

The PricePlow Podcast
Supplement Industry Thought Leaders
The PricePlow Podcast is the premiere supplement industry podcast, co-hosted by Mike and Ben. We interview various sports nutrition professionals, athletes, and researchers, and entrepeneurs to advance knowledge in active and sports nutrition. As a supplement-centric platform, most of our episodes revolve around sports nutrition supplements and performance enhancement, but we won’t limit our guests to that! Videos, write-ups, and citations can be found at the accompanying blog posts on https://blog.PricePlow.com/podcast
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Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 41min
#187: Strom Sports & PLT Health - UK vs US Supplement Standards and Strategies
On Episode #187 of the PricePlow Podcast, we welcome Richard Foster (founder of Strom Sports UK) and Dean Harris (president of Strom Sports US) for an in-depth discussion filmed at PLT Health Solutions headquarters in Morristown, New Jersey. Joined by PLT’s Steve Fink (who first joined us in Episode #146), this marks the podcast’s first deep dive into the UK supplement market and the transatlantic differences in formulation philosophy, regulatory frameworks, and consumer expectations.
Richard brings 19 years of industry experience building Strom from a UK supplement shop into a global brand focused on performance athletes, while Dean shares insights from bringing the brand to American consumers. The conversation explores why UK health products often exceed US standards despite America’s more permissive approach to stimulants, how branded ingredients like ApresFlex and CellFlo6 deliver superior results compared to generic alternatives, and why the supplement industry is entering its “golden age” of science-backed innovation.
Whether you’re interested in international market dynamics, ingredient science, or the future of supplement formulation, this episode delivers valuable insights from both sides of the Atlantic.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/strom-sports-plt-health-187
Video: Strom Sports UK/US at PLT Health Solutions – International Supplement Market Insights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVkhvOkyiVc
Detailed Show Notes
(0:00) – Welcome to PLT Health Solutions
Where to Follow Strom Sports and PLT Health Solutions
Strom Sports UK: stromsports.com
Strom Sports US: stromsportsus.com
Strom Sports US Instagram: @stromsportsnutritionus
Richard Foster on LinkedIn: Richard Foster
PLT Health Solutions: plthealth.com
PLT Health Solutions on LinkedIn: @plthealth
PLT Health Solutions news on PricePlow: https://www.priceplow.com/plt-health#news
Thanks to Richard, Dean, and Steve for this fascinating international perspective on supplement formulation, ingredient innovation, and market dynamics! Read our recent coverage: Beyond Pain Relief: Why This UK Supplement Brand Chose ApresFlex.
Subscribe to the PricePlow Podcast on any platform, sign up for PLT Health Solutions news alerts on PricePlow, and leave us a great review on iTunes and Spotify!

Oct 22, 2025 • 56min
#186: Marc Lobliner - Why goBHB Will Be Bigger Than Creatine
For Episode #186 of the PricePlow Podcast, we welcome back Marc Lobliner, who returns with major news: he’s now President of Ketone Labs. Marc brings his signature energy and bold predictions to discuss why he believes goBHB will become bigger than creatine in the supplement industry.
Since we last formally spoke with Marc on the podcast in October 2021 (Episode #053), he’s not just launching products like the Outright Bar, but is taking the helm at Ketone Labs. This isn’t just another business venture for Marc — he’s calling goBHB a “transformative ingredient” that will change everything from athletic performance to concussion prevention to overall health.
Marc discusses the real-world applications he’s implementing, including concussion protocols for his own kids in football and wrestling, the differences between D-BHB and L-BHB isomers, and why he believes healthier individuals experience more pronounced effects from ketone supplementation. He also shares candid insights about product development timelines, legal challenges in the supplement industry (including those infamous Prop 65 warnings), and his vision for making goBHB as ubiquitous as creatine.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/marc-lobliner-gobhb-186
Video: Marc Lobliner on goBHB, Ketone Labs, and the Future of Supplements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-US7QIKl7U
Detailed Show Notes with Marc
(0:00) – Welcome Back, Marc “The Machine” Lobliner
(2:00) – Balancing Multiple Ventures
(5:45) – Concussion Protocols for Young Athletes
(8:45) – Safety Profile: No LD50 for BHB
(10:00) – The One Three Butanediol Problem
(12:15) – The Plan for goBHB: Clinical and Consumer Applications
(15:00) – Product Applications Across Categories
(18:00) – The Sleep Study Discovery
(20:45) – Product Development Timelines in Supplements
(23:45) – The Outright Bar Story: Lessons in Distribution
(30:30) – Legal Landmines in the Supplement Industry
(31:45) – The California Problem: Prop 65 and Beyond
(34:25) – Media Bias and Heavy Metals Testing
(36:30) – Major Studies with Dr. Jose Antonio
(39:00) – White Glove Formulation Services
(41:00) – D-BHB vs L-BHB: The Ketone Meter Paradox
(44:45) – L-BHB and Cardiovascular Research
(45:45) – The Anabolic Properties of BHB
(49:30) – Why Healthier People Feel It More
(50:15) – The Niacin Parallel
(51:30) – Marc’s Passion and Work-Life Balance
(52:45) – Training Schedule and Competitive Future
(55:00) – Formulating the Perfect BHB Powder
(55:30) – What’s Next: Supply Side and Beyond
Where to Find Marc Lobliner and Ketone Labs
Marc Lobliner on Twitter and Instagram: @MarcLobliner / @MarcLobliner
Ketone Labs News on PricePlow: https://www.priceplow.com/ketone-labs
Ketone Labs Instagram: @KetoneLabs
Thanks for bringing your trademark energy to the podcast, Marcâwe’ll see …
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Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 23min
#185: Jonathan Baner & James Stone: Making Better-For-You Snacking Better with Glanbia Nutritionals
On Episode #185 of the PricePlow Podcast, Mike and Ben welcome Jonathan Baner (Senior R&D Director) and James Stone (Vice President of Global Marketing and Insights) from Glanbia Nutritionals to explore the fascinating world of protein extrusion technology and better-for-you snacking. This powerhouse team brings deep expertise in both the science and consumer insights driving the functional foods revolution, revealing how advanced extrusion processing is solving the longstanding challenge of creating high-protein snacks that actually taste good and deliver satisfying texture.
From Ingredients to Extrusion Technology, Glanbia Nutritionals is Behind Better Snacking
The conversation dives into the mechanics of twin screw extrusion technology that transforms fine protein powders into everything from cheese puffs to protein cereals, the critical differences between dairy and plant-based proteins in processing, and the four distinct snacking behavior profiles that brands need to understand. From Jonathan’s 25 years of extrusion expertise to James’s insights on consumer trends showing that Americans consume sweet snacks 6.4 times per week, this episode unpacks how Glanbia is pushing protein fortification from the typical 5-7% found in traditional snacks up to an impressive 65-85% range without sacrificing the crunch and flavor consumers demand.
Beyond the technical breakthroughs, we explore real-world market dynamics including the tight supply situation for whey protein isolate, the evolution of clean label formulations, the seed oil debate, and how GLP-1 adoption is driving unprecedented protein demand. This episode showcases how ingredient innovation at the B2B level is transforming what’s possible in functional snacking, with applications ranging from airport grab-and-go options to high-protein cereal that’s eaten more as snacks than breakfast.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/glanbia-nutritionals-healthy-snacking-185
Video: Glanbia Nutritionals – Extrusion Technology & Better-For-You Snacking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng1ZC_yq7K0
Detailed Show Notes: Engineering Better-For-You Snacks with Protein Extrusion
(0:00) – Introduction to Glanbia’s Functional Foods Team
(5:00) – The Snacking Landscape: Consumption Patterns and Consumer Demands
(8:00) – Understanding Extrusion Technology: From Play-Doh to Protein Puffs
(12:00) – The Protein Challenge: Why High-Protein Snacks Were Nearly Impossible
(17:00) – Texture Optimization and Business Model
(21:15) – Functional Ingredients and Plant Protein Challenges
(26:00) – The Plant-Based Meat Decline: Lessons for Functional Foods
(29:30) – Flavor Innovation: Ethnic Profiles and Cheese Evolution
(33:30) – The Four Snacker Types: Texture Preferences and Product Formats
(37:30) – The Keto Perspective and Protein Cereal’s Surprising Use Case
(43:00) – Trail Mix Reinvention and Extrusion Versatility
(47:30) – Emulating Textures and Consumer Acceptance
(54:00) – Whey Protein Supply Constraints and GLP-1 Impact
(58:00) – Extrusion Process Details and Customer Collaboration
(1:00:15) – Fortifying Fruit Snacks and Multi-Category Capabilities
(1:03:00) – Fiber Fortification and Gastrointestinal Health
(1:06:00) – Colostrum: Immune Support and Gut Health Innovation
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Oct 8, 2025 • 58min
#184: Ed Dosz #2 - NutriScience ButyraGen's Direct Butyrate Generation for Gut Health
In Episode #184 of the PricePlow Podcast, Mike and Ben welcome back Ed Dosz, VP of Science Innovation at NutriScience Innovations, for a comprehensive exploration of ButyraGen, a revolutionary ingredient that generates butyrate directly in the small intestine. With butyrate serving as the primary fuel for colon cells while playing crucial roles in gut barrier function, immune modulation, and the gut-brain axis, Ed explains why this short-chain fatty acid has become one of the most important yet overlooked compounds in modern nutrition.
Ed Dosz Returns to Discuss ButyraGen: Solving the Modern Butyrate Crisis
The conversation tackles a fundamental problem facing modern gut health: the average American consumes only half the fiber needed for adequate butyrate production, and traditional prebiotics work only if you have the right gut bacteria. Ed details how ButyraGen’s unique tributyrin-based formulation bypasses these limitations entirely through enzymatic action, delivering consistent butyrate generation regardless of microbiome status, age, or dietary habits.
Beyond the science of butyrate delivery, Ed shares insights from two published clinical studies demonstrating ButyraGen’s real-world benefits, including significant reductions in belly pain and improvements in digestive quality of life. The discussion reveals particularly strong benefits for women and postmenopausal individuals, explores the fascinating gut-brain connection, and examines ButyraGen’s potential applications in metabolic health, GLP-1 support, and beyond. This episode provides a comprehensive look at why direct butyrate generation represents the next evolution in digestive health supplementation.
Subscribe to the PricePlow Podcast for more conversations with ingredient scientists and industry innovators!
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/nutriscience-butyragen-184
Video: Ed Dosz Explains NutriScience’s ButyraGen – Direct Butyrate Generation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnXrruuWyBE
Detailed Show Notes: The Science and Clinical Benefits of ButyraGen
(0:00) – Introduction and Reconnecting with Ed Dosz
(1:30) – Why Butyrate Matters: The Gut’s Primary Fuel
(5:00) – The Modern Butyrate Deficit Crisis
(9:15) – Why Traditional Prebiotics Fall Short
(13:30) – Introducing ButyraGen: Direct Butyrate Generation
(18:45) – Dosing Efficiency: Small Dose, Massive Impact
(23:00) – Clinical Evidence: Two Published Human Studies
(28:15) – Women’s Health: The Standout Clinical Finding
(33:30) – The Gut-Brain Axis and Future Research Directions
(38:45) – Metabolic Health and GLP-1 Connections
(43:15) – Practical Applications and Product Formulations
(48:30) – Quality Matters: Not All Tributyrin Is Created Equal
(53:00) – Stacking Strategies and Combination Recommendations
(57:45) – Safety, Tolerability, and Long-Term Use
(1:02:15) – Ed’s Vision for the Future of Gut Health
(1:06:30) – Closing Thoughts and Contact Information
Where to Follow Ed Dosz and Learn More About ButyraGen
NutriScience Innovations: NutriScienceUSA.com
NutriScience on LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/company/nutriscience-innovations-llc/
Ed …
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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 28min
#183: Raza Bashir - MuscleTech's Quality Control Excellence and Innovation Pipeline
On Episode #183 of the PricePlow Podcast, Mike and Ben sit down with Raza Bashir, Chief Innovation Officer at MuscleTech and Iovate, for an in-depth conversation about supplement quality control, manufacturing excellence, and the exciting innovation pipeline that has him more energized than ever in his nearly 20-year career. Broadcasting from MuscleTech’s laboratory facility, Raza provides unprecedented transparency into the rigorous processes that ensure every product meets the highest standards across 140 countries.
This conversation goes far beyond typical brand discussions, diving deep into the nuts and bolts of quality assurance: how MuscleTech manages relationships with 28+ contract manufacturers worldwide, the extensive third-party testing protocols that validate every batch, and the end-to-end oversight that distinguishes legacy brands from newcomers. Raza shares insights from recent Consumer Reports testing that validated MuscleTech’s mass gainers as the only products without concerning levels of heavy metals, demonstrating how comprehensive quality systems deliver tangible consumer protection.
The discussion then shifts to innovation, with exclusive reveals of breakthrough effervescent technology launching through the EFF’N Series at GNC, new peptide formulations combining cutting-edge ingredients like dileucine with HMB and essential amino acids, and the evolution of stimulant technology through EuphoriQ and the revolutionary Stacked pre-workout featuring Hydronox citrulline hydrochloride. Throughout the conversation, Raza’s passion for both scientific rigor and consumer experience shines through, explaining why MuscleTech continues setting industry standards after three decades.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/muscletech-quality-control-183
Video: Raza Bashir Discusses MuscleTech’s Quality Control and Innovation Pipeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-efByKU-cyk
Detailed Show Notes: Quality Systems and Innovation at MuscleTech
(0:00) – Introductions: Inside MuscleTech’s Innovation Lab
(0:45) – Raza’s Journey: From Passionate User to Innovation Leader
(4:00) – The Manufacturing Network: Managing 28+ Global Partners
(6:45) – The Qualification Process: Rigorous Audits Before Production
(10:30) – Ingredient Qualification: Testing Before Approval
(14:00) – The Branded Ingredient Advantage: Established Supply Chains
(17:15) – Production Consistency: Managing Multiple Manufacturers Per Product
(22:15) – The Multiple Manufacturer Strategy: Service and Supply Chain Resilience
(24:15) – Third-Party Testing and Consumer Reports Validation
(27:00) – Protein Testing and Nitrogen Analysis Methods
(32:00) – The Creatine Conundrum: Testing Above Label Claim
(36:30) – The Transparency Advantage: Avoiding Proprietary Blends
(39:00) – Innovation Without Over-Engineering
(40:15) – Business Resilience and Continued Innovation
(43:30) – The Innovation Risk: Pioneering New Ingredients
(47:00) – EuphoriQ Evolution: Responding to Consumer Feedback
(52:00) – The Leaner Business Philosophy: Focused Excellence
(55:00) – The EFF’N Series: Revolutionary Effervescent Technology
(59:00) – Theolim: Novel Metabolism Enhancement
(1:04:00) – EFF’N Energy: Genius Pure and Yohimbe
(1:06:00) – The Effervescent Experience: Dissolutio…
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Sep 24, 2025 • 1h 17min
#182: Brew Shockalaka - Max Fairchild, Chuck Letchman, & Daniel Pierce Revolutionize Coffee with Nootropics
On Episode #182 of the PricePlow Podcast, Mike and Ben welcome back Max Fairchild alongside industry legend Chuck Letchman and marketing strategist Dan Pierce to explore the launch of Brew Shockalaka, a revolutionary zero-sugar coffee beverage that’s redefining what functional drinks can be. This isn’t your typical RTD coffee or energy drink – it’s a complete reimagining of the category that combines dessert-inspired flavors with a powerful 1000mg nootropic matrix, all while maintaining zero sugar and zero dairy.
Brew Shockalaka! Zero-Sugar Dairy-Free Nootropic Coffee That Tastes Amazing
Max, who first appeared on the PricePlow channel back in 2018 during his Nutrex Research days, has partnered with distribution veteran Chuck Letchman to create what they call “the Deadpool of coffee” – a brand that refuses to take itself too seriously while delivering serious functional benefits. From the challenges of retort manufacturing to the strategic decision to launch in fitness channels first, this conversation reveals the complexities of beverage innovation and the power of industry relationships in bringing disruptive products to market.
The team discusses their unique approach to product development, from sourcing natural caffeine from Colombian beans to incorporating CognatiQ coffee fruit extract and a strategic 560mg dose of potassium. With flavors like Salted Caramel, Café Mocha, and Maple Cinnamon Donut, “Brew Shock” is targeting the convergence of energy drinks, functional coffee, and nootropic supplements while building a brand identity that embraces music, comedy, and authentic consumer connections.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/brew-shockalaka-182
Video: Brew Shockalaka – The Coffee Revolution with Max Fairchild, Chuck Letchman, and Dan Pierce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eDuXsHu2m0
Detailed Show Notes: Building the Zero Sugar Coffee Revolution
(0:00) – Introductions: Reuniting with Max Fairchild
(2:15) – Chuck Letchman’s Industry Legacy and Partnership Philosophy
(4:15) – Dan Pierce: The Digital Marketing Strategist
(6:00) – The Genesis Story: From Powder to RTD Innovation
(8:30) – Manufacturing Challenges: The Retort Reality
(12:00) – Flavor Development: Dessert-Inspired Innovation
(17:00) – The Science Behind the Buzz: Nootropic Innovation
(22:00) – Labeling Strategy: Transparency as Differentiation
(26:45) – The Retort Advantage: Manufacturing as Competitive Moat
(32:00) – The Chuck Letchman Effect: Industry Relationships as Assets
(38:45) – Team Dynamics: Swiss Army Knife Approach
(44:15) – Strategic Pacing: Growth Management Philosophy
(50:30) – Target Demographics: Coffee Culture Convergence
(53:45) – Brand Personality: The Deadpool of Coffee
(55:30) – Alcohol Collaborations: Expanding Usage Occasions
(1:00:15) – Strategic Partnerships: Redefine Foods Collaboration
(1:07:15) – Digital Marketing Revolution: TikTok Strategy
(1:12:00) – International Expansion: Testing Global Waters
Where to Follow and Learn More
Brew Shockalaka:
Company Website
PricePlow.com/brew-shockalaka
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Sep 18, 2025 • 1h 19min
#181: Ryan and Jeff Gardner - Bucked Up's Billion-or-Bust Empire and the New Black Ant Pre-Workout
On Episode #181 of the PricePlow Podcast, we sit down with twin brothers Ryan Gardner (CEO) and Jeff Gardner (CMO) of Bucked Up at their Salt Lake City headquarters. This conversation reveals the remarkable journey from internet marketing pioneers to building a billion dollar million supplement empire, complete with helicopter rides over Utah’s mountains and an inside look at their massive manufacturing facility.
The Gardner brothers share their incredible origin story that began with exact match domains and affiliate networks in the early 2000s, leading to a deer antler spray windfall thanks to Ray Lewis’s Super Bowl controversy in 2013. From those humble beginnings, they built Bucked Up into the #1 pre-workout at GNC and Vitamin Shoppe, pioneered micro-influencer marketing before it was cool, and recently expanded into energy drinks with major partnerships including SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles — all in pursuit of their “billion or bust” vision.
Celebrating the Launch of Bucked Up Black Ant
This episode also features the exclusive launch details of Black Ant, their revolutionary new pre-workout Mike and Ben helped formulate, featuring industry-first ingredients like RipFACTOR and Creasol SSAT alongside traditional creatine monohydrate (Black Ant is Bucked Up’s first creatine-based pre-workout).
The conversation explores everything from their innovative protein drinks with light carbonation to their thoughts on peptides, healthspan optimization, and the future of the supplement industry.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/bucked-up-ryan-jeff-gardner-181
Video: Inside Bucked Up HQ with the Gardner Brothers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzGuzuGtuWQ
Detailed Show Notes: From Internet Marketing to Supplement Empire
(0:00) – Introductions: Meeting the Twin CEOs in Salt Lake City
(2:15) – The Internet Marketing Origins: Early 2000s Digital Pioneers
(6:30) – The L-Arginine Domain Score: Learning the Power of Exact Match Domains
(9:45) – The Ray Lewis Windfall: Deer Antler Spray Goes Viral
(14:30) – Entering the Pre-Workout Market: Innovation Through Transparency
(20:45) – Micro-Influencer Marketing: Ahead of the Curve
(24:45) – Dominating Retail: The Path to #1 at GNC and Vitamin Shoppe
(28:00) – The Beverage Evolution: Learning Distribution Networks
(31:30) – The Brand Beyond Products: Culture and Community
(34:00) – Product Innovation Partnership: The Black Ant Story
(38:00) – Revolutionary Strength Ingredients: RipFACTOR and Clinical Research
(42:30) – Premium Positioning and Market Strategy
(45:30) – Diversified Pre-Workout Portfolio Strategy
(48:30) – Ready-to-Drink Pre-Workout Development
(54:30) – Protein Innovation: Light Carbonation Revolution
(58:45) – Protein Dosing Philosophy and Market Positioning
(1:06:30) – Celebrity Partnerships and Brand Building
(1:10:30) – Market Expansion and Penetration Strategy
(1:12:30) – Peptides and Future Health Optimization
(1:17:30) – Healthspan vs Lifespan Philosophy
Where to Follow Bucked Up and Connect
Ryan Gardner: LinkedIn&…
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Sep 8, 2025 • 57min
#180: Dan DeMarino & Anthony Clark - Helaina's Precision Fermentation Revolution with effera™
On Episode #180 of the PricePlow Podcast, Mike and Ben venture into the heart of Manhattan to visit Helaina, where they sit down with Dan DeMarino, Business Development Director, and Anthony Clark, Chief Technology Officer, for an in-depth exploration of precision fermentation technology and effera⢠human-equivalent lactoferrin.
This conversation provides a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at the science and engineering that makes effera⢠possible, from Anthony’s revolutionary 5-week development cycles that compress what traditionally took 15 weeks, to the sophisticated machine learning models analyzing 170 million data points. We explore how Helaina has transformed precision fermentation from a months-long process into a predictable engineering paradigm, enabling rapid innovation in bioactive protein development.
The Future is Now: How Precision Fermentation will Change the World
Alongside Anthony’s technological prowess, Dan brings his extensive supplement industry experience across several categories to discuss the commercial applications of human lactoferrin. The conversation reveals clinical data showing that effera⢠is recognized by the body as “self” with no antibody development, while bovine lactoferrin triggers immune responses.
The biggest question is how to best get the word out there for this phenomenal ingredient. From iron regulation mechanisms to women’s health applications, gut health formulations, and the future of human bioactive proteins, this episode showcases why effera⢠represents a paradigm shift in nutritional science.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/helaina-effera-precision-fermentation-180
Video: Helaina’s Manhattan Lab with Dan DeMarino & Anthony Clark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mh0im0b_eo
Detailed Show Notes: Precision Fermentation Meets Supplement Innovation
(0:00) – Introductions: Meeting the Science and Business Leaders
(6:00) – Anthony’s Revolutionary R&D Approach: From 15 Weeks to 5 Weeks
(9:00) – Learning from Experience: Patchouli to Protein in Record Time
(10:30) – Data-Driven Innovation: 170 Million Data Points and Machine Learning
(11:15) – The effera⢠Breakthrough: Human Lactoferrin Through Precision Fermentation
(15:00) – Iron Regulation and Lactoferrin as a Signaling Molecule: Air Traffic Controller Analogy
(22:00) – Marketing Challenge: Making Iron and Anti-Inflammation Sexy
(23:00) – Strategic Positioning: Women’s Health and the “Pink Gold” Opportunity
(25:30) – The Creatine Parallel: Building Effera⢠into a Multi-Benefit Category
(29:00) – The Prenatal Crisis: 80% of Pregnant Women Are Iron Deficient
(36:00) – Product Showcase: Kepos and the Human Colostrum Concept
(41:30) – Formulating the Perfect Gut Health Supplement
(47:00) – Clinical Research Pipeline: Three Studies Define the Future
(49:00) – Clinical Validation: No Immune Response to Human Protein
There’s so much more to come, and we couldn’t be more excited about the future after visiting Helaina’s R&D lab.
Where to Follow Helaina an…
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Aug 29, 2025 • 1h 19min
#179: Tyrus Sciarra: The Flavor Dominator on Innovation, Sucralose vs. Natural Sweeteners, & Industry Trends
On Episode #179 of the PricePlow Podcast, Mike and Ben sit down with Tyrus Sciarra, the high-energy sales dynamo from Sensapure Flavors, at IFT First 2025 in Chicago. Broadcasting from Sensapure’s booth (the same location where we recorded our Episode #175 with Solar Foods), this conversation dives deep into the evolving world of flavor science, industry trends, and the passionate career journey of one of the supplement industry’s most enthusiastic flavor advocates.
From Natural to Even More Natural with Sensapure Flavors at IFT First 2025
Tyrus brings his characteristic energy and industry expertise to discuss everything from the natural vs. artificial flavor debate to international taste preferences, sweetener technologies, and the rise of the “clean label” movement. The conversation reveals how Sensapure Flavors differentiates itself through superior customer service, owned manufacturing capabilities, and deep understanding of the sports nutrition market. From his early days at another flavor house to his current role helping brands create flavor systems that drive consumer loyalty, Tyrus shares insights into why flavor isn’t just about taste — it’s about building successful brands.
In the Supplement Industry and Don’t Know Tyrus?! You Should!
The discussion also explores current industry controversies, including the Food Babe-driven movement away from natural flavors toward whole food extracts, the ongoing sucralose versus natural sweetener debate, and how American flavor profiles are conquering international markets. Whether you’re a brand looking to understand flavor development or simply curious about what goes into making your favorite supplements taste great, this episode provides rare insights into the science and business of flavor creation.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/tyrus-sciarra-sensapure-flavors-179
Video: Tyrus Sciarra Breaks Down Flavor Science and Industry Trends at IFT First 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESsccpGF5gw
Detailed Show Notes: The Science and Business of Flavor Creation
(0:00) – Introductions: The “Walking Ball of Energy”
(2:00) – Career Journey: From ADM Wild to Sensapure Leadership
(8:00) – The Flavor Industry Landscape: Service Over Commodity
(12:00) – Manufacturing Excellence: Owning the Process
(16:00) – Ownership Strategy: Learning from Xtend’s Success
(23:00) – The Natural Flavor Controversy: Beyond Food Babe
(32:00) – Citric Acid Alternatives: Meeting Clean Label Demands
(37:00) – Cost Analysis: Premium Pricing for Clean Label
(39:00) – The Sucralose Debate: Performance vs. Perception
(47:00) – Sweetener Technology: Understanding Peak Profiles
(50:00) – International Taste Preferences: American Flavors Go Global
(54:00) – Trend Prediction: Personalization and Athlete Collaborations
(58:00) – Brand Visibility: Moving Beyond Behind-the-Scenes
(1:02:00) – Industry Evolution: Community Over Competition
(1:05:00) – Market Education: Energy Drinks and Consumer Awareness
(1:10:00) – Viral Marketing: Lessons from Basic Supplements
(1:14:00) – Nostalgia and Memory: The Emotional Power of Flavor
(1:16:00) – Innovation Opportunities: Functional Flavor Development
Where to Follow Tyr…
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Aug 22, 2025 • 1h 15min
#178: Veritacor Supplement Manufacturing: GMP Excellence and the Future of Production w/ Frank Santos & Derek Curtiss
On Episode #178 of the PricePlow Podcast, Ben and guest co-host Joey Savage take listeners inside Veritacor Manufacturing in Luling, Texas, for an exclusive facility tour and in-depth conversation with founders Frank Santos and Derek Curtiss. This episode provides a rare behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to build and operate an NSF-certified, GMP-compliant supplement manufacturing facility from the ground up.
From their humble beginnings with a single encapsulator to their current 32,500 square foot operation, Frank and Derek share the meticulous processes, quality control systems, and attention to detail that set Veritacor apart in the competitive contract manufacturing landscape. The discussion dives deep into the technical aspects of supplement production, from vendor qualification and raw material testing to the critical differences between ribbon and paddle blenders, while also exploring their ambitious growth plans to reach 200,000 square feet of manufacturing space.
This discussion and forthcoming facility tour showcases not just Veritacor’s impressive capabilities in powder blending, encapsulation, and fulfillment, but also their commitment to elevating industry standards through rigorous third-party auditing, comprehensive SOPs, and a culture of continuous improvement. Whether you’re a brand owner looking for a manufacturing partner or simply interested in understanding how supplements are made at the highest quality levels, this episode delivers unprecedented insights into modern nutraceutical manufacturing.
Subscribe to the PricePlow Podcast to hear more conversations with industry innovators and manufacturers shaping the future of supplements!
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/veritacor-supplement-manufacturing-178
Video: Inside Veritacor Manufacturing Facility Tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An7FhkG9bZE
Detailed Show Notes: GMP Excellence and Manufacturing Innovation
(0:00) – Introduction: A Dream Realized in Manufacturing
(1:30) – Derek’s Journey: From Indian Botanicals to COO
(3:30) – Building from Scratch: The Veritacor Origin Story
(6:00) – The Path to NSF Certification: Setting the Standard
(8:15) – Customer Onboarding: From Formula to Feasibility
(10:15) – Vendor Qualification: The Foundation of Quality
(12:15) – The Critical Weighing and Blending Process
(14:30) – Blending Technology Deep Dive: Ribbon vs. Paddle vs. Bin
(17:15) – Quality Control: Multi-Point Testing and Validation
(19:45) – Manufacturing Capabilities and Core Specializations
(22:30) – Core Culture: Demonstrating Capabilities Through House Brands
(25:00) – Facility Evolution: Creative Solutions and Strategic Growth
(28:00) – NSF Audit Stories: Learning from Scrutiny
(31:00) – Stability Testing and Shelf Life Determination
(34:00) – Third-Party Logistics: Complete Supply Chain Solutions
(36:30) – NetSuite Implementation: Digital Transformation
(39:00) – Community Impact: Building Local Talent
(42:00) – The Business of Manufacturing: Costs and Timelines
(45:00) – Blender Selection Strategy: The Right Tool for Each Job
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