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Aug 21, 2025 • 0sec
The Myth Of Ownership, How To Honor Your Father & Mother, Carrying The Burden Of Others, Questioning Truth, Listener Questions & Much More!
I don’t know about you guys but these Free For All Friday shows #FFAF421, are the most fun shows I do. I love talking about all kinds of interesting topics with Kate.
I know I’ve said this before but I really wish we could record all the awesome conversations we’re blessed enough to have throughout most days. What you hear on these shows are only about 10% as good as those other conversations! We’ll have to get some mics to wear when we’re having fun conversations like that!
In today’s show we talked about the myth of ownership. I shared an analogy of being in the gym and using equipment for specific goals. For example, I might use the bench press machine to build a bigger chest. If I go up to use that machine and somebody else gets to it before I do, I’ll get angry (if I’m not living consciously in that moment).
I get angry and annoyed because I feel like I have some kind of “right” or ownership over that machine. In actuality I float around the gym, using different weights for different goals I have. This is much like life. We think we own our personalities. We think we own our opinions and thoughts about things. We think we own things in the physical world like our cars, our houses and even people.
And it doesn’t stop there. We think we own our organs or our spouses. Have you ever heard somebody say, “I have cancer in MY liver” or “meet MY husband”.
Language has trapped us and we’ve become entangled into the web of identity, labels and ownership. We think we are the things that end up owning us.
We also talked about an interesting concept of honoring your father and mother. But we didn’t talk about it from the normal typical boring way you heard in church growing up. Humans are almost encoded with not just our desire to honor our parents but we actually do it, whether we’re conscious or not. We will honor them even if it means poor health.
We think we’re rebelling against them but in fact we’re honoring them. When you listen to the show you’ll know more about what we mean! 🙂
Then we talked about carrying other people’s burdens and how some people don’t have a filter and try to force you to carry their burden when you never asked for it. All of these emotional challenges cause us to not just lose our life for energy but to start breaking down physically. Our health becomes compromised as a result of all of this toxic stress going on.
I really believe that all physical health challenges first show up in the mental, emotional and spiritual realms first.
I hope you like our ramblings. Kate and I do it because we enjoy talking to one another. If you like it that’s great but we’re going to keep doing it anyway!
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Thursday 3/11/2016
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 35min
Dr. Gayl Hubatch – The Amazing Health Benefits Of Qigong, Acupressure and Chinese Herbs To Help Heal & Restore Your Body
Dr. Gayl Hubatch was on the show today to discuss Chinese medicine, the health benefits of qigong and her experience working with patients from all over the world healing from all kinds of health conditions!
She is the author of Fabric of the Soul: 8 Extraordinary Vessels .
We had a very informing talk about the benefits of ancient Chinese Medicine and all the different ways in which she uses this healing modality to help her clients recover from devastating diseases.
Qigong is something that I practices on a regular basis and I think that it’s essential for building more energy and bringing a deep focused intention into your day.
I HIGHLY recommend doing it each and every day!
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Show Date:
Monday 11/10/2014
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Dr. Hubatch is a practitioner and instructor of traditional Chinese medicine. Her interest in extraordinary vessel theory has led her to study qigong and TCM in China and compile extensive clinical research. For 28 years she has contributed notably to the rise of Chinese medicine in the west. Dr. Hubatch maintains a clinic in Austin, Texas and teaches throughout the U.S. integrating acupuncture, herbs, qigong, taiji, yoga, and Jin Shin Do® Bodymind Acupressure®.
Gayl Hubatch, OMD earned a doctorate degree in Oriental medicine from the International Institute for Chinese Medicine in Santa Fe, NM and Harbin, China. She has been a practitioner and instructor of Chinese Medicine for over 25 years. Gayl has been on the faculty at the Academy of Oriental Medicine and teaches nationwide while maintaining a practice of acupuncture and herbal medicine, acupressure, cranial sacral and massage therapy.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 2h 2min
Learning To Stop Listening To The Lies of Others, The Fun In Being A Seeker of Truth, Kate’s Synchronicities, Meditation Ideas & Much More!
Can you believe it has been 2 whole weeks since we had our last FFAF show?
Last week we had the honor of hosting Dr. John Bergman (our chiropractor) in our studio which was so much fun. We could have talked with him for hours!
We are looking to have Dr. Bergman as a regular once per month in studio guest. What do you think about that? His shows are so popular and people really seem to enjoy him a lot. I find him fascinating!
Today we had a fun show talking about candida and yeast infections to begin with. We talked about Dr. Jeff McCombs’ Candida Plan website and what the entire candida plan consists of.
Then we talked about why it’s important (sometimes) to not listen to others (especially when they tell you lies). It’s not easy to stay strong, rooted deep and be a man or woman of conviction. People, especially when you’re in the public eye will always try to offer you their opinion about how they think you should think, believe or behave.
You just have to breathe deep and let it all go. Their opinions of us are none of our business! 🙂
That got us thinking about how fun it is to live in the question. To live in the mystery of life and all that it entails. We talked about how it rubs us the wrong way when people feel like they have all the answers.
Life is so grand, so unique, so vast, and so incredibly rich and full, that for somebody to tell you they know how it all works is insane. In my mind I think they’re nuts.
Nobody has all the answers. Nobody has it all figured out. We need to stop looking to other people that we think are gurus and start looking to ourselves for the answers.
Then I shared my ideas about meditation tips. I came up with a meditation that seems to be working great for me and I really enjoy it a lot!
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Friday 11/21/2014
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 30min
Daniel Vitalis – The 4 Noble Elements: Part 4 Fire – How Managing Your Exposure To All Forms of Light Can Dramtically Impact Your Health
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Daniel Vitalis from Surthrival.com joined us to talk about the 4th noble element which is fire.
It’s interesting how a subject seemingly as mundane and boring, (sunshine) can be so fascinating and interesting. One of the points he drove home was the fact that we actually live in the sun. If you think about the sun in terms of layers that begin at its core and extend out into the atmostphere, earth simply sits within one of the layers of the sun. So we actually live in the sun.
Crazy to think about right?
We always love having Daniel on the show. We know he’s got so much on his plate and likes to dive deep into subject matter so we like to offer him a place to discuss cutting edge and sometimes controversial topics without fear of being cut off or not invited back.
He comes up with some really fascinating information that is for sure.
One of the more interesting things we talked about on the show was how vitamin D, because it is fat soluble is in the skin and when we go into the sun during the day and then come home and take a shower, we actually strip those oils off our skin that contain vitamin D. The next time you spend some time laying in the sun and soaking up the rays of vitamin D, don’t take a shower that day and use soap to strip off everything you just built up in your body.
Just knowing little tid bits like that can help us make changes in how we live our lives.
Daniel also talked about the little known fact that vitamin D is actually a secosteroid and not an actual vitamin at all. If we get enough sunlight during the summer and spring months we can actually store up in our livers the vitamin D to make it through the winter.
What’s most fascinating and often not talked about is the vitamin D needs of people with varying levels of melanin in their skin. For example descendants from Africa need much more sunlight and vitamin D than really fair skinned people. It makes sense if you think about their skin almost being like a pair of sunglasses over their body.
Because they have that protective layer of melanin (dark skin) it takes more direct sunlight shining on their skin in order for their body to produce the right hormone levels like seratonin and melatonin and vitamin D in order to be healthy.
Can you see now how a black person living in Washington might have problems? Or can you see how a white person living in Africa could develop skin cancer? It’s really quite interesting when you think about the health effects of living in certain geographical locations based on skin color alone.
I’m quite sure the same is true with diet. Dr. Hal Huggins talks about the ancestral diet and this plays a huge role. If we’re American Indian or from Alaska, we can’t eat a high fruit diet just because we live in Hawaii now.
We have to take into consideration our lifestyle, skin color and ancestral past in order to figure out how we on an individual level should be living.
We also talked about the benefits of getting sun exposure to your genitals and parts of your body where “the sun don’t shine”. For women getting sun exposure to their breasts would be something to consider as well as for a man to have sun exposure to the testicles. According to Daniel sun exposure to the testicles and the back enable the body to produce high amounts of testosterone. We’ve also learned from Atom Bergstrom that tapping or pounding on the chest helps to build testosterone as well. Lots of interesting ideas here to say the least.
Getting exposure to the sun also helps to regulate cholesterol levels, blood pressure levels and actually helps to reduce cancer if it’s done in a strategic way. We’re not saying here we should lay out and bake in the mid day sun because there is no doubt that too much exposure to the sun actually damages and ages the skin. So we need to make sure we’re doing this in a smart way.
At the end we wrapped up the interview talking about the benefits of sitting in a FAR infrared sauna and sweating out that energy from the sun.
This is truly an amazing show with some great tid bits of information that will really make you think about the sun and energy (whether magnetic, electromagnetic) in a whole new way.
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We discuss the following and so much more:
Why sweating is critical for our health
Why washing your body with soap after sun bathing can harm your health
Why we should consider our skin color before we move north or south
How regular sun exposure plays a role in lowering cholesterol and decreasing cancer
The importance of getting sun exposure to our breasts, testicles and backs
Simple things we can do to decrease blue light as the day wears on
Ways to modify our cell phones and computers to lower blue light
And so much more!
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 11min
Atom Bergstrom – Solar Nutrition: Why Eating Food At The Right Time Of Day Is Healing To The Body
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Atom Bergstrom dropped by today to discuss chronobiotic nutrition with us. Sometimes it’s called solar nutrition. It was developed by Adano Ley or otherwise known as Swami Nityananda Saraswati or Swami Nitty Gritty as he liked to be called.
Atom Bergstrom spent roughly 13 years with Adano Ley in Texas, California and beyond. Atom Bergstrom is also the author of Yes, No, Maybe: Chronobiotic Nutrition.
Atom is also the author of many other books which are available on his website. We’re going to be featuring the work of Atom Bergstrom on our website on a monthly basis as we believe he’s got some extremely valuable things to share with our audience.
In this show we wanted to talk in a very general manner about what solar nutrition is all about and why eating foods in their proper time is important. The idea is that the angle that the sun hits the food is important. If my memory is correct the water molecule has atoms (or is it electrons) that sit on the side of it at 111 degrees and look like Micky Mouse ears. If those angles aren’t correct the water molecule wouldn’t be water.
Because everything is angles (geometry), frequency and energy the timing, and natural rhythms of life work in cycles and not in a linear way. We’re taught in Western society that everything is linear when in fact all of nature tells us otherwise.
Every organ and gland in the body works on a specific predictable timing pattern as well. Living in this pattern is where the magic happens. As Atom described, if you go to a health food store at midnight or a nightclub at 10am it’s not going to work. Our organs and circadian rhythms work much the same way. It’s the cycle of life!
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We discuss the following and so much more:
How to increase fertility naturally
How to detoxify and cleanse the body of chemotherapy & other toxins
Tips for building muscle and gaining weight
Healing digestive issues
The power of the Cobalamin Tonic
How colors affect our physiology
How 1 to 3pm is liver gall bladder time
3 to 5pm is best to build muscle
5 to 7pm is best to build strength
Sri yukteswar
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A Body & Organ Language specialist and promoter of Time Conscious Eating and Longevity Lifestyles, Gosta Ingvar “ATOM” Bergstrom was raised in New Jersey and the San Fernando Valley of Southern California.
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Atom has been teaching workshops and seminars across the U.S.A. since 1977. With over 50 years experience in health and nutrition, Atom has been counseling people with various diseases and ailments since the 70’s. His expertise is on nutrition, chronobiology, reflexology, slit-lamp iridology, meditation, Sufi, and I Ching and other holistic modalities. He graduated from Adano Ley’s Texas Institute of Reflex Sciences in 1979.
Atom’s main teacher was Adano C. Ley or Swami Nityananda Saraswati (aka Swami “Nitty Gritty”) and from whom Atom learned the science of Solar Nutrition, Reflexology and Body/Organ Language and other wholistic modalities of healing. Adano Ley’s guru was Parmahansa Yogananda, author of The Autobiography of a Yogi, who talked about yogis living on sun energy.
He has authored 20 or so e-books and continues to further the spiritual work of Adano Ley, Master Chen (Yun Xiang Tseng), and Adnan Sarhan, as well as promoting the health research of Emanuel Revici, John Beard, Helen Flanders Dunbar, Josef Deck, Matthew Luckiesh, and A.J. Pacini.
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Here’s a few more weight optimization tips for your file …
(1) Whales or giant sea turtles kept in captivity don’t grow as large as they do in the ocean.
Deep diving into high pressure is what activates weight gain.
A similar effect occurs when a baby is expelled from a highly pressurized womb into the less pressurized environment to enter the world with the typical puffy-cheeked, balloon-like “popcorn” baby face.
Leslie Sabbagh (“Keeping the Beat,” Popular Mechanics, April 2005) wrote …
“Take away gravity and the human machine hardly knows how to behave. The gut rebels, sending food back up the esophagus; blood and other fluids shift upward too, giving astronauts puffy faces; and the volume of blood swells in the eyes’ tiny vessels, shortening focal length and decreasing near vision acuity.”
“Sending food back up the esophagus” – think GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease).
“Decreasing near vision acuity” – think myopia (near-sightedness) and presbyopia (“old eyes”).
(2) Adano Ley (Swami Nitty-Gritty) said …
“There’s no such thing as weight loss or weight gain. It’s all constriction and dilation.”
Scientists know a single fat cell can expand 1,000 times, but what really is responsible for the expansion?
(3) My proudest moment at the gym was when someone asked, “Are you on steroids?”
Adano renamed me “Schwarzenberger.”
I combined semi-conventional ways of bodybuilding with Adano’s advice about the role of gaseous pressurization and fluid dynamics.
The “pump” is more than simple hydraulics.
Later I yawned, burped, and farted all my “muscle” and “fat” away, and I’m so skinny again you’ll see more “meat” in a five-cent taco.
(4) Adano (during a Solar Nutrition workshop at Scandia Health Food Store in California) pointed to a photo of a bodybuilder on a can of protein powder and boasted …
“See that guy with all his muscles? Give him to me for thirty minutes and I’ll make him yawn and fart all that muscle away.”
(5) A student of Master Chen (Yun Xiang Tseng) told me the following story …
He was amazed to watch Chen put away plate after plate after plate of food.
Chen read his mind and told him …
“I don’t shit. I turn it all into Qi.”
(6) “A sound heart is the life of the flesh,” according to Proverbs 14:30.
Burning calories is the job of the Third Chakra, while gaseous constriction and dilation is the job of the Fourth Chakra, commonly called the Heart Chakra.
An endomorph (chubby-morph) resonates with the Fifth Chakra – the Thyroid Chakra.
A mesomorph (muscle-morph) resonates with the Fourth Chakra – the Heart Chakra.
An ectomorph (skinny-morph) resonates with the Third Chakra – the Uterine Chakra.
Men have a homologue of the uterus (and vagina) called the prostatic utrical (“pouch of the prostate”).
Today’s mainstream medicine claims it serves no function, but urologist Dr. Robert William Taylor wrote in 1899 …
“In coitus it so contracts that it draws upon the openings of the ejaculatory ducts, and thus renders them so patulous [open] that the semen readily passes through.”
(7) The Third Chakra can also affect the Fourth Chakra – heat rises from the Fire Chakra to the Air Chakra.
One purpose of Kriya Yoga is to reverse this process and direct heat downward into the anus.
Adano said …
“The purpose of doing Kriyas is to have a cool head and a hot ass. Most people have a hot head and a cold ass.”
Drinking cold water causes weight gain while drinking warm water causes weight loss.
Yes, like today’s media says, drinking cold water burns more calories, but it still causes more weight gain, especially carbonated liquids.
Carbon dioxide is a refrigerant.
(8) Sri Yukteswar gained fifty pounds in a few hours, thanks to a little boost from his guru, Lahiri Mahasaya.
Qi is gaseous pressurization, not magnetic field or “auric” phenomena, as many so-called “experts” claim.
Magnets and magnetic beds can actually decrease life force without a thorough understanding of magnetic domains.
The “aura” is magnetic and calorific and confined to the Third Chakra.
COUGHING and BLOWING (and shoulder rotation and rib expansion) are precursors to the mastery of Qi, as seen in the coughing, water blowing, and inflation behavior of pufferfish and triggerfish.
(9) Solar Nutrition is based on constriction and dilation, based on the heart’s systole and diastole.
You constrict during the Spring of the Body (beginning at Lung Time).
“The best time to lose weight is during the Spring of the Body,” according to Adano.
You dilate during the Summer of the Body (beginning at Spleen-Pancreas Time).
You dilate more during the Autumn of the Body (beginning at Urinary Bladder Time).
“The best time to gain weight is during the Autumn of the Body,” according to Adano.
You constrict during the Winter of the Body (beginning at Triple Heater Time).
(10) A Master of Constriction and Dilation (weight loss and gain) is a master of four gases – oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, and carbon dioxide.
Jan Baptist van Helmont (1579-1644) was the “founder of pneumatic chemistry.”
Helena Curtis (Biology, Second Edition, 1968, 1975) wrote …
“Van Helmont grew a small willow tree in an earthenware pot for four years, adding only water to the pot. At the end of five years, the willow had increased in weight by 164 pounds, while the earth decreased in weight by only 2 ounces.”
Van Helmont discovered the “gas” (oxygen) is in the arteries and the “ferment” (coal) is in the veins.
Optimum weight is a result of the gas and the ferment cancelling each other out with EFFICIENT RESPIRATION.
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Justin: Thank you so much everybody for joining us on today’s edition of extremehealthradio.com. We really appreciate you taking some time out of your day and learning about health and nutrition from Andrea Cox. We’re really excited about having her on the show today.
Today is an amazing day. It’s great weather here in Southern California and we’re ready to go. It is Monday, September 17th, 2012 and this is episode #9. You can find that extremehealthradio.com/9. All of our shows are transcribed, so that means that anything the guest says, or I say, during a show, is searchable on our website. We highly encourage you to take advantage of that. Also, there are show notes on this particular show, and if the guest mentions a book or website, or anything like that, there is no need to write it down, as it will be in the show notes. That’s extremehealthradio.com/9.
If you have any questions, email them to justin@extremehealthradio.com and I will be sure to answer them on the air, or myself personally. If you would like to leave a voicemail for our guest, you can do so at (949) 391-7363 and we will play your message on the air to our guest.
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Before we introduce our guest, I would like to go over a little bit of our show schedule. We have some great guests lined up for you this month. We are typically doing shows right now on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. This Wednesday, we have Lucas Rockwood, who is a yoga practitioner, and he will be talking to us about cleansing and detoxification, yoga, exercise and that kind of stuff. On Friday, we have Don and Carol Croft, who are doing a lot of great work with energy medicine and frequencies. They have something called ‘the terminator-2 zapper’, which helps to kill parasites.
Then, we have Christopher Wark, who beat cancer naturally. So, if you know anyone who has cancer, you may want to send that show onto them. He beat cancer using a raw food diet, so you will definitely want to check that out. We also have Sean Croxton, who is a big guy who is into the paleo diet, so he’ll be teaching us what the paleo diet is all about. We have Dr. Bruce Shelton, who is a homeopathic doctor in Arizona, doing some great work with healing people with all kinds of things, with chelation therapy, ozone and all kinds of interesting alternative medicine. We also have Dr. Gerald Smith who is a homeopathic dentist out of New York. He is going to be making the connection between cancer and root canals.
So, we have a lot of great guests coming up, so make sure to visit our show page and check that out.
I want to introduce our guest today. I’m very excited about having Andrea Cox on. She is a highly published fitness model, turned author. She has appeared in several fitness magazines, as well as other media. She has had several articles published on reflexology and raw food. She fell in love with the healthy California lifestyle and the uncooking methods of the raw food movement.
She is now a raw living food coach, who prides herself on teaching and spreading the word on living a healthy and active lifestyle. At 5’11” tall, she has stayed a size 0 for six years, eating as many as 4000 calories a day, of what she refers to as ‘real food’. She currently holds juice fasting and raw food cleansing retreats in Southern California and all over the world. So, visit her website. It’s thehealthyhaven.net. You can find out more about her classes and her books on her website.
So, thanks for joining us today Andrea, we really, really appreciate it.
Andrea: I’m in there and also send people to my newest website, alkalizewithandrea.com and also andreacox.com. alkalizewithandrea.com Justin is the webite where everybody can find out about the current retreats I’m holding. I’m holding juicing retreats and I also hold raw food retreats at the #1 health spa in the country.
Justin: So are those two brand new websites?
Andrea: No, they’ve been around for a while. However, I just hired a great person to try to keep them updated on a regular basis, so all of my following and my clients can keep up with my writing a new article or if I’m holding a new retreat or I’m on the news, or whatever I’m doing.
Justin: Great, that’s really, really good. So, you work with celebrity clients as far as cleansing and detoxification and things like that?
Andrea: I do, I do. I have one coming at 3:30 today, who I’m very excited about. I was actually on the news with him locally here in San Diego a couple of weeks ago, so am really excited to have him stopping by today.
Justin: So, people can see you and come and visit you, as well as doing things with you virtually over the internet? Is that how it works?
Andrea: Absolutely, I’m about to launch my digital detox program, which is very inexpensive. It’s just $97 and people can download on an MP3, my home raw food juicing protocol to get that last 10 lbs off, or even kick start anything that they want to begin when it comes to getting healthy, cleaning or just changing their lifestyle.
Justin: That’s great, just $97.
Andrea: That’s on alkalizewithandrea.com
Justin: Okay, we’ll have all of those links on our show page here too. I want to ask you, what is reflexology? I’ve heard about it, but I’ve never really had anything done with it. What is it?
Andrea: Reflexology is not something that I focus my energy on any longer, but I do believe it’s really important when getting healthy. It’s something that I discovered over a decade ago when I was on one of my first juice fasting retreats. I wasn’t running it, I was actually attending one, and it just really helped me get out a lot of the emotional things I was dealing with. I had had a loss and I was just really feeling like there was some deep rooted things that needed to come out of my core. Reflexology is massage of the hands and feet, and sometimes the ear lobes. All of our pressure points and all of our nerve endings go to our hands and feet. It’s just another way of detoxification, opening up the pathways, etc.
Justin: I read that you had some eating disorders that you were dealing with, prior to becoming a raw food person. Is that right?
Andrea: Absolutely, I’m so glad you brought that up, because that is why I’m here today. That is why I teamed up with my partner recently, who is going to be running some retreats with me as well. She also suffered with, actually the same eating disorder. You know, I think it’s important to let women and men, because eating disorders don’t discriminate, to know that they’re not alone, even in the midst of what they’re going through, if they have their head in a toilet bowl, or whatever, if they’ve been binge eating for 5 days at a time.
The thing now is that they can pull themselves out of it. It’s kind of the flip of a coin as to what’s really causing it. I come from the belief that yes, there’s an emotional component, but even more so, there’s a detoxification that needs to occur in the body. People are so void of minerals from eating the wrong food and bad food and packaged, processed, fertilized, homogenized, pasteurized, you know de-energized food and for so long that they can’t get the minerals they need. A common mineral that people are low on, when dealing with an eating disorder, is zinc.
Women are just low in zinc. There I go, I’m discriminating, women and men are both low in zinc and that can make you eat some crazy food. It can make you have some crazy cravings. That’s why I developed the products that I developed, to help people, re-establish that mineral balance in their bodies.
Justin: Interesting. So, have you found that there is an emotional connection with doing a detox and maybe some blockage that’s in your body? Have you found that there is, you know, when you start doing heavy detox, there is a lot of emotion that gets involved in that. Right?
Andrea: Oh yeah, I’m about to go on a month long detox myself, that I put a lot of my clients on. I have to tell you, it’s day 1 and I’m already having that come up. I think that, whenever you detox, no matter what it is, if it’s juice fasting, water fasting, or eating just fruits and vegetables, going on a raw food diet, eliminating you know, the major allergens we eat, gluten, dairy, etc.
I think there’s always a detox involved with your emotions. Because let’s face it. Our issues are in our tissues. Those issues that we’re dealing with, you know, I always make comparisons and I don’t want to do that today, but maybe you fell off your bike when you were 5 years old, and something happened that a friend pushed you off your bike, or you got into a fist fight in high school and got punched in the mouth and had a root canal from that. As you know, root canals cause the world of trouble, but you’re hanging on to all those feelings, and any moment in time, can trigger those feelings.
I will give you a great example. I just got out of a relationship, a beautiful and loving relationship, and what happened is, I look back now, shortly after, and see that we both had, I’ll speak for myself, I had so many issues from my childhood that were being triggered by this wonderful man. There were triggering and triggering, and what I realized was, that I was playing out a complete role with myself and just completely playing a role that I never dealt with about losing my father at an early age, etc., and some of the things he dealt with. I was feeling that so strongly with this man, and it took being away from him to realize that. Well, that’s a detox.
That’s emotional detox right there. When you’re not suppressing it with food. Justin, I’ll just talk you’re whole show, by the way, you don’t have to talk, you can actually eat lunch, and I’ll keep talking!! That’s what I do!!
Getting back to it, when you’re not suppressing those feelings down with food or cooked food or animal products, boy, that really comes up. I also tell my clients to steam some vegetables or eat some cooked food when they’re on a raw food diet. If they are too anxious or too moody, they need a little slowing of a cleanse, because that’s what the raw food diet is, it’s one big cleanse.
Justin: I’ve definitely noticed some issues with myself as well, with doing a raw food diet for many years. You know, it’s one of the best cleansing diets you could ever go on.
Andrea: Absolutely, it’s sometimes even better than juicing. I’m an avid juicer. I’m the juicing queen to the stars. Sometimes people don’t realize, even just eating raw food, because it’s pushing the matter down can be even more detoxifying than just juice alone
Justin: Now, did you go 100% raw overnight, like some people do, or did you ease into it?
Andrea: I’m kind of an all or nothing girl. I went overnight, but was ill, on a high protein diet, I was a fitness model and couldn’t get out of bed one day. My fingers were bent in a way that was unfamiliar to me, and either my next door neighbor or my mother, probably both, suggested I fly to New York to meet the author of a book I was reading on raw food.
I soon after flying to New York realized so I went her with all the information but her colon hydro therapist so I went and spent some time with him and ended up doing a 40-day juice fast and a 7-day water fast, which was the easiest thing I ever did in my life, believe it or not, and that changed my life forever. And, you know, I just went back to, I don’t want to promote any type of fasting on this call, but I just went back to a little water fasting and things like that, this past week. It’s always different each time you do it. But you know it’s really healing to let go, but you have to be really square in you mind to be able to take something like that on.
Justin: Yeah, water fasting is a big deal. How do you typically wean off of it? I have never done one myself.
Andrea: You know, I really don’t want to promote that on this call, I just don’t. I’d rather not, as you have to be really dialed in to do that. You know, I don’t want to go into specifics, but I don’t want people who are listening to this, who had eggs for breakfast, think that they should stop everything and drink water for 36-42 hours, whatever. I really don’t want to touch on this on this call. Is that okay with you?
Justin: Yes, no problem at all. What types of different cleansing protocols do you do? There are things like, obviously you know about all of these, liver cleanses, gallbladder cleanses, herbal cleanses, colonics and enemas. Each year, do you do a certain thing at a certain time, or do you just kind of wing it and take these things on as the year progresses.
Andrea: Do you know what, I’m going to be totally honest with you. I am very familiar with Andrea Flores and everyone, I know most of the people who created the liver and gallbladder cleanse and this flush and that flush and you need to do a kidney cleanse at this time of year, cleanse your spleen and pancreas at this time of year. I don’t believe in that. This is what I believe. I believe our skin is the largest, I believe in facts and I believe in results. Our skin is the largest organ in our body, so quit putting toxic substances on our skin.
The quickest way for a man not to get close to me is to show up to pick me up on a Friday night for a date with cologne on. He will be shown the door immediately. I think that’s the #1 thing, don’t be putting toxic substances on your body, including the toothpaste you brush with make sure it’s fluoride free. That’s #1 in cleansing, because once your skin can breathe, you can breathe. Sweating is extremely important. #2 is the colon. The colon is the way to cleanse. Let’s face it, what goes in, we’ve been putting in since we were born.
People are like, my bowel movements are great they’re stellar and I have a big bowel movement every morning. That’s great, but what did you eat the day before? Seriously, what did you eat? Did you have your fruit, your granola, your avocado salad, your chicken dinner, your whatever? Do you really see all that in the morning toilet? No. The colon is the best way that way. I think the other organs naturally cleanse after that. Moving your lymphatic system is vitally important. Moving your lymph system is really important.
I have a personal thing with the lymphatic system. I recently got extremely reconnected with my own lymphatic system, so any type of bouncing movement, like a rebounder, or sweating or any type of movement lifts the lymph system, but there are certain movements that are better for the lymph system than others. So, I believe in lymphatic and I believe in juicing. I am a huge proponent of juicing and eating fruit. A lot of people say, stay off the fruit, it feeds candida. I am at the opposite end of the spectrum.
Justin: When we come back, I want to ask you some more questions about cleansing and things like that. We’re with Andrea Cox and her website is thehealthyhaven.net. All of her Facebook and Twitter accounts are linked up on this show page, which is extremehealthradio.com/9.
Follow her on Facebook and Twitter, as she is putting out lots of great information. She has a video that I watched recently on her Facebook account that I would like to talk to her about. So, we’ll do that when we come back, so let me just run this spot and we’ll be right back.
We are back with Andrea Cox from thehealthyhaven.net and, before the break, we were talking about some cleansing and detoxification protocols that she does.
So Andrea, I want to ask you about juicing. What kinds of things do you juice, how often and how much do you juice every day?
Andrea: You know, I follow, what I call, the Andrea Cox method of listening to your body. So, I am an avid juicer. It’s very difficult for me to skip a day of juicing, because I know the benefits so well. I find that if I do skip a day, which I’ve got to tell you, probably in eight years I’ve skipped one or two days. I find that my skin doesn’t look as glowing.
I don’t have the energy the next day, so I’m a huge proponent of juicing. I like to think about juice, you know each herb or vegetable you juice has it’s own detoxifying principle. So, you know, if you’ve got inflammation juice turmeric or ginger, digestion will be ginger fennel, water retention would be parsley, cilantro would be for mercury detoxification skin would be cucumber.
I really would like to go from what I’m feeling that day. If I’ve had too much salt the day before, you’d better believe that celery is not going in my juice, but parsley is. If I’ve been eating lots of fruits, you’d better believe that celery is going into my juice to mineralize me. And so on and so forth. This morning I had everything local from the Farmers Market, from yesterday of course. I am a huge proponent of local. I know all of my farmers by name.
I had parsley and I had pomegranate seeds, cucumber, celery, fresh mint and fennel. That was my juice today. I did about 3-4 cups and I had that around noon. That’s how I roll. I had a couple of mangoes later on and I’m just kicking butt getting some off time hanging with Justin.
Justin: Isn’t it amazing how after you switch your diet your cravings go and your feeling of needing to feel full all the time. It’s amazing how much food that you used to eat. I wake up and I’m not hungry until 2:00 p.m.
Andrea: Do you know what? I want to say something about that. I’m so glad that you brought that up Justin, because not everybody’s like you, and I just know, without mentioning any specific names, but with a specific person who I got to know very well, it depends on your level of toxicity, because a toxic person will wake up and have to go and grab something to eat right away. But, a non-toxic person, or someone who’s done tons and tons of cleanses, like probably yourself and myself, could go all day and just have, you know, a juice around 2 o’clock or whatever, and be fine.
Many days I don’t even have my juice, especially lately, until later and later. And then there’s many days when I like to have that fruit meal and I like to have that evening meal. This past weekend, I spent two days out of town and had gourmet raw food. Am sure you’re familiar with Olaf? We love Olaf, we love stuff eater, don’t we?
Justin: Yeah, he’s great.
Andrea: I spent two days of eating the gourmet raw food and woke up today and thought, my God, what are you going to do now to get rid of all that damage? But, I’m back on my protocol and it worked. I think that’s the thing, find what works for you. If I can give anyone 5 tips, it would be 1) nobody else has your body, so what works for Andrea Cox, what works for Justin, is not going to work for Joe Schmo. You have to find what works for you, 2) get a juicer, even before a Vita-Mix, especially before a dehydrator.
The dehydrator is for when I’ve got food that’s going to go bad and I want to whip up a raw dehydrated recipe or something like that. I barely dehydrate food anymore. 3) Surround yourself with people who live your type of lifestyle.
That is so important. You know, we’re most like the five people we surround ourselves with. So, right now the five people around me are full of life, full of energy, full of health and they’re focused. They’re people that believe in what I’m doing and I believe in what they’re doing. I’m very careful about who I allow in my circle and who I allow to be around me in my space. That’s important. 4) Listen to your body.
If you’re craving something, and your craving liver or like meat, look up on the internet what that really means. Maybe you’re low in iron, but maybe you need some spinach with some orange juice squeezed on it so you can absorb the iron in the spinach. So look at what you’re craving, or maybe something has triggered your emotions. The fight you had with your brother or sister when you were 15 years old or something like that and it’s triggering the emotions so are you emotionally eating or are you eating because you want to eat.
I mean, that’s a huge one. With my clients, the clients I take on, especially the one’s who have eating disorders you know they can go through a breakup and go one way or the other. They’ll either not eat or they’ll over eat because they’re not getting the norepinephrine, dopamine, oxytocin to their brain that they were getting when they were in that loving relationship. And that’s a toughie. To not jump into something else right away but to actually to say, okay, how else can I get these feelings filled and not go off the wagon nutritionally. Lastly, cleanse your colon, make best friends with the colon hydro therapist.
People rip on me all the time for that, because I have videos on colon hydrotherapy and I believe in it. But, I tell you what, you should have one on speed dial, because when your digestion stops, that’s when you get things going and then you flow again with life
Justin: My wife (Kate) and I just had our very first one. I’ve been doing raw food since 2003, and we only just went for our very first colonic probably six months ago, and what an experience that was. It makes such a difference.
Andrea: How was it?
Justin: It was amazing and was nothing like I expected. It was not nearly as invasive as I thought and the lady who did it was really great and was really knowledgeable. It was an amazing experience and I think it’s important to do something like that, at least once a year, right?
Andrea: Yes, I’d say at least once a year. I’d say that when we get into raw food, once a week. Absolutely.
Justin: I wanted to ask you a little bit about, coming out of the fitness industry like you did, I work out a lot at the gym, and it’s interesting to me the difference between what you hear trainers telling people to eat and what is actually healthy. I’m sure you’ve noticed this huge chasm with results and how your body looks, versus how healthy you are. They are two completely different things, aren’t they?
Andrea: They are very different. The results that you get when coming out of the gym, I mean you’ve got to really differentiate between information and real truth information. People are putting, and I was guilty of this years ago, powders and things like in their bodies, protein powder made from whey that’s made in the factory and they think they’re doing themselves a healthy thing, and I’ll tell you, that is the definition of depression right there. I did that stuff for years.
I did the low carb diet, I used protein powders within 20 minutes of leaving the gym for my muscles. It was so beat into me. I would eat six meals a day. Talk about clogged. My first colonic. I mean you want me to tell you how my colonics are now?
Justin: Please do, we’d love to know.
Andrea: Okay, well let’s talk poo. If you can’t talk poo Justin, what can we talk about?
Justin: Right.
Andrea: My first colonic was just horrible and the woman said she had healed herself from cancer, this was in Ohio. She was from Panama her name was (inaudible) and she said you’re eating too much protein. And I said, ah you know whatever. I mean it was coming out like, locks. And now my colonic, I could go to a new colonic person tomorrow and not even go to my regular colonic lady I go to and she would just be like, wow! Oh my gosh, you are textbook colonic.
I do a colonic now and they are just blown away, they have to fill me once and then I release the entire time on my own, I don’t even get a second or third fill. Most people get 30 fills during a colonic, I get one. Why? Because I’m clean. I’m so incredibly clean that my body flows.
There are times, like today, where I wake up in the morning and from morning until bed I feel the energy rushing up and down my center that is so strong and so powerful that it’s, sometimes it’s hard to sleep at night because my energy is so good and that’s when I know I need a little denser food maybe go raw, make a little gourmet in the dehydrator something to slow me down.
Justin: So what would you suggest for someone out there who’s eating, let’s see, if someone’s eating just a standard American diet what would you suggest for them if they’re interested in getting a colonic done, what would you suggest as far, is there, are there things they need to do to ease into that or should they just go get one?
Andrea: Yes. I wouldn’t suggest getting a colonic done right away. If you’re eating a standard American diet or even if you’re still eating meat work on your diet first. Wake up that old matter. You really want to wake up that old matter so we need to start juicing, it’s very alkaline and your body is very acidic when you’re eating regular food or standard American diet.
Let’s not even talk standard America, let’s talk about the average person that’s eating like I was as a fitness model. There eating 3-4 times a day there eating animal products at each meal they’re having eggs for breakfast having a chicken salad for lunch there maybe doing a whey protein drink after the gym, you know someone, you know that’s pretty much the standard American diet and what we’ve been made to believe is healthy in the past decade, correct?
Justin: Right.
Andrea: The whole Atkins theory. So let’s talk about that person, that person has stuck mucoid plaque on there colon walls and they may look in the mirror and say, oh, I’m lean, look how lean I am back (inaudible) you can my vein, look I’m lean. No. You’re not lean it’s stuck to your colon walls. Lean is not necessarily healthy, you’ve got to really look at that. So I would suggest that that person start introducing juicing No. 1 and then more fruits and vegetables No. 2, maybe have their cooked food and their animal products in the evening, and then go for maybe even two weeks without any animal products. Have your cooked food in the evening kind of transition slowly, you’re going to just leave out the animal products.
A week later, get your colonic, see how it goes and set up the situation, see how you feel and then go back to whatever you feel is comfortable for you in that time. It’s a transition. I jumped into it head first and I call that “raw done wrong” in my book, it completely, it was wrong way to go.
Justin: Wow! So you just recommend basically for people to ease into getting a colonic. Now what about doing things like enemas, things like that. Do you do those?
Andrea: You know I did before I moved to where I live now only because I was moving in with another person and I didn’t want that device around but I just ordered one today. Yes I ‘m a huge proponent of Colima boards, enemas, whatever you want to do. The Colima board didn’t work for me, I’m not really a fan of the Colima board but I am a fan of just doing an old enema.
Justin: Okay. Now, can you tell me, I’ve never done one, and how do you do an enema. Can you kind of break that down a little bit for us?
Andrea: You really want me to break it down? I love you, you’re so cute. Okay. So the way I like to do an enema, and when I put people on my cleanse and at my retreat they do an enema, they’ll each have an enema bag, they hang it above their head like on a towel rack, and they’ll fill it with quality water, not bad water, coffee enemas are good too but not for the average person, it wakes up too much matter to fast in the body and they’re not able to handle the liver detoxification.
It can often give people a little bit of anxiety too if they’re prone to anxiety. I give coffee enemas consistently but I’m not own to excess anxiety. So it’s a bag hanging above their head and they’ll insert the insertion tube just roughly an inch into the rectum and they’ll let the water flow. And they’ll feel the urge to release and it will just release around the tube. Done. Clean it off and you’re done.
Justin: Okay. Some people talk about how it could last like an hour, or how quick are these enemas. How long do they last?
Andrea: You know just to refill the bag one to two times maybe three times and you’re done.
Justin: Interesting. I’m going to have to get into that because I’ve always wanted to do it but I’ve never really gotten into, like I said recently, I did my firsts colonic and I’ve been eating this way since 2003 so I’m kind of a slow mover….
Andrea: Justin, I wish I’d have been there. I wish I would have been and witnessed your colonic. I bet it was beautiful if you’ve been eating this way since 1993, beautiful.
Justin: Yes, it was pretty good. So do you grow any of your own wheat grass or sprouting, things like that, do you do all that?
Andrea: Well, I’ll tell you, in Ohio I did. I had a garden and I had a wheat grass guy that delivered to me every other day, I really had it made in Ohio with the way I was living and I actually, it’s funny you say that, I’m seeking that out right now.
I’m seeking to move into a place that 80 percent of the food is grown by us, which I think I found that perfect fit. And I have a very dear friend that I did an interview with that you might want to call up, Anthony Anderson and he is amazing, he’s into permaculture, he’s got a website, he’s really, really great guy. But he’s taught me a lot too just by watching him and what he talks about and his videos and things like that on how to really sustain yourself and grow your own food. It’s really obvious when watch someone who knows what they’re doing when it comes to that and who does it and I’m so eager to learn.
Currently I’m not, I buy 90 percent of my food at the Farmer’s Market and 10 percent as a local organic grocery store.
Justin: Sprouting, do you do any of that, or?
Andrea: You know, I have it made here in California. One of the growers that I buy from at my local Farmer’s Market Lucedia, they sprout for you and I sprouted for years and I’ve got to honest, I cut cost where it’s important but I think time is extremely important, I learned that by a recent friend, he taught me that time is important.
Instead of being out running errands and things, or doing things like sprouting it’s better to kind of focus on things, your health your business ectera, so I don’t spend time sprouting any longer. I was pretty crazy when I sprouting and everything. I purchased my sprouts weekly by Susie’s Farm, which is a local farm.
Justin: What about fermented foods, are you a big fan of fermenting things.
Andrea: Oh my gosh, I love you! This is looking great for me. You can come to all my favorite stuff. I’m going to do the happy dance right now. I love fermenting foods. Did that come over really loud? I love to make coconut kefir, coconut yogurt, kimchi, sauerkraut. I’m spoiled living here in beautiful Southern California. I have a great gal who makes homemade kimchi, sauerkraut at the Farmer’s Market. I also represent Rejuvinative Foods who sends me a gorgeous product.
They just sent me a huge box of, are you ready, fermented ketchup and tons of sauerkraut, kimchi, they have a great ultimate crop. I believe, once a day minimum, you need to have fermented foods in our diet. Minimum. Minimum.
Justin: It’s such a standard in just about every culture, but, for some reason, in American culture, for the last 50-100 years, we just don’t eat anything fermented really.
Andrea: I want to bring up a great point. Someone I just was friends with that I had in my life, she had a dislike for fermented foods and that actually is a sign of someone who has some toxins going on and you just can’t stand even the taste of them. The detoxification process after eating fermented foods is severe. Am sure you know that, right?
Justin: Yes.
Andrea: Someone who doesn’t smell good and says, oh no, not for me. They’ve got some stuff that has to come out. You know what I mean? That was always a concern with me. So, we get concerned when a client or a dear friend says ‘I don’t like sauerkraut’.
I go, wait. Do you like kefir, do you like this, do you like that, and they go, I like kombucha. To me, kombucha is different and I’ll tell you why. Unless you’re making your own, which I did for years from a mushroom, but even then you’re using black tea, which isn’t the healthiest type of tea. Kombucha is full of sugar, so there’s a reason people will say ‘I don’t like kimshi, sauerkraut or kefir, but I like kombucha. So, I think they’re two different categories. Don’t you agree?
Justin: It seems that way, especially with the commercial kombuchas. I think they’re obviously and purposely not fermenting them all the way so that people will like the flavor and the taste.
Andrea: Absolutely, I agree. I think when you make your own, the reason I quit making huge batches of kombucha. The reason I quit making them when I was in Ohio is someone told me that I really shouldn’t use black tea. Black tea is not the best tea for us and the tannins in tea, not so much. I’m not feeling it.
Justin: Interesting, so you gave up your scoby and just moved on.
Andrea: I did. This is going to sound really funny. The scoby, the big mushroom, I cut up and I blended it in soups that took over a month and thought oh, it’s healthy because it’s a fermenting mushroom, so I’ll get all sorts of bacterial life in my gut. Too much bacterial life in my gut, let me tell you. I was fermenting from the inside out. That was an experience.
Justin: How funny. What are some things that women out there can do, as far as wanting to take care of themselves with makeup, doing their nails, hair color and getting things done like that. What are some non-toxic ways that you take care of yourself, so that you’re not spraying chemicals all over your body?
Andrea: Okay, well this is a good one and I’m so glad you brought it up, because I just had a young lady email me and I had another lady post on my blog and this is the question I get the most. Your skin looks great, what do you do? How do you take care of your hair? I do not color my hair, as I’m a natural blonde, so if I feel like my hair is getting a little dark, I’ll go to the beach or I’ll sit in the sun. The hair on my arms is super blonde.
I used to color my hair, because my hair was darker when I still ate animal products so I had to color it. My skin is great. It used to not be great. I had cystic acne growing up and was even on Accutane for a while. And now, I think I had a pimple last week for the first time in like a year. Honestly, it’s stress related completely. In fact, I haven’t gotten a colonic in a while that can also clear up your skin, so I choose not to wear makeup.
Today, it’s near 3 o’clock I don’t have anything on my face. I actually take the fruit I’m eating, a mango, papaya or something like that, and I’ll rub it on my face for a natural face mask. I just use, for a lipstick, the inside of a dragon fruit, so those are really great cosmetics. When I do have to go on TV, or wear cosmetics, I use a line by Jane Iredale, which is a natural mineral makeup. I have been blessed to have that sent to me, for free.
A lot of cosmetic companies send me all kinds of good stuff that are natural. I don’t believe in mica and talc. I think those are extremely toxic. I won’t even work with anyone who use regular cosmetics on their skin. I am really strict on that rule. I once had a girl who I did a juice fast with, and I went and checked out her Facebook blog to see what she was about, and I saw that she said 3 things that she couldn’t live without and one was her makeup, and I thought this girl will never work with me ever.
Justin: What was the name of the makeup you mentioned that you use sometimes?
Andrea: I like Jane Iredale but I recently found one I like better called 100 Percent Pure Cosmetics, it’s 100 percent pure.
Justin: We’ll have people look into that. Now I saw a couple of videos of you on youtube and if you haven’t subscribed to Andrea’s youtube channel I suggest you. The video I watched was, there was two of them I wanted to ask you about, one was a video and you and I don’t know what his name was but he had a big beard and he talked about doing some lemon and olive oil like as a daily liver cleanse.
Andrea: Craig Summers, my dear friend Craig Summers, that wrote the Raw Foods Bible. He’s an amazing guy, so that was just a liver flush I put people on at the very end of the day and it’s just basically lemon juice, olive oil and sea salt to kind of detoxify the lower bowel before dinner. I mean before dinner, before bedtime.
Justin: Okay. And how much of each one do they drink when they make this concoction ?
Andrea: You know, it really depends on if they’re fasting or if they’re not that’s really part of my program that I teach at my retreat. And that’s also going to be in the digital detox that I’ve got on my website coming for $97. Yes, it’s great. So really it depends, I mean if they were cleansing they could do just half a cup and squeeze the juice of the grapefruit in it and some sea salt, but if they’re still eating they’d want to do a little less.
Justin: Tell me a little about the digital product you were just mentioning about cleansing, you said it’s $97 and what will it contain so people can keep an eye out for that?
Andrea: Well I first want to talk to you about my YouTube channel. It is thathealthyhavennet1 so that’s where they can go and subscribe and hit like on my videos and I love that. I mean to ask you what was the second video you were talking about?
Justin: Oh, the second video was the, there was one where you were talking about the benefits of using some kind of sauna. I forgot which one you used but just the benefits of sweating and things like that. I wanted to ask you about that.
Andrea: I have a far infared sauna. I believe in the inferred sauna but I’m learning new information now from the lists that I’ll be running retreats at in Palm Springs that a wood burning sauna might be more beneficial so I will keep you posted via E-Mail on that and maybe your viewers can write in about what’s preferable but I have an inferred sauna, I like to use it at least once a day, I often do bikram yoga at least five times a week.
I believe sweating is imperative for us to heal and when we don’t sweat…it’s the No. 1 way to eliminate, that and through your bowels and gosh if you’re doing either of them I’m sorry but you’ve got to at least one so I believe in that and as far as the digital detox goes, that is $97 and the reason it’s such a great deal, here’s the reason, I’m running, I’ve been given the green light, the go ahead to run the juice fast and raw food retreats at the No. 1 health spa in the country, located here in southern California.
I’ll also be running them at a wonderful mineral springs spa in Palm Springs, I would say that’s probably the No. 2 health spa in the country so I’ve really been blessed with that however, it was really my honor to do a program for people that they could afford if they couldn’t afford to come to these retreats.
So those retreats are between $3000 and $5000 so for people who can afford that $.90 of it I take them through my same cleanse raw food protocol, I pretty much coined the Raw Till Dinner and Juicing Till Dinner and all of that, I pretty much coin phrased that, so I take them through my full protocol and the supplements I use which are available on my website, those humic and fulvic acid products that are amazing which are made from clay to remineralize them and everything they’ll need for that and it’s just a beautiful thing.
Now if they’re interested just log onto the alkalizewithandrea.com website.
We’re also about to launch my new members section on andreacox.com and yes, that’s going to be great, and the healthyhaven.net is where they can find my products which are my breakfast blend, an easy formula, I talk about my book Rawlicious Recipes for sale up there and I’m about to launch my new Ebook Juicing For Beauty.
So these are all great things yeah, but if they want to come and attend my retreat, I’m running a retreat with my partner, Carie Tapagino in San Diego in October and we’ve got very limited availability, very very limited, and we’re offering a great price it’s under $2000 and it’s three days of bliss at the No.1 health spa in the country, so that is yeah great and they can sign up at alkalizewithandrea.com, and yeah, I think the digit detox is a great alternative for those people who either can’t make over here or they just don’t have the funds right now.
Justin: Wow! That sounds really interesting because that’s something I know I need to do and it’s interesting that how powerful this cleansing is because people heal from cancer and Stage 4 cancer doing these types of things so I think it’s really great to get the word out so that people can understand that this stuff is really really powerful.
Andrea: And Justin we’d love to have you, we have double occupancy in our rooms so you and your beautiful wife can come and enjoy all the amenities. The place we’re having it at La Costa Resort And Spa, it’s home of the Chopra Center. So, yeah, it’s an amazing place that people can enjoy all the amenities of the Chopra Center and I’ve got to tell you I just feel blessed beyond belief. I mean if you would have told me 15 years ago that I would be blessed with everything that’s happening in my life right now I wouldn’t believed it.
Justin: Wow! What an amazing thing. So people can find you, I know you have to leave you’ve got a celebrity client coming up in five minutes so we’ll let you go, but people can find you at thehealthyhaven.net and alkalizewith andrea.com and what was the third one?
Andrea: It’s just my name, andreacox.com, that’s the one we’ll be launching the members section real soon. It’s just my name.
Justin: Okay, we will have all of these shows linked up on this show page which is extremehealthradio.com/9 and you’ll be able to find the show Snotes and all the information for Andrea. I suggest you follow her on Facebook and Twitter and YouTube. Follow her and all of her stuff, it’s really really great information, so thank you Andrea for taking an hour out of your day and spending some time with us.
Andrea: Thank you so much. I’m humbled to be on, I feel so honored and blessed for you to have asked me to be on your show. Thank you so much Justin.
Justin: Okay, thanks Andrea and let’s keep in touch and good luck with your celebrity client coming up.
Andrea: Okay. Be well, bye bye.
Justin: Bye bye. Wow, that was really a fun, interesting interview with Andrea Cox. Thanks for listening, man does she want to make you do some cleanses and get clean or what? That was really, really good.
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JUSTIN: A very pleasant good evening or a good afternoon to you everybody. I hope you’re having an excellent day out there, whatever you’re doing right now. It’s a beautiful day here in Southern California and thank you for joining us. We have a really great show for you today. We’ve got Magda Havas on the line and she’ll be talking about electromagnetic radiation, so this is going to be a really, really good show. So, thanks for joining us.
We are currently doing three shows a week, on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Today is Monday, October 22, 2012 and this is episode #25, and you can find this show at extremehealthradio.com/25 and on that show page, there will be transcription and show notes with websites and reference materials and all that good stuff. So, please check out that show page. Also, if you have a question for our guest, or for me, email them to me, justin@extremehealthradio.com as I’d love to hear from you. Or, you can call our voicemail line, which is 949-391-7363 and I will play your message to our guest live on the air.
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Before we introduce Magda Havas, I want to give you a brief rundown on the upcoming show schedule. We’ve got Dr. Mark Sircus out of Brazil and he’s a prolofic guy, the director of the International Medical Veritas Association. He’s written some amazing books on cancer and heart disease. We have Dr. Jack Tips next Friday, who is a prolific individual himself. We’ve got Danny Roddy on the following Monday. He talks a lot about stress and he’s a big fan of Dr. Ray Peat and looking into his work, so that should be fun.
I would like to introduce Magda Havas. She is the Associate Professor of the Environmental and Resource Studies at Trent University. She teaches and does research on the biological effect of environmental contaminantes. She received her Ph.D from the University of Toronto and she completed a post-doctural research at Cornell University and taught at the University of Toronto before going to Trent University in Peterborough, Canada. She is the author, with Camilla Rees of Public Health SOS: The Shadow Side of the Wireless Resolution.
So, thank you so much Magda for joining us today.
MAGDA HAVAS: My pleasure Justin.
JUSTIN: You are calling in from Canada, is that right?
MAGDA HAVAS: That’s right.
JUSTIN: Excellent, when did you publish that book. It sounds interesting, The Shadow Side of the Wireless Resolution.
MAGDA HAVAS: A few years ago, after we held the Commonwealth Club meeting in San Francisco. It was based on questions that the audience had. We asked them to write their questions on little cards and there was so much interest that we didn’t have a chance to answer all of their questions at the meeting. So, Camilla and I decided to put the questions in a book, answer them there and make them available to anyone interested.
JUSTIN: Wow, so people can get that book on Amazon or where can they buy it?
MAGDA HAVAS: Amazon.com and the price is $20, so it’s not very expensive at all.
JUSTIN: Great, now you’ve been involved. I was going through your website recently and you’ve got a lot of great videos on there, and articles. So, you’ve been involved in this for many, many years.
MAGDA HAVAS: Yes, I have.
JUSTIN: What initially got you involved in this type of research?
MAGDA HAVAS: The research I was doing prior to electromagnetic radiation was on chemical toxicants in the environment and environmental toxicologists and I worked on air quality and water quality, particularly the effects of acid rain on aquatic ecosystem. I worked with Cornell, as you mentioned, and I worked in the Canadian artic and I worked in Ontario at smelter sites, and one of the courses I teach at Trent University is called Polution Ecology, where we deal with different types of environmental contaminants and teach the students, you know, where they come from, how they’re transformed in the environment, what effects they have on the environment and what can be done to mitigate those effects.
I was reading some studies on childhood leukemia, kids who live near power lines have a great risk of developing leukemia. The authors thought that it was associated with the electromagnetic fields coming from power lines. I thought that this would be a totally new topic to introduce into the course than reading the literature, and I found that it was really all over the place. This was back in the early 90’s, and then some people were saying that this is a very serious problem and other people were saying, well all the studies that have been done are flawed in some way. I felt that the science wasn’t yet at a stage, you know, where I could teach about it in a way that really made sense to the students, apart from introducing them to a lot of controversy, which can also be useful.
One day, my husband went to visit his brother in Wales, who is an engineer, and one night while walking his dog, mhy brother-in-law pulled out a fluorescent tube when they were walking near a power plant, and he held it up under the high voltage transmission lines. The tube lit up and he was doing this to impress his younger brother.
My husband came home and told me about it and I got quite excited, so we went out to the nearby transmission lines and I did the same thing and it lit up. It was really fascinating to me as it only lit up to where my hand held it. If you point it towards the sky and you grab the tube in the middle, only the top lit up and the bottom part ……6.40….I wanted to understand what was going on and I went to a physics professor at my university, a friend of mine, and I explained it to him. He said that everyone knows that. I said, well, not everyone as it was new to me.
He began to explain to me what was going on and I recall asking him a specific question. I said, do you think that this could contribute to childhood leukemia? It was really his answer that caused me to look into this a lot more carefully, and his answer was definitely not. It definitely can’t contribute to childhood leukemia, and when I asked him what he based that information on, he said that the frequency is too low to cause any damage to the cell. If that’s where the theory is, that it’s theoretical not possible for this relationship, but if the evidence is showing something contrary, then we have to readjust the theory and that’s what I decided to do.
I went and scoured the literature, I went through all the childhood leukemia studies and indeed, there was a relationship that was worth examining in greater details. The studies were not bogus that were finding these adverse effects. I then went through the literature on occupational safety, you know people who worked on power lines, and in fact, low and behold, they also had a higher risk of leukemia, as well as brain tumors and breast cancer, among both men and women. That brought me on to this and I began to teach about it and now I’m actually doing research. So, that’s my answer to your very short question.
JUSTIN: It’s fascinating. Would you say that childhood leukemia is caused by this or is it definitely, at the very least, a correlation?
MAGDA HAVAS: That’s a very interesting question as well. I would say that it doesn’t cause leukemia, in the sense that it doesn’t cause the original damage to the cells, but it seems to promote the growth of cells, and that’s if they’re cancerous cells or non-cancerous cells. So, if a child develops leukemia, for whatever reasons, somehow the body’s immune system is not effectively able to deal with it, if they’re exposed to electromagnetic fields. So, it gives the leukemia a bit of a boost over the body’s immune system, and I think that’s the reason that the rate of ……..9.17…..for kids who actually are exposed at their homes to power lines.
JUSTIN: So, leukemia, or damage to the cells, be caused or be related only to power lines, or to maybe dirty electricity in the wall, or what’s the correlation there?
MAGDA HAVAS: We talk about dirty electricity, and probably most of your listeners don’t know what that is. Let me just go back a little bit, as we’re sort of jumping right into the middle of the pocket. If you look at the electromagnetic polution, I call it polution, but in Europe it’s called electro smog. We’re talking about electromagnetic energy that is non-ionite, so we’re not talking about x-rays or radon gas or gamma radiation, or even ultraviolent radiation. We’re really talking about levels on the electomagnetic spectrum that are non-ionizing. That includes radiofrequency in extremely low frequency and it can also include light and infrared, but I tend to focus on the microwave for radiofrequency and the extremely low frequency.
Within that band, if you look at the biological consequences of this type of exposure, they fall into four different categories. The first category is called extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields, or EMF, and this is where the childhood leukemia was first associated with, the low frequency magnetic fields coming from power supplies. They weren’t measuring power quality and they weren’t measuring anything else. The second area that seems to be important, is an area with higher frequencies. This is the ……. 11.03…..of thousands of cycles per second, and let’s recall power quality and dirty electricity. This is something that flows along your wires, and the closer you …11.19….these wires, the greater your exposure inside a work place or inside a school. The third area is radiofrequency radiation going up to the microwaves. Microwaves is part of the radiofrequency spectrum, but at a higher frequency, about 300 million cycles per second or megahertz, and here we have radiation flowing through the air at very high frequencies, so these three areas are really quite distinct.
Now, there’s a fourth and that’s ground current. This is radiation or electricity that goes through the ground. It comes into your home through your plumbing, because everything is grounded to plumbing. Or, if your walking on the ground, it can actually go into your body. That’s how we first learned about it, on farms, where cows were standing on the ground, the electricity was flowing through their bodies and it interfered with their milk production, and actually caused all sorts of health problems as well.
So, these four areas are critical and you measure them differently and you treat them differently. The effects are slightly different, although there’s a lot of overlap.
JUSTIN: Which one of those four would you presume to be the most dangerous? Is that a valid question or are they just different?
MAGDA HAVAS: I don’t think that’s a totally valid question, I think they’re just different. They all cause problems and they’re not all present in the environment at the same time, or in the same way. So what you have to do, if you’re concerned about exposure, you would have to measure your environment and you would measure your environment for those four different aspects, using different meters and diffent methods of measurement. Then, depending on what you were exposed to and what the levels were, people can recommend what you can do to minimize your exposure. Some things virtually cost you nothing to minimize your exposure and other methods are quite expensive, depending on what the source is.
JUSTIN: Okay, so on top of that, there are diffent appliances, right, that emit some sort of frequency, like hair dryers and vacuum cleaners and things like that? Are those emiting harmful frequencies as well, or are they pretty innocuous?
MAGDA HAVAS: You picked two good ones actually, Justin. The hair dryer has a very high magnetic field and it’s the same magnetic field that has been linked to childhood leukemia. Now, the amount of time that someone uses the hair dryers is quite limited, so for home use, I wouldn’t be too concerned about it. However, if you’re suffering from a brain tumor or breast cancer, or even leukemia, I would minimize exposure to things like hair dryers, computers and other devices that emit the low frequency electromagnetic fields. If you’re a hair stylist, that’s quite different, because you’re going to be exposed for much longer during the day. So, occupationally, it’s much more damaging.
When it comes to the vacuum cleaner, vacumm cleaners produce something called dirty electricity, and that’s been linked to cancer and various types of symptoms that we now classify as electrohypersensitivity. If you happen to vacuum your home once a week, it’s probably not a big issue, but if you’re in the business of house-keeping, for example, and you’re using the vacuum for hours each day, then your exposure might be considerable.
There are ways of dealing with the dirty electricity. You can filter it, for example, and basically minimize your risk.
JUSTIN: Later on in the interview, I’d like to get into all the different ways we can mitigate some of these issues. If people feel like they’re exposed, because there’s cell towers everywhere and there’s basically no way to get yourself away from these things, as they’re basically everywhere. What would you suggest that the first thing someone should do? Maybe get some meters and start looking into what their exposure actually is?
MAGDA HAVAS: Before we even go to meters and before we spend any money, there are a number of things we know can make your home more electromagnetically toxic. And that means, if you have energy efficient light bulbs in your home, contact fluorescent lights for example, they produce a lot of dirty electricity. They emit radio frequencies through the air and they generate ultra violet radiation, which is a carcinogen, linked to skin cancer. If you use compact fluorescent light bulbs that our government is promoting, can actually make a lot of people sick. Normally, the types of symptoms we see are skin problems that don’t clear up, headaches, dizziness, nausea and difficulty concentrating, the symptoms we’ve classified as under the broad umbrella of electrohypersensitivity, and that’s not to mention myalgia, chronic fatigue and insomnia and all sorts of things like that. If you happen to have those light bulbs in your house, my recommendation right now, is to go out and replace them with incandescent light bulbs. I know they’re not nearly as energy efficient, but when you have an energy efficient device, it can make you sick and I don’t think it’s worth it.
So, my recommendation is to stock up on the incandescents until the LED light bulbs become more affordable and better quality. That’s coming.
JUSTIN: So, with the compact fluorescents, don’t those contain mercury as well? Am I correct on that, or not?
compact fluorescent bulbs do contain mercury. The mercury is not a problem until unwrapped ….. …….16.52 ….breaks the bulb. The mercury is contained within the glass envelope and if you break it and it shatters, or if you drop it and it explodes, some of these light bulbs are not really well made and have exploded, then you have mercury in your home. A light bulb has approximately 5 mg of mercury, which sounds like a very, very small amount, but mercury is an amazing neurotoxin and you don’t to be exposed to any of it. It’s in a vapor state so you basically inhale it when you break the light bulb.
The EPA, if you visit their website they have information on what to do if you break one of these bulbs in your home. The first thing is to open all the windows and walk outside for at least 15 minutes, until the air begins to clears up. If you’ve dropped it on carpeting, unfortunately it absorbs into the carpet and it will be a regular source. If you’ve dropped it on a hardwood floor, you can clean it up. All the material, including the broken glass, can be put into plastic bags and taken to a toxic waste site to be disposed of.
We’re talking about something that really shouldn’t be in your home in the first place with ……..18.08….that can actually break.
JUSTIN: Wow, I recently listened to an interview with Dr. Hal Huggins and he said that 1 atom of mercury is too much exposure.
MAGDA HAVAS: The problem is, is that it gets transformed in your body and if it’s methylated in your body and your digestive system, for example, it can get into your cells. And, if it gets into your brain, then we’ve got some real problem. You certainly don’t want neurotoxins in your body. We have enough with the mercury fillings, which is horrible. One of the things we recommend is that people have their mercury fillings replaced by a doctor who understands how to do them safely. Eating a lot of fish can increase your mercury content as well. There are ways of reducing mercury in your body once you have it, but the best thing is to minimize getting it into your body.
JUSTIN: A lot of people use microwaves. What are your thoughts on the damaging effects of microwaves?
MAGDA HAVAS: Well, there are two aspects of microwaves that are important. One is that microwave radiation does not stay within the microwave oven. I have measured quite a few microwaves, and have only come across one oven that didn’t leak. So, if you’re in a kitchen where you turn on a microwave oven, if you’re within 10-15 feet of it, you’re being exposed to microwave radiation. Even if you’re on the other side of the wall that contains the microwave oven, you’re exposed, because this energy goes through walls. The cell phones are microwave radiation, as we can get a reception inside our house, even though the antenna is outside of the house.
So, one bit of bad news is that microwave ovens leak and it’s best to go as far away from them as possible if you’re going to use it to heat your food. Another concern about microwave ovens is that it ……..20.01…..
Because it’s working at the molecular level, it can destroy enzymes and if you’re eating dead food, then you’re not getting the same nutritional bang for your buck, basically. So, some people refuse to use microwaves for that reason alone, because it adversely effects the quality of food.
I’m less concerned about that aspect because I know less about it. I’m really concerned about the fact that as soon as you turn it on, you’re exposed. And, standing in front of a microwave oven and watching your cup of coffee go around and around, you know when you’re heating it up for the 10th time, is probably not a good idea, because the part of your body that is most sensitive to microwave radiation are your eyes and your testicles. Your eyes are very, very close to that oven and the consequences of that are premature cataract formation, so you don’t want to have that either.
JUSTIN: Didn’t the Russians do a lot of research on microwave radiation and things like that, because I don’t think the Russians use microwaves.
MAGDA HAVAS: The Russians have done research on this for much longer than we have, and they started looking at the therapeutic effects of microwave radiation, so they started at very, very low levels. We started with microwaves looking at the effects of radar and very high levels, for military exposure mostly, and then eventually occupational exposure. The Russian guidelines are 1% of our guidelines. They don’t allow you to be exposed to as high levels as we do. So, our 24-hour exposure, in Russia you can only be exposed to that for 15-minutes a day, whereas we can be exposed to it for 24 hours. Because of their research, they actually didn’t allow their population to use microwave ovens for cooking, they just thought it was too damaging. They still have better guidelines than we do and they certainly know a heck of a lot more about the biological effects, which seems to be the case here in North America.
JUSTIN: That’s fascinating. I wish everyone knew about this information.
We have to take a quick break, but will be right back. We’re with Magda Havas and her website is magdahavas.com, so make sure to check that out. We’ll be right back.
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JUSTIN: Okay, thank you everybody for joining us. We have Magda Havas here, talking about electromagnetic radiation. Magda, I wanted to ask you about some of these things that people have in their houses, dimmer switches. What are some of the effects of those dimmer switches on the lights they have in their rooms.
MAGDA HAVAS: Well, dimmer switches increase the amount of dirty electricity that you have, so as you dim the light, what it’s doing is it’s chalking the electricity to reduce the amount of light you’re getting. This seems to be making some people sick. So, if you happen to be electrically sensitive, the best idea is not to use these dimmer switches or to plug in filters that can reduce them at the electrical outlet.
JUSTIN: Interesting. So, you can measure the effect of the dimmer switches as well, right?
MAGDA HAVAS: Very easily. The meters are inexpensive, approximately $100, give or take. You plug it into an electrical outlet, right close to where your dimmer switch is, and then you turn your dimmer switch up and down and you can see the meter change. It just so happens that some of the dirty electricity that comes into your home through the devices you have, like these dimmer switches and energy efficient light bulbs, can actually go into your neighbor’s home or come into your home from your neighbor’s home. We’ve had people who live close to each other and we’ve had someone change the dimmer switch in their home and we can pick up the reading in the neighbor’s home. So, that’s how much it tends to go along electrical wires. If you’re on the same transformer, you’re sharing some of this dirty electricity as well.
JUSTIN: Wow, that’s fascinating. Recently, I’ve been having the idea that electromagnetic radiation could be similar to what smoking was 30 years ago.
MAGDA HAVAS: Very much so, very much. I think that’s a perfect analogy, in that a lot of doctors are unaware of this and they are using their cell phones. The cell phone industry takes advantage of this. In the past, if you look at any of the old commercials on smoking, you’ll see that doctors recommended Camel for example, which is one of the tactics they used in the past. They’re using the exact same thing today. Even with smoking, there’s direct smoking and there’s something called second-hand smoke, and that’s true with this radiation as well. You know, if you happen to be using your cell phone, it’s like smoking. But if you’re in the same room as someone using their cell phone, or if you happen to live near a cell phone antenna, then you’re exposed to second-hand radiation.
JUSTIN: Yes, and I’ve heard that it can even be amplified if you’re with someone who is using a cell phone, in a train, car or maybe a plane, right?
MAGDA HAVAS: That’s right. Metal objects reflect the radiation, so the more metal you have around you, the more reflection you’re exposed to. For example, you asked about the microwave oven earlier. If your kitchen happens to have stainless steel appliances, then your exposure to microwaves is going to be higher when you turn on your microwave oven, simply because of the reflection.
If you happen to sleep in a bed that has metal frames, or a spring mattress with coils in it, and you’re exposed to radiation from other sources, then those coils act like antennas and increase your exposure. That’s one of the reasons that your bedroom should be as clean as possible, electromagnetically, so that you have minimal exposure while you’re sleeping and rejuvenating.
JUSTIN: What you said right there just made me think of when people have metal in their mouth, like braces or fillings. Do those types of things act as a conduit for electricity.
MAGDA HAVAS: They do, and actually there’s two really important points here. If you happen to have braces, and they’re metal braces rather than plastic or some other compound, that wave will cause the microwave to be verbally in your head and will increase the exposure to your skull. So, young kids who have braces and are holding a cell phone up to their head, is probably the worst thing they could possibly do.
I have a story about this. There was a young girl who was attending a private school in Toronto and she passed out in the hallway while she was talking to friends. She had never had any health issues of any concern, and, a few days later it happened again in the same hallway and it turned out that her head was very close to one of the wireless routers, the WiFi routers they had in the school, and, she had a mouth full of braces. Her parents had the braces removed and replaced with non-metalic braces and now she is fine, although they don’t like her being exposed to this radiation, for obvious reasons.
Regarding fillings, if you happen to have mercury fillings in your mouth, the mercury is actually mobilized. It dissolves when you have microwave radiation exposure. We found this out because a friend of mine had the unfortunate duty of serving in Vietnam, and he was dealing with radio frequencies there. One of the things he told me that the radar operators have to have their fillings replaced, the mercury amalgam fillings, every six months, because the mercury would dissolve and the filling would become loose. It wasn’t because they had bad dentists there, it was simply because of what they were exposed to.
There have been a number of studies now showing that mercury levels will increase in your saliva after an MRI scan, magnetic resonance imaging scan, and it will increase in your urine if you use a cell phone, simply because you’re mobilizing more of it.
JUSTIN: Golly….now what do you make of all the pregnant women who have their cells phone on them. I’ve seen women who are sitting down at a coffee shop and have their iphone next to their belly. What’s happening to the child in the womb, do you think, from being exposed to that?
MAGDA HAVAS: Well, we know that the fetus is very, very sensitive, especially during the early stages when the major organs are developing. Doctors will tell their patients not to smoke, not to take drugs and not to drink alcohol while they’re pregnant. One other thing they should tell them is not to use any kind of wireless device while they’re pregnant, or to minimize the use and certainly to keep it as far away from the fetus as possible. This should just be regular practice now.
JUSTIN: Hopefully, it’s become more main stream, but it doesn’t seem like it when you’re out in the world and you just kind of watch what’s going on.
I want to ask you about the role of electromagnetic radiation and blood sugar, because I’ve heard that it has an effect on your blood sugar levels.
MAGDA HAVAS: We’ve actually done some work with some diabetics. When I got into this, I came from a chemical toxicology background, so I had to learn everything from scratch. It was a very …….30.17…..believe me.
This is fairly complex physics and fairly complex biology, the biological changes that are happening in your body. I listened to people, as that was where I was getting my information. One of the things I was told, is that some diabetics have problems regulating their blood sugar and the blood sugar seems to spike when they’re exposed to this radiation. I thought that this is great information and is something that’s very easy to test, because we know how to measure blood sugar.
So, I began to work with diabetics. One of the people we worked with, I think this is a really good case example, was a woman in New York who was electrically sensitive. She was also a type-2 diabetic. She regulated her blood sugar to exercise, so she wasn’t yet on any medication. We had her do different things, so if she walked for 20 minutes, her blood sugar came down to normal. It didn’t matter how high it was, it came to a normal level. So, walking was a really good way for her to regulate her blood sugar. On days that she didn’t feel like going outside and walking, she would work out on her treadmill and would walk on the treadmill in her basement. And, whenever she’d get back, her blood sugar would spike. So, instead of going down, it would actually go up. This is contrary to our understanding of what should be happening, because you’re exercising your body, it requires the sugar for energy, so it should be burning the sugar rather than increasing it.
It turns out that some diabetics are also electrically hypersensitive and this produces stress on the body. When a diabetic patient is stressed, whether it’s physical stress or emotional stress, the way they respond is their blood sugar goes up rather than down. So, the doctors who are prescribing exercise to their patients who are diabetic, thinking that they’re doing good, should actually tell them to exercise in a clean environment and to minimize their use of any kind of technology that’s plugged in, because that might have the opposite effect. It turns out that you can actually use this to determine if you’re electrically sensitive. So, if you are diabetic and your working out on a treadmill and your blood sugar goes ……..32.34 inaudible…..chances are you’re not sensitive. If it perks up or doesn’t move and stays high, then you probably are electrically sensitive……..
..32.35 …diagnostic.
JUSTIN: So, in what other ways do you think it effects the body, I guess it’s hard to say, other than leukemia and blood sugar …….32.53….diabetes, but what other ways do you think it has an effect on the body?
MAGDA HAVAS: Well, we’ve also worked with people who have multiple sclerosis. There was a school in Wisconsin that had, what we would now call ‘sick building syndrome’. The students were constantly ill and the teachers were constantly complaining and the School Board basically did nothing about it for quite a long time. The teachers threatened to call the Union then, because the symptoms were really quite severe. When these people went home and when they were away on the weekend, or during the sumnmer, many of their illesses went away, so they realized it had something to do with the school. And so the school decided to take this seriously and what they did is that they cleaned up the chemicals and the mold and other types of toxins in the environment. The teachers and students came back in September and they got sick again. So, whatever was causing the problem was not removed with this cleanup.
So, they called in a power quality expert and he measured the power qualities and said that it was high and that it was bad. He plugged in filters to improve it. These are special filters that you can use inside buildings. The utility is aware of filtering no power quality when they have a problem, so this is technology that has been around for a very long time. So, he cleaned up the power quality and what was fascinating was that in the school they had a number of students who had asthma and required inhalers on a daily basis. They stopped using their inhalers, so that’s one of the other things that seems to have an effect on asthma. And, if you know that young people, the rate of asthma is really quite severe, even though we haven’t had worsening of air quality, which is what we tend to associate asthma with.
So, that was one of the improvements and the other was that the teachers were saying they had few headaches, they had more energy, and overall, people were feeling much better. One of the principals in the school had multiple sclerosis and her symtoms were very severe, and she was actually planning on retiring at the end of that school year, because her mind wasn’t functioning and she had physical problems as well. She said she couldn’t remember the names of her students on bad days, and she realized she couldn’t remain being a teacher. Her MS cleared up and her symptoms went away. They only came back when she re-exposed herself.
So, I thought I had to work with people who had multiple sclerosis and they have all sorts of different neurological symptoms. We cleaned up their homes and we documented their symptoms and after the first three people I worked with, their improvements were so dramatic that I couldn’t believe the results, and I was seeing them. I thought that there’s no way anyone is going to believe this, because they were very rapid and really quite significant. So, I began to videotape them and I would videotape them before we cleaned up their home environment and then after. These people were so adversely effected by MS, that they spent 24 hours a day at home. They very rarely went out and they didn’t have the ability to work.
we cleaned up their environment and within days, in some cases, and within weeks in others, they were walking and they stopped using their canes, their tremors went away, they were thinking clearly, they were able to sleep at night, their energy came back and they went off antidepressants. I mean, the results were absolutely dramatic. So, we got a proposal in to the MS Society to see if we could actually repeat this with a larger sample and do it in a blinder fashion. I don’t think this is a psychosomatic response, the results were too dramatic. But to really minimize that from a scientific research perspective and see what we get, but the results were really amazing.
So, it helps people who are diabetic. Some people who are diabetic also have to be electrically sensitive. It helps some people who have MS, also have to be electrically sensitive. Not every MS patient we worked with improved to that degree. So, what we need to determine is what percentage of the population is responding adversely to these frequencies and what can we do to mitigate their exposure and improve their health.
JUSTIN: It scares me when I look out and see these cell towers next to schools and I see pregnant women with iphones. It’s just crazy.
We have to take another break and when we get back, we’ve kind of laid the ground work as to why these things are so bad and how they effect the body. In the next segment, I want to talk a little about what we can do to mitigate some of these things. And. there’s lot of different things we can do, right?
MAGDA HAVAS: Right.
JUSTIN: we’ll take a short break. We’re with Magda Havas and she runs a website called magdahavas.com, so make sure to check that out. We’ll be right back.
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Okay, let’s get back to this interview. We are with Magda Havas at magdahavas.com so make sure to check out her website for more information. One last thing Magda, I want to start focusing on some of the positive things that we can do. One final thing I wanted to ask you about cell phones and things like that. I’ve been able to determine, after looking into this for a few years, is that the radiation actually breaks down the blood brain barriers, to especially children. Is that true, or is that something I just read?
MAGDA HAVAS: That is true. One of the critical things is that the blood brain barriers really protect the brain from any kind of chemicals that shouldn’t be going in there, and one of the things we found is that there is an increase in the permeability. This information is now so well accepted, but it is being used clinically. In a clinical environment, if you’re trying to get a drug into the brain, it’s hard to get it in there because of the blood brain barrier, so what doctors are actually doing is that they’re exposing the brain to microwave radiation first, which opens up the blood brain barrier and then they deliver the medication. So, it’s being used therapeutically to help under certain circumstances.
JUSTIN: So, now that it can also be used in a good way, this is also causing harm to be done to people’s brains, right, from the radiation itself. So, it opens up that barrier and then the frequencies get in and do all kinds of damage to the brain. Is that how it works?
MAGDA HAVAS: Well, the frequencies can get in anyway, because the frequencies can penetrate through the skull. What we don’t want are other chemicals getting into the brain, and that’s what the blood brain barrier does, it allows chemicals that shouldn’t be in there to get in there. And so, by holding the cell phone to your head, you’re actually increasing potentially harmful chemicals getting into your brain. So, that’s some of the reasons you shouldn’t be putting the cell phone to your head. But, there are other ways of using your cell phone, simply by moving it away, text and do various things like that.
JUSTIN: Okay, and now I want to talk a little bit about some of the positive things we can do. I have a grounding mat here, but I have no idea about it. I just got it because I heard it was a good thing, but I’ve been learning recentl that there are times when the grounding mat may not be a good thing. Can you tell us a little bit about what grounding does?
MAGDA HAVAS: Sure. In the past, people used to walk outside a lot more, they didn’t travel in cars, they walked to places. They didn’t always have their feet covered, and they were much more in contact and closer to the earth. Now we live in high-rise buildings, we’re in cars all the time, so we’re disconnected from the earth. If you walk barefoot on grass with dew on it, you’re getting a really good ground connection, and you’re equilibrating your body to the earth for the amount of electrons you have in your body, so you’re grounding. This is called grounding yourself. And normally, this is a really, really good thing to do. That’s what the grounding mat attempts to do.
In the areas where you have a ground current problem, which means that there is too much electricity flowing through the ground, if you stand barefoot in one of those areas, then this nasty radiation is coming into your body, and it flows up one leg and down the other leg. This what has been causing problems on farms with dairy cattle, pigs and various other animals.
So, using grounding would normally be a good thing, unless you have a ground current problem. The way the grounding mats are used, you can either plug a metal rod into the ground and ground it that way. That would be the best way to use them, or you attach it to the ground in your electrical circuit, and that’s not the best way to use them. The reason for that is your electrical ground in your socket is actually attached to the neutral to your electrical panel. At the electrical panel, your neutral and your ground are bonded. So, you can have things going onto the ground that can go into your body. Depending on any kinds of errors you have in the grounding system in y our building, or dirty power that you might have and that can actually get into your body. You have to use the grounding technology intelligently.
What I tell people is, if you’re using it and you’re noticing a benefit, you are probably okay. If you use it and you’re noticing that it’s not making you feel any better or you’re actually feeling worse, then chances are you’ve got a ground current problem and you shouldn’t use that technology in that environment.
JUSTIN: Is that because there’s actual frequencies that the power companies, don’t they try to use the ground to get some of their currencies going back to them?
MAGDA HAVAS: That’s right. The electrical utility, you know the wires we have there, the power lines, many of them in some communities were built 50-60-70 years ago and they weren’t designed for our electronic components. That’s one of the problems we’re having. We had a line designed for totally different kind of use. Let me just go back a few steps. You have to have a circuit in order to have electrons flowing. So, you have something called hot wires and you have something called a neutral. If you look at any kind of light that has two prongs, one is the hot and one is the neutral and it sets up a circuit, just like you have in a battery, for example. You have to have both ends connected before you can light a light. What’s happening is that the neutral wire that we have with power lines, doesn’t have the capacity for it complete that circuit, so what the electrical utility has done is that they have taken that neutral wire and they have run another wire and they’ve grounded it. This is on your pole. You can actually see them on some of the poles. What they’re doing is that they’re putting the electricity into the ground to come back and complete that circuit.
Basically, what you have is that the ground becomes another wire in your circuit and this is what’s causing the problems. What they should have done, is they should have increased the capacity of that neutral by having another wire or by having a thicker wire. This is much more costly, so they have taken the cheap route. Because of that, it’s caused all sorts of problems.
I was just at a meeting a little while ago, and I was talking to health and safety people from the electric utility, and one of the engineers came up to me, one of the linemen, came up to me and said we well ground the neutral to reduce ground current or………45.59…..voltage. He didn’t even understand why they were doing it. They’re not doing it for that reason. What they’re actually doing is increasing the problem, rather than reducing it. So, you have a technical lack of knowledge among some of the people who should be experts in this field, which is really quite disturbing.
JUSTIN: Yes, so those people are actually working for the companies and they don’t even have any idea.
MAGDA HAVAS: They don’t understand, which I found to be quite amazing.
JUSTIN: Okay, so with grounding it could be extremely beneficial, but you just have to do it correctly, right?
MAGDA HAVAS: Exactly, it’s like with anything. If you do it correctly and understand what the parameters are, when it works and when it doesn’t, then you can use it intelligently. Some people have made amazing recovery after they have ground themselves. I know that some of the engineers and electronic experts, when you’re working on some sort of electronic equipment, you have to have a ground band on, as you don’t want any kind of sparks to interfere with what you’re doing, as it could actually destroy the component your’re working on. So, they are constantly ground. But in some occupations, you’re not grounded and it’s almost like you’ve charged up. If you work on a computer all day, for example, and you’re touching the keyboard, you’re connected to the circuit, and those electrons move through your body. The can actually accumulate in your body.
One of the things you can do to discharge yourself is to take some metal foil, you know aluminium foil will work, and stand on it barefoot and this will draw the electrons out of your body, so you don’t have an excess charge. That’s what grounding does as well. So, you don’t have to connect yourself all night long to a grounding mat in your bed. You can simply discharge yourself with any kind of metal object over a few minutes.
JUSTIN: So you would just maybe stand on, let’s say you’re in a high-rise building working all day, or maybe you live in a high-rise, you can stand on some tinfoil maybe for a couple of minutes?
MAGDA HAVAS: Exactly. The only thing you want to be careful of, if you’re in an apartment building, for example, don’t do it under a light, because that light is actually in the apartment below and it’s a source of exposure.
JUSTIN: There’s so much to think about. I tend to think that this electromagnet radiation and all these frequencies we’re being exposed to, seems to be like a low level stress on your immune system that eventually will just wear your immune system out sooner than it would normally.
MAGDA HAVAS: That’s exactly right and you know the things we tell people to do, who are exposed and feeling adverse effects, and if you want to minimize those adverse effects, there’s a number of things you can do. The first thing is to minimize your exposure, so you have to measure it as best you possibly can. If you have wireless technology in your home, you don’t have to necessarily measure it, just get rid of it and replace it with something wired. The cordless phones for example, radiate 24/7 whether you’re using them or not. You know that big cradle that you put your phone in, is producing microwave radiation all the time, even when you’re not using it. So, that has to be removed and replaced with something wired. Smart meters that are being placed on homes now, are making people sick.
You have to try to minimize your exposure as much as possible and that can include replacing the technology or putting up shielding material that is available now, so the technology is really being prevented, the counter measures are being made available to people. The first thing you do is minimize your exposure.
The second thing you need to do is build up your immune system, because it does exactly what you said, it just wears you down. Once your immune system is worn down, then you become susceptible to all kinds of secondary problems, you know infection, your colds last a long time and you just simply don’t recover. You feel tired all the time, because your body is so busy trying to keep homeostasis and it’s probably losing the battle.
The third thing you need to do, once you’ve built up your immune system, and that would be with proper nutrition, exercise and sleep, and all the good things we know work. The other thing you need to do is that you have to detoxify your body, and you do that third, because your body won’t be able to take the toxic release load if you do it too early. You do that with saunas and various other methods, chelation therapy if it’s very, very severe.
Those are three things, reduce your exposure, build up your immune and then detoxify your body. Then you’re able to tolerate it without symptoms. It doesn’t mean you should tolerate it, but at least it means your asymptomatic.
JUSTIN: For our listeners out there who are probably working like I am at a computer all day, I’ve heard, I forget who it was, talk about some sort of like rock dust, I forget what the substance was that he would put around all of the electrical equipment. Have you heard anything about, I know it’s not rock dust, but it might be something similar to that. Do you know anything about that.
MAGDA HAVAS: No, I’m afraid I don’t. I don’t know exactly what you’re referring to.
JUSTIN: Gosh, so it’s a really difficult thing to figure out how much you’re being exposed to and how to mitigate it. Now, I’ve heard also that there are things like special types of shirts, and you mentioned before about paint you can put on your walls. Do they mitigate the electricity in the sense that when the radiation hits it, it diffuses it or does it just reflect it. How do some of those things work?
MAGDA HAVAS: First of all, there is film that you can put on your windows. If you happen to live where there is a cell tower across the street from you, most of the radiation is going to come in through the glass, although some will come through the wall as well, so by simply covering the glass with the film, I think 3M produces, you can reduce your exposure considerably that way. A lot of these products really, really do work. Or you could put fabric on your windows, it’s a translucent gauze like fabric that has silver fiber in it. The silver reflects the radiation and both of these cases are reflecting the radiation, so it’s not coming in.
The problem is, if you make curtains and put them on your windows or on your walls and you have a source that’s in your home, then you’re actually increasing your exposure, right, because it’s reflecting it back towards you.
JUSTIN: I see.
MAGDA HAVAS: You have to be able to measure, or have someone professionally install these things, and measure them based on your specific environment. Many people tend to want to have a clean sleeping environment, so what they will do is that they will make a canopy that goes around their bed, using this silver fabric. They just put it all around their bed and it’s almost like they’re in a faraday cage, the outside and the top and the bottom, so you have to totally enclose yourself, and they sleep like that, minimizing their exposure during the night and that will actually help them quite a bit.
Depending on what your source is, you have different types of mitigation strategies. There’s also paint available. It’s a black carbon paint and it will do the same thing. It will block the radiation. It has to be grounded, so you have to have a little metal strip that you attach to the wall and ground to your electrical power supply. to draw the electrically way to ground, as it will build up a charge if you don’t do it that way. There’s clothing you can buy. The clothing was first developed in China, because they have the one child policy, and they wanted to ensure that that one child was going to be healthy. So, the women who were working began to use aprons that had the silver fiber in them. Then, they decided that they really wanted something more than just a grey apron and they began to make clothing. You can either buy the material and have the clothing done here. You can buy underwear for example, and that way you can keep your cell phone in your hip pocket because the fabric is actually protecting your body.
JUSTIN: What do you make of some of the stuff that you can see on …….54.14…..website. They have some good products as far as I know. What do you make of some of that stuff?
MAGDA HAVAS: Well, I tested their products and that was before I met …….54.22….. and I mentioned to you that we work with diabetics and people with multiple sclerosis. It was his filters that we were using that made the difference. I totally vouch for his filters. It took me a long time to get to the point where I would recommend them in public, because people would think I’m getting a kickback or something when I’m promoting a product. I have to sort of go through this kind of mental exercise, you know do the filters work, and my answer to that was ‘yes’ based on our research. Do you want people to benefit and improve, and the answer was ‘yes’. So I actually decided I was going to come out pubically and talk about the filters. They really do work, and I know there are a lot of copies now, and I have no idea if they work, as I haven’t tested them. So, I can’t vouch for anything other than the ones I’ve tested myself, and for your listeners, I don’t get any kind of kickback at all. I can’t because of my objectivity. So, products that do work, I recommend to people and I don’t benefit financially from any of them. I know that the fabric works, the film works and I know the paint works. We’ve measured it and I know the filters work as well.
It was those filters that were placed in the school in Wisconsin that benefitted the students with asthma. So, this is really a technology that is there, it works and it’s really quite amazing.
JUSTIN: It’s almost as if we are trying to relicate something that’s more natural, because our environments are so unnatural, not just from the EMFs but from the toxins inside the house. Basically, we’re just trying to replicate something much more natural that we’re supposed to be living in.
MAGDA HAVAS: That’s right. The more natural we live, I think the healthier we become. So, going into environments, swimming in the ocean where you’ve got beautiful salt water and you’re not near a sewage disposal site, those are the best things that we can do for ourselves, I think.
JUSTIN: We have to wrap up here, but I wanted to ask you, in what direction are you headed? Are you working on any new projects or working on your website? What kinds of things are you working on?
MAGDA HAVAS: I’m working on two different things. One is I’m working with people who have developed this electrosensitivy. We think that probably one-third of the population is adversely effected to some degree in a minor way, and if we can get doctors to properly diagnose these people and they can make changes in their home environment, their health can improve. Basically, we’ve got a population in North America that is chronically ill. The amount of prescription drugs that people are taking is astromical. and we need to change that. We need to get them living more healthy.
The other thing I’m looking at is that I’m beginning to study the beneficial effects of pulsed electromagnetic fields. We know that certain frequencies are harmful, there’s absolutely no doubt about that, but certain frequencies are actually beneficial. Some of these have been used for decades to heal bone fractures. I recently attended a laser workshop, where they were using it for wounds and the healing of wounds is incredible. The rate of healing and the fact that it reduces pain, particularly for things like burns. So, using electromagnetic energy and light energy as a method of healing and I honestly believe that this is going to be the medical technology of the future. This and stem cells I think can make a huge difference in the health of a lot of individuals.
JUSTIN: Speaking of stem cells, we just had Dr. David Steenbock on and he’s a stem cell researcher and doctor here in California. I agree.
MAGDA HAVAS: I listened to that interview and it was absolutely excellent. I just came back from a workshop in Thailand that was also on stem cells and the results were truly amazing. They were actually able to help Down Syndrome kids with stem cells, to the point where their facial features begin to normalize. Not only do they improve cognitively, but they physically change. It’s absolutely amazing research. So that, plus electromagnetic therapies, and their various forms, are really a better way to go than pharmaceutical.
JUSTIN: It’s so exciting what’s going on. There’s one final question which I didn’t get to and I know some our listeners maybe thinking about this. Are there people out there, like you, that someone could hire, for example, if they think that this is all very complex, could someone just come out to my house and fix it? Are there people out there who do that?
MAGDA HAVAS: Yes, there are. There’s a group called ‘the Building Biologists’ or Bau Biologist. They startedin Germany and they are now quite active in North America. You can look them up and hire one of them to come out and do measurements. They are very good at radiofrequency radiation and low frequency electromagnetic fields. They are not good with the ground current and the dirty electricy. The dirty electricity is actually easy enough for you to measure, with $100 meter and a $35 filter. That is something that you could do yourself, but for the other ones I would hire one of the Building Biologists, just local. I think you can go onto their website and it will tell you who is in which community.
JUSTIN: It’s probably buildingbiologists.com or something like that?
MAGDA HAVAS: I don’t have their website handy, so I can’t give it to you. If you do a google search for ‘building biologists’ that should find it for you.
JUSTIN: Excellent, and thank you so much. Would you mind holding on while I close out the show?
MAGDA HAVAS: No, it would be my pleasure.
JUSTIN: Excellent, thank you. Thank you so much everybody for joining us. I really, really appreciate you spending some time today listening to your show. I hope you learned a lot of information and maybe you can take a couple of these nuggets and improve your life in some way.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 49min
Dr. Richard Massey – Coronavirus From A Recall Healing Perspective
Dr. Richard Massey joined us today to talk about the coronavirus from a recall healing perspective.
For those of you that are new to Extreme Health Radio we talk about Recall Healing quite a lot. The idea behind recall healing (and there are other spiritual/emotional views as well like German New Medicine, Timeline Therapy, Gestalt Therapy, The Emotion Code, Emotional Freedom Technique etc) is that all disease is caused by a spiritual or emotional trauma that must be properly dealt with in order for the biology to restore itself.
What does that mean?
It means that every human disease has a trauma or shock associated with it. The disease is not therefore the tumor or the heart attack, it’s the stress and trauma that came before it.
If you can heal what came before it, the body will normalize and “let go” of the “need” to create a tumor or a heart attack.
The results are quite astonishing and I highly encourage you to explore Recall Healing in your own life and health journey.
So in this show, we talked about viruses and specifically COVID-19 or the Wuhan Virus or the coronavirus.
Are viruses real? Have we seen a virus under a microscope? Have we seen a virus do what they say a virus does? Are viruses alive? Can viruses spread and do they cause death?
We tackle all these virus related questions and more from a Recall Healing perspective with my friend and mentor Dr. Richard Massey.
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When I went to medical school, I was trained to observe the patient’s symptoms, and map it to an illness in my textbook. When I first encountered the idea that the body could actually be welcoming the dis-ease, I was reluctant to accept it.
The notion that the body would welcome disease, made no sense until I realized that the subconscious mind actually creates conditions in the body in order to welcome an ailment in order to highlight to the conscious mind that there’s a blockagee of love. (video of Meridian discussing testicular cancer) This means, in our school – unlike a western medical school – the ailment isn’t the problem. Instead it’s a signal from the subconscious to the concious that there’s an unaddressed obstacle to love. Freud demonstrated this with one of his most famous patients.
In medical schools, doctors are taught to quickly eradicate – often with antibiotics, the dis-ease. Given the illness is actually a metaphor for some life or family history situation where love was (and is still being) blocked – if you destroy it before you know the deeper reason, the dis-ease will likely manifest in a new form to try again to communicate.
Having graduated medical school, I can report first-hand that they don’t acknowledge or care to explore the deeper (spiritual, psychological, metaphorical) reason for disease. Our school’s approach, similar to shaman training, has pracitioners learn to investigate the deeper why. When I was a doctor, like most doctors, I was often overbooked and needed to bill an insurance company. This is why we’re trained to quickly name the patient’s mallady something in the billing database, and prescribe something to eradicate the situation. As a result, the deeper meaning isn’t likely to be revealed.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 14min
Jim Humble – Is MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution) The Answer To All Of Your Health Issues?
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If you’re not familiar with MMS or Miracle Mineral Solution (it has also been called Master Miracle Supplement) you just might want to look into this substance if you’re dealing with any chronic degenerative diseases or health conditions.
MMS is a mixture of two substances citric acid and sodium chlorite which then creates a solution called chlorine dioxide or stabilized oxygen. According to Mr. Jim Humble this stabilized oxygen formula in the form of chlorine dioxide doesn’t kill any beneficial flora or bacteria in your gut. But it does kill viruses, bacteria, parasites, fungus and gets rid of heavy metals in the body.
Can you start to see the problem the FDA would have with MMS? It could potentially put an end to entire billion dollar industries (here’s a hint…think cancer). Because what disease do you know of that isn’t flat out caused by the presence of these pathogens or has some relationship with them.
Here are a few I can think of…Autism, malaria, hepatitis, herpes, candida, dandruff, cancer, flu, colds, arthritis, topical burns, warts, skin infections, teeth issues and these are just a few health conditions that MMS might be good for.
Now I have to warn you MMS is VERY powerful stuff. In fact the FDA calls it “industrial bleach” that will kill you. It’s my contention that the FDA is simply scared about the word getting out surrounding MMS. Do you really think the FDA really cares about your health or my health? I don’t think so.
But the point is that MMS is incredibly strong and smells like you’re swimming in a pool or you just breathed in the chlorine tablets we used to put into our backyard pools.
The smell really becomes overwhelming after a while and I started using the capsule method because I couldn’t stand the taste or smell. I did notice a herxheimer reaction or what someone might call a healing response. Perhaps I was killing off too many bugs and poisons at one time.
Because of my aversion to the chemical, gas type smell that MMS creates when it becomes activated in the citric acid, I started taking it in capsules and that was really much better.
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The melanoma issue was in the last week, btw.I have had a couple of medium sized spots on my forehead since a few years back… Became sensitive and sore this year. Possibly melanoma? The MMS guy here in Oz said to dab them with an MMS soaked cotton bud. I did…. One dropped off 2days later!!!! The other after 5 days. Only applied MMS 3 times. Been using hemp oil daily on my forehead and now skin smooth and healthy.
Sorry to repeat myself, but I am anxious to know if MMS can tackle Dengue? I often go diving in the Philippines and know that it causes children there in the tens of thousands to get sick every year. Due to the enormous poverty the family budget is ripped apart by the illness.
I’m sure Jim could say a lot about and in answer to Stephen Hines and Spyrokeets? If MMS can cure Malaria in the blood then perhaps Spyrokeets too? And other organisms? Please be sure to ask! We all get bitten then think nothing about it. Yet we could be suffering and not make the connection.
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The story of how MMS began
Jim’s response to the FDA
Many different protocols for using MMS safely and effectively
What happened to Project Green Life
Whether you can use MMS on babies, during pregnancy or on animals
How MMS works on staph infections
How to manage the taste of MMS
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How MMS kills bacteria
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Aerospace engineer Jim Humble’s third career started accidentally while on a gold prospecting trip in the jungle of Venezuela. There, using stabilized oxygen, he improvised an effective remedy for his colleagues who were stricken with malaria. As curious as he had always been in his life, he returned to his native US and wondered why the cure had worked so well.
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The answers to his own questions led him to the development of a more powerful form of oxygen therapy, chlorine dioxide, which he called Miracle Mineral Supplement. With a mission to help the human race whatever he did, Jim made it widely available in the form of sodium chlorite which the user ‘activated’ by adding lemon juice or vinegar – and medical teams conducted 100,000 research trials in Africa where it was found that MMS would frequently relieve the symptoms of malaria in as little as four hours.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 24min
Patrick McKeown – The Buteyko Method – The Benefits Of Deep Breathing For Anxiety, Long Life & Better Health
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Patrick McKeown from the Buteyko Method to talk about all the benefits of deep breathing for anxiety and why breathing through your nose using the Buteyko Method is so important for your health.
Breathing through your nose actually helps to produce nitric oxide in the body and it’s amazing because when you breathe through your nose like we’re anatomically designed, it increases oxygenation inside our blood and increases circulation.
Nose breathing is also great for the teeth. When we mouth breathe all night in bed for example, we dry out our mouth by drooling. When your teeth do not have adequete saliva, there’s no ability for the body to fight against bacteria growing on your teeth, hence cavities.
If you let those cavities grow you might be influenced to get a root canal further damaging your health in the process. As we know from all the guests in our dental section, each tooth (accordin to Traditional Chinese Medicine aka TCM) reflexes through a complex set of meridian system to specific organs. Those organs also reflex back to that tooth.
The dangers of mouth breathing are endless but also the benefits of nose breathing using the Buteyko Method are equally as beneftial for your health and well being.
In this show with Patrick McKeown we get into the details and nuances of how breathing (taking in oxygen) impacts our cells, DNA, mitochondria and more.
Who knew respiration would be so impactful to our longevity and health? Don’t you think we should be taught how to breathe in school?
It’s so simple but yet so important and yet so overlooked even in the natural health community.
I hope you enjoy this show with Patrick McKeown about the Buteyko Method and how breathing properly will help improve your health!
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Patrick McKeown is a graduate of Trinity College Dublin. In 2002, Patrick completed his clinical training in the Buteyko Breathing Method at the Buteyko Clinic, Moscow, Russia. This training was accredited by Professor Konstantin Buteyko. Having suffered from asthma, rhinitis and sleep-disordered breathing for over 20 years, Patrick is able to offer both theoretical knowledge and his own experiences to help clients to overcome similar challenges. To date, Patrick has written seven books and produced two DVD sets on the Buteyko Method, including three Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk bestsellers: Close Your Mouth, Asthma-Free Naturally, and Anxiety Free: Stop Worrying and Quieten your Mind. The Buteyko self-help manual Close Your Mouth has been translated into ten different languages including French, German, Italian, Spanish, Norwegian and Russian. His latest book is titled “The Oxygen Advantage” and improves sports performance by addressing dysfunctional breathing patterns and simulating high altitude training.
Patrick is Clinical Director of the Buteyko Clinic International and Chairman of its Advisory Board. Patrick’s professional memberships include Fellow of The Royal Society of Biology, Full member of the Physiological Society and Academy of Applied Myofunctional Sciences. Patrick holds regular workshops and talks on dysfunctional breathing in nine countries including the USA, Canada, Australia, Israel, Denmark, France, Holland, the UK, and his native Ireland. He has trained Buteyko practitioners from 32 countries and regularly provides online.
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