

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Exit Five
Conversations about marketing and business. Hosted by Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, Former CMO). Join the top community for B2B marketers at exitfive.com
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Nov 3, 2025 • 51min
What Your Messaging is Missing: How to Close the Meaning Gap (with Diane Wiredu, Founder of Lion Words)
Diane Wiredu, Founder of Lion Words and a B2B messaging expert, dives into the challenges of unclear messaging in tech. She tackles the 'meaning gap' that leaves most B2B copy feeling bland and shares her insights on achieving message-market fit. Diane emphasizes the importance of balancing clarity and emotion, offers strategies for simplifying complex products, and explains how to align teams around clear messaging. With engaging examples, she urges marketers to focus on what really resonates with buyers.

Oct 30, 2025 • 49min
GTM Growth Decoded: 100 Companies, 3 Stages, 1 System with Sangram Vajre, Co-Founder & CEO of GTM Partners
Sangram Vajre, Co-founder and CEO of GTM Partners, is an expert in go-to-market strategies. He discusses how defining GTM as a transformational process is crucial for growth. Sangram shares insights from research on 100 companies, emphasizing the importance of Net Revenue Retention (NRR) as a key survival metric. He argues for a focus on consistent, 'boring' marketing tactics that resonate with audiences and introduces a GTM Operating System, consisting of eight questions for alignment and decision-making. Prioritization and simplicity in marketing efforts are also key themes.

Oct 27, 2025 • 32min
I Answered 15 Questions About Work and Life from the Exit Five Team
In this lively Q&A session, Dave dives into his LinkedIn content creation process and daily routines. He shares the most embarrassing moment of his career, a surprising office mishap, and reflects on his favorite books. From career advice to what motivates him during downtime, Dave offers a candid look at his life and work. He considers which animal he'd transform into and even reveals his karaoke go-to. With humor and insight, he invites listeners to explore the balance of personal and professional development.

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Oct 23, 2025 • 57min
From Growth Marketer to CMO: How Kelly Cheng Leads Marketing at Goldcast
In this engaging discussion, Kelly Cheng, the CMO at Goldcast, shares her fascinating journey from Hong Kong to Boston and her transition from growth marketer to marketing leader. She dives into the strategic shift from product-led growth to a sales-led model, emphasizing the importance of long-term brand investment. Kelly discusses her marketing org structure, why the BDR team aligns with marketing, and her methods for measuring brand and mindshare. She also reflects on the role of mentorship in her career and the balance between leadership and parenthood.

Oct 20, 2025 • 10min
Live from LGA my NYC Recap
Broadcasting from LaGuardia, the host dives into a recap of a vibrant NYC event, emphasizing the undeniable value of in-person connections. Heartwarming stories highlight how community bonds transformed lives, showcasing members who became friends. A unique networking format encourages genuine interactions among attendees, while memorable prizes spark social buzz. Insights from relatable sponsors reveal how marketing tactics can foster meaningful relationships, making this gathering one for the books!

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Oct 20, 2025 • 54min
Mastering Messaging, Copy, and Clarity with Emma Stratton
Emma Stratton, founder of Punchy and author of 'Make It Punchy,' specializes in clear messaging for B2B tech firms. In this conversation, Emma reveals how specificity and empathy can transform vague messaging into impactful communication. She highlights common pitfalls B2B companies face in a saturated market and emphasizes the importance of using customer feedback for effective messaging. The duo also discusses the balance between creativity and structure, and how personal growth influences business success.

Oct 16, 2025 • 58min
Behind the Scenes of Drive 2025 with Anna Vermillion and Allison Saxon
In this engaging conversation, Anna Vermillion and Allison Saxon from Exit Five share insights from Drive 2025. Anna, the events lead, discusses the importance of creating 'third spaces' for deeper connections, while Allison dives into the logistics behind successful events. They emphasize the value of community as the true ROI of in-person gatherings. Discover how feedback shaped their approach, the significance of starting with the landing page, and hilarious mishaps that turned into valuable lessons!

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Oct 15, 2025 • 16min
Email vs. Real Mail
Explore the ongoing debate about the relevance of email marketing. Discover insights on how crowded inboxes impact effectiveness and why some are stepping away from emails. Hear about the power of hand-curated lists and the Dream 100 strategy for targeted outreach. Delve into direct mail techniques that break through the noise with personalized touches. Learn why quality over quantity in marketing relationships is essential and how timeless storytelling can still resonate in today's market.

Oct 14, 2025 • 12min
Traveling and The ROI of Events
In this solo rant, Dave shares his plans for a trip to NYC, highlighting the excitement of local meetups. He dives into the importance of in-person interactions for remote teams, stressing how they boost chemistry and collaboration. Dave explores the multifaceted ROI of events, beyond just ticket sales, emphasizing networking and relationship-building. He reflects on the evolution of business travel from a draining chore to a purposeful experience. All this, while walking through the picturesque woods of Vermont.

Oct 13, 2025 • 57min
Beyond Copy: How To Use AI to Build GTM Systems That Scale
Dan Guenet, a GTM Engineer at Compound Growth Marketing, and Eoin Clancy, Head of Growth at AirOps, discuss transforming AI theory into practical workflows for marketers. They explore how to bridge the gap between AI hype and execution, revealing secrets to automate webinar production and analyze sales transcripts for actionable insights. Dan highlights tools like Clay and Zapier for creating scalable systems, while Eoin emphasizes the importance of refreshing SEO content to enhance AI search performance. Together, they share how to start small and iterate for success.


