
"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg
You’ll hear consequential ideas here first, and in the mainstream months later. Upstream is a curated nexus feed from the Turpentine podcast network, bringing you expert-level conversations hosted by some of the most compelling thinkers in the world including Noah Smith, Samo Burja, Byrne Hobart, Erik Torenberg, and Nathan Labenz.
Guests include Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Dario Amodei, Brian Armstrong, David Sacks, Sam Harris, Katherine Boyle, Curtis Yarvin, and many more unmissable conversations.
Latest episodes

Aug 9, 2024 • 28min
E71: Marc Andreessen on Higher Education and Tech Culture
In a captivating discussion, Marc Andreessen, a tech pioneer, shares insights alongside venture capitalist Sriram Krishnan and tech entrepreneur Aarthi Ramamurthy. They dive into the inefficiencies of traditional higher education, calling for innovative models that prioritize adaptability and real-world relevance. Personal stories reveal disparities in educational systems between India and the U.S., exposing the pressures faced by students. The trio emphasizes the importance of community and continuous learning in shaping the future of education.

Aug 2, 2024 • 54min
E70: Katherine Boyle on Religion, Journalism, and Polarization
Katherine Boyle, a journalist specializing in the intersection of religion and media, dives into how tech advancements have overlooked religious communities. She discusses the rise of digital faith and changing religious affiliations amid polarization. The conversation shifts to journalism, focusing on subscription models and the need for independent voices. Katherine also reflects on how COVID-19 impacted media dynamics and the necessity for diversity in journalism, emphasizing innovation's role in revitalizing both media and religious practices.

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Jul 26, 2024 • 1h 38min
E69: Balaji Srinivasan on the Rise of the Tech Counter Elites
Balaji Srinivasan, a prominent tech figure, shares insights about the shifting political landscape in Silicon Valley after recent events like the Trump assassination attempt. He discusses the friction between tech counter-elites and traditional political incumbents, exploring the impact of nationalism and global dynamics on the industry. Balaji critically analyzes movements such as the January 6th riots, while pondering the future of democracy and the evolving roles of elites in the tech space versus old guard institutions.

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Jul 19, 2024 • 52min
E68: Tyler Cowen on Talent, the Importance of Stamina, and Predicting Success
Economist Tyler Cowen discusses talent identification, founder compatibility, and predicting success with Erik. They explore assessing raw talent, late bloomers, building peer groups, and mentorship. Also, they cover hierarchies, surroundings impact, late bloomers, and success prediction in high-growth companies. In addition, they touch on race and minority issues in literature, book sequels, evergreen content, and interview techniques.

Jul 12, 2024 • 1h 19min
E67: A Deep Dive on René Girard with David Gornoski
David Gornoski discusses René Girard's Mimetic Theory, exploring its societal impacts, the concept of mimetic desire, and the influence of Christianity on society. They cover ancient rituals, Jesus as a social disruptor, scapegoating, and innovative solutions in conflict resolution. The conversation touches on foreign policy, sacrificial systems, and the importance of new mythologies in navigating technological advancements.

Jul 6, 2024 • 55min
E66: Noah Smith on 2024 Election Strategy, American Civil Service, and Cash Benefits
Economist Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg delve into American politics and societal issues: worst-case scenarios from the Chevron ruling, elite-working class disconnect, deep state myth debunked, Biden's age impact on politics, civil service importance, and cash benefits for poverty reduction.

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Jun 28, 2024 • 1h 11min
E65: Bret Weinstein on Evolutionary Biology, Markets, Moral Progress, and More
Evolutionary biologist Bret Weinstein discusses trade-offs in biology and economics, advocating for understanding rules to drive progress. Topics include female mate choice, role of markets in society, liberty vs profit, and navigating life's challenges. Touches on regulation, Game B solutions, and governance models.

Jun 22, 2024 • 1h 9min
E64: Richard Hanania on Trump's Genius, Antisemitism, and Election Predictions
Richard Hanania discusses surprising Trump support in Silicon Valley, reasons behind the shift, impact of religion on society, election predictions, controversial topics like pedophilia and age gaps, and future of the right and left post-Trump or post-Biden era.

Jun 14, 2024 • 1h 16min
E63: Balaji Srinivasan and Glen Weyl on Decentralized Governance, Politics, and History
Balaji Srinivasan and Glen Weyl discuss decentralized governance, politics, voting, and the future of a decentralized world. They explore radical exchange, societal governance, identity, libertarian views, income inequality, decentralized governance, drug policies, technocracy vs democracy, and rethinking political economy models.

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Jun 7, 2024 • 1h 7min
E62: Mike Solana on Thinking Freely and What Tech Means for Culture
Former VP at Founders Fund, Mike Solana, talks about controversial ideas, freedom vs. equality, resurgence of Marxism, roots of anti-American sentiment, libertarianism, hereticon conference, changing media landscape, individualism vs. collectivism, longevity research, AI development, Mars colonization, trauma as a status symbol, modern culture war, and anti-American sentiment in American culture.