

fiction/non/fiction
fiction/non/fiction
Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.
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Aug 11, 2022 • 47min
S5 Ep. 36: Remembering Afghanistan’s Wars: Jamil Jan Kochai on Shifting Storytellers and Forms
Fiction writer Jamil Jan Kochai joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell almost a year after U.S. troops’ withdrawal from Afghanistan to talk about how the wars there will be remembered. He reflects on how growing up with Western stereotypes of Afghans made him want to revise false narratives, and also discusses how fiction’s flexible forms allow him to reorient his own thinking about the stories of war-affected Afghans and diaspora. He reads from his new book, The Haunting of Hajji Hotak and Other Stories.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Jamil Jan Kochai
The Haunting of Hajji Hotak and Other Stories
99 Nights in Logar
Jamil Jan Kochai Reads “The Haunting of Hajji Hotak” | The New Yorker
“Playing Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain,” by Jamil Jan Kochai | The New Yorker
Jamil Jan Kochai Reads “Occupational Hazards” | The New Yorker
Jamil Jan Kochai on Résumés as Stories | The New Yorker
Others:
U.S. is rejecting over 90% of Afghans seeking to enter the country on humanitarian grounds - CBS News
S4 Ep. 26: Bullshit Saviors: Helen Benedict and Nadia Hashimi on Depictions of the American Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
“Love and honour and pity and pride and compassion and sacrifice…” - by Nam Le Prospect Magazine
“The Indian Uprising” by Donald Barthelme | The New Yorker
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Aug 4, 2022 • 47min
S5 Ep. 35: The Fall of Boris Johnson: Margot Livesey on British Politics, the Brexit Blunder, and the Prime Minister’s Lies
Novelist Margot Livesey joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell from London to discuss the downfall of Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the legacy of his decision to “do Brexit.” Livesey, who grew up in Scotland, explains Johnson’s career of fabrications, talks about how Brexit looks now, and shares her experience of the recent heat wave in the U.K. Finally, she and the hosts analyze characters who resemble Johnson in literature–including the antagonist in Livesey’s novel The Missing World.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Margot Livesey
The Hidden Machinery: Essays on Writing
The Boy in the Field
Mercury
The Missing World
The Flight of Gemma Hardy
Others:
Protesters in UK decry climate change after record heat wave - ABC News
Quentin Blake
Roald Dahl
Matilda by Roald Dahl
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark
Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
The Guardian
Martin Amis
S5 Episode 6: Nadifa Mohamed on Writing the Convoluted Terrains of Immigration
Howards End by E.M. Forster
The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett
Barbara Kingsolver
Venetia Welby
J.G. Ballard
Have I Got News for You
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Jul 28, 2022 • 45min
S5 Ep. 34: The New Homeless: Emi Nietfeld on the Growing Number of Unhoused Americans
Memoirist Emi Nietfeld joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss how the pandemic has caused an increase in unhoused Americans as well as common—and off-base—tropes associated with homelessness. Nietfeld, who as a teenager spent time in foster care and living out of her car, talks about the American urge to view suffering as something that makes you stronger. She reads from her new book, Acceptance; reflects on being expected to shape a story about overcoming hardship to access an Ivy League education; and explains how she ultimately chose to resist simpler narratives of grit and resilience. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Emi Nietfeld
Acceptance
Others:
In the Midst of Plenty by Marybeth Shinn and Jill Khadduri
The Invisible Child by Andrea Elliott
Random Family by Adrian Nicole LeBlanc
Housekeeping by Marilynne Robinson
Miles from Nowhere by Nami Mun
United States: Pandemic Impact on People in Poverty | Human Rights Watch
Minneapolis: City Response to Homelessness
HUD Releases 2021 Annual Homeless Assessment Report Part 1
Homelessness in America
State of Homelessness: 2021 Edition
Inflation and rent increases are making homelessness worse - The Washington Post
America’s Homelessness Crisis Is Getting Worse - The New York Times
Rep. Omar Reintroduces Homes for All, Manufactured Housing Legislation
A New Bill Would Declare Housing as a Human Right - Progressive.org
Housing is a Human Right Act of 2021
H.R.4496 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Ending Homelessness Act of 2021
H.R.7191 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Homes for All Act of 2021
Guidance on Complying With the Maximum Number of Units Eligible for Operating Subsidy Pursuant to Section 9(g)(3)(A) of the Housing Act of 1937 (aka the Faircloth Limit)
Representatives Davis, Gomez, Peters, and Panetta Introduce the “Rent Relief Act of 2022” to Establish a Renters’ Tax Credit | National Low Income Housing Coalition
We Need to Keep Building Houses, Even if No One Wants to Buy
Congress is 35 years overdue on its promise to end homelessness | The Hill
Kansas City to Temporarily House Homeless People in Hotels
1780 Foster Kids Went Missing in Missouri
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Jul 21, 2022 • 42min
S5 Ep. 33: The Politics of Craft: Charles Baxter on How His Essays on Writing Respond to a Changing World
Writer and professor Charles Baxter joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his new essay collection Wonderlands: Essays on the Life of Literature, and how his thoughts on craft are linked to the times in which we live. He defines concepts he has used, including “wonderlands,” “Captain Happen,” “request moments,” and “toxic narratives,” and offers illustrations from literature and the world around us to show how these can inform the writing of fiction. For example, he explains, Donald Trump rejects his loss in the 2020 presidential election as a toxic narrative because it would change his understanding of who he is. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Charles Baxter
Wonderlands
Gryphon
Burning Down the House
There’s Something I Want You to Do
The Art of Subtext
Behind Murakami's Mirror | The New York Review of Books
Others:
Is the World Really Falling Apart, or Does It Just Feel That Way? by Max Fisher - The New York Times
S4 Episode 6: Hope on the Horizon: Charles Baxter and Mike Alberti on Despair and Renewal in Fiction
S1 Episode 4: We're All Russian, Now
World of Wonders by Aimee Nezhukumatathil
Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
Haruki Murakami
1Q84 by Haruki Murakami
Either/Or by Elif Batuman
The Lighthouse
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë
Dracula by Bram Stoker
The Wicker Man
Bennett Sims
Lacy Johnson
Get Out
Mike Alberti
Jamaica Kincaid
The Things They Carried by Tim O’Brien
Stacey D’Erasmo
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Dog Day Afternoon
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Jul 14, 2022 • 1h 4min
S5 Ep. 32: Happy Bastille Day: Will the Center Hold in France? Should It?
Poet Diane Louie and Editions Gallmeister editor Benjamin Guérif join Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss what recent losses by centrist President Emmanuel Macron’s party—combined with wins for the left and far right—mean for France’s political future. Guérif, a French citizen, and Louie, an American expat in Paris, talk about how small towns in France are faring economically and how the French view Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Louie also reads a selection of her prose poems from her 2020 collection, Fractal Shores.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Diane LouieFractal ShoresBenjamin Guérif
Editions Gallmeister
Actualitte
Rat Noir
Others:
French election: Six key takeaways as Macron falls short of an absolute majority | Euronews
A Fragmented Parliament Brings Macron Back Down to Earth - The New York Times
Who are the gilets jaunes and what do they want? | France | The Guardian
ENSEMBLE! – Mouvement
Rassemblement National
NUPES-2022.fr
What Do Dems Do Now? Thomas Frank on How the Left Can Counter a Rogue Supreme Court Season 5, Episode 31 of the Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast
Gertrude Stein
James Fenimore Cooper
François Bon
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Jul 7, 2022 • 55min
S5 Ep. 31: What Do Dems Do Now?: Thomas Frank on How the Left Can Counter a Rogue Supreme Court
Writer and historian Thomas Frank joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss how the U.S. can move forward in the wake of the Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade. Frank offers his perspective on what it would take for Democrats to win back control of states that have swung right in recent years. He also reads from his 2004 book What’s the Matter With Kansas?To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Thomas Frank
What’s the Matter With Kansas?
The People, No
Listen, Liberal
Rendezvous With Oblivion
The Wrecking Crew
Pity the Billionaire
One Market Under God
The Conquest of Cool
The Baffler
Others:
Caligula
Anatole France
Vladimir Nabokov
An Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations, by Adam Smith
More than 1 million voters switch to GOP in warning for Dems - The Washington Post
The Unpopular Tale of Populism: Thomas Frank on the Real History of an American Mass Movement Season 3, Episode 22 of the Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast
The Return of Socialism in America? Dana Goldstein and Thomas Frank on Season 1, Episode 17 of the Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast
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Jun 30, 2022 • 1h 10min
S5 Ep. 30: The Literature of Star Wars: Van Lathan Jr. on How American Life Shapes and Is Shaped by a Galaxy Far, Far Away
Podcaster and writer Van Lathan Jr. joins Fiction/Non/Fiction host Whitney Terrell to talk about growing up a Star Wars fan and continuing to think and talk about the franchise as a co-host of The Ringer podcast. He discusses the enduring qualities of the universe, the continuing relevance of the characters, and how the story intersects with American politics and literature. He also talks about and reads from his new book, Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales from the Trenches of Transformation.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Van Lathan Jr.● Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales From the Trenches of Transformation● The Midnight Boys● Higher Learning● The Ringer● The Red Pill● Two Distant Strangers● Hip Hop Homicides Others:● George Lucas● Kathleen Kennedy● Deborah Chow● Octavia Butler● Starwars.com● Superman● Buzz Lightyear Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 23, 2022 • 52min
S5 Ep. 29: ‘A War I Saw Unfolding Firsthand’: Héctor Tobar Reflects on the 30th Anniversary of the L.A. Riots
Novelist and journalist Héctor Tobar joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to talk about the articles he wrote on the L.A. riots both as they took place in 1992 and this year on the 30th anniversary. Tobar also reads from his 2020 novel The Last Great Road Bum, and discusses how his fiction writing and journalism have informed each other.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf. Selected Readings: Héctor Tobar● The Last Great Road Bum● Deep Down Dark● The Tattooed Soldier● Translation Nation● The Barbarian Nurseries● “The L.A. Riots Were 30 Years Ago. I’m Still Trying to Understand Them,” by Héctor Tobar● “COLUMN ONE : South L.A. Burns and Grieves : Life has been hard in the neglected area for years. But now, as self-inflicted wounds mount, residents fear for the future,” by Hector Tobar and Jonathan Peterson● “Tape of L.A. Police Beating Suspect Stirs Public Furor,” by Hector Tobar and Leslie Berger Others:● James Alan McPherson● Ralph Ellison● David Foster Wallace● Roger Ebert● Don Quixote, Cervantes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 16, 2022 • 56min
S5 Ep. 28: The Prose Version of That Blue Steel Look From Zoolander: V.V. Ganeshananthan Dishes on Blurbs, Jacket Copy, Cover Art, and All the Dark Arts of Publishing a Book
Novelist and Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast co-host V.V. Ganeshananthan talks to co-host Whitney Terrell about what happens to a book between writing and publication. Ganeshananthan’s second novel, Brotherless Night, about a young woman in the early years of Sri Lanka’s decades-long civil war, will be released by Random House in January of 2023. Ganeshananthan describes the editorial process, selecting and approaching other writers about writing blurbs, selecting jacket art, and writing cover copy. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:V.V. Ganeshananthan
Brotherless Night
Love Marriage
Others:
Celeste Ng
Sara Nović
Brit Bennett
Danielle Evans
Marilynne Robinson
Ann Patchett
Emily Barton
Jonathan Escoffery
Thomas Pynchon
Percy Jackson and the Olympians, Rick Riordan
Granta
New York Observer
“Bartleby, the Scrivener”
The Land Before Time
Reese Witherspoon Book Club
Zoolander
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
“Writers, Protect Your Inner Life,” by Lan Samantha Chang, Literary Hub, August 7, 2017
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Jun 9, 2022 • 52min
S5 Ep. 27: ‘Gun Violence Has Traumatized All of Us’: Amye Archer on the Long History of Mass Shootings
Writer and educator Amye Archer joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss her 2019 anthology, If I Don't Make It, I Love You: Survivors in the Aftermath of School Shootings, co-edited with Loren Kleinman. Archer explains how hearing the heartbreaking details of loss can prevent us from glossing over the staggering trauma of these events. Archer also reads from the anthology’s section on the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings, and questions why, as a nation, we haven’t changed the Second Amendment in response to modern weapons. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Amye Archer
If I Don't Make It, I Love You: Survivors in the Aftermath of School Shootings (pre-order paperback)
“Holding the Pain,” Longreads, July 2019
Others:
Gun Violence Archive
“What to Know About the School Shooting in Uvalde, Texas,” | The New York Times | May 30, 2022
“Medical Worker Rushed to Escape 'Labyrinth' of Offices in Tulsa,” by Alex Traub | The New York Times | June 2, 2022
“Gunman Kills 10 at Buffalo Supermarket in Racist Attack,” | The New York Times | May 17, 2022
“California Church Shooting Was 'Hate Incident,' Sheriff Says,” by Livia Albeck-Ripka, Shawn Hubler and Eduardo Medina | The New York Times | May 16, 2022
Full Transcript: Biden's Speech on Gun Control - The New York Times
“From Sandy Hook to Uvalde, the Violent Images Never Seen,” by Elizabeth Williamson | The New York Times | May 30, 2022
“For Uvalde, Caskets Adorned in Childhood Dreams,” by Emily Rhyne and Mark Abramson | The New York Times | June 2, 2022
“The Fourth State of Matter,” by Jo Ann Beard | The New Yorker, June 17, 1996
Elephant (2003) dir. Gus Van Sant
“Gun Violence, #NeverAgain and the Power of Teenage Protest,” Jim Shepard and Danielle Evans, Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 12
New York Times Sunday Review tweet of gun violence graphic
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