

Personal Injury Mastermind
Chris Dreyer, Rankings.io
Law firm marketing and growth strategies that transform personal injury attorneys from local players to market leaders. Each week, successful PI firms share with host Chris Dreyer their exact systems for client acquisition, legal SEO mastery, and sustainable growth – giving you actionable steps to dominate your market. From solo practices to nationwide powerhouses, every episode delivers battle-tested tactics you can implement today. Personal Injury Mastermind (PIM) is powered by Rankings.ioYou'll hear from industry titans like Joe Fried (Fried Goldberg), Alexander Shunnarah, Dan Morgan (Morgan and Morgan), Jennifer Gore (Atlanta Personal Injury Law Group), and John Gomez (Gomez Trial Attorneys), who break down their law firm growth frameworks into steps you can follow. Whether you're launching your first practice or expanding into new markets, PIM delivers the marketing and operational insights you need to accelerate your firm's success.
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Oct 3, 2023 • 21min
212. Best of Toolkit Tuesday: AI and Accelerated Law Firm Growth
From generating content ideas to streamlining backend processes, AI has the power to increase efficiencies and boost revenue. But it is not without its limitations. To help guide you along the knife edge of innovation, we hear from some of the leaders in the legal tech space. We unpack how AI can flip SEO on its head to boost your marketing. This episode has actionable tips to leverage AI and supercharge productivity. Join us for this special edition on how to harness artificial intelligence and give your firm THE competitive edge.Tools in this Episode:
Ryan Stewart, Webris on flipping the keyword funnel
James Grant, Georgia Trial Attorneys on implementing AI-based processes
Ken Hardison, PILMMA on how AI levels the playing field for small firms
Kyle Roof, Page Optimizer Pro on separating the AI hype from reality.
LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteRyan Stewart LinkedIn Webris Website Webris FacebookWebris InstagramWebris TwitterWebris YouTubeJames Grant LinkedInJames Grant InstagramJames Grant TikTokGeorgia Trial Attorneys at Kirchen & Grant WebsiteKen Hardison LinkedInPILMMA WebsitePILMMA InstagramKen Hardison InstagramKyle Roof LinkedIn Kyle Roof Facebook Kyle Roof Website SEO Fight ClubPage Optimizer ProWhat’s in This Episode:
How AI can boost productivity at every firm.
Why disruption is a good thing and the opportunities in AI to adopt early on.
How AI can streamline operations and client interactions
Why AI still requires a human touch.
Featured Episodes
196. Ryan Stewart, Webris — Toolkit: The AI Marketing Shift, How to Stay Nimble
175. James Grant, Georgia Trial Attorneys — Litigation Partners: Maximize Revenue, Recover Freedom
204. Ken Hardison, PILMMA — Toolkit: Shortcut to Law Firm Growth, AI and Operations
210. Kyle Roof, Page Optimizer Pro — Toolkit: Data-Driven SEO Strategies: The Formula for First Page Rankings
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Sep 28, 2023 • 30min
211. Christy Childers, Childers & McCaine — Break the mold: Find Your Squad and Shake Things Up
Buck conventions and shake things up—that’s Christy Childers’ (@childersmccain) approach to building a standout legal practice. This trucking legend and founder of the Mother Truckers and Childers + McCaine wants to spark creativity and innovation in the field. How? By having “no limit experiences” that disrupt the status quo. Christy is talking reinvented CLEs, niche expertise, and next-level storytelling techniques. Unconventional approaches most lawyers would avoid, but can transform your practice when done right. Toss out predictability and break the trial lawyer mold. Christy shares her rule-breaking methods that help attorneys push boundaries and reimagine success. With insights from this bold attorney and founder of the Georgia Association of Women Lawyers, you’ll uncover new ways to shock complacency and achieve game-changing results.LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteChristy Crow Childers LinkedIn Childers + McCaine Website Christy Childers Instagram Georgia Association of Women Lawyers WebsiteWhat’s in This Episode:
Who is Christy Childers?
Should trucking attorneys get their CDL?
What you need to get started in trucking.
What goes into becoming a board-certified trucking attorney?
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

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Sep 26, 2023 • 31min
210. Kyle Roof, Page Optimizer Pro — Toolkit: Data-Driven SEO Strategies: The Formula for First Page Rankings
SEO expert Kyle Roof, creator of Page Optimizer Pro, talks about the importance of data-driven SEO strategies. Topics include simplicity in Google rankings, nailing on-page content, the impact of long-form content on rankings, and how links can accelerate rankings. Kyle shares his expertise on on-page SEO, content creation, internal linking, and mathematical SEO strategies.

Sep 21, 2023 • 27min
209. Jack Zinda, Zinda Law Group — Purpose and Profit: Roadmap for Strategic Growth
Jack Zinda, founder of Zinda Law Group, shares his strategic approach to building a successful law firm while staying true to his values. He discusses transforming hiring, operations, case selection, and client service. Jack also explores evaluating new locations, leveraging client satisfaction tracking, and developing niche expertise. The podcast covers topics such as success and purpose in personal injury law, building trust and client satisfaction, tapping into the Spanish-speaking market, and building relationships in trucking law.

Sep 19, 2023 • 42min
208. Gyi Tsakalakis, AttorneySync — Toolkit: Generate More Leads, Marketing Flywheel Best Practices
Gyi Tsakalakis, President of AttorneySync, shares insights on omnichannel marketing and best practices. Topics include leveraging social media for brand building, the relevance of traditional media, and the importance of budget shaping marketing strategies. They also discuss creating engaging content, nurturing client relationships, and the power of authenticity in advertising. Additionally, the podcast covers the role of traditional media in digital marketing for law firms, the significance of budget and capitalization, and different marketing strategies for law firms.

Sep 14, 2023 • 26min
207. Allyson Ostrowski, Abir Cohen Treyzon Salo — Practice Area Pivot: Successfully Navigate Transition
Former LA County District Attorney, Allyson Ostrowski, shares her bold transition into civil law as a trial attorney focusing on catastrophic personal injury cases. She discusses how she leveraged her connections and discovered a genuine marketing strategy. Topics include authentic marketing, mid-career transitions, and the importance of your circle of influence.

Sep 12, 2023 • 58min
206. Nathan Gotch, Gotch SEO — Relevance Wins: Law Firm SEO for 2023
Get ready to level up your law firm's online presence! In this can't-miss episode, we welcome back SEO guru Nathan Gotch (@nathan.gotch), Founder of Gotch SEO Academy , for an in-depth masterclass on search engine optimization.If you want to get found and stand out in the crowded legal market, SEO is essential. Done right, it's the most cost-effective way to drive traffic, capture leads, and build authority. Whether you're new to SEO or want a refresher, this episode has tactics that work in today's evolving landscape. Invest the time. Gain an invaluable edge over the competition.Tools in this Episode:
How to make your site more relevant (and more likely to rank) on Google.
The mechanics of optimized content that results in conversions.
Actionable tactics to maximize your law firm's visibility and credibility online.
LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteChris Dreyer WebsiteNathan Gotch InstagramNathan Gotch LinkedInGotch SEO LinkedInGotch SEO Academy WebsiteNathan Gotch YouTube Nathan Gotch WebsiteWhat’s in This Episode:
Who is Nathan Gotch?
What relevancy has to do with dominating the competition.
Why user intent should be every firm’s North Star.
Best practices for SEO in 2023.
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Sep 7, 2023 • 23min
205. Suzanna Abrahamian, Suzanna Abrahamian Law Firm — Starting a Successful Firm: Reputation and Relationships
Suzanna Abrahamian, a personal injury attorney with a successful law firm, shares insights on starting a practice. She discusses leveraging her sphere of influence for initial clients, finding opportunities in underserved practice areas, and prioritizing open communication with clients. Abrahamian's journey emphasizes deliberate practice and skill development over time to build the firm of your dreams.

Sep 5, 2023 • 29min
204. Ken Hardison, PILMMA — Toolkit: Shortcut to Law Firm Growth, AI and Operations
Ken Hardison (@klhardison) saw opportunity where others saw risk. In the 1990s, advertising was taboo for law firms, but Ken recognized TV ads' untapped potential. He invested big, and his gamble paid off. His caseload exploded. Within four years he had over 60 employees and $5 million in revenue. He built not one - but two - multi-million dollar law firms. And wants to help other lawyers do the same. So Ken started the Personal Injury Lawyers Marketing & Management Association (@PILMMA) - providing training, coaching, and resources to shortcut the path to law firm growth. Ken is back for a second time on PIM to prove: when you see an opportunity, take it!Tools in this Episode:
How AI can level the playing field for small firms.
What to look for in "A" players.
How to set proper KPIs to spur rapid firm growth.
LinksWant to hear more from elite personal injury lawyers and industry-leading marketers?Follow us on social media for more.Rankings.io InstagramChris Dreyer InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind InstagramPersonal Injury Mastermind ThreadsRankings.io TwitterRankings.io WebsiteChris Dreyer WebsiteKen Hardison LinkedIn PILMMA Website PILMMA Instagram Ken Hardison Instagram What’s in This Episode:
Who is Ken Hardison?
Why early technology adaptors win the long race to success.
How PILMMA can uplevel any law firm.
Creative ways to identify top performers.
Past GuestsPast guests on Personal Injury Mastermind: Brent Sibley, Sam Glover, Larry Nussbaum, Michael Mogill, Brian Chase, Jay Kelley, Alvaro Arauz, Eric Chaffin, Brian Panish, John Gomez, Sol Weiss, Matthew Dolman, Gabriel Levin, Seth Godin, David Craig, Pete Strom, John Ruhlin, Andrew Finkelstein, Harry Morton, Shay Rowbottom, Maria Monroy, Dave Thomas, Marc Anidjar, Bob Simon, Seth Price, John Gomez, Megan Hargroder, Brandon Yosha, Mike Mandell, Brett Sachs, Paul Faust, Jennifer Gore-CuthbertAdditional Episodes You Might Enjoy
80. Mike Papantonio, Levin, Papantonio, & Rafferty — Doing Well by Doing Good
84. Glen Lerner, Lerner and Rowe – A Steady Hand in a Shifting Industry
101. Pratik Shah, EsquireTek — Discovering the Power of Automation
134. Darryl Isaacs, Isaacs & Isaacs — The Hammer: Insights from a Marketing Legend
104. Taly Goody, Goody Law Group — Finding PI Clients on TikTok
63. Joe Fried, Fried Goldberg LLC — How To Become An Expert And Revolutionize Your PI Niche
96. Brian Dean, Backlinko — Becoming a Linkable Source
83. Seth Godin — Differentiation: How to Make Your Law Firm a Purple Cow
73. Neil Patel, Neil Patel — Digital A New Approach to Content and Emerging Marketing Channels

Aug 31, 2023 • 20min
203. Dave Abels, Abels & Annes — Steady Growth: Adaptability and Client Services
Dave Abels, an attorney with 30 years of experience, shares his insights on adaptability and client services in running a law firm. Topics include marketing strategies, building strong client relationships, work-life balance, and remote work. Learn how to optimize your practice for flexibility while avoiding unnecessary stress.


