

fiction/non/fiction
fiction/non/fiction
Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.
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Sep 1, 2022 • 31min
S5 Ep. 39: The Long Shadow of Colonialism: Nobel Prize Winner Abdulrazak Gurnah on German Conquest in East Africa and His Latest Novel, AFTERLIVES
Nobel Prize-winning novelist Abdulrazak Gurnah joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the history and lasting effects of colonialism in African nations, particularly Tanzania, where he grew up, and which was once part of German East Africa. He reads from his book Afterlives, which traces the lives of young friends with different relationships to the schutztruppe, the German colonial troops. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Abdulrazak Gurnah
Afterlives
Gravel Heart
The Last Gift
Others:
Abdulrazak Gurnah – Facts – 2021 - NobelPrize.org
Abdulrazak Gurnah Refuses to Be Boxed In: ‘I Represent Me’ - The New York Times
Nobel Prize in Literature: Read About Abdulrazak Gurnah's Books - The New York Times
Stories of Familial Unrest and Displacement - The New York Times
In Tanzania, Gurnah’s Nobel Prize win sparks both joy and debate | Arts and Culture News | Al Jazeera
The English Patient by Michael Ondaatje
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Aug 25, 2022 • 47min
S5 Ep. 38: Chinese Conquest and Two Sisters Who Rebelled: Phong Nguyen on Vietnam Then, Taiwan Today, and China’s Interests Abroad
In the wake of Nancy Pelosi’s recent visit to Taiwan, fiction writer Phong Nguyen joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss China’s interests abroad. Nguyen speaks about his new historical novel Bronze Drum, in which he retells the story of Viêt sisters who led an army of women in battle against their Hán Chinese occupiers. He explains how their actions laid the groundwork for an independent Vietnam, and considers modern relationships between China and other countries around the world.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Phong Nguyen
Bronze Drum
Pages From The Textbook Of Alternate History
Roundabout: An Improvisational Fiction
Others:
Pelosi’s ‘reckless’ Taiwan visit deepens US-China rupture – why did she go?
U.S. Insists It Will Operate Around Taiwan, Despite China’s Pressure - The New York Times
The Princess Bride
Thelma and Louise
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Aug 18, 2022 • 45min
S5 Ep. 37: Fascism Past and Present: Anthony Marra on What the Censorship of 1940s Hollywood and Italy Can Teach Us
Fiction writer Anthony Marra joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss how his new historical novel, Mercury Pictures Presents, echoes the right’s current embrace of authoritarianism in the U.S. and globally. By looking at censorship in 1940s Hollywood and the fascist regime of Italy during that same period, Marra teases out truths about conservatives’ current interest in controlling popular opinion. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Anthony Marra
Mercury Pictures Presents
The Tsar of Love and Techno
A Constellation of Vital Phenomena
Others:
Frankenstein
Psycho
Lightyear
S5 Episode 13: Farah Jasmine Griffin: Censoring the American Canon
S5 Episode 12: Intimate Contact: Garth Greenwell on Book Bans and Writing About Sex
Doctor Faustus by Thomas Mann
Billy Wilder
Three Days of the Condor
Jason Bourne franchise
Ban on 52 Books in Largest Utah School District is a Worrisome Escalation of Censorship - PEN America
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Aug 11, 2022 • 47min
S5 Ep. 36: Remembering Afghanistan’s Wars: Jamil Jan Kochai on Shifting Storytellers and Forms
Fiction writer Jamil Jan Kochai joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell almost a year after U.S. troops’ withdrawal from Afghanistan to talk about how the wars there will be remembered. He reflects on how growing up with Western stereotypes of Afghans made him want to revise false narratives, and also discusses how fiction’s flexible forms allow him to reorient his own thinking about the stories of war-affected Afghans and diaspora. He reads from his new book, The Haunting of Hajji Hotak and Other Stories.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Jamil Jan Kochai
The Haunting of Hajji Hotak and Other Stories
99 Nights in Logar
Jamil Jan Kochai Reads “The Haunting of Hajji Hotak” | The New Yorker
“Playing Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain,” by Jamil Jan Kochai | The New Yorker
Jamil Jan Kochai Reads “Occupational Hazards” | The New Yorker
Jamil Jan Kochai on Résumés as Stories | The New Yorker
Others:
U.S. is rejecting over 90% of Afghans seeking to enter the country on humanitarian grounds - CBS News
S4 Ep. 26: Bullshit Saviors: Helen Benedict and Nadia Hashimi on Depictions of the American Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
“Love and honour and pity and pride and compassion and sacrifice…” - by Nam Le Prospect Magazine
“The Indian Uprising” by Donald Barthelme | The New Yorker
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Aug 4, 2022 • 47min
S5 Ep. 35: The Fall of Boris Johnson: Margot Livesey on British Politics, the Brexit Blunder, and the Prime Minister’s Lies
Novelist Margot Livesey joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell from London to discuss the downfall of Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the legacy of his decision to “do Brexit.” Livesey, who grew up in Scotland, explains Johnson’s career of fabrications, talks about how Brexit looks now, and shares her experience of the recent heat wave in the U.K. Finally, she and the hosts analyze characters who resemble Johnson in literature–including the antagonist in Livesey’s novel The Missing World.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Margot Livesey
The Hidden Machinery: Essays on Writing
The Boy in the Field
Mercury
The Missing World
The Flight of Gemma Hardy
Others:
Protesters in UK decry climate change after record heat wave - ABC News
Quentin Blake
Roald Dahl
Matilda by Roald Dahl
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark
Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
The Guardian
Martin Amis
S5 Episode 6: Nadifa Mohamed on Writing the Convoluted Terrains of Immigration
Howards End by E.M. Forster
The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett
Barbara Kingsolver
Venetia Welby
J.G. Ballard
Have I Got News for You
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Jul 28, 2022 • 45min
S5 Ep. 34: The New Homeless: Emi Nietfeld on the Growing Number of Unhoused Americans
Memoirist Emi Nietfeld joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss how the pandemic has caused an increase in unhoused Americans as well as common—and off-base—tropes associated with homelessness. Nietfeld, who as a teenager spent time in foster care and living out of her car, talks about the American urge to view suffering as something that makes you stronger. She reads from her new book, Acceptance; reflects on being expected to shape a story about overcoming hardship to access an Ivy League education; and explains how she ultimately chose to resist simpler narratives of grit and resilience. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Emi Nietfeld
Acceptance
Others:
In the Midst of Plenty by Marybeth Shinn and Jill Khadduri
The Invisible Child by Andrea Elliott
Random Family by Adrian Nicole LeBlanc
Housekeeping by Marilynne Robinson
Miles from Nowhere by Nami Mun
United States: Pandemic Impact on People in Poverty | Human Rights Watch
Minneapolis: City Response to Homelessness
HUD Releases 2021 Annual Homeless Assessment Report Part 1
Homelessness in America
State of Homelessness: 2021 Edition
Inflation and rent increases are making homelessness worse - The Washington Post
America’s Homelessness Crisis Is Getting Worse - The New York Times
Rep. Omar Reintroduces Homes for All, Manufactured Housing Legislation
A New Bill Would Declare Housing as a Human Right - Progressive.org
Housing is a Human Right Act of 2021
H.R.4496 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Ending Homelessness Act of 2021
H.R.7191 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Homes for All Act of 2021
Guidance on Complying With the Maximum Number of Units Eligible for Operating Subsidy Pursuant to Section 9(g)(3)(A) of the Housing Act of 1937 (aka the Faircloth Limit)
Representatives Davis, Gomez, Peters, and Panetta Introduce the “Rent Relief Act of 2022” to Establish a Renters’ Tax Credit | National Low Income Housing Coalition
We Need to Keep Building Houses, Even if No One Wants to Buy
Congress is 35 years overdue on its promise to end homelessness | The Hill
Kansas City to Temporarily House Homeless People in Hotels
1780 Foster Kids Went Missing in Missouri
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Jul 21, 2022 • 42min
S5 Ep. 33: The Politics of Craft: Charles Baxter on How His Essays on Writing Respond to a Changing World
Writer and professor Charles Baxter joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his new essay collection Wonderlands: Essays on the Life of Literature, and how his thoughts on craft are linked to the times in which we live. He defines concepts he has used, including “wonderlands,” “Captain Happen,” “request moments,” and “toxic narratives,” and offers illustrations from literature and the world around us to show how these can inform the writing of fiction. For example, he explains, Donald Trump rejects his loss in the 2020 presidential election as a toxic narrative because it would change his understanding of who he is. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Charles Baxter
Wonderlands
Gryphon
Burning Down the House
There’s Something I Want You to Do
The Art of Subtext
Behind Murakami's Mirror | The New York Review of Books
Others:
Is the World Really Falling Apart, or Does It Just Feel That Way? by Max Fisher - The New York Times
S4 Episode 6: Hope on the Horizon: Charles Baxter and Mike Alberti on Despair and Renewal in Fiction
S1 Episode 4: We're All Russian, Now
World of Wonders by Aimee Nezhukumatathil
Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
Haruki Murakami
1Q84 by Haruki Murakami
Either/Or by Elif Batuman
The Lighthouse
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë
Dracula by Bram Stoker
The Wicker Man
Bennett Sims
Lacy Johnson
Get Out
Mike Alberti
Jamaica Kincaid
The Things They Carried by Tim O’Brien
Stacey D’Erasmo
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Dog Day Afternoon
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Jul 14, 2022 • 1h 4min
S5 Ep. 32: Happy Bastille Day: Will the Center Hold in France? Should It?
Poet Diane Louie and Editions Gallmeister editor Benjamin Guérif join Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss what recent losses by centrist President Emmanuel Macron’s party—combined with wins for the left and far right—mean for France’s political future. Guérif, a French citizen, and Louie, an American expat in Paris, talk about how small towns in France are faring economically and how the French view Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Louie also reads a selection of her prose poems from her 2020 collection, Fractal Shores.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Diane LouieFractal ShoresBenjamin Guérif
Editions Gallmeister
Actualitte
Rat Noir
Others:
French election: Six key takeaways as Macron falls short of an absolute majority | Euronews
A Fragmented Parliament Brings Macron Back Down to Earth - The New York Times
Who are the gilets jaunes and what do they want? | France | The Guardian
ENSEMBLE! – Mouvement
Rassemblement National
NUPES-2022.fr
What Do Dems Do Now? Thomas Frank on How the Left Can Counter a Rogue Supreme Court Season 5, Episode 31 of the Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast
Gertrude Stein
James Fenimore Cooper
François Bon
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Jul 7, 2022 • 55min
S5 Ep. 31: What Do Dems Do Now?: Thomas Frank on How the Left Can Counter a Rogue Supreme Court
Writer and historian Thomas Frank joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss how the U.S. can move forward in the wake of the Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade. Frank offers his perspective on what it would take for Democrats to win back control of states that have swung right in recent years. He also reads from his 2004 book What’s the Matter With Kansas?To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Thomas Frank
What’s the Matter With Kansas?
The People, No
Listen, Liberal
Rendezvous With Oblivion
The Wrecking Crew
Pity the Billionaire
One Market Under God
The Conquest of Cool
The Baffler
Others:
Caligula
Anatole France
Vladimir Nabokov
An Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations, by Adam Smith
More than 1 million voters switch to GOP in warning for Dems - The Washington Post
The Unpopular Tale of Populism: Thomas Frank on the Real History of an American Mass Movement Season 3, Episode 22 of the Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast
The Return of Socialism in America? Dana Goldstein and Thomas Frank on Season 1, Episode 17 of the Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast
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Jun 30, 2022 • 1h 10min
S5 Ep. 30: The Literature of Star Wars: Van Lathan Jr. on How American Life Shapes and Is Shaped by a Galaxy Far, Far Away
Podcaster and writer Van Lathan Jr. joins Fiction/Non/Fiction host Whitney Terrell to talk about growing up a Star Wars fan and continuing to think and talk about the franchise as a co-host of The Ringer podcast. He discusses the enduring qualities of the universe, the continuing relevance of the characters, and how the story intersects with American politics and literature. He also talks about and reads from his new book, Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales from the Trenches of Transformation.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Van Lathan Jr.● Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales From the Trenches of Transformation● The Midnight Boys● Higher Learning● The Ringer● The Red Pill● Two Distant Strangers● Hip Hop Homicides Others:● George Lucas● Kathleen Kennedy● Deborah Chow● Octavia Butler● Starwars.com● Superman● Buzz Lightyear Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


