Podcaster and writer Van Lathan Jr. joins Fiction/Non/Fiction host Whitney Terrell to talk about growing up a Star Wars fan and continuing to think and talk about the franchise as a co-host of The Ringer podcast. He discusses the enduring qualities of the universe, the continuing relevance of the characters, and how the story intersects with American politics and literature. He also talks about and reads from his new book, Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales from the Trenches of Transformation.

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This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.

Selected Readings:

Van Lathan Jr.

● Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales From the Trenches of Transformation

● The Midnight Boys

● Higher Learning

● The Ringer

● The Red Pill

● Two Distant Strangers

● Hip Hop Homicides

Others:

● George Lucas