Send us a textThanks to BSPHN for hosting this podcast. The BSPHN's annual conference is coming up on 9th-11th February 2021, and will showcase the efforts of behavioural science and public health towards COVID-19. Free for members, or the same price as an annual membership cost.This week Stu is joined by two PR and Marketing experts; Chloe Franses and Andrew Thomas.Chloe's experience extends from working as head of creative relationships at Amnesty International, to building authenticity for brands such as Formula E, and individuals such as Idris Elba.  Andrew is a commercial marketer and works in transformation, helping  individuals to thrive in the new digital economy.  The three look at how marketing and PR has changed over time - the world that Saatchi & Saatchi were working in, the persuasion  that was used, and how different the world is now with more transparency, and more competition for attention. They also discuss how the aims of PR has changed, from helping brands and organisations to 'not look bad' to showcasing how they create real social value not only for commercial profit for themselves, but to genuinely benefit the community. Using examples of the oil & gas and fashion industry and how audiences are more challenging of brands, and trends like 'green washing' led to the need to demonstrate better values.Chloe shares her experience of the power of celebrity endorsement and how it can tap into people's identities in a way that organisations cannot. Andrew expands on this notion of identity, driving brand loyalty throughout life.When looking at what healthcare can learn from marketing across industries, they explore that health messages are explained in a rational way even though people are often irrational in decisions around their health. They examine how this can be better aligned through simplicity, and a focus on who delivers the message. For example, the difficulty in undoing the glamourised imagery of smoking (even with the Suffragettes and torches of freedom) in order to encourage people to quit for their health. Contacts:Chloe Franses: Instagram, LinkedIn & website.Andrew Thomas: LinkedIn Stu King: Twitter, LinkedIn, Stu's Blogs

Send us a textRecorded: 19th Nov 2020Stu is joined by Dr Nisreen Alwan & Prof Susan Michie. Nisreen is Associate Professor in Public Health, University of Southampton. Susan is Director, UCL Centre for Behaviour Change & a committee member of Independent Sage.Nisreen shares her experience of long COVID, what it means and its effects. They look at how both those with long COVID and healthcare workers are affected - how the range of symptoms can be difficult to diagnose, causing anxiety. Plus, the challenge for patients of managing with such unpredictability.Nisreen and Susan discuss the evidence of who is at risk, including young people. And how the public messaging around COVID could do more to alert this group of the risks to their health & wellbeing. Nisreen shares the support available through healthcare and peer support.  And Susan shares how indieSAGE will be discussing it in order to advise the government. For more on long COVID, see the list of resources below including guidance on recovery & insights for healthcare workers.Thanks to the BSPHN for hosting. Check out the membership to connect with professionals in public health & behavioural science.Contacts:Dr Nisreen Alwan:@Dr2NisreenAlwan, N.A.Alwan@soton.ac.uk Professor Susan Michie:@SusanMichie, S.michie@ucl.ac.ukStu King:@Stu_King_Hh, LinkedIn Profile, Stu's BlogsAdditional Resources:Nature: A negative COVID-19 test does not mean recoveryThe Lancet: Underestimating the burdenBMJ: What is mild covid-19?Wellcome: Why the Term 'Long Covid' is neededBMJ: From doctors as patientsRCGP: Written evidenceRoyal Society ReportNIHR: Living with Covid19NHS: recovery guidanceThe Guardian: lingering heart damageJAMA: Long-term Health Consequences

Send us a textProfessor Ivo Vlaev is Professor of Behaviour Science at Warwick Business School, Warwick University.  He began his career working in the lab on understanding why people make irrational choices, observing reactions and what part of brain lights ups.  He is currently working on an integrated theory of behaviour change taking into account psychology, neuroscience, economics and other social sciences.Ivo is also the co-author of the MINDSPACE  report used by the UK government to design policy using insights from behavioural science and nudge theory, and was the basis for establishing the Behaviour Insights team.Ivo speaks to Stu about his integrated theory of behaviour change, and how it's aim is to create a taxonomy of taxonomies for consistent and comprehensive language to reduce confusion and better evaluate interventions from health to finance decisions. They discuss how traditional interventions are based on information and education, as well as focussing on targeting one particular kind of motivation. And how the worst examples can use the 'it sounded like a good idea at the time approach'. Although these can have good outcomes, they lead to a more piecemeal approach. Ivo suggests that the best cases use comprehensive theory and good methodology, for example in financial decisions, where an intervention targeted identity and the framing of people's actions in order to motivate a change in behaviour.You can find out more about Ivo's work and behaviour change in policy at:Warwick Business School websiteUCL Centre for Behaviour ChangeThe Behavioural Insights Team

Send us a textRecorded 3rd November 2020RWBS welcomes back Professor Susan Michie in the run up to another national lockdown. Stu and Susan discuss what has led us to this point, including the flaws with the current test, trace and isolate processes and the low adherence to isolating. From a behavioural point of view they discuss the reasons behind this low isolation adherence and why this differs between countries.Exploring the coined term ‘behavioural fatigue’, Susan shares her thoughts on why fewer people are following the rules as strictly compared to the start of the first lockdown, from trust, to time of year. They also look at the most affected groups - younger people due to the impact on their social networks, jobs and stability; as well as groups who already faced inequalities before the pandemic hit. On a positive note, there may be scientific, social and personal learnings from the last lockdown that means both coping with, and the outcomes of, a lockdown now give us hope for a more connected festive period.The episode references Independent SAGE - a group of scientists working to provide independent scientific advice to the UK government and public on how to minimise deaths and support Britain’s recovery from COVID-19. Follow and learn more on their website, Youtube channel and Twitter.Follow Stu King on Twitter, LinkedIn and through his BeeZee Bodies blogs to hear more about using translating behavioural science into reality.

Send us a textRecorded October 2019Firstly, apologies that this month's podcast is a little delayed! We at BeeZee Bodies are still working double time to support people to be healthy throughout this period.For this podcast I am joined by:Em Rahmen, Head of Public Health Workforce Development at Health Education England, Aoife Fortescue-Webb, Public Health Registrar at NHS West Midlands,Ashlee Mulimba, Health Psychologist at Healthy Dialogues Ltd.All three have been working on the Behaviour Change Development Framework (BCDF). It is a tool designed to determine the level of behaviour change training needed for each sector and level of Public Health practitioner, informed by, and appropriate to, the user. For more information on it, check out the video, "What is the BCDF?" https://vimeo.com/358296164 We discussed the background to the framework, how it has been developed as user-need focussed, and how they see it creating a more consistent behaviour change offering across all of Public Health. We discussed some scenarios of how it might supporting different job roles, from receptionists, police men and stop smoking practitioners.The assessment only takes about 2-3 mins to complete and breaks down what level of training might be appropriate, such as:Universal training (recommended for anyone in a Public Health setting) is a 1-hour e-learning toolkit to understand terminology & communication skills: https://behaviourchange.hee.nhs.uk/bcl-e-learning/workforce  Behaviour Change (BC) Level 1 BC Level 2 BC Level 3The full assessment and toolkits can be found at https://behaviourchange.hee.nhs.uk/  Just as a reminder we are recording this on behalf of the BSPHN, who exist to spread word about the importance and usefulness of behavioural science in public health. You can join for just £25 if you are working or £10 if you aren’t working or are a student so get yourself onto www.BSPHN.org.uk and join... why not do it literally right now? Go on!  

Send us a textThis episode is recorded in the midst of the Coronavirus lockdown and features Aline Holzwarth.Aline is an applied behavioural scientist, specialising in digital health research and scientifically informed product design. Her training in psychology and business, and her experience working in research and healthcare have given her the interdisciplinary lens necessary to appreciate the complexity of decision-making in the real world.  We discuss Aline's journey to Dan Ariely's research lab, where she works with illustrators, policy makers, and scientists to test behavioural research's validity in the real world. We look at the impact of the Coronavirus and lockdown, such as breaking down (sometimes decades worth of) barriers in healthcare and the longevity of the flip from in-person to digital interventions. Aline also shares some of her favourite examples of behaviour change in health, such as a simple change on a form leading to a huge saving.To connect and learn from people working in behaviour change across academia, industry and public health do think about joining the BSPHN. You can join for £25 if you are working and £10 if not including if you are a student, so there is no good excuse not to join!

Send us a textRecorded on 14th April 2020Apologies for the lower sound quality, we wanted to make sure we had both Jim and Susan on podcast as it gives richer content, however it did mean some technical difficulties.This episode comes out just as the lockdown has been extended for a further 3 weeks. In this episode we discuss what this further period of isolation and distancing means for the population. The potential for, and also ways to tackle, increases in loneliness, tension, and declining adherence, but why it is not appropriate to use the catch all phrase of 'behavioural fatigue' which has often been used. We also celebrated what the population has achieved - the work from frontline key workers, and that around 98% of the population has been adhering to the measures from the government, despite media coverage.With these measures we discussed the behavioural elements behind them - mist-interpreting people's reasons for doing things like going to parks or buying non-essential items. Susan and Jim described how the government could tweak simple messaging or actions to do a better job of explaining why these are being put in place in order to help people follow the guidelines.We finished by discussing the potential longer term impacts of this period such as demonstrating who is essential in our society, and reassessing how we live on a 'just in time' principle. In this episode Susan mentions 2 papers that discuss scientific understanding of isolation and impacts of current measures, here is a list of those, and other current evidence being used to advise the government:a. Webster RK, Brooks SK, Smith LE, Woodland L, Wessely S, Rubin GJ. How to improve adherence with quarantine: Rapid review of the evidence. Public Health (under review) Brooks SK, Smith LE, Webster RK, Weston D, Woodland L, Hall I, Rubin GJ. The impact of unplanned school closure on children’s social contact: Rapid evidence review. Eurosurveillance (under review) Brooks SK, Webster RK, Smith LE, Woodland L, Wessely S, Greenberg N, Rubin GJ. The psychological impact of quarantine and how to reduce it: Rapid review of the evidence. Lancet 2020, https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(20)30460-8 Rubin GJ, Wessely S. The psychological effects of quarantining a city. BMJ 2020; 368. https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.m313 Michie S, Rubin GJ, Amlot R. Behavioural science must be at the heart of the public health response to covid -19, BMJ Opinion, February 28 2020. https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/02/28/behavioural-science-must-be-at-the-heart-of-the-public-health-response-to-covid-19/ Michie S, West R, Amlot R. Behavioural strategies for reducing covid-19 transmission in the general population. BMJ Opinion, March 3 2020. https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/03/03/behavioural-strategies-for-reducing-covid-19-transmission-in-the-general-population/ Smith L, Yardley L, Michie S, Rubin GJ. Should we wave goodbye to the handshake? BMJ Opinion, submitted https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/03/10/should-we-wave-goodbye-to-the-handshake/ International surveys and polls on coronavirus, including public risk perception and consumer behaviour https://bit.ly/2xodaSm 

Send us a textSamuel Salzer joins me, Stu King, for this month's RWBS podcast. Samuel Salzer is an experienced behavioural strategist specialising in the digital health space. His work involves applying insights from behavioural science and behavioural economics to build user-centered and habit-forming products and services. In our discussion we covered how Samuel entered the field to where he is now with consulting work and his newsletter Habit Weekly. It now has thousands of subscribers and goes out to over a hundred countries.Samuel shared some of the best work he has seen such as mental health apps created with behavioural experts and research that showed how long it actually takes to form a habit! He shared his use of behaviour science to change his own habits - such as understanding why his long streak of learning a language every day still wasn't sticking. Samuel suggests the best way to start using behavioural economics in your work without being overwhelmed by all the content out there.You can check out and sign up to Samual's Habit Weekly newsletter yourself - it has something for every level, from leaders in the field to those just starting out.Don't forget you can become a member of the BSPHN for just £25 or £10 if a student for lots of benefits and access to content.

Send us a textThe fourth episode in this mini-series, recorded on 26th March 20, covers some big topics, including:Individual strategies to staying physically and mentally healthy during this challenging period of staying at homeThe governments response to date and what to expect in the futureHow we can come together as a society to care for each other and how this should continue after the immediate crisis is over.Stuart King, Professor Susan Michie and Professor Jim McManus discuss these issues in detail in this slightly longer episode than the previous ones. Unfortunately we lose Jim after just a couple of questions as he had technical difficulties as home. We are all dealing with small challenges like this as we adjust to home working, and in this case, remote recording.However, Jim still provides valuable insight in the beginning and Susan continues to provide valuable and interesting ideas for people; insight into the Government response to date and in the future; and some personal anecdotes that help contextualise how to use each moment and challenge as an opportunity to create healthy habits.Please send questions or comments to @stu_king_hh on twitter, add me on Linked In or email me at stuartking@beezeebodies.co.uk. If there are people you want to hear from or questions you want us to answer then let me know.Stay healthy; stay active; stay connected; but most of all - Stay Home!

Send us a textThe third episode in the coronavirus mini-series deals with the difficulties and realities of self-isolation.Stuart King, Professor Susan Michie and Professor Jim McManus discuss the behavioural reasons behind panic buying and other crowd behaviours, the need to sensibly and realistically plan for isolation, including preparing for how we might feel and react. Isolation is a time when we need to think about both our mental and physical health, but also that of others. They explore what people can do to create strategies to help keep in good health and look after others who are vulnerable.The conversation also touches upon the impact of isolation on income, here is a link to Money Saving Expert article on financial support.