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Stanford Law School
Law touches most aspects of life. Here to help make sense of it is the Stanford Legal podcast, where we look at the cases, questions, conflicts, and legal stories that
affect us all every day.
Stanford Legal launched in 2017 as a radio show on Sirius XM. We’re now a standalone podcast and we’re back after taking some time away, so don’t forget to subscribe or follow this feed. That way you’ll have access to new episodes as soon as they’re available.
We know that the law can be complicated. In past episodes we discussed a broad range of topics from the legal rights of someone in a conservatorship like Britney Spears to the Supreme Court’s abortion decision to how American law firms had to untangle their Russian businesses after the invasion of Ukraine. Past episodes are still available in our back catalog of episodes.
In future shows, we’ll bring on experts to help make sense of things like machine learning and developments in the regulation of artificial intelligence, how the states draw voting maps, and ways that the Supreme Court’s affirmative action ruling will change college admissions.
Our co-hosts know a bit about these topics because it’s their life’s work.
Pam Karlan studies and teaches what is known as the “law of democracy,”—the law that regulates voting, elections, and the political process. She served as a commissioner on the California Fair Political Practices Commission, an assistant counsel and cooperating attorney for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, and (twice) as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. She also co-directs Stanford’s Supreme Court Litigation Clinic, which represents real clients before the highest court in the country, working on important cases including representing Edith Windsor in the landmark marriage equality win and David Riley in a case where the Supreme Court held that the police generally can’t search digital information on a cell phone seized from an individual who has been arrested unless they first get a warrant. She has argued before the Court nine times.
And Rich Ford’s teaching and writing looks at the relationship between law and equality, cities and urban development, popular culture and everyday life. He teaches local government law, employment discrimination, and the often-misunderstood critical race theory. He studied with and advised governments around the world on questions of equality law, lectured at places like the Sorbonne in Paris on the relationship of law and popular culture, served as a commissioner for the San Francisco Housing Commission, and worked with cities on how to manage neighborhood change and volatile real estate markets. He writes about law and popular culture for lawyers, academics, and popular audiences. His latest book is Dress Codes: How the Laws of Fashion Made History, a legal history of the rules and laws that influence what we wear.
The law is personal for all of us—and pivotal. The landmark civil rights laws of the 1960s have made discrimination illegal but the consequences of the Jim Crow laws imposed after the civil war are still with us, reflected in racially segregated schools and neighborhoods and racial imbalances in our prisons and conflict between minority communities and police. Unequal gender roles and stereotypes still keep women from achieving equality in professional status and income. Laws barring gay people from marrying meant that millions lived lives of secrecy and shame. New technologies present new legal questions: should AI decide who gets hired or how long convicted criminals go to prison? What can we do about social media’s influence on our elections? Can Chat GPT get copyright in a novel?
Law matters. We hope you’ll listen to new episodes that will drop on Thursdays every two weeks.
To learn more, go to https://law.stanford.edu/stanford-legal-podcast/.
affect us all every day.
Stanford Legal launched in 2017 as a radio show on Sirius XM. We’re now a standalone podcast and we’re back after taking some time away, so don’t forget to subscribe or follow this feed. That way you’ll have access to new episodes as soon as they’re available.
We know that the law can be complicated. In past episodes we discussed a broad range of topics from the legal rights of someone in a conservatorship like Britney Spears to the Supreme Court’s abortion decision to how American law firms had to untangle their Russian businesses after the invasion of Ukraine. Past episodes are still available in our back catalog of episodes.
In future shows, we’ll bring on experts to help make sense of things like machine learning and developments in the regulation of artificial intelligence, how the states draw voting maps, and ways that the Supreme Court’s affirmative action ruling will change college admissions.
Our co-hosts know a bit about these topics because it’s their life’s work.
Pam Karlan studies and teaches what is known as the “law of democracy,”—the law that regulates voting, elections, and the political process. She served as a commissioner on the California Fair Political Practices Commission, an assistant counsel and cooperating attorney for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, and (twice) as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. She also co-directs Stanford’s Supreme Court Litigation Clinic, which represents real clients before the highest court in the country, working on important cases including representing Edith Windsor in the landmark marriage equality win and David Riley in a case where the Supreme Court held that the police generally can’t search digital information on a cell phone seized from an individual who has been arrested unless they first get a warrant. She has argued before the Court nine times.
And Rich Ford’s teaching and writing looks at the relationship between law and equality, cities and urban development, popular culture and everyday life. He teaches local government law, employment discrimination, and the often-misunderstood critical race theory. He studied with and advised governments around the world on questions of equality law, lectured at places like the Sorbonne in Paris on the relationship of law and popular culture, served as a commissioner for the San Francisco Housing Commission, and worked with cities on how to manage neighborhood change and volatile real estate markets. He writes about law and popular culture for lawyers, academics, and popular audiences. His latest book is Dress Codes: How the Laws of Fashion Made History, a legal history of the rules and laws that influence what we wear.
The law is personal for all of us—and pivotal. The landmark civil rights laws of the 1960s have made discrimination illegal but the consequences of the Jim Crow laws imposed after the civil war are still with us, reflected in racially segregated schools and neighborhoods and racial imbalances in our prisons and conflict between minority communities and police. Unequal gender roles and stereotypes still keep women from achieving equality in professional status and income. Laws barring gay people from marrying meant that millions lived lives of secrecy and shame. New technologies present new legal questions: should AI decide who gets hired or how long convicted criminals go to prison? What can we do about social media’s influence on our elections? Can Chat GPT get copyright in a novel?
Law matters. We hope you’ll listen to new episodes that will drop on Thursdays every two weeks.
To learn more, go to https://law.stanford.edu/stanford-legal-podcast/.
Episodes
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Oct 13, 2018 • 27min
Mental Health Challenges for Lawyers & Law Students w/ guest Kathryne Young
Kathryne Young, assistant professor of sociology at Amherst and author of "How to Be (Sort Of) Happy in Law School,” joins Pam and Joe to discuss the mental health challenges of high-pressure careers like law and shares tips that law students and others can use to improve their mental well being in school, on the job, and in life. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 15, 2018 • 28min
Fighting Opioids/Addiction in the Courts w/ guests Nora Freeman Engstrom & Michelle Mello
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "FIghting Opioids/Addiction in the Courts w/ guests Nora Freeman Engstrom & Michelle Mello" An estimated 510,000 people will die over the next decade from opioid-related causes. Should the companies that make and distribute the drugs be held liable? Professors Michelle Mello and Nora Freeman Engstrom share their thoughts on an issue that is increasingly ending up in our courts. Originally aired on SiriusXM on September 15, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 15, 2018 • 28min
Regulating Cryptocurrencies w/ guests Brad Garlinghouse & Joe Grundfest
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Regulating Cryptocurrencies w/ guests Brad Garlinghouse & Joe Grundfest" What are cryptocurrencies? Should they be regulated? How much? Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse and Professor Joe Grundfest answer these questions and more in this episode of Stanford Legal. Originally aired on SiriusXM on September 15, 2018. Recorded by Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 1, 2018 • 28min
Legal Advice for Temperamental CEOs w/ guests Joe Grundfest & Michael Callahan
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Legal Advice for Temperamental CEOs w/ guests Joe Grundfest & Michael Callahan" Stanford Law Professor Joe Grundfest and Michael Callahan, former GC of Yahoo! and LinkedIn, discuss the legal issues arising from America’s changing corporate culture where it is easier for CEO’s to speak off the cuff and take to social media without the knowledge of their lawyers-- sometimes to the detriment of their companies. Originally aired on SiriusXM on September 1, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 1, 2018 • 28min
Dress Codes, Style, and the Law with guest Richard Thompson Ford
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Dress Codes, Style, and the Law with guest Richard Thompson Ford" Can an employer force women to wear makeup and tell them what to wear? Do we have the right to style our hair as we pleased for work? Stanford Law Professor Richard Thompson Ford explains the relationship between dress codes, style, law, and bias-- and whether the courts are ready to address the issue. Originally aired on SiriusXM on September 1, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 4, 2018 • 28min
Eroding Union Rights with guest William B. Gould IV
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Eroding union rights with guest William B. Gould IV" Stanford Law Professor Emeritus William B. Gould IV talks about the recent Supreme Court decision that hinders the ability of unions to collect dues from their members. Originally aired on SiriusXM on August 4, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 21, 2018 • 28min
The Legacy of Justice Anthony Kennedy with guest Jeff Fisher
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "The Legacy of Justice Anthony Kennedy with guest Jeff Fisher" Stanford law professor and co-director of the Supreme Court Litigation Clinic Jeff Fisher discusses the career of retiring Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, his legacy, and the potential for many of his centrist decisions to be undone by the next court. Originally aired on SiriusXM on July 21, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 21, 2018 • 28min
Cities for Workers with guest Michelle Wilde Anderson
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Cities for Workers with guest Michelle Wilde Anderson" Stanford Law School Professor Michelle Wilde Anderson discusses her research into concentrated rural and urban poverty, which has taken her across the country to the many “dying” communities that no longer have a base of middle-class jobs. Here, she shares her view of our nation’s crumbling infrastructure, the impact on urban areas, and families and how we as a nation might help to solve this growing challenge. Originally aired on SiriusXM on July 21, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 7, 2018 • 27min
Purging Voter Rolls with guest Nathaniel Persily
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Purging Voter Rolls with guest Nathaniel Persily" Stanford Law Professor Nathaniel Persily discusses important recent Supreme Court decisions on voting rights including one that allows Ohio to take the names of certain voters off its roles. Will this and other decisions impact one party’s voters disproportionately? Originally aired on SiriusXm on July 7, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 23, 2018 • 28min
Working on Peace with North Korea w/ guests Allen Weiner & Scott Sagan
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Working on Peace with North Korea w/ guests Allen Weiner & Scott Sagan" Allen Weiner, Director of the Stanford Program on International and Comparative Law, and Scott Sagan, Political Science Professor at Stanford and Senior Fellow at Stanford’s Center for International Security and Cooperation, talk about the nuclear summit between President Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un and whether the agreement they hashed out will lead to a decline in tensions on the Korean peninsula. Originally aired on SiriusXM on June 23, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.