
Stanford Legal
Law touches most aspects of life. Here to help make sense of it is the Stanford Legal podcast, where we look at the cases, questions, conflicts, and legal stories that
affect us all every day.
Stanford Legal launched in 2017 as a radio show on Sirius XM. We’re now a standalone podcast and we’re back after taking some time away, so don’t forget to subscribe or follow this feed. That way you’ll have access to new episodes as soon as they’re available.
We know that the law can be complicated. In past episodes we discussed a broad range of topics from the legal rights of someone in a conservatorship like Britney Spears to the Supreme Court’s abortion decision to how American law firms had to untangle their Russian businesses after the invasion of Ukraine. Past episodes are still available in our back catalog of episodes.
In future shows, we’ll bring on experts to help make sense of things like machine learning and developments in the regulation of artificial intelligence, how the states draw voting maps, and ways that the Supreme Court’s affirmative action ruling will change college admissions.
Our co-hosts know a bit about these topics because it’s their life’s work.
Pam Karlan studies and teaches what is known as the “law of democracy,”—the law that regulates voting, elections, and the political process. She served as a commissioner on the California Fair Political Practices Commission, an assistant counsel and cooperating attorney for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, and (twice) as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. She also co-directs Stanford’s Supreme Court Litigation Clinic, which represents real clients before the highest court in the country, working on important cases including representing Edith Windsor in the landmark marriage equality win and David Riley in a case where the Supreme Court held that the police generally can’t search digital information on a cell phone seized from an individual who has been arrested unless they first get a warrant. She has argued before the Court nine times.
And Rich Ford’s teaching and writing looks at the relationship between law and equality, cities and urban development, popular culture and everyday life. He teaches local government law, employment discrimination, and the often-misunderstood critical race theory. He studied with and advised governments around the world on questions of equality law, lectured at places like the Sorbonne in Paris on the relationship of law and popular culture, served as a commissioner for the San Francisco Housing Commission, and worked with cities on how to manage neighborhood change and volatile real estate markets. He writes about law and popular culture for lawyers, academics, and popular audiences. His latest book is Dress Codes: How the Laws of Fashion Made History, a legal history of the rules and laws that influence what we wear.
The law is personal for all of us—and pivotal. The landmark civil rights laws of the 1960s have made discrimination illegal but the consequences of the Jim Crow laws imposed after the civil war are still with us, reflected in racially segregated schools and neighborhoods and racial imbalances in our prisons and conflict between minority communities and police. Unequal gender roles and stereotypes still keep women from achieving equality in professional status and income. Laws barring gay people from marrying meant that millions lived lives of secrecy and shame. New technologies present new legal questions: should AI decide who gets hired or how long convicted criminals go to prison? What can we do about social media’s influence on our elections? Can Chat GPT get copyright in a novel?
Law matters. We hope you’ll listen to new episodes that will drop on Thursdays every two weeks.
To learn more, go to https://law.stanford.edu/stanford-legal-podcast/.
Latest episodes

Apr 14, 2018 • 28min
Trade Wars with guest Alan Sykes
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Trade wars with guest Alan Sykes" Stanford Law professor and Director of the Masters Program in International Economic Law, Business and Policy Alan Sykes discusses the benefits and drawbacks of a trade war and what it would look like if President Trump decides to engage in one. Originally aired on SiriusXM on April 14, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.

Mar 17, 2018 • 28min
Building the Legal Foundation f/ Democracy w/ guests Erik Jensen & Sean Rosenberg
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman : "Building the Legal Foundation f/ Democracy w/ guests Erik Jensen & Sean Rosenberg" Erik Jensen, director of Stanford’s Rule of Law program, is joined by Sean Rosenberg, JD/MBA student and West Point grad who served in Afghanistan, who works with Jensen in the Afghanistan Legal Ed Project designed to help nations deal with the challenges of building a new democratic system of government after experiencing periods of upheaval. Originally aired on SiriusXM on March 17, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.

Mar 17, 2018 • 28min
Figuring out what voters want with guest John Krosnick
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman : "Figuring out what voters want with guest John Krosnick" Jon Krosnick is a Professor in Humanities and Social Sciences, Communication, and Political Science at Stanford. Jon shares his work on what voters say they want in a politician and how they expect their elected officials to vote and behave while in office. Originally aired on SiriusXM on March 17, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.

Mar 3, 2018 • 28min
Pushing Back Against Sexual Harassment w/ guests Emily Murphy & Deborah Rhode
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Pushing Back Against Sexual Harassment w/ guests Emily Murphy & Deborah Rhode" Emily Murphy, Stanford Law graduate and Associate Law Professor at UC Hastings, shares her story of harassment at the hands of former U.S. 9th Circuit Court Judge Alex Kozinski. She also discusses what little protections law clerks have if they are harassed. Stanford Law professor and director of the Center on the Legal Profession, Deborah Rhode joins the conversation to discuss the recent wave of sexual harassment allegations and what people can do if they are harassed at work. Originally aired on SiriusXM on March 3, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.

Mar 3, 2018 • 28min
Talking about guns with guest John Donohue III
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Talking about guns with guest John Donohue III" Stanford Law Professor John J. Donohue III joins us for a conversation about gun violence in America, and how the law is developing in the wake of mass shootings in Texas and Nevada and five years after the Sandy Hook Elementary School killings in Newtown, Connecticut Originally aired on SiriusXM on December 9, 2017.

Feb 17, 2018 • 29min
Fake news w/ guests Nathaniel Persily & Deepa Seetharaman
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman : "Fake news w/ guests Nathaniel Persily & Deepa Seetharaman" Stanford Law Professor Nathaniel Persily shares his expertise on American election law and what can be done to combat the Fake News problem. Reporter Deepa Seetharaman covers Facebook and other social media sites for The Wall Street Journal. She discusses some of her insights on how fabricated news stories are created and spread over online platforms. Originally aired on SiriusXM on February 17, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.

Feb 17, 2018 • 27min
Privacy and Body Cameras with guest Robert Weisberg
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman: "Privacy and Body Cameras with guest Robert Weisberg" Stanford Law Professor and co-director of the Stanford Criminal Justice Center Robert Weisberg discusses how technology is changing the laws designed to protect you from police searches and the use of police body cameras. Originally aired on SiriusXM on February 17, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.

Feb 3, 2018 • 28min
Enforcing Immigration Laws w/ guests Jayashri Srikantiah & Kavita Narayan
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman : "Enforcing Immigration Laws w/ guests Jayashri Srikantiah & Kavita Narayan" Founding Director of Stanford Law School’s Immigrants’ Rights Clinic and Professor of Law Jayashri Srikantiah joins Pam and Joe for a discussion about federal immigration enforcement and issues surrounding undocumented immigrants targeted by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Kavita Narayan also shares her experiences working with the federal government as lead deputy county counsel for Santa Clara County, one of the nation's many sanctuary counties. Originally aired on SiriusXM on February 3, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.

Feb 3, 2018 • 28min
Helping Our Veterans w/ guests Stephen Manley & Joe Reed
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman : "Helping Our Veterans w/ guests Stephen Manley & Joe Reed" Should veterans who come home from combat and find themselves caught in the criminal justice system be offered special help? In this episode, Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge Stephen Manley, who has launched special treatment courts for veterans and the mentally ill, discuss the need for special courts that offer treatment options to veterans and the mentally ill, including help for substance abuse, trauma, and PTSD, with the aim of keeping them out of prison. Stanford Law student Joe Reed, himself a Marine who served two tours in Afghanistan and has studied Veterans Courts, joins the conversation. Originally aired on SiriusXM on February 3, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.

Jan 20, 2018 • 28min
Untangling the New Tax Bill with guest Joe Bankman
Stanford Legal with Pam Karlan & Joe Bankman : "Untangling the New Tax Bill with guest Joe Bankman" Pam and Joe talk about the recently passed GOP tax law. Joe reveals who he thinks are the big winners and losers are and how individuals, corporations, and states are looking to reap maximum benefits. Originally aired on SiriusXM on January 20, 2018. Recorded at Stanford Video.