

The Rollup
Face-to-face with the most important people in digital assets.
Face-to-face with the most important people in digital assets.
Website: https://therollup.co/
Website: https://therollup.co/
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Oct 19, 2025 โข 40min
How Humans Will Earn in the AI Economy with Jordan Gray from Public AI
Jordan Gray, co-founder of Public AI, delves into the rapidly evolving AI economy, revealing how 3.5 million people are monetizing their data. He discusses the immense value of personal data and the transformative nature of labor in this new landscape. With a focus on 'human-in-the-loop' roles, he explains how AI agents will begin requesting data from humans directly. Gray also explores concepts like the Model Context Protocol (MCP) and the importance of decentralized data markets, shedding light on the future of earnings in the AI-driven world.

Oct 18, 2025 โข 38min
How Institutional Money Is Changing Crypto Forever with James Seyffart
James Seyffart, a senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg focusing on digital assets, dives into the intersection of traditional and decentralized finance. He discusses the surge of over 150 digital asset ETF filings and the potential end of Bitcoinโs four-year cycle. Seyffart explains how institutional money is stabilizing volatility and gives insights on Huobi's innovative Ethereum treasury. He also compares gold and Bitcoin in the context of investment strategies, revealing the complementary roles they play in portfolios.

Oct 17, 2025 โข 43min
Why Stripe's Former Payments Lead Joined Polygon | The Stablecoin War Begins
John Egan, Chief Product Officer at Polygon and former Payments Lead at Stripe, discusses his career transition and the future of crypto payments. He delves into Polygon's strategy to dominate the stablecoin market and highlights the importance of subsecond finality in reducing settlement risk. Egan explores innovative applications for AI streaming payments and the role of interoperability through AgLayer. He emphasizes building resilient payment infrastructure amidst market downturns and fostering community through shared finance.

Oct 16, 2025 โข 2h 33min
Rollup TV: FraxFinance, BitDigital, ZKsync, Monad
Sam from Frax Finance, a stablecoin expert, dives deep into the causes of stablecoin volatility, explaining critical redemption practices and the pitfalls of on-chain risks. Sam Tabar, CEO of BitDigital, shares insights on pivoting from mining to an Ethereum-focused treasury, discussing the synergy between AI data centers and Ethereum. Alex G from zkSync highlights the importance of privacy and interoperability for institutions and introduces the Previdium initiative. Lastly, Toons from Monad recaps the chaotic airdrop claim launch, detailing community engagement and future plans.

Oct 16, 2025 โข 48min
Wyoming's State Token: The $3.7T Stablecoin Blueprint Going National | Anthony Apollo
In a groundbreaking discussion, Anthony Apollo, a public-sector crypto architect and Wyoming's Stable Token Commission director, reveals how Wyoming is leading a national stablecoin revolution. He explains the motivations behind launching the Frontier token, including funding education without raising taxes. Apollo discusses the stateโs innovative multi-chain strategy and the unique legal safeguards for token management. He also highlights the growing interest from other states and the potential for stablecoins to reach a monumental $3.7 trillion.

Oct 16, 2025 โข 2h 48min
Rollup TV: Superstate, Messari, Stabled Up EP 5, Wyoming Stablecoin Commision, Galaxy and Enso
In this engaging discussion, guests explore the forefront of crypto innovation. Jim Helpmere, co-founder of SuperState, covers the importance of issuer-led tokenization and partnerships with Galaxy, aiming to integrate on-chain securities. Anthony Apollo, in charge of Wyoming's stable token initiative, reveals the state's strategic plan to launch the Frontier token, promoting financial stability and multi-chain capabilities. Crypto commentator Tulip King shares keen market insights and modern trading perspectives, including the future of digital wallets as neobanks.

Oct 16, 2025 โข 2h 39min
Rollup TV: DeFi Dev Corp, Decypher, Money Moves Fast EP 5, AvaLabs
Join DK, founder of DeFi Dev Corp, as he discusses why Solana is the go-to for digital asset treasuries, revealing strategies like staking and validator operations. Jack Neewald from Decypher shares insights on regional trading cultures and the evolving landscape of tokenized equities. Meanwhile, John Egan of Polygon dives into creating a frictionless payment network, while John Nahas from Avalanche highlights the vision for scalable, tokenized assets. The conversation wraps with bold predictions for the future of crypto institutions and financial accessibility.

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Oct 14, 2025 โข 53min
The $40B Liquidation That Exposed Crypto's Biggest Problem - Framework Founders
Vance Spencer and Michael Anderson, co-founders of Framework and experts in crypto markets, delve into the shocking $40B liquidation that rocked the crypto world. They dissect how lack of transparency fuels systemic risks, spotlight Binance's alarming preferential deals, and highlight the importance of robust accounting standards. The duo navigates market structure, discussing which altcoins are worth holding and the potential of ETH as it seeks a bottom. They argue that increasing institutional scrutiny calls for transparency to restore investor confidence.

Oct 14, 2025 โข 2h 58min
Rollup TV: Klyra, Chaos Labs, Recall, Framework Ventures
Diogenes, a crypto commentator and founder of Clara, dives into the market's recent turmoil, highlighting geopolitical factors and liquidation mechanics. Omar from Chaos Labs discusses risk oracles and their role in stabilizing DeFi during dislocations. Andrew, CEO of Recall, introduces AI-driven verification systems, emphasizing how they can detect market risks. Finally, Vance and Michael from Framework Ventures share insights on market recovery strategies and the importance of transparency in asset selection. Tune in for a lively analysis of crypto's wild ride!

Oct 13, 2025 โข 26min
How Aptos Plans to Replace Visa with $500M in RWAs
Avery Ching, CEO of Aptos and a former engineer at Meta, discusses how Aptos is positioning itself to rival Visa with a focus on real-world assets (RWAs) worth $500M. He shares insights on the rapid growth of Aptos's USD1 integration, fueled by partnerships and decentralized finance. Avery reflects on lessons learned from the Libra/Diem days and explores the future of on-chain finance. He also highlights the importance of stablecoins in driving transaction growth and explains the innovative potentials of Chainlink's CCIP integration.


