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’Tis the season for a repeat episode. I chose this interview with musician Andrew Bird from the archive because he always reminds me of the holidays. Before I play my 2019 conversation with Bird, I speak about how an episode he recorded in 2020 with Maron impacted me, including his perspective on ‘molting’. Despite the discomfort I felt revisiting something recorded nearly 4 years ago and judging my past self, what Bird shared with me in our conversation feels as relevant today as it did then.  We covered the slow growth he experienced coming up as a musician, discipline in building his career, and how his strict classical violin training required strict adherence to rules—rules he ended up breaking to create his own signature style. He’s extremely prolific: since this interview was released, he's put out 4 additional albums, including his HARK! which I talk about in the introduction.In this interview, we focused on My Finest Work Yet, which had just come out. Like all his albums, it’s filled with smart lyrics and mythology (which we talk about in this episode) as well as fresh melodies and probing themes. Recorded  in a crowded room at a music festival,  the sound is different than usual. And you might notice some odd jumps from topic to topic as we made the best of the audio we had. You’ll hear us jump around from how he writes songs, to how he met his wife, how he spends his mornings, parents his son, and of course, how he began incorporating whistling. Happy Holidays!Show Notes:- A couple spots left in my one-on-one Creative Clinic: book a free half-hour session with me here to see if it's a good fit- Find Andrew on the Web | Instagram | Spotify- Andrew's 2020 Christmas album, HARK!- Andrew's episode on Marc Maron's podcast- My Finest Work Yet  & the song "Sisyphus"- Andrew's interview on Sam Jones' podcast- Great Expectations by Charles Dickens- The Adventures of Augie March by Saul Bellow- Lester Young - 2023 Holiday Workshops & all the Let It Out Kits- The TALK KIT is coming soon: sign up for the waitlist- Subscribe to our Substack to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp: visit betterhelp.com/letitout to get 10% off your first month of online therapyIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:- Episode 424 with Sam Burton- Episode 418 with Cale Tyson

This episode is part of my interview as a guest on Liz Tran's podcast, Reset. Liz is an author, executive coach, and founder of Reset NYC. In addition to her fifteen years of tech and VC experience, Liz also coaches from her spiritual practice. She is a Buddhist and a trained meditation teacher. Her latest book, The Karma of Success, came out in July. I interviewed her around then where we spoke about the difference between self-esteem and self-worth, how to be assertive without being rude, how she works with founders, and more. In this episode, Liz not only interviews me but gives me a coaching session on air. Among other things, we speak about the role of emotion in decision making, regret, feeling behind, moves and other transitions, whether everything happens for a reason, and the pressure to "keep up with the Jonses". Show Notes:- A couple spots left in my one-on-one Creative Clinic: book a free half-hour session with me here to see if it's a good fit- The TALK KIT is coming soon: sign up for the waitlist- Read my Laundromat Love Letter on Let It Out's Substack- Episode 339 with Eva, Laura & Maria- Find Liz on the Web | Instagram | Podcast- Order Liz's book, The Karma of Success- Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 413: Karma Success with Liz Tran, Founder of Reset NYC

Katie Horwitch is an author and advocate who helps women overcome negative self-talk. In this conversation, she shares the writing process behind her new book and discusses the evolution of friendships over time. Katie emphasizes the importance of starting with the self to transform negative inner dialogue. They explore managing social dynamics, addressing loneliness, and the concept of 'planned freakouts' to navigate overwhelming emotions. Katie also touches on the significance of authenticity, belonging, and self-love in personal growth.

In this episode, I speak with Shari Foos, a marriage and family therapist and the visionary founder of The Narrative Method. We delve into the power of human connection, discussing concepts like the "cult of culture," the transformative impact of uninterrupted sharing, and the art of hosting salons. Shari shares her wisdom on managing overgiving, navigating friendships, and sustaining romantic relationships. We explore the nuances of self-work and its profound influence on our connections with others, what makes a genuine apology, feeling misunderstood, and effective communication techniques. Join us as Shari reflects on her bold move to LA at 20, her experiences in acting and the music industry, returning to school to become a therapist, and relocating to NYC where she began her practice. Plus, we unravel the intricacies of neurodiversity and the challenges of managing intrusive thoughts, creativity, and the art of genuine human interaction. Show Notes: - Check out The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon with Shari below:11/12 - Sunday morning write w/ Shari Foos 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET11/14 - Tuesday night write w/ Dana Reynolds 4pm PT / 7pm ET11/15 - Wednesday conversation salon w/ Shari Foos 5pm PT / 8pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- My book, Let It Out: A Journey Through Journaling- Read about "soft stories" here- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com)- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout

This week I spoke with Zachary Hourihane, a journalist living in Singapore. After going to school in New York, he returned to Singapore and began his career working in journalism there. He now works in corporate advertising while simultaneously being a prolific pop culture creator. He delivers heavily researched video essays and his thoughtful perspective on pop culture on his channel Swiftologist. He has videos on everything from Lana Del Rey to Lorde to tk. Tk tk and he’s most known for chronicling the life and times of his favorite pop icon, Taylor Swift. He’s been part of the fandom for over a decade and for the last four years, he’s co-hosted the podcast The Evolution of a Snake where he and his co-host, Madeline Rubicam (writer of the Lizard Review), go through year by year and break down the catalog and career of Taylor Swift. We cover the Beatles-esque mania of Taylor Swift and Zack’s take on where it’s going from here, as well as how he got into the fandom, the early Tumblr days, connecting with his co-host Madeline, how he got into American pop culture, selective vulnerability and self-mythologizing, and his process for making video essays and keeping up with the pace of media while working full time, including how he takes care of himself amidst the busyness. We recorded this on zoom  a few months ago; it was late at night for him in Singapore and early in the morning for me. Let us know if you listen.  Show Notes:- Find Zachary on Instagram | YouTube | Podcast- This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below:11/12 - Sunday morning write w/ Shari Foos 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET11/14 - Tuesday night write w/ Dana Reynolds 4pm PT / 7pm ET11/15 - Wednesday conversation salon w/ Shari Foos 5pm PT / 8pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com)- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedaleboutIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 383: The 1 a.m. Conversation: New York Times Columnist Kyle Buchanan on Writing, Togetherness, Mad Max & More

This week is not an interview, instead it’s two clips from the second show I co-host with Serena Wolf, called Spiraling. It's our fifth season and this season is a little bit in the "messy middle," which I'll explain in the first clip from episode two. In it Serena and I talk about how stress and being “in process” affect anxiety, feeling stagnant, worrying about being behind, and how perspective is the ultimate reframe. It’s a toast to your next existential crisis…Then I play a clip from an unreleased episode where we discuss how we’ve been learning that taking breaks actually improves our productivity, while also touching on the surprising difficulty of committing to rest. Let us know if you listen! Show Notes:- Listen to Spiraling on Apple Podcasts | Spotify- Find Serena on the Web | Instagram- This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below:11/12 - Sunday morning write w/ Shari Foos 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET11/14 - Tuesday night write w/ Dana Reynolds 4pm PT / 7pm ET11/15 - Wednesday conversation salon w/ Shari Foos 5pm PT / 8pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com)- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedaleboutIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 411: We're Spiraling: Money Shame, Comparison, Marriage, Kids & Different Timelines

This week Cale Tyson returns. He’s a musician originally from Texas, now living in LA. He walked over the other day and we caught up about what’s happened since he was here last including his upcoming pop country album. We talk about his music trajectory from playing in emo bands in high school to beginning a music career in Nashville to touring as a classic country artist and now, making the shift to pop country. We also delve into our feelings around aging and entering what Richard Rohr calls, "the second half of life," bouncing between projects, attachment styles, dating, and learning to not take anything too seriously—especially yourself. Show Notes:- Find Cale on the Web | Instagram | Spotify | Book- Maddie's newsletter: Wait, Have You Read This? The specific Issue I read from: 06: Nice Guys- Listen to Cale's music and follow him on Spotify to find his new singles  - This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below:11/12 - Sunday morning write w/ Shari Foos 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET11/14 - Tuesday night write w/ Dana Reynolds 4pm PT / 7pm ET11/15 - Wednesday conversation salon w/ Shari Foos 5pm PT / 8pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox- A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com)- Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedaleboutIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 418: Cale remembers his thoughts: musician Cale Tyson on rehab, recovery & our neighborhood feeling like high school...

Melina Peterson, creative marketing agency owner, talks about the hidden effort behind appearing effortless, human design, astrology, leaving a full-time job, burnout, self-acceptance, and taking a career sabbatical. The speakers also discuss the concept of the 'cool girl' and its evolution, people pleasing, and the importance of finding alignment in career choices.

This is just a preview of Even the Royals....Admit it: you’re obsessed with royal families – watching them, gossiping about them, wanting to be them. It’s the stuff of fantasy. But for real life royals, the crown jewels can be more like shiny handcuffs. There are expectations and rules – and if you break them, the consequences are big, and very public. And no, we’re not just talking about Harry and Meghan. There are royal families and wild royal tales from around the world and throughout history that you have never heard before. From Wondery comes the latest from Even the Rich co-hosts Brooke Siffrinn and Aricia Skidmore-Williams, Even the Royals. They’ll take you inside the cloistered world of royal families, past and present, where wealth and status often come at the expense of your freedom – and maybe even your life. This is just a preview of Even the Royals. You can listen to the full episode exclusively on Wondery+.https://wondery.app.link/ETR_LIO

This week I spoke with iconic musician Moby, who has recently ventured into podcasting with "MOBY POD" alongside sustainability expert Lindsay Hicks. I met them both for the first time when I went to Moby’s house to record this a few months ago. We talked for hours about everything from the sunk cost fallacy to attachment and aversion. He’s candid about getting sober and his experience with fame and how that has impacted his perspective. A thread that runs through this conversation is perspective, nostalgia, and storytelling as well as attachment, connection, and self-awareness. Let us know if you listened. Show Notes:- This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below:11/12 - Sunday morning write w/ Shari Foos 8:30am PT / 11:30am ET11/14 - Tuesday night write w/ Dana Reynolds 4pm PT / 7pm ET11/15 - Wednesday conversation salon w/ Shari Foos 5pm PT / 8pm ETOR check the calendar for lots of other options!- Sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist- All of our kits, including the Podcast Kit & Interview Kit- Find Moby on the Web | Instagram| Podcast- Find Lindsay on Instagram- Books recommended:AttachedA General Theory of LoveMoby's memoir: Porcelain- Our newsletter to get show notes + more- Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 418: Cale remembers his thoughts: musician Cale Tyson on rehab, recovery & our neighborhood feeling like high school...