
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.
Latest episodes

Oct 5, 2015 • 1h 3min
PNR 99: The Internet of the Future Will Be Ruled By Few
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Jay Acunzo's fantastic report on content marketing pods, possibly a better way to structure teams for content marketing. The Washington Post announces that they are going to distribute every article they have directly on Facebook, and Twitter shocks the world by getting rid of tweet counts. Rants and raves include who's going to save advertising and a new solution for print newspapers. This week's TOM example: Thomas Edison.
This week's articles:
Rethinking How We Structure Content Marketing Teams: The Pod Approach
http://www.sorryformarketing.com/blog/structuring-content-marketing-teams-the-pod-approach
The Only Game In Town Why The Washington Post Is Pushing All its Content to Facebook Instant Articles
http://www.themediabriefing.com/article/the-only-game-in-town-why-the-washington-post-is-pushing-all-its-content-to-facebook-instant-articles
Twitter Removing Share Counts
http://warfareplugins.com/is-twitter-seriously-removing-share-counts-why-would-they-do-this/
Sponsor: Brandpoint HUB and Number Crunch: How a Content Marketing Platform Saves Time and Money - http://bit.ly/brandpointhub
Rants and Raves
http://www.themediabriefing.com/article/why-newspapers-must-dare-not-to-be-daily
https://medium.com/whither-news/reform-advertising-cb13a8423b9f

Sep 29, 2015 • 58min
PNR 98: Apple Is Spurring On the Next Generation of Advertising
In this episode number 98, Joe and Robert continue to explore the world of ad blocking. Are Apple, Google and Facebook all in this together, or are they conspiring against each other? Could there be a world in the future with all digital ads as content? In other news, Google launches mass a Gmail retargeting program to an inbox near you. Facebook launches 360 video, while Facebook Signal goes for the Twitter death march. Rants and raves include content strategy salaries and a great example of native advertising. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: The House of Mewar (India).
This week's story links:
ScribbleLive Raises 35 Million In Expansion Round Fundinghttp://www.marketwired.com/press-release/scribblelive-raises-35-million-in-expansion-round-funding-2057826.htmThe Ad Blocking Controversy Explainedhttp://www.vox.com/2015/9/18/9351759/ad-blocking-controversypaired with….Welcome to Hell - Apple Vs. Google Vs. Facebook and the Slow Death of the Web http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/17/9338963/welcome-to-hell-apple-vs-google-vs-facebook-and-the-slow-death-of-the-webpaired with…. Google Is Matching Facebook’s Targeting Capability http://digiday.com/platforms/google-looks-match-facebook-giving-advertisers-better-data-targeting/Facebook Launches 360 Degree Videoshttp://digiday.com/platforms/facebook-rolls-360-degree-videos-public-vice-star-wars/Paired WithFacebook Launches Signal - A Way For Journalists To Gather News Without Twitterhttps://www.facebook.com/facebookmedia/get-started/signalhttp://thenextweb.com/facebook/2015/09/17/facebook-launches-signal-a-way-for-journalists-to-gather-news-without-twitter/This week's sponsor: BrandPoint
Number Crunch: How a Content Marketing Platform Saves Time and Money
Time is work is money. How much time can a content marketing platform really save you? These hard numbers crunch out quite the story.
http://bit.ly/brandpointhub
Robert's Raves
http://www.roberthalf.com/creativegroup/blog/the-creative-group-salary-guide-salaries-projected-to-rise-38-percent-in-2016
http://observer.com/2015/09/advertising-doesnt-have-to-irritate-intrude-lie-cheat-and-generally-suck-2
Joe's Raveshttp://www.tubefilter.com/2015/09/25/pewdiepie-legend-of-the-brofist-app-store/
http://www.fastcocreate.com/3051488/the-wall-street-journals-in-depth-cocainenomics-is-a-netflix-ad-for-narcos
#ThisOldMarketinghttp://www.arvindsinghmewar.com/
http://www.webmarketingacademy.in/family-business-in-india/

Sep 21, 2015 • 1h 2min
PNR 97: The Coming Crisis in #NativeAdvertising
In this episode number 97, Joe and Robert discuss the launch of Apple's IOS9 update and what it means for publishers and brands as it pertains to advertising and content blockers. Following on that, the boys discuss the future of digital advertising, in particular native advertising, where Joe and Robert analyze a number of charts on the present situation with native. Twitter and Bloomberg partner on a key data deal, and Facebook announces the "dislike" button (or something like it). Rants and raves include content marketing measurement and the content marketing hype cycle. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: Burger Chef.
This week's articles include:
A Correction from last week.. John Cleese… http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/terrorismalert.aspIOS9’s Ad blocking features - will not only be for ads but... well for a lot of things… http://marketingland.com/not-just-ads-ios-9-content-blockers-can-also-block-analytics-143123
paired with...Advertising’s Existential Moment - the Value of Traditional Advertising is no longer clearhttp://www.foliomag.com/2015/advertising-no-longer-adding/
Consumers Can’t Tell The Difference Between Sponsored content and Editorialhttp://marketingland.com/consumers-cant-tell-the-difference-between-sponsored-content-and-editorial-142050
paired with...http://contently.com/strategist/2015/09/16/the-problems-facing-native-advertising-in-5-charts/
Twitter Announces New Deal with Bloomberg - Value of Social Data
http://www.socialmediatoday.com/social-business/adhutchinson/2015-09-17/twitter-announces-new-deal-bloomberg-underlines-value-social
A Facebook Dislike Button Is Coming soonhttp://mashable.com/2015/09/15/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-dislike-button/#fDDjREaw85kP
This week's sponsor: StudioD. Check out their "Content Marketing Files"http://go.studiod.com/ebook
Robert's Ranthttp://www.foliomag.com/2015/pros-cons-era-measurement
Joe's Ravehttp://www.velocitypartners.co.uk/our-blog/content-marketing-slides-into-the-trough-of-disillusionment/
#ThisOldMarketinghttp://doyouremember.com/younger-memories/the-delicious-rise-and-sad-fall-of-burger-chef/

Sep 15, 2015 • 59min
PNR 96: Content Marketing Technology Investments Top $1 Billion
In this post-Content Marketing World episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how content is moving to the middle, and investments in content marketing technology top the $1 billion mark. Just 17% can follow the buyer's journey and GroupM announce a deal with Buzzfeed that may or may not be big news. On the paper front, Uber announces a new "in car" magazine, which is printed...on real paper. Rants and raves include Beth Comstock of GE and John Cleese. This week's TOM example: The Story of Content: Rise of the New Marketing.
This week's story links:
Content Moves To The Middlehttp://www.cmo.com/articles/2015/9/8/content-moves-to-the-middle.html
paired with….http://blog.newscred.com/how-much-investment-industry-money-is-in-content-marketing-technology/
and...
http://contentmarketinginstitute.com/2015/09/roi-what-looking-for/
Only 17% of Brands Have The Ability to Fully Analyze Customer Journeyhttps://econsultancy.com/blog/66913-only-17-of-brands-have-the-ability-to-fully-analyse-the-customer-journey/
Buzzed makes deal with agency - for preferential rates and technologyhttp://adage.com/article/agency-news/groupm-inks-buzzfeed-deal-data-creative-media-discounts/300109/
Users Are About To Start Carrying an In-Car Magazinehttp://techcrunch.com/2015/09/10/ubers-are-about-to-start-carrying-their-own-in-car-magazine/
SPONSOR - STUDIOD presenting the Content Marketing Files: Download this guide now at bit.ly/studiod-cmfiles
Robert's Rave on Beth Comstock:http://www.thestreet.com/story/13277278/1/meet-the-ge-exec-who-s-reinventing-thomas-edison-s-light-bulb.html
This week's TOM Example: The Story of Contenthttp://contentmarketinginstitute.com/the-story-of-content-rise-of-the-new-marketing/

Sep 7, 2015 • 1h 1min
PNR 95: CMO Survey Finds Spending on Content to Outpace Advertising
In this pre-Content Marketing World podcast number 95, Joe and Robert talk about Newscred's $42 million dollar round and what it means for the content marketing industry. Google pushes hard on native ads inside Gmail, and what's wrong with content calendars (hint: you'll find out)? Rumors swirl around Apple launching original programming, and a CMO survey says content development tops the budget charts for 2016. Rants and raves include an "ode to Joe" and a publishing crisis. This week's TOM example: Weight Watchers.
This week's story links:
NewsCred Raises $42 Milion and sets its sights beyond content marketing
http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/02/newscred-42-million/
Google launches new native ad format in Gmail
http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/01/google-launches-new-native-ad-format-in-gmail/
The 10 commandments of Content Marketing
http://www.briansolis.com/2015/09/10-commandments-content-marketing-2/
Apple Eyes Move Into Original Programming Exclusive
http://variety.com/2015/digital/news/apple-eyes-move-into-original-programming-exclusive-1201582020/
How CMO’s Are Spending Across the Customer Buying Cyclehttp://adage.com/article/btob/cmos-spending-content-buying-cycle/300181/
This week's Sponsor: StudioD - bit.ly/studiod-cmfiles
Joe's Rant link on Ad blocker crisis - http://fortune.com/2015/09/04/sue-ad-blockers/

Aug 31, 2015 • 58min
PNR 94: Social Media Isn't Dead, We're Just Using It Wrong
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss an article about social media marketing being dead. Well, is it dead, or are most brands just using it wrong (the latter)? Podcasting is bigger and better than ever, and native advertising is NOT content marketing (let's say that together, shall we?). Rants and raves include experiences and a clear lack of strategy. This week's TOM example of the week: White Castle.
This week's story links include:
Can We Admit Now That Social Media Marketing Is Dead
http://withoutbullshit.com/blog/augie-ray-can-we-admit-now-that-social-media-marketing-is-dead
Podcasting Embraces A New Era of Cool
http://mashable.com/2015/08/29/podcasting-mainstream/#:eyJzIjoidCIsImkiOiJfY2o5bWZ3YTlqZ2xja2t2MCJ9
Native Advertising Is Not Content Marketing
http://contentmarketinginstitute.com/2015/08/native-advertising-content-marketing/
This week's Sponsor: StudioD presenting the Content Marketing Files. Download here - bit.ly/studiod-cmfiles
Rants/Raves
Robert's Rave on Experiences:
http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/consumers-experiences-things/299994/
http://www.commpro.biz/marketing/why-millennials-crave-experiences-more-than-things-and-what-marketers-can-do-about-it/
Joe's Rant on Lack of Strategy:http://www.socialmediatoday.com/marketing/expresswriters/2015-08-18/big-content-spend-how-where-are-brands-placing-their-content
This Old Marketing: White Castle

Aug 25, 2015 • 59min
PNR 93: 2016 Will Be the Year of Content Marketing M&A
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the big $48 million dollar purchase of content agency King Content, followed by a discussion around more M&A to come in 2016. Oracle buys Maxymiser for further proof. The boys then discuss, in detail, the F&W model that all brands can learn from, and, Facebook now draws more news traffic than Google (or do they?). Raves include the New York Times email newsletters and the opportunity for local publishers. This week's TOM example of the week: Sherwin Williams.
This week's stories include:
Isentia Buys Content Marketing Agency King Content in $48m deal.http://mumbrella.com.au/isentia-buys-content-marketing-agency-king-content-in-mammoth-48m-deal-313592
paired with...Can digital shops survive branded content boomhttp://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/can-digital-shops-survive-branded-content-boom-166388
Oracle Buys Maxymiserhttps://www.oracle.com/corporate/pressrelease/oracle-buys-maxymiser-082015.html
F+W Chairman Talks about the Company’s Decisive Strategic Shift to ECommercehttp://www.pubexec.com/article/content-change/
Facebook has Taken over for Google as a traffic source for newshttp://fortune.com/2015/08/18/facebook-google/
SPONSORStudioD and the Content Marketing Files. Download here: bit.ly/studiod-cmfiles.RAVESRoberthttp://www.themediabriefing.com/article/why-local-publishers-are-well-placed-to-become-service-providers
Joe
http://digiday.com/publishers/new-york-times-gets-70-percent-open-rate-newsletters/
This Old Marketing Example - Home Decorator Magazine (now STIR)
http://www.sherwin-williams.com/architects-specifiers-designers/inspiration/stir/

Aug 18, 2015 • 59min
PNR 92: End of Days for Digital Display Spells Opportunity for Brands
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk briefly about Google, or should we say, Alphabet, before moving on to a critical issue for publishers: Online Display Advertising and its demise. Then, the boys discuss the hi-jacking of the term "content marketing" and are journalists really content marketers after all. More content marketing research as well. Raves include Target and Nike's video program. TOM Example of the Week: Aldus Pagemaker.
This week's story links
Publishers Have Only Themselves To Blame For The Ad Blocking Apocalypse
http://fortune.com/2015/08/13/publishers-only-have-themselves-to-blame-for-the-ad-blocking-apocalypse/
The Journalists Who Refuse to Admit They’re Actually Content Marketers
http://www.forbes.com/sites/grantfeller/2015/08/11/the-journalists-who-refuse-to-admit-theyre-actually-content-marketers/
Only 2% of Marketers Have “Very Effective” Content Strategy
http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/2418856/only-2-of-marketers-have-very-effective-content-strategy-study
Also with this… ContentMarketing Inefficiencies Cost B2B Companies Nearly $1 Billion
http://www.toprankblog.com/2015/08/content-marketing-inefficiency/
Sponsor: Emma's Modern Marketer's Field Guide. Download it today: http://bit.ly/myemma-field-guide
Robert's Rave: Target and Trolls
Joe's Rave: Nike's YouTube Secret of Success - http://observer.stfi.re/2014/10/nikes-secret-to-success-on-youtube-its-not-the-viral-video/
This week's TOM Example of the Week: Aldus Pagemaker with Roger Parker - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-fox/30-years-ago-aldus-pagema_b_7880438.html

Aug 10, 2015 • 1h 4min
PNR 91: The Sad Future Reality of Brands Battling for Advertising
In this episode of PNR's #ThisOldMarketing, Robert and Joe discuss the future of content, and why so many brands and agencies are looking more at advertising opportunities than owning their own platforms. Facebook launches a new live video program for celebrities (at least for now) and the Uber of Agencies is coming to a town near you. Rants and raves include a MillerCoors video series and how some people get content marketing all wrong. This week's TOM example of the week: Arch Shaw.
This week's show links:
Why The biggest debate in advertising is irrelevant
http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/254270/why-the-biggest-debate-in-advertising-is-irrelevan.html
Introducing Facebook Live
http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2015/08/08/how-can-facebook-bring-its-live-video-feature-to-the-masses-messenger/
Paired With
http://media.fb.com/2015/08/05/introducing-live-for-facebook-mentions/
The Uber of Agencies: Why Marketers Want to ride with a new kind of shop
http://adage.com/article/agencies/future-ad-agencies-uber-model/299816/
SPONSOR
Emma's Modern Marketer's Field Guide: http://bit.ly/myemma-field-guide
RANTS AND RAVES
Robert's Rave on MillerCoors:
http://www.adweek.com/news/television/how-digital-media-agency-tapped-millennial-beer-drinkers-166228
Joe's Rant on "Why No One Cares about Your Content":
https://www.marketingmag.com.au/hubs-c/no-one-cares-content/

Aug 3, 2015 • 1h 2min
PNR 90: Chaos In the Media Coming Soon to a Platform Near You
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the craziness around the Hubspot scandal (and why these things seem to happen in Boston ;). Then the boys go in-depth into a series of articles about the media landscape. Will media companies just turn into wire service companies? Who really owns the audience? Where is this all going? After a short chat about podcasting, rants include Cecil the Lion and YouTube. This week's TOM example of the week: American Bee Journal.
This week's story links:
Content Marketing and the Finance Industryhttp://contentmarketinginstitute.com/2015/08/finance-marketing-evolves-content/Hubspot Fires CMO - Issues Ridiculous Press Releasehttp://venturebeat.com/2015/07/31/bostons-best-cmo-fired-from-hubspot-allegedly-tried-to-obtain-dan-lyons-tell-all-book/
Mutually Assured Contenthttp://www.theawl.com/2015/07/in-no-charts
http://www.vox.com/2015/7/22/9013911/is-the-media-becoming-a-wire-service
Podcasting Advertising On A Slippery Slopehttp://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/28/opinion/joe-nocera-stepping-on-a-slippery-slope.html?emc=edit_th_20150728&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=72268883&_r=0
How Corporations Became Documentary Film Fundershttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-30/how-corporations-became-documentary-film-funders
This week's sponsor: Emma and the "Modern Marketers' Field Guide.Download the guide now at http://bit.ly/myemma-field-guide.
Joe's Rant Link on YouTube:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/biggest-stars-youtube-huge-incomes-170409679.html
#ThisOldMarketing Example of the Week: American Bee Journal - http://www.americanbeejournal.com/site/epage/79325_828.htm