

The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox
The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday. From the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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Sep 18, 2023 • 57min
Should we press pause on AI?
Stuart J. Russell, a professor at UC Berkeley and renowned AI expert, discusses the critical need to pause AI development for safety. He highlights the dual nature of AI, capable of great benefits yet posing significant risks if left unchecked. The conversation dives deep into the alignment problem—can AI truly understand human goals? They explore the implications of advanced models on society, stressing the necessity for regulatory frameworks to prevent misinformation and ensure that AI serves humanity ethically.

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Sep 11, 2023 • 51min
Democracy’s existential crisis
Astra Taylor, author of 'The Age of Insecurity' and co-founder of the Debt Collective, dives into the pressing need to defend democracy against rising authoritarianism. She reflects on our emotional connection to insecurity and how it shapes activism and engagement. The conversation critiques capitalism's role in fostering societal insecurities and advocates for community over consumerism. Taylor emphasizes grassroots organizing as essential in reclaiming political power and unity, linking various societal issues while fostering hope for a better democratic future.

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Aug 28, 2023 • 56min
Conservative socialism?
Sohrab Ahmari, author of "Tyranny, Inc." and co-founder of Compact Magazine, brings his conservative yet democratic socialist perspective to the table. He discusses the Republican Party’s trajectory post-Trump and the potential for new political coalitions. Ahmari critiques how cultural manipulation distracts from economic tyranny, emphasizing the urgent need to address worker rights and economic disparities. The conversation delves into the tensions between neoliberalism, freedom, and the potential for a more equitable political landscape.

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Aug 21, 2023 • 54min
The benefits of utopian thinking
Kristen R. Ghodsee, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania and author of "Everyday Utopia," discusses the importance of utopian thinking in shaping a better future. She delves into historical utopian experiments and their valuable lessons, alongside critiques of traditional family structures in today's post-pandemic world. Ghodsee emphasizes the significance of alternative community arrangements and diverse relationship dynamics, urging listeners to embrace imaginative ideas for social transformation.

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Aug 14, 2023 • 1h 4min
What Clarence Thomas really thinks
Corey Robin, a political science professor and author of "The Enigma of Clarence Thomas," delves into the intricate ideological journey of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. He explores how Thomas's hard-right views emerged from the failures of 1960s social movements and evolved into a mainstream conservative philosophy. Robin discusses Thomas's pessimism about racial progress, the complexities of his legacy on issues like capital punishment and abortion rights, and his influential judicial philosophy amidst the shifting landscape of American conservatism.

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Aug 7, 2023 • 1h 2min
The new crisis of masculinity
Christine Emba, a Washington Post columnist and author of "Rethinking Sex: A Provocation," dives into the evolving concept of masculinity. She explores why figures like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate attract attention from young men. The discussion reveals the struggles men face today, from educational disparities to socio-economic challenges. Emba emphasizes the necessity of redefining masculinity, highlighting the importance of role models and fostering compassionate relationships to address the contemporary crisis.

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Jul 31, 2023 • 53min
How we all became a brand
In this engaging conversation, Tara Isabella Burton, a cultural critic and author of 'Self-Made: Creating Our Identities from Da Vinci to Kardashian,' explores the modern landscape of personal branding. She delves into the evolution of identity from the Renaissance to today's social media-focused world, questioning the very idea of authenticity. Tara discusses how self-expression has shifted into performance, shaped by societal pressures, and examines the tension between individualism and community. This thought-provoking dialogue challenges us to reconsider how we craft our identities in a digital age.

Jul 24, 2023 • 48min
The therapeutic potential of MDMA
Rachel Nuwer, a journalist and author of 'I Feel Love: MDMA and the Quest for Connection in a Fractured World,' joins to explore the evolving perception of MDMA from a club drug to a potential therapeutic tool for PTSD. They dive into the neuroscience behind its effects, discuss powerful personal healing stories from MDMA-assisted therapy, and emphasize the importance of understanding its complexities and risks. The conversation reveals MDMA's promise in enhancing emotional connections and transforming mental health treatment.

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Jul 17, 2023 • 53min
Is the journey to self-discovery pointless?
Mitch Green, a philosophy professor at the University of Connecticut and author of Know Thyself, dives deep into the quest for self-knowledge. He discusses the limitations of popular personality tests like Myers-Briggs, emphasizing that true self-discovery is a lifelong journey requiring external feedback and confronting hard truths. Exploring Socratic philosophy, he highlights the importance of questioning one's own values. The conversation warns against the dangers of rigid self-identities and advocates for a more nuanced understanding of personal growth.

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Jul 10, 2023 • 47min
Parenting through the climate crisis
In a thought-provoking conversation, Elizabeth Cripps, a Senior Lecturer in Political Theory at the University of Edinburgh and author of "Parenting on Earth," shares her insights on the intertwining roles of parenthood and climate activism. She discusses the moral obligations parents have to combat environmental issues for future generations and the challenges of balancing nurturing with activism. Cripps also emphasizes the importance of preparing children for a climate-conscious world, advocating for both personal growth and collective action in facing ecological crises.


