like a singer and a wine glass, and shattering the wine glass? Is that kind of the same idea?
GERALD SMITH: Correct.
JUSTIN: So, all of these viruses, is there a list somewhere where you could find out what viruses resonate at which frequencies.
GERALD SMITH: Absolutely. If you go on the internet and do a search for Rife Frequencies, you will find sites that provide the exact frequencies for each pathogen.
JUSTIN: I’m sure people who are listening have probably never heard of it. I’ve known about it for quite a few years, but it’s fascinating and it blows my mind, how things like this can work. My wife and I, a few years back, went to a doctor who had a Rife machine, I believe it was a Rife machine. It might have been like a biofeedback machine or something, but he had these to little circular areas in the device. He was talking about how he can actually change the results and heal people over long distances of areas. He was doing experiments with it and getting extraordinary results with people who weren’t even near him.
GERALD SMITH: Yes, that’s called subspace.
JUSTIN: Subspace? How does that work.
GERALD SMITH: Basically, it locks onto your DNA code. It works, because we have a similar instrumentation. It’s awesome technology. It’s Star Wars. I mean, think about it. You have astronauts up in a capsule. You think that they are drawing blood up in space and giving them poly-pharmacy to cure them?
JUSTIN: I would guess, no.
GERALD SMITH: I don’t think so. Because one good barf up in the capsule is going to turn off his comrads.
JUSTIN: Right. I’ve heard over the years that there are a lot of issues as far as the government is concerned. Is that true with the Rife technology? I’ve heard that you can’t even search for that without being logged by google, or whatever.
GERALD SMITH: Probably.
JUSTIN: Oh, gosh.
GERALD SMITH: Well, think about it. Back in 1934, Rife, under the auspices of, which university was it, it was
either Stanford or UCLA, I think it was UCLA. They were monitoring the project. They had 16 terminally cancer patients, and in 130 days they cured every one of them of cancer with the frequencies.
JUSTIN: That has to be suppressed, right?
GERALD SMITH: Absolutely. That’s when it all hit the fans, because within the next year, 11 research centers around the country who were validating Rife’s technology, were burned down. Now, come on, that’s not an accident.
JUSTIN: That is absolutely amazing. The average person out there has never heard of a Rife machine.
GERALD SMITH: Well, the name’s been exponged and it’s not in the books. Physicians are never exposed to this. And when it is brought up, they make light of it and you know, shock people with childish behavior, trying to downplay the significance of this technology.
JUSTIN: It makes sense. If you’re trying to hold on to your power, you want to make sure you suppress these types of things. In Rife machines, I’ve heard that you can actually homeopathically imprint water, put something into your water and you can drink that every day to cure diseases and things like that. Is that kind of how some people have Rife machines in their home. Is that how they use them?
GERALD SMITH: Well, it depends on how sophisticated is the unit they have. Some units, like with our Indigo system, we can imprint water or imprint homeopathic and solve problems. I’ll give you an example. We had a patient in from Chicago who had had internal trembling for a year and it was coming from Levaquin, which is a very nasty antibiotic. So, I had him bring in a Levaquin tablet. I dissolved it and imprinted it and made a homeopathic remedy from the drug. In 24 hours, the internal trembling had totally gone.
JUSTIN: That’s incredible. You do homeopathy, energy medicine and dentistry.
GERALD SMITH: Whatever it takes. I’m one of these people, ‘a why person’. I’ve been flipping rocks for well over 35 years. I’ve been in practice for over 42 years. The key is that the answers are out there, Justin. As Edward do Bono, the great psychologist said, you have to dig lateral holes to interconnect the dots. You can’t keep digging the hole deeper and looking for the magic surgical procedure, the magic chiropractic adjustment, the magic drug or vitamin. It doesn’t exist. You have to define the underlying core issue and then address it with the appropriate therapy.
JUSTIN: Yes, that makes so much more sense than typical conventional doctors and their aggressive treatments.
When we come back, I want to ask you some more questions about the Rife machine, as well as gum disease and things like that. What things people can use to brush with and some of that self-care stuff, that is practical information. We’re with Dr. Gerald Smith from icnr.com and dentalwholebodyconnection.com and we’ll be right back in just one moment.
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Thank you for listening to this interview. I wanted to ask you, Dr. Smith about the Rife technology. You mentioned the Indigo. Is that similar to the Gb4000 or is it a separate machine altogether?
GERALD SMITH: Yes, it’s a separate machine. The Gb4000 is a regular stand alone Rife and it has 871 preprogrammed therapies in there, plus it has the expandability. You can make custom programs and if a new frequency is discovered you can always add that in, so it’s very versatile. The Indigo treats acupuncture points, meridians, chakras, which is Haemar’s work from Germany on the mental emotional state. It does hormone balance, the homotoxicology structurely, adjusts the spine electronically, a Rife on steroids.
JUSTIN: I was just thinking that. So this is more something a practitioner would get.
GERALD SMITH: Yes.
JUSTIN: The Gb4000 is something more personal, and you sell that. Is that right?
GERALD SMITH: Correct.
JUSTIN: Okay. I wanted to ask you. What is the general price range of the Gb4000, if you’re able to say that?
GERALD SMITH: It’s around $2400, which I think is reasonable, considering what it does. Basically, as the FDA takes good quality nutrients off the market, the only thing you’re going to be left with is vibrational medicines to treat your problems.
JUSTIN: Now, if someone were to buy the Gb4000 from you, would they get a set of instructions and maybe a manual?
GERALD SMITH: Yes, it comes with a manual, but it’s actually a no-brainer. You basically push like auto channel and then you punch in the numbers for the program and then you push run. It’s pretty much that simple.
JUSTIN: Wow, would someone use the Gb4000 for an acute illness, or would they use it on a daily basis?
GERALD SMITH: Well, theres 871 programs in there, so it covers arthritis, migraines, fatigue, hormonal imbalances, dental infection, detox and a whole list of medical maladies. It’s very effective.
JUSTIN: Interesting. One more question on this, as I’m just fascinated by this machine. If someone were to buy it and were to treat themselves with it, and say they wanted to do it on a daily basis.
GERALD SMITH: It would be too much to do it on a daily basis, because when you kill the pathogen, the body has to be able to detox the poisons that are spewed out throughout the system, so the advice is never to do it on a daily basis.
JUSTIN: Yes, that makes sense. If they were to treat themselves, however frequently they were, would they sit down maybe in a chair and put their feet on something or their hands in something, how does that work?
GERALD SMITH: Well, if you want to treat the whole body, the unit comes with pads and hand cylinders and literally it will really treat the whole body simultaneously.
JUSTIN: That is so cool. So, for how long, I guess it depends.
GERALD SMITH: Each program has different numbers of frequencies. For example, one program may only last for five minutes, where another program maybe a half hour.
JUSTIN: I see. So, you could sit and watch TV or something?
GERALD SMITH: That’s what I do. I have mine on my couch upstairs and I’ll watch TV or read a book, or whatever. To me, it’s an inexpensive price to pay for health.
JUSTIN: I agree, especially like you were saying with some of the supplements they’re taking away now, and God onlyh knows what direction that’s going to be headed in. I think it’s important for people to take some proactive steps towards their health, and I think that’s a great thing to do.
I wanted to ask you, I know we have a limited amount of time, but what do you make of all this gum disease and receding gums and issues with people’s gums these days.
GERALD SMITH: Well, it’s a combination of things. The American Dental Association admits that mercury fillings are a source of periodontal disease, because the mercury leaks out 24/7 and it causes a breakdown in the tissue. Nutritionally, there’s a lot of problems, and not getting the right nutrients the body becomes acidic and it starts to draw minerals out of the bone, and the bone around the teeth is cancelous or spongey and that’s going to be one of the first areas where you get demineralization.
JUSTIN: Interesting, so when people get receding gums, the first thing they need to look at is, most likely, their diet.
GERALD SMITH: Absolutely, I personally think raw is where it’s at and civilization is the longest running expirament and nowhere in the history of civilization has there been a tribe that was strictly vegetarian. That’s not to say that you shouldn’t eat that way, but I’m just giving you facts. I honestly believe that individuals do need a certain amount of animal protein to maintain the integrity of their immune systems, and bones and so forth.
JUSTIN: I read recently that there is a correlation between the amount of phosphorus that people eat and their cavities. I believe that if their phosphorus went above, I forget what the level was, then it would almost immediately trigger cavities. Have you heard that?
GERALD SMITH: Yes, if you get too acidic then you enhance the growth of pathogenic bacteria, but Justin, a real sleeper is hypothyroidism, and back in the 1920’s Eugene Herzog who was an M.D researcher from Belgium, connected tooth decay with underactive thyroid.
JUSTIN: Really.
GERALD SMITH: Sure, just think about it. You have chlorine in the water, fluoride in toothpaste and water, bromine to bleach the flour roducts. You have hydrogenated fats, heavy metals in the atmosphere when the burn coal for power plants, and the bottom line that all of these items that I mention, suppress thyroid activity.
JUSTIN: It’s so crazy. I wanted to ask you about the thyroid and the liver. Most people think your most important organs are maybe your heart and your brain. I’ve heard a lot of health people talk about your liver being the most important organ, but the thyroid is the master controller of your entire endocrine system. Is that correct? Your hormones and all of that?
GERALD SMITH: Well, the pituitary gland kind of monitors the biofeedback of the hormonens going through the body, but I have to say that the thyroid is probably next in line to the pituitary and it governs the metabolism of all the cells in our body. It also governs the function of the heart and your mind. I had a woman who was hearing voices in her head and it turned out to be mercury in her thyroid, because she worked at a facility that was like a mile away from a power plant. In ten days of detoxing the mercury out of her thryoid, the voices stopped in her head.
The thyroid deals with depression, anxiety, panic attacks, digestion problems, hair problems, insomnia, fertility, tooth decay, and skin acne is related to an underactive thyroid. Allergies are related to an underactive thyroid. So you can see how key the thyroid is in body metabolism.
JUSTIN: Not to mention weight gain and those types of obvious issues.
GERALD SMITH: Right, and balance of the other hormones. So, it’s extremely important.
JUSTIN: Wow, so alright, the thyroid, I know a lot of people talk about iodine and things like that. So, what types of things are good for maintaining good thyroid health?
GERALD SMITH: Well, it is a very nutritional organ and certain things like manganese is important. Selenium is important, even testosterone levels amongst women. It’s important to convert the T4 to T3, B-vitamins and selenium are extremely important.
So, what I’m finding is very frightening. The vaccines, in a high percent of cases, are being trapped in the thyroid, and I’ve noticed specifically tetanus is being trapped in the left lobe of the thyroid. So, you have childhood vaccines, you have heavy metals coming from the mouth and the environment. You have pesticides, you have other chemicals, dioxin and so forth, and fluoride from toothpaste and water. They get trapped in the thyroid, causing an underactive gland.
The thing is you can throw iodine at it, you can throw thyroid hormones at it, but what I’ve discovered is that you have to cleanse these toxic substances out of the organ in order for it to function at it’s maximum potential.
JUSTIN: Right, because it makes no sense to you know throw nutrients at it when it can’t even operate correctly, right?
GERALD SMITH: Exactly, so the key in the diagnosis is to deliniate or define what’s in the thyroid that’s causing your problem.
JUSTIN: Okay, would the Gb4000 help with your thyroid? I’m sure there’s frequencies for that.
GERALD SMITH: Definitely, pathogens, viruses or whatever, you can definitely do that with frequencies.
JUSTIN: So, what kind of iodine would you recommend?
GERALD SMITH: I recommend Magnascent Iodine. It’s biologically much more active and you can take it orally. You can put it into like an ounce of water.
JUSTIN: Do you sell that, or is there a place online where people can get that?
GERALD SMITH: Yes, we sell it from our icnr. The key is, you need this to counteract the radiation that’s coming over from Fukushima, the radioactive iodine 131.
JUSTIN: It’s almost like a daily tonic that people need, right?
GERALD SMITH: Just think about it, Japan has the lowest cancer rate of any country in the world. They also have the highest consumption of iodine. You’re talking about 14 mg per day. In the United States, the RVA for iodine is just enough to prevent goiter. If you want to read an interesting book, it’s called Breast Cancer and Iodine by David Derry and he showed that the iodine turns on apoptosis, which is the self-destructive mechanism of cancer cells. When you don’t have enough iodine in your system, the cancer cells just run rampant.
JUSTIN: That’s fascinating. That’s one question I wanted to ask you before we leave. What other books would you recommend? I know you’ve got three books, I think more, and we have links to those. What other books, that you haven’t written, would you recommend people read in terms of the types of things that you’re into?
GERALD SMITH: Well, a good friend of mine, Mark Starr, wrote a fantastic book called ‘Hypothyroidism Type 2’ and he did the research and connected the dots, and it links all of these different symptoms that were discovered back in the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s, and it will blow you away, once you see the connection.
JUSTIN: That’s so fascinating. I have so many questions, I could talk with you for hours. Before we go, I wanted to ask you this. I stopped using toothpaste years ago, but I brush my teeth now with a combination of baking soda, sea salt and a little drop of 3% hydrogen peroxide and water. Is that a good solution?
GERALD SMITH: Yes, that’s a good combination. There’s a lot of different things you can do. I got so disgusted with the toothpaste they have on the market that I developed my own formula called Aqua Essence and it’s free of
sodium lauryl sulphate, antifreeze, fluoride or antibiotics. You can read the ingredients, and we have our own designated website called aquaessencetoothpaste.com and the feedback has been phenomenal. It’s 100% natural and it really does what it says it does. It helps bleeding gums and your mouth feels fresh.
From another standpoint, if you have a waterpick device, you can just add some of the magnascent iodine, like 10 drops before you go to bed in the water reservoir and flush your mouth out with it. The next morning, your mouth is going to feel squeaky clean.
JUSTIN: It’s so interesting. When I first started learning the connection between your teeth and your health, for so many years I didn’t take care of my teeth, and it was just because it was a hassle and all that kind of stuff. But when I started realizing the connection, now I treat my teeth like gold. I don’t want anything to happen to them, so I brush with the baking soda and all of that.
I think that people need to start understanding the connection between their teeth and their health, with things like cancer and all this other kinds of stuff.
GERALD SMITH: Basically, I say if the teeth were all on the top of the head and hair was in your mouth, most people would be bald.
JUSTIN: That’s a good way to look at it. You mentioned earlier, I know we have to take off here in a couple of minutes, but you mentioned earlier about the fluoride in the water, and we could spend an hour just on that. I just want to give people some simple solutions. What kind of water filter would you recommend? Do you sell any and if not, which ones do you recommend?
GERALD SMITH: I don’t sell any filters, but I have a whole house water filtration system. It’s the M750 and they basically have a separate tank that is specifically devoted to pulling fluoride out of the water. So, my whole house is fluoride free.
The other type pulls out dioxins and pesticides and drugs and things. It’s really frightening, the average public water supply has about 66 drugs in the homeopathic form. They’re on the internet and we have a link. If you go on icnr.com and the site index. I don’t get any commissions from it, so I don’t care. The key is, if you scroll down to water purification systems at the end of the index, you will see. It’s reasonable, as for a family of let’s say 3 people, the time should last anywhere from 5-7 years.
JUSTIN: 5-7 years for about 3 people. That’s pretty cost effective.
GERALD SMITH: Absolutely.
JUSTIN: You know, it’s these types of things that we need to start doing, that will improve our health dramatically, but people don’t take any extra effort. It doesn’t take my any extra effort to brush with baking soda, salt and hydrogen peroxide, or use Dr. Smith’s toothpaste. It takes no extra effort, but just by doing these little things every day makes a huge difference in our health.
GERALD SMITH: Yes, life is very simple when you come down to the basics, and that’s what I stress when I lecture and when I treat. The closer you get to the truth, the more simplistic the solution is.
JUSTIN: Yes, that makes sense. We’re going to wrap up there, but one last question for you. I wanted to ask you what kinds of things are you working on? Are you working on any new books and what direction are you headed on with your work?
GERALD SMITH: It’s interesting you should mention that. One of the things that we’re doing is working with homeopathics. We’re finding that that could be extremely powerful, even with cancer.
I believe that using homeopathic forms of certain minerals can prevent the uptake of glucose into the cancer cells, and actually starve them to death. So, that’s the direction we’re working on now.
JUSTIN: Wow, and that’s based off all the research you have done with the book you wrote on cancer and everything like that?
GERALD SMITH: Correct.
JUSTIN: Fascinating. Doctor, would you mind staying after I close out the show?
GERALD SMITH: No problem.
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May 20, 2025 • 1h 12min
Timothy Hickey – Friends Of Water: Amazing Low Cost Water Filtration Systems For Your Home
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Nothing can be further from the truth.
People that say such things don’t understand the complexities of water. Water is a noble element and is highly conductive and is able to hold information. That’s why when water is nicely structured in a 6 sided hexagon shape we say that it’s in “formation”.
Also water is easily impressionable and can carry with it many impurities like homeopathic residues from chemotherapy and prescription drugs.
Do you think the cancer industry is concerned with the fact that chemotherapy patients are urinating and defecating these toxic chemicals into our municipal water system?
I don’t think so.
Other issues in our water are chlorine (linked to cancer), chloramine (when chlorine gets combined with ammonia), fluoride, lead, aluminum, calcium (known to cause calcification and all disease as a result of nano bacteria contained within it) and that’s only naming a few chemicals.
The water is run through lead or copper pipes, pressurized and has a lot of problems with it.
Personally I think that after you filter the water with one of the many amazing water filters from Friendsofwater.com you should perform some alchemy on it. First I’d recommend vortexing it or spinning it in something like a Vitalizer Plus so that it gets structured.
When water is structured it looks like a honeycomb and the molecules are actually smaller. So the water is “wetter”. This means it can penetrate the cells, deliver nutrients (like vitamins and minerals) and then actually cleanse the cells themselves.
Have you ever drank a stomach full of water and urinated it right out? It’s most likely because it is not structured so it’s not getting directly to your cells.
When you structure it in a Vitalizer, you could add in some MSM powder or some fresh squeezed lemon to add some life, enzymes, minerals and alkalinity to it. Lemon is great for hydration.
Water is able to hold information in it and is highly complex on so many levels. I don’t even think the smartest scientists in the world even have a clue as to just how complex this substance is.
So don’t just go around drinking tap water. Or as I like to call it “tap liquid”. In about 20 minutes water actually becomes your blood. What are you making your blood out of?
The first step is to filter your water with some filters from Friendsofwater.com (use code: extremehealth for more of a discount). We’re so glad to finally hook up with Timothy Hickey and his company to offer what we think are some of the best water filters on the market today.
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Here’s a few more weight optimization tips for your file …
(1) Whales or giant sea turtles kept in captivity don’t grow as large as they do in the ocean.
Deep diving into high pressure is what activates weight gain.
A similar effect occurs when a baby is expelled from a highly pressurized womb into the less pressurized environment to enter the world with the typical puffy-cheeked, balloon-like “popcorn” baby face.
Leslie Sabbagh (“Keeping the Beat,” Popular Mechanics, April 2005) wrote …
“Take away gravity and the human machine hardly knows how to behave. The gut rebels, sending food back up the esophagus; blood and other fluids shift upward too, giving astronauts puffy faces; and the volume of blood swells in the eyes’ tiny vessels, shortening focal length and decreasing near vision acuity.”
“Sending food back up the esophagus” – think GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease).
“Decreasing near vision acuity” – think myopia (near-sightedness) and presbyopia (“old eyes”).
(2) Adano Ley (Swami Nitty-Gritty) said …
“There’s no such thing as weight loss or weight gain. It’s all constriction and dilation.”
Scientists know a single fat cell can expand 1,000 times, but what really is responsible for the expansion?
(3) My proudest moment at the gym was when someone asked, “Are you on steroids?”
Adano renamed me “Schwarzenberger.”
I combined semi-conventional ways of bodybuilding with Adano’s advice about the role of gaseous pressurization and fluid dynamics.
The “pump” is more than simple hydraulics.
Later I yawned, burped, and farted all my “muscle” and “fat” away, and I’m so skinny again you’ll see more “meat” in a five-cent taco.
(4) Adano (during a Solar Nutrition workshop at Scandia Health Food Store in California) pointed to a photo of a bodybuilder on a can of protein powder and boasted …
“See that guy with all his muscles? Give him to me for thirty minutes and I’ll make him yawn and fart all that muscle away.”
(5) A student of Master Chen (Yun Xiang Tseng) told me the following story …
He was amazed to watch Chen put away plate after plate after plate of food.
Chen read his mind and told him …
“I don’t shit. I turn it all into Qi.”
(6) “A sound heart is the life of the flesh,” according to Proverbs 14:30.
Burning calories is the job of the Third Chakra, while gaseous constriction and dilation is the job of the Fourth Chakra, commonly called the Heart Chakra.
An endomorph (chubby-morph) resonates with the Fifth Chakra – the Thyroid Chakra.
A mesomorph (muscle-morph) resonates with the Fourth Chakra – the Heart Chakra.
An ectomorph (skinny-morph) resonates with the Third Chakra – the Uterine Chakra.
Men have a homologue of the uterus (and vagina) called the prostatic utrical (“pouch of the prostate”).
Today’s mainstream medicine claims it serves no function, but urologist Dr. Robert William Taylor wrote in 1899 …
“In coitus it so contracts that it draws upon the openings of the ejaculatory ducts, and thus renders them so patulous [open] that the semen readily passes through.”
(7) The Third Chakra can also affect the Fourth Chakra – heat rises from the Fire Chakra to the Air Chakra.
One purpose of Kriya Yoga is to reverse this process and direct heat downward into the anus.
Adano said …
“The purpose of doing Kriyas is to have a cool head and a hot ass. Most people have a hot head and a cold ass.”
Drinking cold water causes weight gain while drinking warm water causes weight loss.
Yes, like today’s media says, drinking cold water burns more calories, but it still causes more weight gain, especially carbonated liquids.
Carbon dioxide is a refrigerant.
(8) Sri Yukteswar gained fifty pounds in a few hours, thanks to a little boost from his guru, Lahiri Mahasaya.
Qi is gaseous pressurization, not magnetic field or “auric” phenomena, as many so-called “experts” claim.
Magnets and magnetic beds can actually decrease life force without a thorough understanding of magnetic domains.
The “aura” is magnetic and calorific and confined to the Third Chakra.
COUGHING and BLOWING (and shoulder rotation and rib expansion) are precursors to the mastery of Qi, as seen in the coughing, water blowing, and inflation behavior of pufferfish and triggerfish.
(9) Solar Nutrition is based on constriction and dilation, based on the heart’s systole and diastole.
You constrict during the Spring of the Body (beginning at Lung Time).
“The best time to lose weight is during the Spring of the Body,” according to Adano.
You dilate during the Summer of the Body (beginning at Spleen-Pancreas Time).
You dilate more during the Autumn of the Body (beginning at Urinary Bladder Time).
“The best time to gain weight is during the Autumn of the Body,” according to Adano.
You constrict during the Winter of the Body (beginning at Triple Heater Time).
(10) A Master of Constriction and Dilation (weight loss and gain) is a master of four gases – oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, and carbon dioxide.
Jan Baptist van Helmont (1579-1644) was the “founder of pneumatic chemistry.”
Helena Curtis (Biology, Second Edition, 1968, 1975) wrote …
“Van Helmont grew a small willow tree in an earthenware pot for four years, adding only water to the pot. At the end of five years, the willow had increased in weight by 164 pounds, while the earth decreased in weight by only 2 ounces.”
Van Helmont discovered the “gas” (oxygen) is in the arteries and the “ferment” (coal) is in the veins.
Optimum weight is a result of the gas and the ferment cancelling each other out with EFFICIENT RESPIRATION.
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May 19, 2025 • 1h 10min
John Howard-Smith – Improving Health By Avoiding Toxins & Chemicals While We Sleep & Much More!
John Howard Smith is the CEO of Savvy Rest and he joined us today to talk about improving our immune system and overall health by sleeping on 100% natural organic bedding.
Many people don’t realize that many of the foam mattresses and bedding manufactured today contain, cancer causing compounds and toxins that can make you sick.
The chemicals that are in the fire retardant beds off gas (think new car smell) for years even if you can no longer smell it.
Many of these chemicals are known carcinogens and have a devastating effect on the immune system and body.
We spend roughly one third of our lives sleeping with our head in very close proximity the mattresses that are off gassing potentially dangerous toxins into our lungs each night.
I’ve always been a proponent of making sure that the areas of your life which take up most of your day, should be upgraded to improve health and decrease exposure to toxicity.
The two areas of my life are my bed as well as my working environment. Sleeping and working take up probably two thirds of the day. So while I’m typing this I’m grounded to the earth, using Flux to minimize blue light exposure and using a standing desk so I don’t sit all day long.
When I sleep we also use a grounded bed sheet and do many of the items contained in this video.
I’m so excited to finally find a reputable company whose business values I support as well as the products they create. They’re environmentally friendly, and hold all the same values I do.
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John Howard Smith
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John Howard Smith is the CEO of Savvy Rest which provides non toxic, chemical free bedding and furniture.
Show Topic:
Organic bedding and organic furniture
Guest Website(s):
http://www.savvyrest.com
Guest Product(s):
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