

Personal Injury Mastermind
Chris Dreyer, Rankings.io
Law firm marketing and growth strategies that transform personal injury attorneys from local players to market leaders. Each week, successful PI firms share with host Chris Dreyer their exact systems for client acquisition, legal SEO mastery, and sustainable growth – giving you actionable steps to dominate your market. From solo practices to nationwide powerhouses, every episode delivers battle-tested tactics you can implement today. Personal Injury Mastermind (PIM) is powered by Rankings.ioYou'll hear from industry titans like Joe Fried (Fried Goldberg), Alexander Shunnarah, Dan Morgan (Morgan and Morgan), Jennifer Gore (Atlanta Personal Injury Law Group), and John Gomez (Gomez Trial Attorneys), who break down their law firm growth frameworks into steps you can follow. Whether you're launching your first practice or expanding into new markets, PIM delivers the marketing and operational insights you need to accelerate your firm's success.
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Aug 22, 2023 • 24min
200. Ted DeBettencourt, Juvo Leads — Toolkit: Velocity, Chat to Convert
Ted DeBettencourt, co-founder of Juvo Leads, discusses the importance of speed in acquiring clients through chat services. He highlights the limitations of most chat solutions and introduces the benefits of Juvo Leads, a human-powered lead gen company that offers personalized conversations. They discuss the unique features of Juvo Leads, the impact of chat interactions on client reviews and referrals, and the advantages of human chat over AI. They also talk about lead tracking, call tracking software, and utilizing chat features to improve lead acquisition.

Aug 17, 2023 • 30min
199. Rex Parris, Parris Law Firm — Team Building Blueprint: A Foundation of Trust
Rex Parris, a renowned trial attorney, shares insights on stepping into uncontested markets, the power of brand recognition, and the importance of building a team based on trust. He discusses using cutting-edge technology in the courtroom, his journey into local politics, and the significance of time management and trust in trial proceedings.

Aug 15, 2023 • 38min
198. Jon Robinson, Consumer Marketing Group— Toolkit: Cheat Code, Optimized Digital Marketing
Jon Robinson, a decorated 15-year battle veteran of results-driven digital marketing, shares cheat codes for law firms to accelerate growth. Topics include geographic exclusion as a stealth tactic, investing in digital marketing for guaranteed growth, and the patience required for SEO. They also discuss hidden opportunities in niches, overspending and underspending DMAs, and the minimum spend for Google Ads. Strategies for optimizing digital marketing and effective investment in the personal injury space are explored, along with the impact of aggregated reviews on Google search.

Aug 10, 2023 • 29min
197. Brian Glass, Ben Glass Law – Create Time Freedom: Firms That Fit Your Lifestyle
Imagine your perfect day. Working uninterrupted from a coffee shop? Time for the kids after school? Getting to the gym? Now compare that ideal to a typical day at your firm. How much overlap is there? What if your work aligned seamlessly with your dreams?Brian Glass (@brianglassesq), Partner at Ben Glass Law (@ben_glass_law), lives that reality. His remote workdays involve deep focus and no distractions. Evenings are for family time and coaching his kids. And on weekends he's outside training for ultra marathons. We all have different ideals but know this: your dream lifestyle is possible.On today's episode, Brian’s insights will help you get one step closer. He created his ideal lifestyle by putting his employees first, redistributing his workload, and rethinking what it means to be ‘normal’.LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteBrian Glass LinkedInBrian Glass InstagramBen Glass Law Website Ben Glass Law InstagramBen Glass’ Great Legal Marketing Summit (Discount Code: Brian)Time Freedom for Lawyers PodcastEOS Delegate and Elevate WorksheetThe Art of War by Steven PressfieldWhat’s in This Episode:
Who is Brian Glass?
Why the customer is not always right.
How the company you keep will shape your life.
Why trusting each department to do their job can set you free.
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Aug 8, 2023 • 29min
196. Ryan Stewart, Webris — Toolkit: The AI Marketing Shift, How to Stay Nimble
AI is transforming digital marketing. It is shifting theory on organic and local search, keywords and content creation, and even how marketing teams are structured. Forward-thinking firms have much to gain by embracing AI early on. Today, Ryan Stewart offers predictions and practical ways to harness AI. Ryan, CEO of Webris(@WebrisAgency), The Blueprint Training, and Ryan Stewart Consulting, has helped thousands of firms up their SEO game and has been a top-tier marketer for over 15 years.Tools in this Episode:
Why disruption might be good for your bottom line.
How AI can aid strategic content management.
Why early adaptation will put you ahead of the pack.
LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteChris Dreyer WebsiteRyan Stewart LinkedIn Webris Website Webris FacebookWebris InstagramWebris TwitterWebris YouTubeWhat’s in This Episode:
Who is Ryan Stewart?
The future of SEO and conversion rates in an AI assisted world.
How to transform your staff from ‘doers’ tasks to ‘managers’ of AI systems.
How documenting and automating processes with AI can increase employee utility.
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Aug 3, 2023 • 37min
195. Alexander Limontes – Relentless Determination: A Financial Playbook for Forward Momentum
Grit and determination will get you farther than you think. When a firm first starts out or changes ownership, it's not uncommon for the cash flow to become unpredictable. Some cases can take two to three years to settle. The rent is due every month. It is easy for expenses to outpace revenue. So, how do you transform a firm with inconsistent income into a trusted powerhouse? Managing partner at Hurst Limontes Indiana Injury Lawyers (@hurstlimontesllc), Alexander Limontes shares the financial steps he took to get his newly acquired firm to succeed. Today Alex explains:
Why choosing clients over cash will make you rich.
How peer reviews attract more referrals.
The importance of taking the very next step.
LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteAlexander Jesus Limontes LinkedInHurst Limontes Indiana Injury Lawyers WebsiteHurst Limontes InstagramHurst Limontes FacebookHurst Limontes TwitterWhat’s in This Episode:
Who is Alexander Limontes?
The advantages of solving for the individual client.
Why hiring carefully and caring for your team, even in lean times, will set you ahead.
The importance of building a strong marketing foundation of great content early on.
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Aug 1, 2023 • 30min
194. Dmitriy Kozlov, Influex — Toolkit: Never Fit In, Branding with Impact
The best never fit in. They stand out. In a heard of firms that all shouting that they “win more” and “care more”, it pays to break with the pack and deliver a message of value. Today, Dmitriy Kozlov (@dkozlov), Chief Expression Officer at INFLUEX shows us how. Discover how to:
Uncover your origin story and infuse your marketing with authenticity to captivate your audience.
Position yourself as the trusted guide - not the hero! Shape your messaging around serving clients.
Establish authority and credibility but sharing your expertise through content marketing.
LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteChris Dreyer WebsiteDmitriy Kozlov LinkedInDmitriy Kozlov Instagram Dmitriy Kozlov FacebookINFLUEX Website Dmitriy Kozlov WebsiteWhat’s in This Episode:
Who is Dmitriy Kozlov?
How to build a memorable brand with core values.
The importance of infusing personality into a law firm brand
Why partnering with specialists and vendors will amplify the impact of your digital presence.
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Jul 27, 2023 • 40min
193. Ethen Ostroff, Ethen Ostroff Law – Outbound Intake: Get the Most Out of Existing Leads
Don't let that next most important case slip through the cracks. Call that lead back! Not following up is a missed opportunity to capture the leads that you've worked so hard, and spent so much money, to get. Founder and CEO of Ethen Ostroff Law ( @ethenostrofflaw ), Ethen Ostroff understands this and has developed an incredibly successful system that he shares with us today. In fact, this system is SO successful that he has partnered with Bill Hauesr of SMB Team to fulfill his vision: to place a million jobs. Ethen breaks down the exact social media strategy he uses to get leads for just five to ten dollars, how to successfully set up an outbound follow-up team, and how virtual assistance can help grow your firm even after the leads have signed on. LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteChris Dreyer WebsiteEthen Ostroff LinkedInEthen Ostroff Law Website Ethen Ostroff Law InstagramEthen Ostroff YouTubeEthen Ostroff Law TikTokWhat’s in This Episode:
Who is Ethen Ostroff?
How does Ethen use Facebook to acquire $10 personal injury leads?
How virtual assistants can help with an outbound lead follow-up strategy.
How to establish an org chart for your intake team that will fill your pipeline.
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Jul 25, 2023 • 24min
192. Lauren Mingee, Quintessa Marketing – Toolkit: Dominate New Markets, Boost Lead Conversions
Generating leads is only half the battle. The war to boost ROI is won only when those leads become signed cases. Many lead generation agencies supply leads and leave the task of conversion to the law firm. Lauren Mingee (@laurenvon22), founder and CEO of Quintessa Marketing, goes a step further. When a firm partners with Quintessa Marketing (@quintessamarketing1), they receive qualified leads signed onto a retainer within 24 hours. This is a game changer for firms looking to test the waters in new markets, go remote, or who want to fill their pipeline without learning the ins and outs of marketing. Today, Lauren explains how to systematize lead follow-up for consistent conversion, why intake teams need to be compensated like a sales team, and why seeding the lead pipeline in a new pipeline will grow a winning referral network.LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteChris Dreyer WebsiteLauren Mingee BioQuintessa Marketing Website Lauren Mingee Instagram Quintessa Marketing InstagramWhat’s in This Episode:
Who is Laurne Mingee?
Why firms should pay top dollar for high-performing intake teams.
What to look for in a lead generation partner.
How to get referrals early on an build a network in new markets.
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Jul 20, 2023 • 20min
191. Colin Sherrod – Bonus: Threads from Meta, The Comprehensive Marketing Guide
On today’s special bonus episode of PIM, we take a deep dive into the social media platform taking the world by storm: Threads. This new offering from Mark Zuckerber’s Meta may feel familiar — the micro-blog, text-first, conversation-driven space looks a WHOLE lot like Twitter. With over 100 Million new users in less than five days, Threads is a force brimming with marketing potential. But are the design aesthetics of Instagram and early momentum enough to hold users' attention in the long run? How can law firms best leverage this new media? Can Threads really be the “Twitter killer”? PIM Ambassador Colin Sherrod asks Chris Dreyer (@chrisdeyerco), CEO of Rankings.io and reveals everything you want and need to know about Threads. LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteChris Dreyer WebsiteWhat’s in This Episode:
What is Threads?
How should marketing teams be using threads to gain traction early on?
What are the best practices for content and posting frequency on Threads?
Is Threads here to stay?
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels