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Jul 19, 2013 • 33min
Episode 11: Working From The Middle Of Nowhere
In this episode, I talked with Marcus Blankenship of CREO Agency. If you don’t live in a tech hotbed like SF or NYC and you worry that your location will hinder your ability to recruit clients, you won’t want to miss this episode.
I also mentioned my upcoming Skillshare course on value pricing proposals. Here’s the link.

Jul 14, 2013 • 33min
Episode 10: What Sets You Apart?
Today I talked with Nick Hance of Reenhanced about ways of setting yourself apart from your competition. If you’ve ever wondered how you, as say a Ruby developer, are any different than me (a Ruby developer) or thousands of other Ruby developers, you’ll want to listen to this discussion.
I also opened the show by talking about my upcoming bootcamp with Patrick McKenzie (patio11) on how to create recurring revenue for your consulting business. Here’s the link to the bootcamp.

May 27, 2013 • 27min
Episode 9: 4 Ways To Productize Your Consulting Business
I’ve recently been to quite a few “product” conferences ( LessConf, MicroConf and soon BaconBizConf), and what I keep finding is that a LOT of freelancers are in attendance. It’s no secret that most freelancers want to one day build and sell a product or two of their own, but how? How do you figure out what to build and ultimately sell it to the right people?
In this episode, I cover four ways that you can quickly start productizing your consulting business and escaping selling your time for money:
Retainers
Seminars / Webinars
Paid Newsletters
Coaching

Apr 8, 2013 • 37min
Episode 8: Dealing With Clients Who Want Upfront Quotes
This is the first episode of 2013 for The Business of Freelancing Podcast, and inside I cover everything you need to know about dealing with those pesky clients who want to know “How much is it gonna cost me?” We explore how to qualify new leads, offer an initial consult, and how to make it known that we’re consultants — not just guns for hire.
Here’s the letter that John wrote me that prompted this episode:
Biggest fear with new client? Pricing, definitely. What’s their budget, when it’s near impossible to drag it out of them? Will a standard quote, without knowing their details, turn them away without discussion or negotiation, before budgets or even depth of project is really known. It’s amazing how many times an initial contact requires blind quotes before required info can be determined. If I’ve at all described the situation, besides abandoning such clients, what to do?

Nov 12, 2012 • 40min
Episode 7: How Obie Fernandez Used A Book To Grow An Agency
Hosted by Brennan Dunn, Eric Davis, and special guest Obie Fernandez
Show Notes
00:23 - Obie Fernandez Introduction
Author of The Rails Way and The Rails 3 Way
Hashrocket
Prominent figure in the Ruby/Agile communities
Professional software developer since 1995
Started a user group in Atlanta for Extreme Programming
ThoughtWorks
04:11 - Importance of building a reputation and personal brand
Controversial blogging
Resistance against Java and then Rails
07:03 - Building a brand
Client demand for Ruby on Rails experience vs custom software
Reputation for delivery
Referrals and content marketing
14:08 - Productizing and Product Offerings
321 Launch
Rescue missions
Storycarding
23:39 - Custom Software Development
27:32 - Estimation and client participation
“Owning” the estimate
Resources
Obie - Sell Your By-Products by Jason Fried of 37 Signals, Obie’s Document Templates, 750 Words
Eric - StrongVPN
Brennan - How I went from $100-an-hour programming to $X0,000-a-week consulting by Patrick McKenzie
Action Step
Do an analysis of the work you’ve provided and that you’re getting referrals for, identify the commonalities, list them out in the ways you would list the features of a product and slap an identity on it. There’s your productizing effort!
Next Week
It’s a surprise (aka, we don’t know yet).
Transcript
We’re hoping to get a transcript later.

Nov 8, 2012 • 41min
Episode 6: Establishing A Sales Pipeline
Hosted by Brennan Dunn and Eric Davis.
Show Notes
00:50 - Sales Pipeline
Moving people through a series of steps to get them to be a paying customer
Acquisition to qualification to scoping to clients
04:11 - Content marketing to project delivery
08:02 - Tracking leads
Highrise
Fat Free CRM
PipelineDeals
Pipedrive
Whiteboard
Spreadsheet
12:29 - Networking
Referrals
Are they a good fit?
Do timelines overlap?
14:36 - Qualification
Why should this project exist?
Do you have budget?
When do you want to start? Are there deadlines?
Are they the owner of the project?
Is this a new type of project for your company?
How did you hear about me?
Are they talking to any other firms?
22:27 - Referring to elsewhere
End on a good note and don’t burn bridges
Provide value
Keep in touch and follow up when they are a good fit
26:02 - Scoping Meeting/New Client Consultation System
28:48 - Communication
FollowUp.cc
Patience
30:56 - Follow up after project completion
Resources
Brennan - Obie’s Document Templates, IndieConf 2012
Eric - Freelancing Weekly, PipelineDeals
Action Step
Reflect on your own business and put together a checklist of things that you ask a new client to qualify them and to bump up your professional factor by having a systematic icebreaker.
Next Week
Obie Fernandez
Transcript
We’re hoping to get a transcript later.

Oct 29, 2012 • 30min
Episode 5: Content Marketing For Freelancers
Hosted by Brennan Dunn and Eric Davis.
Show Notes
00:10 - Content Marketing
Making information available for personal gain/recognition
Duct Tape Marketing: John Jantsch
Getting to know you
03:51 - Getting content in front of people
Blogging
Screencasting
Publishing eBooks/PDFs
Podcasting
05:24 - Promoting and building an audience
Write with the intention of appealing to a specific audience
Collect email addresses
Infographics
07:38 - Appealing to potential clients and peer developers
Be business-focused
Hold impromptu marketing events
Referrals
10:27 - Working locally and organically
Building bits of content that reinforces what you’re good at
Revealing specifically where you are located and how to contact you
13:14 - Advantages of working locally
Time zone
In-person meetings
Puts people at ease
14:26 - How to market and network
Chamber of Commerce events
Community College talks
Libraries
16:32 - Recycling and tweaking content
16:49 - Online marketing
Guest blogging
Podcast interviews
Establish yourself in different communities (i.e. Facebook)
20:16 - Figure out your niche
Resources
Eric - Levenger Circa and Staples Arc notebooks. 15 Minutes to a More Creative You: Steve Leveen
Brennan - 5 Pricing Tips to Earn More on Client Projects: Ruben Gamez
Action Steps
Instead of writing a blog post for your own blog, find a different blog or a podcast that accepts guests and get yourself booked.
Next Week
Sales Pipelines
Transcript
We’re hoping to get a transcript later.

Oct 18, 2012 • 34min
Episode 4: Selling Through Teaching With Nathan Barry
Hosted by Brennan Dunn and Eric Davis with guest Nathan Barry.
Show Notes
00:19 – Nathan Barry ( twitter blog)
Freelance Designer
OneVoice App
Commit App
The App Design Handbook
01:14 – Show topic goals
Building a passive income stream outside a freelancing business
Balancing client work while developing products
How product offerings affected his freelancing business
Building products while freelancing
01:53 – Nathan’s professional career background
03:35 – Products to supplement a freelancing income
05:06 - OneVoice
06:59 – Building products while freelancing
08:12 – Having multiple revenue streams
09:44 - Commit
10:33 – Marketing
The product business feeds the freelancing business
Having your own projects generates business
12:36 – Books as the new business cards
14:37 – Getting paid to get leads
15:02 – Gaining trust and reputation
17:30 – Becoming the authority and educating and influencing clients
Offering freebies
Inexpensive products
Blog posts and mailing lists
22:48 – Teaching what you know and giving away information generates income
26:49 – Repeating your message
Resources
Nathan - Smashing Magazine’s The Mobile Book
Brennan - WiseCash
Eric - The Entrepreneur’s Notebook: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3
Action Steps
Start teaching. Setup a blog, pick 1-3 topics you know and want to be known for, and write them. Don’t over-think it, just start teaching.
Transcript
We’re hoping to get a transcript later.

Oct 10, 2012 • 38min
Episode 3: Understanding Pricing
Hosted by Brennan Dunn and Eric Davis
Show Notes
Fall in Virginia
Writing fiction
Pricing freelancing services
Double your freelancing rate
Reverse engineering your former salary
Value based pricing, value delivered to clients
Origins of your price
How to decide on a price
Cost plus – Cost of materials, cost of equipment, labor cost, and profit.
Commodity pricing
Lack of major expenses for freelancers when using a cost plus model
Cost of living
Market rate
Battle between supply and demand
High demand drive rates up, low demand drive rates down
Also a commodity based strategy
Economic substitutes
Imperfect market
Value based pricing (Consulting)
Hired as an investment
Goal is to make more money in the long run than the cost
Emotional need
Charge based on results
Reflecting on the customer’s business and proposing a solution to help
Using your skill (software, copywriting, etc) as a means to the end (business results)
Next Week
Interview with Nathan Barry. If you have any questions for him, post a comment below.
Resources
Brennan - Samson Meteor Mic, Shush Mac app, and The Strategy and Tactics of Pricing: A Guide to Growing More Profitably.
Eric - Million Dollar Consulting.
Action steps
Ask your next potential client questions that get at the business value of the project:
Why are you looking for this project?
What kind of financial outcomes are hoping a successful completion of this project will bring you?
What would you consider a failed project?
Try to get to the root of why the client is coming to you and see what you can do so you can deliver a substantial amount of business value to them.
Transcript
We’re hoping to get a transcript later.

Oct 3, 2012 • 43min
Episode 2: Making An ROI On Your Marketing
Hosted by Brennan Dunn and Eric Davis
Show Notes
Ways we have marketed our consulting services in our past.
Blogging, forum posting, content marketing, and social networks.
Technical blogging, business blogging, random thoughts blogging.
Investing into marketing activities
Products can drive consulting sales
Marketing sales funnel
Ask “how did you hear about me?”
Difficult to track every single person from marketing source to sale
Easier to track in teh aggerate based on source (e.g. Hacker News)
How to determine when to focus exclusively on one channel or avenue.
Know, Like, Trust
Multi-touch marketing across different channels
Increase your trust factor, e.g. Open Source, blogging
Referrals transfer trust
Diverse marketing sources are needed in case something changes to your primary marketing source.
Have at least one backup source that compliments your primary one, if not two backups.
Expensive conferences can be a good filter for clients who can afford your services.
Asking for referrals
Repeat clients
Reaching out to existing clients 1-on-1 to follow up with past projects.
Offering incentives or finders fees for referrals.
Well timed out autoresponders for new leads
Next Week
Pricing methods
Resources
Eric - Why are you trying to save time? and the question “What is it that we want?” to ask clients.
Brennan - RescueTime and MailChimp
Action steps
Look at where you’ve gotten clients in the past. What did you do to increase the trust from a potential client? What kind of investment you made and what kind of return did you get from it? Was that a good ROI?
Transcript
We’re hoping to get a transcript later.