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Supplement Industry Thought Leaders
The PricePlow Podcast is the premiere supplement industry podcast, co-hosted by Mike and Ben. We interview various sports nutrition professionals, athletes, and researchers, and entrepeneurs to advance knowledge in active and sports nutrition. As a supplement-centric platform, most of our episodes revolve around sports nutrition supplements and performance enhancement, but we won’t limit our guests to that! Videos, write-ups, and citations can be found at the accompanying blog posts on https://blog.PricePlow.com/podcast
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Dec 11, 2025 • 48min
#195: Konlan James & Lucas Kaelin - Pouches, Supplement Social Media, and The Reality of Content Creation
Two of the supplement industry’s rising content creators join the PricePlow Podcast for Episode #195, recorded live from NNB Nutrition’s massive booth at SupplySide Global 2025. Lucas Kaelin (@WhatsUpWithLucas) and Konlan James (KJ from V1 Nutra) sit down with Mike and Ben to discuss the realities of building an audience in the supplement space, from navigating criticism to battling imposter syndrome.
The conversation takes an unexpected turn into the regulatory gray area surrounding supplement pouches, exploring why the FDA needs to provide clarification before the industry gets blindsided. As content creators who ask tough questions, Lucas and KJ offer candid perspectives on what it means to be “chronically online” while building legitimate businesses. This episode is essential listening for anyone interested in the future of supplement content creation and the challenges facing the next generation of industry voices.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/konlan-james-lucas-kaelin-195
Video: Lucas Kaelin & Konlan James Talk Content Creation at SupplySide Global
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnmN1Pxk4lY
Detailed Show Notes: Content Creator Challenges with Lucas Kaelin & KJ
(0:00) – Introductions and SupplySide Experience
(1:30) – Getting Recognized at Industry Events
(4:15) – Product Development Timelines
(5:15) – The Pouch Regulatory Gray Area
(7:00) – Pouches: The FDA Compliance Concern
(9:15) – Unknown Ingredients and Safety Concerns
(11:45) – Unknown Absorption Rates
(13:45) – Call for FDA Clarification on Non-Nicotine Pouches
(16:15) – Asking the Hard Questions
(18:00) – Social Media Criticism and Body Image
(19:45) – The Deep Dive Credibility Challenge
(21:00) – Ben’s Viral TikTok Story
(22:45) – The Venom Symbiote of Viral Content
(23:30) – Low Quality Wins on TikTok
(24:45) – When Does This End?
(25:45) – Age Reveal and Long-Term Planning
(28:15) – Trends Move Faster Than Ever
(28:45) – The Consumption-Creation Balance
(30:45) – Longest Break from Social Media
(32:30) – Honeymoon Posting Struggles
(33:15) – Digital Property and Feeling Like a Speck
(37:15) – You’re Not Just a Speck
(39:15) – Imposter Syndrome is Real
(40:30) – The Vitamin Shoppe Moment
(41:30) – Working From Home Challenges
(42:45) – Recording Around Significant Others
(43:45) – Texas vs. Michigan
(44:45) – Tangent: Mike’s Hair Care Routine
(46:45) – Lucas’s Favorite SupplySide Moment
(47:45) – Closing and Where to Follow
Where to Find Lucas Kaelin, Konlan James, and V1 Nutra
Lucas Kaelin LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucaskaelin/
Lucas Kaelin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatsuppwithlucas
Konlan James LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/konlanpaul/
Konlan James Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/konlan.james/
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Dec 4, 2025 • 50min
#194: Katie McCammack - Build Beverages at LaCore Nutraceuticals
Welcome back to Episode #194 of the PricePlow Podcast, where we tour LaCore Nutraceuticals in Van Alstyne, Texas with Kaitlyn McCammack, their Manager of Research and Development. Fresh off running the CREATEA Mighty Mango beverage — the collaborative innovation featured at SupplySide Global 2025 — we explore LaCore’s impressive manufacturing capabilities and discuss why creatine belongs in functional beverages.
LaCore represents a rare breed in supplement manufacturing: a facility offering everything from personalized nutrition packs to 12-ounce cans, stick packs to tetras, all while maintaining startup-friendly minimums. Katie walks us through their two Texas facilities, including a nostalgic former Johnson & Johnson building housing their can line with the biggest tanks we’ve seen. The conversation ranges from creatine for kids to liposome technology, proving that manufacturing innovation drives ingredient innovation.
Subscribe to the PricePlow Podcast on your favorite platform and sign up for LaCore Nutraceuticals alerts on PricePlow before we dive into this facility tour.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/lacore-nutraceuticals-194
Video: Behind the Scenes at LaCore Nutraceuticals in Van Alstyne, Texas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQi2MBma9RM
Detailed Show Notes: Manufacturing Innovation with Kaitlyn McCammack
(0:00) – Introductions and LaCore’s Multi-Format Capabilities
(1:45) – Tour of the Van Alstyne Facility
(3:30) – Production Scale and Startup-Friendly Philosophy
(6:15) – The CREATEA Project: Bringing Creatine to Functional Beverages
(8:00) – Katie’s Personal Creatine Protocol
(10:45) – Creatine Dosing Strategy and Overages
(13:15) – Creatine Research Beyond Muscle Growth
(15:30) – Bringing Creatine into the Cognition Space
(17:15) – Can Size Preference and Industry Trends
(19:00) – Energy Drink Preferences and Market Positioning
(21:30) – Personalized Nutrition and Pack Customization
(23:45) – Multi-Serve Liquids and Format Innovation
(26:30) – Gel Packs, Liquid Sticks, and Novel Delivery Systems
(30:30) – Liposome Technology and Particle Size
(33:00) – Homogenizers vs. Sonicators
(35:15) – Emulsion Technology and Novel Applications
(38:30) – Clean-in-Place (CIP) Procedures
(41:00) – Rev7 Ketone Beverage Sampling
(43:30) – Arjuna’s Shoden Ashwagandha Innovation
(45:30) – Facility Capabilities and Industry Positioning
(47:00) – Katie’s Industry Journey and SupplySide Preview
(48:30) – Closing and SupplySide Innovation Stage
Where to Follow Kaitlyn McCammack and LaCore Nutraceuticals
Kaitlyn McCammack on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaitlyn-mccammack-37656a178/
LaCore Nutraceuticals on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lacorenutra/
Sign up for LaCore Nutraceuticals alerts: https://www.priceplow.com/lacore-nutraceuticals
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Nov 26, 2025 • 1h 14min
#193: Trushield Certified - Test for 400+ Banned Substances with Lori Bestervelt & Thane Campbell
The supplement certification landscape is evolving, and Episode #193 of the PricePlow Podcast brings you to the forefront of this transformation. We sit down with Lori Bestervelt, Ph.D., and Thane Campbell from TruShield⢠Certified, a new certification service that’s challenging the status quo by focusing exclusively on comprehensive banned substance testing.
With Lori’s 22 years creating industry standards at NSF International (including the foundational NSF 173 standard) and Thane’s expertise from SMRTL (one of only two WADA-experienced anti-doping laboratories in the United States), they’re introducing a certification approach that tests for well over 400 prohibited substances, including entire drug classes like glucocorticoids and HIF stabilizers that other programs overlook.
TruShield⢠Certified: Finished Product Drug-Testing from an Elite Lab
Unlike traditional bundled certification programs that require brands to repeat testing across multiple areas they may already have covered, TruShield takes a streamlined approach by focusing solely on what athletes and tested individuals need most: certainty that their supplements are free from banned substances.
The conversation explores the evolution of performance-enhancing substances from prohormones to SARMs to peptides, the challenges of cross-contamination in manufacturing, and why the certification industry hasn’t kept pace with modern supply chain realities. Whether you’re a brand looking to protect athletes or a consumer wanting transparency about what’s in your supplements, this episode delivers critical insights into the future of supplement safety.
Subscribe to the PricePlow Podcast on your favorite platform and sign up for TruShield Certified news alerts on PricePlow before we dive into the details!
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/trushield-certified-193
Video: Introducing TruShield⢠Certified with Lori Bestervelt and Thane Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-m-QHg6nDk
Detailed Show Notes: TruShield⢠Certified’s Approach to Banned Substance Testing
(0:00) – Introductions and Background
(3:00) – The Problem with Bundled Certification Services
(5:00) – Industry Evolution and Current Gaps
(7:00) – Thane’s Background and SMRTL’s Role
(9:00) – The Evolution of Banned Substances
(11:00) – Consumer Safety and Informed Decisions
(15:00) – Testing Methodology and Laboratory Capabilities
(20:30) – The Lot-by-Lot Certification Process
(25:45) – Cross-Contamination Challenges in Manufacturing
(32:15) – Cost Considerations and Accessibility
(35:30) – Early Adopters: CON-CRÄT, RedLeaf Biologics, and Vireo
(40:45) – International Expansion and Geographic Availability
(47:15) – League Endorsements and Adoption
(53:00) – The Competitive Landscape
(58:45) – Manufacturing Partnerships and Supply Chain Transparency
(1:04:30) – Future Trends and Emerging Substances
(1:09:15) – The Caffeine Question and WADA Regulations
(1:13:45) – Partnership with Eurofins and Closing Thoughts
Where to Follow Lori B…
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Nov 23, 2025 • 56min
#192: Shawn Wells and Dustin Elliott #2: NNB Nutrition's Pure, Potent, Precise Revolution
We’re back at SupplySide Global 2025 as Shawn Wells and Dustin Elliott from NNB Nutrition return for Episode #192 of the PricePlow Podcast. Since Episode #152, NNB has undergone a dramatic transformation, fully committing to precision fermentation and launching their Pure Potent Precise campaign that’s reshaping how the supplement industry thinks about ingredient quality, potency, and manufacturing.
Filmed directly from NNB’s stunning new booth at SupplySide Global, this conversation explores the company’s evolution from novel ingredient supplier to industry thought leader driving pharmaceutical-grade supplement innovation. Shawn and Dustin detail their strategic shift toward 99%+ pure compounds, fermentation-based manufacturing, and microdosing strategies that deliver unprecedented efficacy while solving sustainability challenges.
The episode showcases NNB’s OnSwitch concept beverage, discusses their Pürest Creatine and Pürest Collagen launches, and dives deep into why isolated compounds often outperform whole herbs for modern formulation. We also tackle the controversial question of whether commodity creatine quality is declining as demand skyrockets, explore microplastic contamination in supplements, and preview three mystery ingredients launching with exclusive brand partners.
Subscribe to the PricePlow Podcast on your favorite platform and sign up for NNB Nutrition news alerts on PricePlow before diving in.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/nnb-nutrition-pure-potent-precise-192
Video: NNB Nutrition’s Precision Fermentation Revolution with Shawn Wells & Dustin Elliott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSQpMdQyXI
Detailed Show Notes: Pure, Potent, Precise – NNB’s Industry Evolution
(0:00) – Introduction and Mike’s Party Foul
(1:15) – SupplySide Global 2025 and Industry Growth
(3:45) – The NNB Party: Validation and Networking
(6:45) – Building the NNB Dream Team
(9:45) – OnSwitch: The Mind-Body Resilience Formula
(12:15) – The Birth of Pure Potent Precise
(15:45) – Potency: Reaching New Performance Levels
(18:00) – Precision: Eliminating the Noise
(21:45) – 6-Paradol vs Whole Grains of Paradise
(24:30) – The SalidroPure Success Story
(27:30) – Strategic Phase-Out of Non-Pure Compounds
(29:00) – MitoBurn and Ergothioneine: Proof of Cost Efficiency
(30:45) – The Spaceship Booth: Differentiation and Brand
(33:00) – The Podcast Room and Booth Functionality
(35:15) – Location Strategy: Learning and Evolving
(37:45) – Cold Approaches from Major Retailers
(38:30) – Pürest Creatine: Disrupting a Commodity Market
(40:45) – The Safety Question: Yesterday’s Data vs Tomorrow’s Quality
(43:15) – The Dose and Exposure Argument
(45:30) – Third-Party Testing Proposal
(48:30) – Total Toxin Exposure Philosophy
(50:00) – Fermentation: The Clean Manufacturing…
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Nov 19, 2025 • 1h 21min
#191: Calocurb - Natural GLP-1 Activator (600% Increase!) - Sarah Kennedy & Dr. Edward Walker
For Episode #191 of the PricePlow Podcast, we explore one of the most interesting and scientifically-rigorous appetite control stories we’ve encountered on the podcast yet. Mike sits down with Sarah Kennedy, founder and CEO of Calocurb, and Dr. Edward Walker, the lead scientist behind the development of Amarasate®, the natural hop extract at the heart of Calocurb’s formula.
This isn’t your typical supplement origin story. Instead of a garage startup or bodybuilding brand, Calocurb emerged from a $20 million New Zealand government research grant specifically designed to develop a plant-based obesity treatment.
Calocurb: From New Zealand Science to Commercial Reality
Dr. Walker takes us through the fascinating scientific journey that began in 2009, when the New Zealand government funded research to find better alternatives to weight loss drugs. His team screened over 1,000 plant compounds, searching for those that could trigger the release of appetite-suppressing hormones. After years of research, including two years spent collecting intestinal biopsies from hospital patients, they identified a specific New Zealand hop variety that produces remarkable results. The clinical data shows Amarasate® increases GLP-1 and CCK levels sixfold over baseline, reduces hunger by 30%, decreases cravings by 40%, and cuts caloric intake by 18%.
Sarah Kennedy licensed the technology in 2017 and launched Calocurb in 2018, years before the GLP-1 injectable phenomenon made appetite control a household topic. Today, Calocurb is positioned as a natural GLP-1 activator that works three ways:
as a standalone appetite suppressant,
as an adjunct to reduce injectable dosages and side effects, and critically,
as post-cycle therapy to prevent the rebound weight gain that occurs when people stop taking GLP-1 drugs.
With new clinical trial results expected from a 150-patient, six-month study, Calocurb represents a potent bridge between traditional supplements and pharmaceutical interventions in the weight management space.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/calocurb-191
Video: Calocurb: Natural GLP-1 Activation Through Bitter Hops Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c17t11gwlNc
Detailed Show Notes: Sarah Kennedy and Dr. Edward Walker on Calocurb® and Amarasate®
(0:00) – Introductions: A Different Kind of Supplement Story
(1:00) – Dr. Walker’s Background: From Berry Compounds to Gut Science
(3:00) – The New Zealand Government Grant: $20 Million to Solve Obesity
(5:50) – How New Zealand Funds Primary Research
(7:15) – The Government-to-Commercial Pathway
(10:35) – The Pre-Ozempic Marketing Challenge
(13:00) – The Timeline of GLP-1 Knowledge: 2009 vs. Today
(15:45) – The “Bitter Brake” Theory: Location Matters
(17:10) – Two Years in Hospital Waiting Rooms Collecting Biopsies
(20:20) – Bitter Taste Receptors Throughout the Gut
(22:30) – Why Plants and Humans Evolved This Way
(24:15) – Why Bitter Detection in the Small Intestine?
(26:15) – Were CCK and GLP-1 Well-Known in 2009?
(27:45) – Screening 1,000 Plant Compounds: The Lab Work
(29:45) – The Four Finalists (and Why Three Failed)
(30:45) – Why Hops Won: Safety, Stability, and Supply Chain
(33:30) – The Advantage of Industry-Aware Research
(35:30) – …
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Nov 12, 2025 • 1h 6min
#190: One Innovation Labs: LiposoMax® Industry Partnerships Bring True Liposomal Innovation to Market
On Episode #190 of the PricePlow Podcast, Mike and Ben host a special round-robin format from SupplySide Global 2025, recorded live at the ONE Innovation Labs booth. This episode showcases the collaborative power of the supplement industry, featuring conversations with Dr. Pedro Perez and Anthony Armas (ONE Innovation Labs), Katie Emerson and Karen Todd (Kyowa Hakko), Dan Force (Prinova), Zain Saiyed (Lonza), Dr. Benjamin Weeks (Adelphi University), and Nathan McWherter (Sports Research).
The Miami-based ingredient innovator behind PureWay-C® is making waves with their LiposoMax® liposomal delivery platform, and this episode demonstrates how pharmaceutical-grade technology is transforming supplement formulation across multiple categories. From Setria® Glutathione to creatine monohydrate, from DUOCAP® capsule-within-capsule technology to ready-to-drink applications, this conversation reveals how genuine innovation creates opportunities throughout the supply chain.
Beyond technical discussions about phospholipid complexes and cellular uptake kinetics, this episode tells the story of how ingredient suppliers, distributors, technology partners, and brands collaborate to bring differentiated products to market. If you’re a formulator seeking to understand how delivery technology can justify premium positioning, or a brand builder looking for genuine scientific differentiation, this episode provides a masterclass in strategic partnerships that create value at every level.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/one-innovation-labs-liposomax-190
Video: ONE Innovation Labs Round Robin at SupplySide Global 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEU-PmSV6qs
Detailed Show Notes: Pharmaceutical-Grade Innovation Meets Industry Collaboration
(0:00) – Introduction: The Innovators Behind PureWay-C®
(4:45) – The LiposoMax® Platform: True Liposomal Technology
(10:45) – Kyowa Hakko: Elevating Setria® Glutathione with LiposoMax®
(14:45) – Topical Applications and the Recycling Properties
(20:30) – Prinova Partnership: Bringing LiposoMax® Creatine to Market
(25:15) – The Science Behind LiposoMax® Creatine
(28:45) – Clinical Data: Two Times Cellular Absorption
(32:00) – Creatine’s Mainstream Moment
(37:00) – Format Flexibility: From Beverages to Soft Gels
(39:30) – Lonza Partnership: The DUOCAP® Revolution
(44:15) – Advanced Release Profiles and Formulation Strategies
(48:00) – Benjamin Weeks’ Cellular Research Methodology
(51:30) – Magnesium Innovation and Niacin Parallels
(54:30) – Lonza’s Enzyme Delivery Research
(58:30) – Sports Research: Commercial Success with Liposomal Vitamin C
(1:02:00) – Authenticity in Liposomal Claims
Where to Follow and Learn More
ONE Innovation Labs
ONE Innovation Labs on LinkedIn
Anthony Armas on LinkedIn
Dr. Pedro Perez on LinkedIn
Erne…
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Nov 7, 2025 • 34min
#189: CREATEA Panel at SupplySide Global 2025 with PLT Health, Glanbia Nutritionals, NNB Nutrition, NutriScience, & Lacore Nutraceuticals
On Episode #189 of the PricePlow Podcast, we bring you a special panel discussion from SupplySide Global 2025 featuring the brilliant minds behind CREATEA Mighty Mango, the groundbreaking collaborative concept beverage that’s redefining what’s possible in functional drink formulation. Building on the viral success of last year’s XPO NRG, CREATEA takes beverage innovation to the next level by focusing on commercial viability, natural ingredients, and solving one of the industry’s biggest challenges: stable creatine in ready-to-drink formats.
Ben moderates this powerhouse panel featuring Steve Fink (PLT Health Solutions), Brent Petersen (Glanbia Nutritionals), Shawn Wells (NNB Nutrition), Katie McCammack (Lacore Nutraceuticals), and Michael Lelah (NutriScience Innovations). Together, these industry leaders discuss the technical breakthroughs, formulation challenges, and collaborative spirit that made CREATEA possible. From CreaBev’s revolutionary creatine stability to Zynamite S’s beverage-ready cognitive enhancement, SweetVantage’s natural sweetener breakthrough, and InnovaBean’s sustainable natural caffeine, this panel reveals how setting competition aside creates products that elevate the entire industry.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/createa-supplyside-global-2025-189
Video: CREATEA Mighty Mango Panel Discussion at SupplySide Global 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOh6djtUes8
Detailed Show Notes: The Future of Formulating Beverages
(0:00) – Welcome and Panel Introductions
(2:15) – Collaborative Innovation and Zynamite S
(8:15) – CreaBev: Solving Creatine’s Beverage Stability Challenge
(13:30) – Market Trends and Consumer Preferences
(23:00) – The Beverage Stability Imperative
(25:15) – Comprehensive Beverage Stability Testing
(30:00) – The Power and Sustainability of Collaboration
(32:45) – Collaboration as Industry Reality
Where to Learn More About CREATEA and Featured Ingredients
CREATEA Mighty Mango Article: Full formulation breakdown and background
PLT Health Solutions: LinkedIn | News on PricePlow
Glanbia Nutritionals: LinkedIn | News on PricePlow | CreaBev Article
NNB Nutrition: LinkedIn | News on PricePlow
NutriScience Innovations: LinkedIn | News on PricePlow
Lacore Nutraceuticals: LinkedIn | News on PricePlow
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Nov 5, 2025 • 44min
#188: Edwin Gonzalez & Michael Alfaro - Redefining Vitamin B12 with HTBA's MecobalActive
For Episode #188 of the PricePlow Podcast, we welcome Edwin Gonzalez, Functional Health Sales Manager at Health Tech Bio Actives (HTBA), alongside Michael Alfaro from Master Foods Lab. This episode marks a milestone collaboration: putting cutting-edge vitamin B12 science into functional foods that consumers can actually feel working.
Edwin introduces MecobalActive, HTBA’s ultra-pure, optimized methylcobalamin ingredient that’s redefining what B12 supplementation can do. Traditionally, the industry positioned B12 as a deficiency vitamin for tired, anemic, or sluggish individuals. HTBA is changing that narrative completely. New clinical research demonstrates that just three days of MecobalActive supplementation significantly improved both physical power output and cognitive reaction time in healthy, well-trained athletes without B12 deficiency. This isn’t about correcting what’s broken, it’s about optimizing what already works.
The conversation explores HTBA’s nearly 50-year European heritage, their unique position as the only EU manufacturer of all active B12 forms, and the proprietary green chemistry process that yields MecobalActive’s exceptional purity and stability. Michael walks through the technical challenges of incorporating functional ingredients into Skinny Bite cakes (showcased at SupplySide Global 2025), revealing the complex interplay between formulation science, manufacturing constraints, and innovative problem-solving. From raspberry-colored B12 filling to protected cake layers to the partnership model driving functional food innovation, this episode delivers both scientific depth and practical application insights.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/vitamin-b12-htba-mecobalactive-188
Video: Redefining B12 with HTBA’s Edwin Gonzalez and Master Foods Lab’s Michael Alfaro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGqZm9Q5bkw
Detailed Show Notes: MecobalActive B12 Takeover
(0:00) – Welcome Back: A Dive Into Functional Foods
(2:00) – Redefining B12: From Deficiency to Performance Enhancement
(4:45) – Creating Functional Foods: The Clear Can Problem
(7:15) – The Formulation Challenge: Making Actives Work in Real Food
(11:00) – HTBA’s European Heritage and Manufacturing Excellence
(14:30) – Green Chemistry: Manufacturing B12 Without Toxic Reagents
(16:45) – Light Sensitivity and Creative Product Applications
(19:00) – Redefining B12 Like Creatine Was Redefined
(22:00) – The Clinical Study: Triple-Blind Crossover in Healthy Athletes
(26:45) – The Results: 4% Power, 6% Fatigue Resistance, 5% Cognition
(31:00) – Structure/Function Claims and Market Applications
(35:45) – Color-Driven Innovation and Future Applications
(37:00) – The Chocolate Coating: Formulation Within Constraints
(39:00) – Manufacturing Mastery: Solving the Protein Cake Challenge
(41:00) – The Partnership Model: When Ingredient Suppliers Become Collaborators
(42:00) – The Pressure Cooker: Building Brands in Real Time
(44:00) – Closing and Where to Find Edwin, HTBA, and Michael
Where to Find HTBA, MecobalActive, and Master Foods Lab
HTBA and MecobalActive:
MecobalActive: Healt…
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Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 41min
#187: Strom Sports & PLT Health - UK vs US Supplement Standards and Strategies
On Episode #187 of the PricePlow Podcast, we welcome Richard Foster (founder of Strom Sports UK) and Dean Harris (president of Strom Sports US) for an in-depth discussion filmed at PLT Health Solutions headquarters in Morristown, New Jersey. Joined by PLT’s Steve Fink (who first joined us in Episode #146), this marks the podcast’s first deep dive into the UK supplement market and the transatlantic differences in formulation philosophy, regulatory frameworks, and consumer expectations.
Richard brings 19 years of industry experience building Strom from a UK supplement shop into a global brand focused on performance athletes, while Dean shares insights from bringing the brand to American consumers. The conversation explores why UK health products often exceed US standards despite America’s more permissive approach to stimulants, how branded ingredients like ApresFlex and CellFlo6 deliver superior results compared to generic alternatives, and why the supplement industry is entering its “golden age” of science-backed innovation.
Whether you’re interested in international market dynamics, ingredient science, or the future of supplement formulation, this episode delivers valuable insights from both sides of the Atlantic.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/strom-sports-plt-health-187
Video: Strom Sports UK/US at PLT Health Solutions – International Supplement Market Insights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVkhvOkyiVc
Detailed Show Notes
(0:00) – Welcome to PLT Health Solutions
(2:15) – UK vs US: Quality Standards and Distribution Models
(6:40) – Beast Farm: Eddie Hall’s Supplement Brand
(8:30) – The Dinner That Started Everything
(10:00) – ApresFlex: The Joint Health Game-Changer
(15:00) – The Evolution of Informed Consumers
(17:00) – UK Novel Food Regulations: The 1997 Rule
(19:30) – The Ashwagandha Controversy
(28:00) – Anti-Inflammatories and Clinical Dosing
(31:30) – CellFlo6: From Acquisition to Integration
(33:45) – Differentiation in a Sea of Branded Ingredients
(38:00) – CreaPure and the Branded Ingredient Spectrum
(40:00) – The Rise of the Informed Consumer
(43:45) – Third-Party Testing and the Informed Sport Trap
(46:15) – Beverage Formulation Challenges
(47:50) – CellFlo6 in Peak Max: Bodybuilding Applications
(52:15) – CellFlo6 for Libido and Cardiovascular Health
(55:00) – Mega Natural and the Sustainability Question
(57:15) – Flavor: The Hardcore vs Mainstream Divide
(1:03:45) – Nostalgia for the Wild West Era and Current Glory Days
(1:08:30) – The Collagen Controversy
(1:11:15) – The EU Caffeine Regulation Dilemma
(1:14:45) – Extended Release Caffeine and zümXR
(1:20:00) – zümXR Caffeine and PLT’s Nootropics
(1:23:30) – The Cognitive Health Revolution in the UK
(1:36:15) – The Death of Present-Moment Experience
(1:38:45) – Where to Find Strom Sports
Where to Follow Strom Sports and PLT Health Solutions
Strom Sports UK: str…
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Oct 22, 2025 • 56min
#186: Marc Lobliner - Why goBHB Will Be Bigger Than Creatine
For Episode #186 of the PricePlow Podcast, we welcome back Marc Lobliner, who returns with major news: he’s now President of Ketone Labs. Marc brings his signature energy and bold predictions to discuss why he believes goBHB will become bigger than creatine in the supplement industry.
Since we last formally spoke with Marc on the podcast in October 2021 (Episode #053), he’s not just launching products like the Outright Bar, but is taking the helm at Ketone Labs. This isn’t just another business venture for Marc — he’s calling goBHB a “transformative ingredient” that will change everything from athletic performance to concussion prevention to overall health.
Marc discusses the real-world applications he’s implementing, including concussion protocols for his own kids in football and wrestling, the differences between D-BHB and L-BHB isomers, and why he believes healthier individuals experience more pronounced effects from ketone supplementation. He also shares candid insights about product development timelines, legal challenges in the supplement industry (including those infamous Prop 65 warnings), and his vision for making goBHB as ubiquitous as creatine.
https://blog.priceplow.com/podcast/marc-lobliner-gobhb-186
Video: Marc Lobliner on goBHB, Ketone Labs, and the Future of Supplements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-US7QIKl7U
Detailed Show Notes with Marc
(0:00) – Welcome Back, Marc “The Machine” Lobliner
(2:00) – Balancing Multiple Ventures
(5:45) – Concussion Protocols for Young Athletes
(8:45) – Safety Profile: No LD50 for BHB
(10:00) – The One Three Butanediol Problem
(12:15) – The Plan for goBHB: Clinical and Consumer Applications
(15:00) – Product Applications Across Categories
(18:00) – The Sleep Study Discovery
(20:45) – Product Development Timelines in Supplements
(23:45) – The Outright Bar Story: Lessons in Distribution
(30:30) – Legal Landmines in the Supplement Industry
(31:45) – The California Problem: Prop 65 and Beyond
(34:25) – Media Bias and Heavy Metals Testing
(36:30) – Major Studies with Dr. Jose Antonio
(39:00) – White Glove Formulation Services
(41:00) – D-BHB vs L-BHB: The Ketone Meter Paradox
(44:45) – L-BHB and Cardiovascular Research
(45:45) – The Anabolic Properties of BHB
(49:30) – Why Healthier People Feel It More
(50:15) – The Niacin Parallel
(51:30) – Marc’s Passion and Work-Life Balance
(52:45) – Training Schedule and Competitive Future
(55:00) – Formulating the Perfect BHB Powder
(55:30) – What’s Next: Supply Side and Beyond
Where to Find Marc Lobliner and Ketone Labs
Marc Lobliner on Twitter and Instagram: @MarcLobliner / @MarcLobliner
Ketone Labs News on PricePlow: https://www.priceplow.com/ketone-labs
Ketone Labs Instagram: @KetoneLabs
Thanks for bringing your trademark energy to the podcast, Marcâwe’ll see …
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