

Proof
America's Test Kitchen
We take America's Test Kitchen's inquisitive and relentless approach to telling unexpected, funny, and thought-provoking narratives about food and drink. This is not a recipe show. And this is not a show about celebrity chefs or what they like to eat. Proof plunges into history, culture, science, and the psyche to uncover the hidden backstories that feed your food-obsessed brain. A production of America's Test Kitchen.
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Oct 30, 2025 • 30min
The Hot Dog King: An Episode from The Sporkful Podcast
Today’s story, from Dan Pashman and The Sporkful, is about the people behind New York’s hot dog carts, and one man’s fight to keep his spot. From street corners to museum steps, street vending is a grind that is shaped by city politics, impossible permits, and everyday hustle. In this episode, we meet Dan Rossi, a Marine vet who’s spent nearly 20 years guarding his cart outside The Met, the most coveted location for selling a hot dog in New York City, and fighting for his right to stay.
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Oct 23, 2025 • 3min
A New Season of Proof Starts November 6!
Is the mushroom foraging business as innocent as it seems? What does it take for two cultures at odds to come together to make the ultimate fusion cuisine? How does the development of a viral cookie recipe work here at America's Test Kitchen? We answer these questions and more on the new season of Proof. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 16, 2025 • 42min
The Legacy of America's Culinary Founding Father (Part 3: The James Hemings Story)
In this three-part series, reporter Otis Gray explores the extraordinary life of James Hemings; the enslaved chef who forever changed American cuisine.
Episode three investigates the mysterious final chapter of James Hemings' life, exploring the unanswered questions surrounding the death of one of America's first great chefs. We also examine his undeniable legacy and the widespread impact of his cooking on modern day American cuisine and traditions.
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Oct 9, 2025 • 33min
The Bargain for Freedom (Part 2: The James Hemings Story)
In this three-part series, reporter Otis Gray explores the extraordinary life of James Hemings; the enslaved chef who forever changed American cuisine.
Episode two meets Hemings back at Monticello where his cooking became the backdrop to some of the most pivotal moments of Jefferson's political career and our country's history; all the while training his brother Peter in exchange for his freedom.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 38min
The Man Who Commanded Jefferson's Kitchen (Part 1: The James Hemings Story)
Otis Gray, an investigative reporter, delves into the life of James Hemings, an enslaved chef who transformed American cuisine. They explore Hemings' time at Monticello, his groundbreaking culinary training in Paris, and his influence on iconic dishes. The discussion highlights the gaps in historical records revealing Hemings' challenges and aspirations, his pivotal choices regarding freedom in France, and the intersection of culinary skills with America's complex history. Gray's journey uncovers a silenced legacy that shaped the nation’s food culture.

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Sep 4, 2025 • 53min
America's Beef with Beef
Avery Thompson, a frequent contributor and reporter, explores the meat paradox while reporting from a farm in Oklahoma. He shares his personal anecdotes, making the heavy topics of death and animal slaughter more relatable. The discussion dives into the psychological tactics we use to reconcile our love for animals with our meat consumption. Listeners are invited to consider the emotional complexities surrounding beef and the ethics of butchering, all while making mindful connections to their food sources.

Aug 28, 2025 • 36min
Has Airplane Food Actually Gotten Better?
What does it take to serve a dinner in first class at 37,000 feet? And are we in a new golden age of fine dining on airplanes? Reporter Emily Siner reports.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 57min
Was the Modern Gyro Invented in Chicago?
When reporter Justin Barney first moved to Nashville, he kept seeing signs for "Chicago-Style Gyros." Chicago-style? What's that? And why Chicago? These questions sent him down a deep reporting rabbit hole as Justin tries to uncover the origins of this enigmatic dish.
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Aug 14, 2025 • 51min
Brewing a Revolution: The Origins of Fair Trade Coffee
We often see labels that say "Fair Trade" -- particularly in the context of chocolate or coffee. But what does it actually mean for a food to be "fair trade"? Reporter Andrew Stelzer follows the people and revolutionaries who helped jumpstart fair trade coffee in the United States.
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Aug 7, 2025 • 50min
Tradwives and the Original Kitchen Influencers
In 1924, a man in Iowa named Henry built a radio station so that he could sell more seeds. Then, his rival Earl also created a radio station to sell more of his seeds. This rivalry laid the groundwork for the radio homemaker movement, where women—usually the men’s wives and sisters—filled air time sharing step-by-step recipes, dispensing advice and becoming early social media influencers recording straight from their kitchens, with fans writing letters by the thousands, and visiting the beloved hosts' homes by the busloads. We dive into who these radiomakers were in this episode of Proof.
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