
The Joy of Why
“The Joy of Why” is a Quanta Magazine podcast about curiosity and the pursuit of knowledge. The mathematician and author Steven Strogatz and the cosmologist and author Janna Levin take turns interviewing leading researchers about the great scientific and mathematical questions of our time. New episodes are released every other Wednesday.Quanta Magazine is a Pulitzer Prize–winning, editorially independent online publication launched and supported by the Simons Foundation to illuminate big ideas in science and math through public service journalism. Quanta’s reporters and editors focus on developments in mathematics, theoretical physics, theoretical computer science and the basic life sciences, emphasizing timely, accurate, in-depth and well-crafted articles for its broad discerning audience. In 2023, Steven Strogatz received a National Academies Eric and Wendy Schmidt Award for Excellence in Science Communications partly for his work on “The Joy of Why.”
Latest episodes

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Jun 12, 2025 • 47min
Does Form Really Shape Function?
In this enlightening discussion, L. Mahadevan, a Harvard professor specializing in physics and biology, shares his passion for exploring the connections between form and function. He unravels the intriguing properties of Möbius strips and their implications in geometry. Mahadevan also delves into how brain shapes impact cognitive abilities, and the remarkable design of termite mounds as a model for energy-efficient architecture. His thoughts on the role of curiosity in science and the influence of environmental factors on biology add depth to this captivating conversation.

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May 29, 2025 • 49min
Will We Ever Prove String Theory?
In this engaging discussion, Cumrun Vafa, a Harvard Professor known for his groundbreaking work in string theory, explores the complexities and implications of his research. He addresses the challenge of proving string theory's validity amidst a landscape of infinite possible universes. Vafa sheds light on his swampland program, which aims to filter out non-viable theories, and how recent discoveries from the BICEP array have revitalized interest. The conversation also delves into the intricacies of dimensions and the quest for testable predictions in the field.

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May 15, 2025 • 46min
How Did Geometry Create Modern Physics?
Yang-Hui He, a theoretical physicist from the London Institute of Mathematical Sciences and University of Oxford, shares his insights on the profound role of geometry in modern physics. He discusses how ancient geometrical principles transformed into the language of theories like general relativity and string theory. Yang-Hui also reveals the tension between intuitive and formal mathematics and introduces the concept of 'birds' and 'hedgehogs' in mathematical thinking. Finally, they explore the revolutionary potential of AI in advancing mathematical physics.

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May 1, 2025 • 42min
Will AI Ever Understand Language Like Humans?
In this engaging discussion, guest Ellie Pavlick, a computer scientist and linguist at Brown University, delves into the fascinating world of large language models (LLMs). She explores the gap between LLM language processing and human cognition, questioning what it means to 'understand' language. Pavlick highlights how LLMs learn differently than humans and the implications for creativity and knowledge. The conversation examines the intersection of AI, art, and the philosophical questions that arise in this rapidly evolving field.

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Apr 17, 2025 • 43min
Can Quantum Gravity Be Created in the Lab?
Monika Schleier-Smith, a physicist at Stanford University, dives into the captivating world of quantum gravity. She explores a groundbreaking experimental approach attempting to create quantum gravity using laser-cooled atom clouds. Topics include the idea of gravity as an emergent phenomenon from quantum entanglement, her scientific journey from high school to patents, and the challenges of unifying gravity with quantum mechanics. With a focus on innovative methodologies, she sheds light on the potential for significant advancements in our understanding of the universe.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 39min
What Is the True Promise of Quantum Computing?
Dive into the intriguing world of quantum computing and its promise to revolutionize algorithm efficiency. Discover how young computer scientist Ewin Tang challenged conventions by creating classical algorithms that rival quantum advancements. Explore the complexities of recommendation algorithms like those used by Netflix and YouTube, and the delicate balance between quantum and classical solutions. The conversation unpacks the excitement, failures, and breakthroughs in this rapidly evolving field—showcasing the collaborative spirit of scientific inquiry.

Mar 20, 2025 • 46min
How Did Multicellular Life Evolve?
At first, life on Earth was simple. Cells existed, functioned and reproduced as free-living individuals. But then, something remarkable happened. Some cells joined forces, working together instead of being alone. This transition, known as multicellularity, was a pivotal event in the history of life on Earth. Multicellularity enabled greater biological complexity, which sparked an extraordinary diversity of organisms and structures.How life evolved from unicellular to multicellular organisms remains a mystery, though evidence indicates that this may have occurred multiple times independently. To understand what could have happened, Will Ratcliff at Georgia Tech has been conducting long-term evolution experiments on yeast in which multicellularity develops and emerges spontaneously.In this episode of The Joy of Why podcast, Ratcliff discusses what his “snowflake yeast” model could reveal about the origins of multicellularity, the surprising discoveries his team has made, and how he responds to skeptics who question his approach.

Mar 13, 2025 • 18min
S4 Preview: More Big Questions and No Sasquatches
Dive into the wonders of scientific inquiry! Explore how extremophiles adapt in harsh environments, revealing the unique biodiversity of caves. Engage with a lively debate on black holes and the fate of information. Reflect on the connection between mathematics and the natural world through personal stories. Discover how science and communication intertwine beautifully, inspired by Einstein's legacy. Prepare for thought-provoking conversations about the cosmos, evolution, and the language of computers that promise to spark curiosity!

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Dec 19, 2024 • 38min
How Will We Know We’re Not Alone?
Lisa Kaltenegger, an astrophysicist and astrobiologist at Cornell University, discusses the potential for life beyond Earth. She shares insights on the thousands of exoplanets discovered in our galaxy and the technologies needed to identify them. Kaltenegger explores the atmospheric fingerprints that indicate life and examines why advanced alien civilizations might choose silence. The discussion also touches on the habitability of moons and how learning from Earth's history can guide the search for extraterrestrial life.

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Dec 5, 2024 • 39min
How Is Cell Death Essential to Life?
Shai Shaham, a Professor at Rockefeller University, specializes in programmed cell death and its vital role in animal development. He delves into the various types of cell death, like apoptosis, and their importance in health and disease. The discussion uncovers how cell death influences evolution and our overall well-being. Shaham also shares insights on the use of C. elegans as a model for understanding cellular processes. Plus, he reflects on the joy and uncertainty of research, encouraging curiosity in the scientific journey.