Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins

In this podcast episode, the hosts delve into the catastrophic failures of recent 'woke' video games and explore the puzzling absence of a supportive woke audience. They discuss the severe underperformance of high-budget titles like 'Concord' and 'Dustborn,' theorizing why these games failed despite being heavily marketed to woke ideologies. The conversation expands to analyze the broader implications of wokeism in the culture, video game industry, and corporate environments. They also consider alternate theories about why woke signaling doesn't translate into tangible support and how this might signal a larger cultural shift. [00:00:00] can we activate , a woke user base? If we just go pure woke, be creative, go story heavy. Like, is that something that can be done?Right. Answer appears to be no. And so this is genuinely a little perplexing to me. Because my interpretation of the current American electorate or body is about 15 to 20 percent of America Genuinely hold some form of woke ideology.Yet this faction is not buying anything. And the question is why now I there's, I'm going to go over the generic theories that people make, right? One is to say, well, the mistakes that these companies are making is that they are listening to people who are very loud online, which is predominantly people without anything else going on in their lives, i.e. [00:01:00] unemployed people. Who don't have the money to go out and buy games. And it's like, that's an interesting theory. But the problem with that theory is I can just look at the donations from , the famed tech company. And like, 98 percent of , Facebook is going to The Democrats or I can look at the very fact that Sony even thought to produce this day.Clearly, there's a large technocratic faction in America that works in large well paying bureaucracies that is Or at least signals that they are woke, right?Would you like to know more?Hello, Simone! It is wonderful to be here with you today! I am excited to be chatting with you, and the reason I am excited to be chatting with you today is Something happened in the video games industry, which is this last week, which is going to change American culture and world culture going forward.That's a big statement. [00:02:00] The consecutive and catastrophic failure of one, a AAA title and then two, a really big and, and sort of emblematic woke game. And so in this podcast, I think many people have missed the core mystery of what's happening here. What they focus on is the wokies are trying to be like, Oh, you know, horrible right wing.Boycott caused us to lose, blah blah blah blah, right? You know, that's their take on this. And then the right wing is looking at this and saying, Oh my god, this is amazing, look at them suffering, look at them seething, like, Things are gonna definitely have to change here. And I think what's being missed between these two interpretations, Is where is the woke audience and when I say this, I mean this in a real sense.I'm not saying the woke audience is smaller than woke people expect it [00:03:00] to be, right? I'm saying it appears the woke audience. Is virtually non existent and where this is really made clear to me that was on a slide scholars episode right now and the other guest was a a former college professor and he was talking about all the woke stuff that was happening on his campus And I was like wait, wait, wait, we cannot be here gloating About how no woke people exist to buy these products while at the same time talking about this woke oppressive environment on college campuses.Yeah. Right. Where is the woke customer? There's a discrepancy at play, right? So first I want to talk about why this is so big. Okay. So there have been video game crashes in the past, which permanently transformed the industry like. The E. T. game for people who are familiar with that. Actually, I want to quickly look up how many copies sold at that.Yeah, but very famously, I think, what, in the late 80s, that was supposed to be one of [00:04:00] the early biggest investment video games ever. I think it maybe had record amounts of investment in its development. And it also obviously was associated with extremely successful IP in the form of the E. T. movie. The video game came out, massive flop, nobody wanted to play it.And it goes down in video game history as a massive failure. This, apparently, was worse than that. Well, so, let's, let's, let's give an idea of how much worse than that it is, okay? Oh my gosh, okay. So the OOP D video game was developed by a single developer, okay, a single guy made the game, okay? Oh. It sold 2.6 million copies. It flopped so hard, it destroyed the video game industry and forced it to remake itself. This is when the video game industry was in its infancy. Today, the video game industry makes more money than the TV and movie industries combined, in terms of cultural impact. [00:05:00] Yeah, the consumers are there.So anything, even shitty things, should be making a decent amount of sales. Right. So, remember, 2. 3 million is what it had sold, right? 2. 3 million. Okay, so, Conker. This is a game that was a flagship title for Sony, alright? This was a game that had 100 to 200 million dollars in development, a large team working on it, and it was in development for over 8 years.How can something cost that much money? Consider it like a movie budget or something like that.So, Sony had so much faith in this game, they acquired the studio that was making it. They made controllers that were themed to go with the game. They made Sony devices. Like, what are those called again?Playstations. Playstations themed to go with the game. So this game was released about a [00:06:00] week ago at this point. To great fanfare, apparently. To great non fanfare, yes, but yes. It, right now, concurrently on Steam, has 68 players. Huh! The game peaked at 697 concurrent players on Steam. Um, Oh my god! I, so to compare though, like, what's, what's a normal, like a, non, maybe we'll say a boutique game.You know, made by an independent developer. How many concurrent players might they have on Steam?Okay, what's a game that you've heard of that's what I can use a game from a while ago that I've heard of Skyrim Grand Theft Auto Dead Red Redemption because it's tough. I remember like a billion years agoskyrim, concurrently, right now, has over 2, 000 people playing it, and it came out decades ago at this point. Red Dead Redemption 2 here 000 players right now. This came out like five years ago. 26, 000 players. Okay, how about the Harry Potter game [00:07:00] that everyone was like, let's cancel it, because that was an anti woke game. Yeah, okay. We'll see. Let's look for something that recently came out like these, because this is still going.Yeah, except, well, why I like the Harry Potter one was because I know it's still on shelves, because we saw it this morning. And two it was supposed to be a game that people who were woke would not play for political reasons. Okay Harry Potter Just like people who were woke would play Concord for political reasons, theoretically. Okay, Hogwarts Legacy. So this game is at That looks fun. 13. 5 thousand right now. Okay. And like, back to Concord, how many concurrent players at its launch? At its absolute peak, it was at 697. Oh! Oh, lord almighty! Okay, now see, that has the impact I was looking for. Remember the other game I told you ET sold 2. 3 million copies of Rivermaster fluff?Concord sold About 25, 000 copies across all [00:08:00] platforms. 25, 000. Wow. It's sold about the same number of copies as there are concurrent players of Hogwarts legacy today, even though Hogwarts legacy came out forever ago. Yes. Wow. That's a good comparison. Wow. But it wasn't the only instance of something like this happening recently to just, you know, be confusing here.So another one was a game called Dustborn. Right now, I'm actually listening to the entire story of the game Dustborn. I'm watching a full walkthrough that was like, I want to see how these people think. It is a game. Where essentially you play oh, sorry, I should note before we go further, how woke this other game Concord was.Because I think there's a few important things to note here, which hide some of the coverage that people will say. People will say, first I'll just explain the style of the game. It's basically an Overwatch clone. And people will say, well, we have enough Overwatch clones. And it's like, yeah, but the reason you have so many Overwatch clones is because people keep playing them [00:09:00] whenever they're released, right?That's why you have so many Overwatch clones. And people are like, well, Overwatch clones are there's free versions of Overwatch clones. And it's like, the core way that Overwatch clones work is they charge you to interact with additional characters often. You know, you get the new characters and stuff like that.That's how many of the free to play Overwatch clones work. And a new game launching could just be thought of as new characters that people could try and play with. The it already exists on the market is not a good explanation for bombing this hard. It would be a good explanation for a mediocre launch.It would not be a good explanation for almost nobody buying it. And it was so bombed by the way that it has been removed from the stores. Everyone who bought it is being refunded and it's being shut down. It's Saturday the 6th, which is tomorrow on the day of filming this, it will almost certainly be all the servers shut down by then.We literally tried to buy it at Walmart this morning, and we got them to unlock a [00:10:00] shelf to give us the game, and they refused to sell it to us. The machines wouldn't let them ring it up, even though they didn't know that it was supposed to be taken off the shelf. So that was sad for us. Sad day. Yeah.And so to understand how woke this game is. If you look at it, it apparently has, of the 16 playable characters, one of them is a white man. That's impressive. You know? And the white man is, from what I can tell, I think when they say a white man, it's a green alien character. Oh. Who uses a white person as a, skin? Yeah, I'll put it on the screen here. Wait, so it's a green, it's an alien wearing white face. No, no, no, it's, it's, it's just like a white actor of that's what they mean when they say it has a white character in it. Oh, it has a character based on a black trans woman being one of the leading characters.Okay. It has an overweight. Black woman character. It has [00:11:00] no attractive female characters in it, of course. It is, it is, it is so woke that when you open up the game to like, look at your character bios, above the bio, right next to the level of this character for you, and under the name. So the most important thing is their pronouns.That is the way that they introduce characters. Wow. God forbid you misgender a fictional character. Right? You gotta, you gotta make absolutely sure that people get this. So, this game completely flops, right? Then another game came out recently called Dustborn, which was woker than Concord, but it was actually trying to sell specifically to a woke audience.In a way that Concord wasn't. Concord appeared to be woke policies overlaid on a big budget game development. Okay. Dustborn is different. Dustborn is a character where like Triggering someone is like a [00:12:00] superpower and like the main character, a sassy black lady, can like manipulate people's emotions and, and literally gaslight them and stuff like that, for example, to gain power over them.And she's quite a bad person for what I've seen in terms of watching this so far. They have these fantasies where they are going around and manipulating people using their words or whatever.Alright, here we go.We ghost. Now here's what I'd say about just for Dustborn is an interesting game for a few reasons and if I agreed with the ideology I would buy it.I actually think that the ideology of dustborn should be selling copies of the game Because it's teaching people how to support the cause by being manipulative No, Simone, I'm just gonna tap this and tell me to make sure it's still coming from here Yeah, [00:13:00] no because it's an interesting world. So it takes place in a near future alternate reality Where the Conservatives have basically taken over from their perspective.The United States is divided into two factions, both of which this core band that looks like just classic DEI trash heap, right, is fighting against. And one of them is a militaristic post American government called like the, I think the, the Patriots or something, or the Nationalists. And then the other which controls the other half of America is called the Puritans and they're a techno utopian faction.the shadows of and I'm like, well, this is cool. It's this world where the Puritans, the techno Puritans are out chasing these people with their clean sleek drone things. That sounds like us. Okay. Yeah, no, but I am What I I love that the wokes are like secretly afraid of like this evil puritan techno faction.I'm like, yeah, I [00:14:00] like that Be afraid malcolm. They know they know they know. So, I I I like the world building. It's interesting to me. It's like, okay This is this is an interesting like you're clearly trying to set up a new world here if I didn't find your politics so repellent, I might be interested in seeing what you're trying to construct with this.Mm-Hmm. In addition to that, the game looks visually pleasant to me. Okay. So the characters aren't got like based characters? Oh no. The character, the main characters are all ugly, but I mean, other than the main characters it's done in like a borderlands style. But what's interesting about it is the way that they did gameplay, because watching the walkthrough I'm seeing this, they have combined elements of Guitar Hero and Beat Em Ups and sort of word based choose the right dialogue option, use your powers within dialogue to achieve certain endings that I could see be appealing to people.Yeah. But here's the problem. So this game came out [00:15:00] pretty recently. It's Current player count was around 28 for the day in terms of players for today. 28, 000? No, 28. And it's top ever was 83 people playing it. It sold fewer than a thousand copies. And likely had between 2. 25 and 3 million behind it.Oh dear. Okay. Big loss. Huge loss. Ouch. Yeah. I mean, not as big as the other one in terms of the financial impact, but this one is also interesting to me because this one is like, can we activate a yoke, a woke user base? If we just go pure woke, be creative, go story heavy. Like, is that something that can be done?Right. Answer appears to be no. And so this is genuinely a little perplexing to me. Why? Why, when the whole message for years has been go woke, go broke, why does this surprise you? Because my [00:16:00] interpretation of the current American electorate or body is about 15 to 20 percent of America Genuinely hold some form of woke ideology.Yet this faction is not buying anything. And the question is why now I there's, I'm going to go over the generic theories that people make, right? One is to say, well, the mistakes that these companies are making is that they are listening to people who are very loud online, which is predominantly people without anything else going on in their lives, i.e. unemployed people. Who don't have the money to go out and buy games. And it's like, that's an interesting theory. But the problem with that theory is I can just look at the donations from like, the famed tech company. And like, 98 percent of like, Facebook is going to The [00:17:00] Democrats or I can look at the very fact that Sony even thought to produce this day.Clearly, there's a large technocratic faction in America that works in large well paying bureaucracies that is Or at least signals that they are woke, right? The second thesis could be, well nobody's actually that into woke ideology. Like a lot of people will signal it but nobody's really that into it.Or it could be that the proportion of America that is into woke ideology has almost no overlap with the portion of Americans who play video games. I think no, because it's pretty clear that people play video games in droves. I do think that the video games that men and women play are a little bit different and that women are more progressive.So that just certainly has something to do with it, but I think your second theory resonates, and this could be a really good Natural experiment or piece of natural [00:18:00] evidence that suggests it is, it may be right, meaning that being woke or espousing progressive values works really, really well for signaling, but it doesn't work really, really well in real life.So people signal it to get tactically ahead in conversations and social hierarchies within bureaucracies, but in their actual life, they don't leverage it because they either intuitively or logically understand that it will produce bad results if they adopt it. Does that make sense? No, explain. In other words, I will at work use.pronouns and ask people for their pronouns and express, you know, my, my discomfort with the historical land use of my region or whatever, and use all that to signal that I belong to the correct group and that I'm doing the right things, but then when I go home, I'm not going to. Consume woke [00:19:00] media. I'm not going to refer to the correct pronouns.I'm not going to live that life behind closed doors because it doesn't produce Mental flourishing. It doesn't yield the best products. I'm going to disagree really strongly with you here. Okay. I think that there is a portion of Americans who go home and their houses are woke prisons for the less woke of the family.I have read about this. I have seen it on forums. I just do not think that you are right on this point. I think that there really are a lot of genuinely woke people. Families that like to, because the social technology, the reason why people lean into it is because they can use it to emotionally manipulate others.I guess including their family, right? So they use it to emotionally manipulate their families. The kids use it to emotionally manipulate their parents that this is In these families where you have these kids transitioning at like three and like eight Do you not think that wokeism is [00:20:00] dripping from every single wall of these houses?No, not necessarily because think about it this way. I could see parents being terrified about the state taking away their child one, if they don't support their child in their exploration or teachers ratting on them or high schoolers who are transitioning. I'm talking about the people transitioning between like three.I know. I think a lot of that may also have to do with. Existing or pending divorces and one parent using youth gender transition to get on a kid's side or examples of it happening outside of divorces. Yeah, I think that you're struggling to model that people can be this petty, but this was actually really interesting of me when I was watching the, the just born game, because I got to see in the game, the social interaction of the characters.And to see what they think normal social interaction looks like. And [00:21:00] it was incredibly tedious. Oh. Every single conversation was like, you hurt me by hiding this from me. You, oh talking about feelings and sharing grievances. You hurt me by doing this. And then the conversation would get shut down by one of them that had emotional manipulation.Powers manipulating the other. The general loop of the game that I'm seeing so far. They think this is normal for all social interaction. Oh wow, okay. So clearly this is happening in their home. And the second thing I want to shut down here is the idea that gamers, there's no woke gamers. Right. You get, I, I agree the majority of gamers are not woke.But if you look at things like the GDC before the gamers developers conference, where all the game developers went out in your ablative fields and yet screamed at the sky, like, like spaz is about all of the right wing influences that were ruining their industry. Right. You do not get more woke [00:22:00] than that.Yeah. The screaming at the sky. Yeah. I am going to pause it. An alternate theory to the theory we've been discussing. Yeah, I'm lost. So, don't take anything you've got. Okay. So I think it's a combination of two things. I think the people who signal woke tactics within an office environment are using similar woke tactics within their households and within their relationships.However, I think that they are actually the minority of people within these office environments. I think most woke people who are signaling to you and everyone else that they are woke they are of their own mental landscape and prisoners of the world around them. So it's like people in the cult who go along with it because they just don't want to get hurt anymore.Yes. They're just like, okay, stop hitting what they know they could lose their job. They won't be able to support their family anymore. They won't be able to, If, if they don't have a, a strong internal [00:23:00] moral compass, they have no reason to dissent. And due to the way cognitive dissonant works, they passively.begin to believe the woke things, but they don't actively believe the woke things. They, to your point, aren't actually doing the woke signaling at home in the way other people are. They are not the woke police outside of Their spouse says something and they're like, Hey, you shouldn't say that because it could have these effects on our family.You shouldn't say that because of wokeism. Right. You know, but like, don't you know, we live under a totalitarian state that's constantly policing and everything that's being heard and said. So I think that this is one faction. Right. And then I think the other faction. Which is not insignificant, right?Like if they bought things, they could be a real powerhouse in terms of buyers. And this is what's getting me when they're like, our game bombed because it was [00:24:00] boycotted by you know, right wingers, right? It's like, but if the woke audience existed, a right wing boycott shouldn't have affected your sales numbers this much, right?Apparently you weren't just boycotted by right wingers, you were boycotted by a woke audience as well. How did that happen? I think that these woke people live in a state of mental internal turmoil that is so high that they struggle to do basic day to day functions and most of their day is really spent in these Apology spirals in these online fights and in these so you're saying, oh my gosh, you're saying that woke people are so dysfunctional that they cannot even make time in their day to play a video game.Yes, it is. It is not that they don't have money because clearly some of them do. They're involved in the [00:25:00] manufacturing of these games. They're involved in what's coming out of Hollywood these days. Wow. They live in a state of mental impoverishment and spiritual impoverishment that is so great that they probably cry multiple times a day.They probably see a therapist like once a week. They probably are just barely holding things together. I guess if you go through what actually is required of being. A true believer within the progressive movement. Now it does involve so much self victimization that it could be self victimization to the point of complete dysfunction to your point.But think about like, try to model the relationship of people. Like when I try to, you know, you may disagree with this, but like Jen from Fundie Fridays and her husband, because I'm able to see both of them and how they interact. These individuals come across. In terms of the [00:26:00] lack of vitalism that's left in them, after all the signaling and after all the fighting, that's clearly part of their day.I was actually recently watching a Amanda, a famous Antinatalists right, who's also very woke. And when I looked at what was left of her as a, as, as sort of a residue of humanity.She reminded me of almost one of those shadows that's left of somebody after a nuclear explosion. Like a ghoulish reminder of what was once human but is now Nothing but residue.Their, their core vitality and inability to feel any happiness or engagement with the world has been genuinely blasted from them. And now every moment is dedicated to self flagellation. And a, and a form of self flagellation. So people who don't know this, [00:27:00] If you look at something like the Opus Dei, and we're going to do an episode on them, this is a Catholic sect that's famous for various forms of self flagellation and like mortification they're actually pretty happy people, because they have a moral mandate to be happy, because you control your emotions and the self flagellation and all the other mortification techniques are meant to give you more control over your emotional state, which is something I agree with.The Wokies are the exact opposite. All of the self flagellation is to feel and to bring up as much despair as possible. They almost have these like despair feedback loops around things like the environment or any of the other things they want to feel sad about, where the amount that you are wailing and despairing increases your status, which creates this environment in miasma of constant despair.That is wild. Hypothesis. I have a secondary hypothesis, which I think is further deflating the numbers. Oh, yeah, I mean, of [00:28:00] course, this could be several factors, and there is no doubt a portion of the population that is so mentally dysfunctional that they can't even get themselves to play a game, but there must be other things at play here, so let's go for it.What is it? The, the final factor is In the 90s, if a movie I just liked released a video game, I wouldn't play it. You know, I knew that video game movies were bad. This was like a thing in the 90s. Everybody knew And, and movies made about video games were bad. If a, somebody makes a movie of a video game, you just don't go watch it, it was bad.Now, this was not true in the early days. There were a few good early video game movies, like the Street Fighters original movie and the Mortal Kombat movies, those were fantastic. Oh, and the first Resident Evil movie was great. And then sort of after that era, there was this era of bad video game movies.Everyone knew, don't go watch video game movies. Even if you like the video games. Because they're almost always bad. Okay. And what we might be seeing here is [00:29:00] people have come to associate even woke people, any game that signals any degree of wokeness with, this is going to be terrible. And one of the questions is, I mean, we all know this.We know that woke movies are just like worse than non woke movies. When you get to the woke Marvel stuff, when you get to the, you know, the video games, when you get to the Woke Indiana Jones. When you get to that, you're like, okay, this is going to be bad because I saw some woke stuff with a question.Well, how do you know that? Why? Why is there such a correlation here? It's not that they get less money or attention. And the answer is. Is the more woke stuff that is coming through in terms of the advertising and the plot and the character design, the more is being implemented in terms of hiring. And what is woke hiring?Woke hiring is hiring based on social signaling and not ability. And so basically we know when I see something that's signaling wokeness, That it [00:30:00] wasn't made by competent people who were, it was made by idiots, basically. That's always my take. It was made by idiotic bureaucrats who knew how to signal.Who were not hired for merit. Yeah. Who were hired for signaling and not merit. That's scary. And what this all comes down to at the end of the day, like the reason this could change culture so much is when you talk about how important the video game industry is to culture, if the video game industry does walk back from all of this and begins to see releasing a game that's signaling wokeness like as bad as releasing a game that's signaling blatant racism, because, I mean, it is signaling blatant racism, but I mean, like, what they would consider racism.They understand you have to be afraid to look woke. Is where we're entering now. If that happens, that's going to have a major cultural shift. And I think the people who came out ahead of all this are going to end up looking really good. One of the things I mentioned to you recently, and [00:31:00] I think Zuck is going to go anti woke soon.Yeah, he's certainly entering his new era, the fro and chain era. But he's not getting cred from the anti woke audience, because I mentioned this on a, you know, another anti woke influencer. And they were like, yeah, but like, it's not hard to do that now. Like everyone knows to go anti woke now, right? You know?And I hope they made the costly signals early, like Elon, really people remember that he lost a lot of money. Trying to fix things. Or the people who are like, oh you want such a No, honestly, I think anyone who has this like mindset that, oh, Elon, he didn't really make his money or he didn't really do this.You've got to understand there is an entire apparatus out there that is dedicated to try to brainwash you into believing. Well, and Elon Musk is broadly a very progressive person who also cares deeply about climate change. So there is that too. And [00:32:00] he helped his child transition. A lot of people don't know that he helped his child transition.He sent the child to all the gender reforming stuff. He got the child the gender transition hormones. He got the child everything He was far in the progressive camp before he made his transition and he made the transition when he had Nothing to benefit from it and that requires an incredible amount of mortal fortitude and so when you look at all of these people who are like, Oh, he just wants to be popular or he just wants whatever.I would consider it in the context of the sacrifices that you cannot ignore that he has made. To make this transition early. So I hope that, and I hope that people like ourselves who have been positioning ourselves against a lot of these woke overreaches are able to, as the winds change, benefit from this.However, and as I've said before, the one thing I can't account for is this isn't a normal cultural change. [00:33:00] Wokeism is a memetic virus, which is very good at targeting and entrenching itself. Within bureaucracies. Yes. And no matter how hard they try, you know, you might try to remove it from a bureaucracy.It's going to be very difficult. Very, very difficult. Yeah, unless you just recreate the organization. I mean, if anyone tried, like tried to cut out the cancer, you'd end up cutting out like 89 percent of the company or more, right? Like, that is what happens when you're cutting out the cancer. You know, it is really deep and profuse.And if you want the host to survive, you have to be willing to make costly decisions, which is very difficult for a large company like a Microsoft or a Sony to do. You know, Microsoft not long ago doubled down on some of its woke stuff, right? You know, in terms of its employee training and [00:34:00] everything like that.So, like, how, how do you, how do you fight against it when these companies no longer care about profit maximization anymore? And my answer to this is I think we need to start having this societal frameshift that wokeism is bigotry. And to call it bigotry and to say I don't like this problem because it is woke and bigoted.Every time, like I think we should, every time we use the word woke, say woke and bigoted. So that people remember. And, and I love the word bigotry and bigoted because it's one of those words they forgot to redefine. They redefined racism. They forgot to redefine bigotry. So yeah, you hit it with that and they're like, yeah, I guess it is definitionally a bigoted thing to do.Now there was a final point. Oh yeah. And if anyone here is like, well, my company is infected by wokeism. What do I do? Like if you're a CEO or something like that, if you need somebody to come in and do consulting on this, I thought about doing a little bit about this on this side just let me know Stanford MBA.Background in private equity [00:35:00] company management and venture capital. So I'm pretty qualified for this stuff. Oh, and I wrote a bestselling book on governance. You're just really good at thinking through complex problems. So I love it. Yeah. Happy to come in and help. And I'd also note to these individuals that this could be a legal risk to your company after the Supreme Court decision the Harvard decision.It has now become a active legal risk to any company that is employing systemically woke policy IE, any policy that is bigoted against individuals based on their race or sexuality, which wokeism intrinsically is. Yeah. Well, how do you score that though? With all of the existing government policies that obligate organizations to favor certain classes, like minority owned businesses, women owned businesses, et cetera.A lot of those have been rolled back. I'm, I'm knee deep in RFP still for our business that we run. And, okay. Well, so this stuff is going to be [00:36:00] rolled back based on lawyers going forward. And you wouldn't believe it. I was actually in an RFP call this morning. And like some of the other businesses. One was literally called diversity travel.I'm not kidding you. Diversity travel. Diversity travel. Yeah. Wonderful. I, I, I, I, I like, do they win RfPs? I'd be interested to see. Presumably. Yeah. I mean, anyone that was in that call and I made a list of everyone, like I always do to see what our competition is like. Presumably has a significant portion of their business that is dependent on RFP based travel, meaning they work with universities and state agencies and organizations like that.So what I'm just saying is that it is it is deeply entrenched within our government, which makes up a significant portion of the GDP of the United States, because we are largely a socialist country. Okay. That you have to discriminate based on race and [00:37:00] gender and other forms of, of status. And that status is not based on reality, by the way, it's based on specific certifications that you gain and have to apply for and have to pay to apply for.Like I couldn't just say, this is a woman owned business. You would have to be certified and have your application and fill out the paperwork. So this sorts for not true diversity, but rather, you know, like if I were to, if I were to try to correct for systemic bias in society, proactively as like, Empress of the United States.Like if I had to, cause normally I'd be like, let these things kind of correct themselves or let the market recover. I wouldn't, I wouldn't favor things like the government does now where it says, okay, well you have to discount the cost presented by any business that meets this status so that you give them an extra boost.I would rather say, [00:38:00] okay, we'll invest in extra resources, like extra mentorship, extra. Startup funding, low interest loans for businesses that meet these qualifications, but don't make it easier for them to sell to clients. Like if they should go out of business, they should go out of business. Don't artificially change their pricing in the eyes of everyone who works for the government and with government funds, because then it's just going to be very inefficient.What we, I mean, the only way to fix this is. for Trump to win, for us to campaign, to get in his administration, and then set up a department just looking for, it'd be very easy to get, even at the state level, these laws erased. You just do like the government did to ensure like a standardized drinking.Easier said than done. No, it's, it's not hard. What they did to standardize. the marijuana laws. And w tie federal funds to the you have to get rid of po we just get them all once they're erased, it w bring them back because I So unpalatable these days [00:39:00] the idea that you would have these sorts of policies, especially when you put on how much they cost the taxpayer.And when I say cost the taxpayer, the way I would word this is how much they are preventing from going to the homeless. So you don't focus on how much extra in taxes you pay. You focus on how many millions of dollars aren't going to homeless people because these policies exist with the assumption that instead of that policy staying with the taxpayer, it would all go to the homeless.Yeah, I mean, I, I'm more focused on how much of your tax dollars are wasted on paperwork and bureaucracy when these things are utilized. Right, you care about waste because you're a human being and not a voter. Well, no, it sucks if I give a dollar to the government if like 75 cents of that goes toward nonsense paperwork that makes my life more miserable as a taxpayer.Yeah, that would matter to me. Yes, but you're not a normal voter. I don't know, people can say in the comments. Who, what, what, what? I don't think normal voters are in the comments. . We have, I They are, I have. We have very normal people in the comments. Normies, [00:40:00] normal people watch our show. Not weird people. This is very true.Our Discord server literally has more intellectual conversations than we have on this podcast. We have a. Really intelligent, weirdly skewed audience of, of very smart and engaged. You know, they're not smart. They're normal people. Simone.We're just normal men. What do you mean, normal men? We're just innocent men. We're playing from htq a little bit later on. So if you'd like toI have worked very hard to build a normal audience with normal, not weird people.Okay. They are, they are normal men. Simone, our audience is normal men. Just like they say on side scrollers. They, they, they're, they're, they're. They are just trying to live a normal life, okay? Like Trump and J. D. Vance. J. D. Vance swears he's not weird.[00:41:00]He is the weirdest. I, I, I, I like him. I wish they would just like embrace the weirdness of their thing. I love our Revenge of the Nerds episode on this, because that's the way I feel about like the left right now.Democrats and the Harris campaign now deploying a new adjective to blast the Republican ticket. Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well, it's just plain weird. Get those nerds! I mean, on the other side, they're just weird. Nerds! It's not just a, a, a, a weird style that he brings. Nerds! Nerds!Nerds! Nerds! Where are they? I think they're talking about us. No way. Oh no! Ah! Ah! Ah!When they're like, you guys aren't following the new social norms we created. Anyway.Love you to decimum. Have a spectacular day. Oh, and something I'd also note about diversity in these games, just before we hop off, because you and I were talking about [00:42:00] this recently, is what quote unquote diversity is depends on how the cult is evolving and doesn't represent real diversity. So if you look at modern diversity And you can look at this and shows basically hispanic people don't exist like hispanic people should be there should be if you're trying to be like accurate to the US population to hispanic people for every black person.But no, huge over representation of black people. Almost in hispanic people but then the other thing that's really interesting is the disabled group, right? So I was watching the magic school bus recently and there's a little kid in a wheelchair And I was like, oh, yeah a little kid in a wheelchair like I remember you you play basketball And do lots of cool wheelchair tricks And no engineering you all know the guy he was in everything for a while in the 90s Yeah, But kid in a wheelchair disappeared.He is not part of diversity crew anymore. There is no more kid in [00:43:00] a wheelchair. Yeah, that's yeah. What's the word for that? Ableist. Yes. It is very ableist, racist and ableist, I guess. Racist, enablist b******s. Yeah, what, what did happen to the wheelchairs? That is very odd. I, I, I kind of want to make Ken in a wheelchair like a new conservative thing.Like, put him in a wheelchair and American flags. Have him, like, paying his b ball. Because he could always do the cool b ball things. Wheelchair could big MAGA flags on it. Like what's up with those MAGA pickup trucks? You know what I'm talking about, right? We're random weekend days. You'll just see a MAGA truck driving by and there's not a progressive equivalent.There's just the MAGA pickup truck. I don't get it. Well, because progressives aren't really proud of their party. I mean, look, they didn't even vote for their own candidate. It was chosen for them by a secret cabal of party elites. Like progressives have no say. It's follow the cult or be taken out [00:44:00] back and shot basically.Like that's where the progressive party has gotten at this point. And I love, I like still see progressives who like say things like Donald Trump is more fascist than Kamala Harris. And I'm like, the level of brainwashed you have to be to believe that is Astounding. I mean, aesthetically, Trump loves, he's, you know, No, no, aesthetically, but like in terms of their actual actions and policy.I don't, here's, no, but look at this. Everyone's saying that the United States of. General election campaign is run on vibes right now. This is about aesthetics. And I don't know if people are even aware of anything beyond aesthetics these days, or at least a lot of mainstream. I remember I was talking to one progressive about like, I was like, well, at least with Tim Walz, you know, you must have to have like issues with the fact.that he kept everyone in their houses during COVID and then had a tip line where you could report your neighbors for leaving their house to have them arrested. Like [00:45:00] you don't see that as like a little fashy. And they're like, no, everybody had COVID policy like that. I'm like, did they? This is, this is getting 1984 level here.I don't know. I loved, I loved Peru though, where they were like, girls go out today, boys go out today. That was, That was just great. That's how they did in Parola. That's how they do it. Yeah. So, we're gonna end here. I love you to death, Simone. And I hope you have a spectacular day. Same. Which one do you want to do next?We could do one on that shelf. By the way. I saw what you left with my love with thyroxine prescription. What is this? Field of screams. Is this a call for help? Malcolm? This is a call for our family to do some fun Halloween stuff. At these prices? Scream pass, 40 to 55. Triple combo, 38. The extreme blackout. Is 60 multiple ATMs on site.What, what is this? But a terrifying [00:46:00] way to lose money vacation. I said, we need to go on less vacations and do more things at home. The only thing that's scary about this is just how hideous everything looks. Okay. The zombie fun run does look really fun. It's zombie fun. You saw that one? And there's just like random wholesome, like corn event where they're like, Oh, it'll be fine.Bring your kids. It's not that scary. But then on the cover, don't forget. But don't you want to terrify our children, Simone? Like, wouldn't it give you some joy? I, I have them sit right at bedtime and watch videos of bears killing other animals so that they don't go running outside every night. And, What do they do, but wander in two hours later in the pitch dark?Mommy, can I see a bear video again? There's no stopping these savages. I don't I love, I love Octavian telling Torci, A bear will bite you and rip off your skin. Wow! Yeah, I mean, at least they understand it, I guess. My [00:47:00] concern is if we actually take them to one of these things, they'll think that they actually have license to try to kill people.And I don't know how effective they'll be. Little concerned. Do you think the kids will? I mean, I wouldn't put anything past them. Would you? Actually, yeah, what, they, they might, you know? You gotta make it clear to you know, not kill the actors. If they thought they were being attacked. All right, I'll get started here, okay, Simone?Please, yeah. 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Free Login: https://parrhesia.io/student-signup Join our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/EGFRjwwS92 In this video, discover the groundbreaking Collins Institute, a revolutionary educational platform designed to compete with traditional schools. Learn how this tool functions as a directed learning engine akin to Wikipedia, but organized into an interactive skill tree. Find out how to navigate the interface, take assessments, and benefit from features like free tutoring and AI grading. Explore the theory behind the design decisions, including making education more engaging and self-paced while eliminating biases. Join us at the forefront of transforming education for students of all ages and backgrounds.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello everyone! I am so excited to be here with you with Simone today. This is going to be an explanational video.First on how to use the Collins Institute, our hopefully sort of competitor to existing educational models. And then the theory behind how we built it and why we made the design decisions we did, because what is coming to the public is evolved a lot as a model from what we originally thought we were going to make.So the first thing before we go into the school system itself, if you're like, okay, what is this? Is this a replacement for public? Cool. Is this a teaching aid for people who are already in the school system? Is this just for kids, or is it also for adult learners? The answer is, in terms of how you contextualize it, the role it's filling in your head, is sort of all of those.Think of it like Wikipedia. But transformed into more of a [00:01:00] directed learning engine. So a question with something like Wikipedia. Is Wikipedia you know, something that helps people who are already in school? Yes, of course. You know, is Wikipedia something that would help a homeschooler? Of course. Could a person realistically educate themselves to quite a high level using Wikipedia?Yeah, they could. It's just not really designed to be used that way. So you can think of this as us redesigning a Wikipedia like system, or collation of all human knowledge, so that it can be used in a directed way. And we have tried to include everything in this. You know, from how to lay drywall, to aquaculture pharmacology, To tax policy as it relates to investments, to what you would study in a subject from when you can read in that subject to midway through a PhD in that subject.Simone Collins: I'm just incredibly excited about this tool. And both Malcolm and I wish that we had access to this when we were kids.Malcolm Collins: Oh yeah, yeah. No, as somebody with an MBA from Stanford and an undergraduate degree from [00:02:00] St. Andrews, which are two really good schools I would have So, I was actually being so much better educated had I been using this platform than the educational system I actually went through.Simone Collins: Yeah, to a great extent, it combines a textbook with Wikipedia in the sense that when I used to study, I would go through a textbook's quizzes before I would go through a chapter because I found that I was a little bit more attentive in my learning when I was wondering if I got questions right or if I got a question wrong.And that is something you can do with this tool,Our goal was the Collins Institute was to divide all human knowledge into a skill tree. Like you might see in a video game. You progress through this skill tree unlocking nodes, which gives you the ability to tackle more advanced nodes. Here, you can see the classic vertical style skill tree.Like you might see any video game. However, if you prefer other form factors that we also have a radial view where the skills all radiate out from a central node. And a collapsible view. Where you can collapse all of a.Single [00:03:00] skill tree path using this double arrows or specific pathways using this single arrow here. Today we will be focused on the vertical view because, well, frankly, I find it to be the easiest to use.To navigate this tree, you can click and hold to drag up or down. You can scroll in and out using your middle mouse button. And if you are on a tablet, you can use this. At the bottom right of the screen to control how far zoomed in and out you are. And on the far left bottom of the screen, you can use this thumb joystick. When you see a skill you want to attempt to master, you can click the skill and then click see more to go into the scale. Within the skill that you will see a description of what you need to know to pass the skill and below it, you will see a list of the best sources online for studying this subject. If you click add a source right here, you can add your own.You can upvote and downvote sources here. If you notice that any of these sources have issues with them and should be reviewed, [00:04:00] you can click right here and flags the source for our admin team. You can also offer yourself as a tutor in this particular subject, David. And it's something you like talking to others about?When you are ready to take the assessment, you can click the, take the assessment button up here at the upper, right.It will give you eight questions. That is not meant as an absolute test of your skill, but more to keep you honest with yourself about whether or not you actually took the time to study this particular skill. Right here. There is a question bank button. This can be used if you wanted to edit the question bank for this skill., and up here, there is an edit button which can be used if you want to edit the mastery requirements for the skill. Note, if you are a student. Your edits will be put in a queue and then an admin will review them and approve them if they are good. However, if you would like to become an admin, you can always just reach out to us and join our team that is helping to improve this tree.If you want to, you have the ability to review skills that you haven't unlocked yet. [00:05:00]However, when you open one of these skills, instead of seeing an option to take the test, you will see an option to go to the nearest unlockable skill. Just click this and it will take you to the nearest unlockable skill within this test street.Here you can take the assessment and eventually unlocks the skill that you were looking at.You will notice a few different types of skill pathways. Some are simple, like the ones we just looked at, but occasionally you will get to skills that are called cluster nodes. Cluster nodes are when a skill involves a number of sub skills to pass. Here's some good examples here of the Roman Republic. So when you get to a cluster node, you will notice this.dot dot line that leads to the central cluster node.And then the outer cluster nodes to pass a cluster node. You actually need to pass it the outer cluster nodes before you can pass the inner cluster node, which will include questions from all of the outer cluster node tests.This becomes particularly relevant when a cluster node must be passed to [00:06:00] pass a nodes above it. As we see right here with physics and chemistry, one. Here you would need to pass the properties of water. It states of matter. matter. basic concepts, basic reactions, volume, mass weight, simple machines, and measuring systems.Before you could take a test that that covers all of those subjects and moves you to the physics and chemistry. Two section. Right here. Once those are done, you can then unlock the center of the cluster node here, which then unlocks the next stage of this particular subject physics and chemistry. Three. Occasionally, you will come to a section in the tree where there is no node right here. You can see this at the branching point of physical science.When you reach one of these, the. It can be thought of as nodes that are automatically passed and use mostly to help sort things. For example, right here, you can see this sorts down into repair building and maintenance. , which goes into things like mechanical drawings, cutting things in electrical circuits. But it's still technically under the physics tree. However it doesn't need basic physics, like the [00:07:00] properties of water at the states of matter to move forward with it.So we separated it out. Alright, we're excited to have you guys back. I hope you enjoyed learning about how to use the product. There really isn't anything else to it right now, unless you're an admin or an editor, in which case the User interface is a little different, but you're gonna have to a few extra tools, but it's just as intuitive of what we just showed you.Malcolm Collins: I mean, I'm sure as we went through that, you're like, I could have figured all of this out just by looking at it, and that's what we were trying to do in terms of building this the big design changes that happened as we were building it were a few fold in the initial system. We had tried to build out something that was very good at measuring a student's actual progress in the moment.So by that, what I mean is like school when, when you get a test at a school, right, it's meant to judge your ability at that particular subject. However, what we realized is that these are very not fun tests to take, [00:08:00] like a 50 question test or something like that, or a long written assessment is just not very fun.fun if we're treating this as a game loop. Then the second problem is, is they're super cheatable on. Even if we use like an integrated camera on a student's computer, which first of all felt like a huge invasion of privacy, the student could just use AI to cheat on them. And they're moving into a academic environment where that's going to be increasingly common.And so I sort of took a step back and said, Hey, We're now in a world where it's very hard to judge somebody's objective understanding of a subject. What if instead we made the test more about keeping a student honest with themselves, about whether or not they actually know the content of a node, instead of Us checking if they know the content of a node.And then I realized that this completely changes the student's relation to the educational system. It's not adversarial. It's not checking if they're constantly lying, basically, or trying [00:09:00] to deceive it. It is there to help them. And the relationship, the cognitive relationship, that is going to lead them to fail.Form to education as a process is going to be quite different. Also, it allowed us to narrow these tests down into like short eight question tests. That flexibility now makes the game loop of the testing process much more fun for students as we have seen in our own usage of this and much more viable for adult learners as well, because now for an adult learner, you're not dedicating your time.You know, 20 to 45 minutes on a test for every individual node you want to fill out on the original system. We also had a decay feature where the nodes, which actually sort of you'd lose them. If you didn't keep working on nodes was in that tree or revisit them occasionally. And this, again, just was not very fun from like a game design perspective.There was a game recently I was looking at Vampire, something that had a [00:10:00] similar feature with base building, and it was just incredibly unfun because you felt like your accomplishments were not tangible? Like they just, they just fell away as time went on, and I didn't want that feeling for students.If students want to re do a nodal tree, they can might we add some voluntary decay feature eventually that Teachers or students can add themselves. Sure. ButSimone Collins: I think we also found that like making, making accomplishment ephemeral doesn't necessarily help, especially if someone's still advancing, because if you're advancing, you need to know foundational knowledge anyway.It's not like if you get really far along in Roman history, you're going to forget the very basics. Cause they're going to be so solidified in your understanding of more complex subjects. So, because most of the knowledge that you're developing through a Is going to be building on the more foundational elements.You don't have to worry about decay as long as there's advancement.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Simone. Another, another big thing that changed as we're going through [00:11:00] this is we initially planned for students to have like a bank of paid tutors that they could access through the site.And then the tutors are ranked based on how much they helped students within an individual test. We moved away from this model to the free tutoring model for two reasons, right? So right now, the way it works is you can just sign up as a tutor and people can reach out to you until you want to take your name off as a tutor, and they can also upvote and downvote you.So other people can see this is 1, because you actually do help learn more through tutoring other people to an extent, but I suspect the primary way that people are going to interact with teachers. Who are using this platform is twofold. One, they're going to be challenged by something and go to their parents or whoever is in any way, moderating their learning.So it might be you know, they might be in a teaching group or something like that. They might be in a homeschooling group or pod or something like that. Or they might go ask their friends who know a lot about a subject. And that to me felt much more organic. Or, They may ask an [00:12:00] AI. And when I look at the speed to which AIs are developing right now, I kept thinking to myself, like, is a student going to get better instruction from an AI like perplexity even today than they are from a low cost teacher that, you know, we were able to find and Book at, you know, on demand on a platform like this.And it was just like, obviously they will. And better yet, the ais are, are on demand, right? Like, the teacher, you'd have to wait a day maybe for a reply. Whereas the ai, you don't need to organize anything, you know, and it, and it's consistently getting better. So we decided to lean more heavily on.Students will figure out how to access instructors. And then we also thought, but that's also an important part of the learning process. Like it gives students a lot more agency. If there isn't a, this is obviously what you do. If you're struggling with something instead of a, you need to figure it out yourself because you know, that's what we're teaching in an educational system.Simone Collins: And we also found that a lot of the advisors that we worked [00:13:00] with. Really found most of the students they tutored and learned by teaching themselves. So the tutoring that we offer is almost more as a helping you learn a subject kind of option than it is a, here's how you're going to learn this subject.Obviously the tutoring is going to help both people involved in most cases, but we've discovered that teaching people something you've just learned is also a really important element of something to build into this, this platform.Malcolm Collins: And if you are somebody who teaches like a pod of students or a group of students, and you want to use this platform, we actually have a special type of account for you that allows you to monitor all of the students in your pod, and you will be able to check yes on certain tests for them, because while a lot of the tests are multiple choice, some are written answered, and some are picture based, like the food ones, Or the making friends ones.And so they need you to approve those particular answers. One of the first updates that we're going to be dropping after after launch, and we're working on this right now, is to [00:14:00] have an AI that can handle grading of the written answers and the picture based answers. So, if a student wants to approach this without any training, Any form of teacher they can right now when they get to those types of questions.If they don't have a teacher assigned to their account, they can just create one, basically reach out to a parent, use their email. Or if you're an adult learner, use your own email to create your own basically teacher account. But we want to move away from that and have the whole system be automated as soon as possible.But that doesn't mean that the system isn't going to work with outside instructors or that you as an outside instructor aren't going to be able to see what students are doing. Another thing that we moved to is it's much more self generating than we had originally planned. Whenever a student takes a test, they get an opportunity to suggest a new question for that test, which also sort of test their knowledge on something eventually will be giving students and secondary grade based on the questions they're suggesting as well as the edits they submit.So, unlike Wikipedia. What you do [00:15:00] is if you want to make an edit or you are uncomfortable with something there, there is a flagging feature and there is a Editing feature, and then it just needs to be approved by an admin. So we don't do the whole, you have to have a source for everything here. We try to keep a competent enough pool of admins within every subject domain, and feel free to reach out if that is something you're interested in participating in that you will be able to know if the students changes are good or not.Originally I was going to hire PhDs. To fill out all of these trees and all of these questions, but we moved to doing it with AI because I just feel that the user generated feedback that we're going to get is going to so quickly get to you know, a, a, Quality of content that we would have gotten from PhDs, but at a much lower cost and I think much higher readability content because the problem with traditional PhDs.And I know this because I was going down the academic path is you learn to write descriptions and everything like that, like an academic, like you're writing [00:16:00] research papers. And that can be very hard for a lay person to read. And I wanted to ensure that we didn't have that style of writing on this stuff, which is why we moved to a.public collection mindset. Another thing that we moved away from was the banding thing. We initially wanted to have a system in here that prevented students from becoming non well rounded. So basically you needed to get a certain number of points to stay in the school every quarter, and those points were determined by how far behind you were within a branch of the tree.As to why we threw this out basically, The only people who wanted this were the people who didn't want to use our system. So it was like existing public school educators who were like, well, how are you going to deal with students not being well rounded? When we actually went towards the type of people who were like, public school isn't working anymore.I want something else for my kid. And we mentioned this system. They're like, I hope you can turn that off because I don't want that for my kid. Like, I don't want somebody telling my kid what they should and shouldn't be learning. I just want a system that's going to completely allow them to go with their [00:17:00] passions because we're moving into a world where well rounded is the first thing that gets around automated.Well rounded is the first thing that gets outsourced. It's the lumpy skill sets that ensure employability in a post AI post outsourcing future. And I was like, you know, you got a really good point there. What was I thinking?Another thing that we have thrown out is at first, we were really afraid of, like, bias. I was like, well, you know, we want to have, like, true impeachability on bias. So we'll have students compete in prediction marketplaces, or do real world tests like post. A story, a scary story on reddit or something like that at the judgment of their English skills to see how many upvotes they got and then use that to modify which questions we were keeping in in which questions we were keeping out.And then I had this realization of 1 day. We might build a system like that. But there's so many negative externalities that could accidentally work their way into the system due to this, and it's just incredibly heavier to build a system like this than to just [00:18:00] have editors and a version history like you have with Wikipedia.And so I was like, why am I adding all of this complication when it's really. Mostly an aesthetic difference. And so I, I decided I was like, yeah, that's, that's a waste of time for everyone. So, and also you can't automate it as much. By that, what I mean is, you know, you would need some sort of person to go and check how they were doing on Reddit, to review the topics that they were suggesting, to review the authentic tests they were suggesting, to create the prediction markets.And I was just like, It's so much better if you don't have that because then it's so much lower cost to operate like if we can get to cost zero operation per student, you have created such an astronomically better system because one, it's operating on demand for every student. They don't need to wait for like a cohort of students to reach a particular stage in a tree to then access a prediction market to gate them moving forwards.Simone Collins: Well, and we're also, you know, as parents of four children. For kids, hopefully soon more, we [00:19:00] understand that the simpler, something is the better. And that while it can be nice to think of all these elaborate, lovely things you can do for your children in the end, what will get done is what is simplest. And sometimes you can go above and beyond and sometimes you can make authentic assessments for your kids.Sometimes you can encourage that, but that is the icing on the cake and something that you can do on your own really well and very easily. Whereas what we want to make sure we deliver is something that works without extra intervention, and it doesn't give you or students a lot of unnecessary busy work.So that is important.Malcolm Collins: And then somebody's like, well, what if, what if I, as a parent, think that something in the tree is really biased, right? Fortunately, I still have a solution for that. You can just censor those skills. You know, if you're going through and you're like, super progressive, and you don't like that at the end of the civil rights chain on the tree, there's one on the scams that were run using the Black Lives Matter movement, and you're like, I don't want my student to see that.You can just check that off. Or, you know, if you don't want to see, like, the evolution of human sexuality, you could just check that off, [00:20:00] right? , and then, and then you'll know, based on what you've checked off, what you need to personally teach the student that could have introduced some bias to the student.And so there's, there's just not the same risk of bias from the perspective of a parent because there's only so many subjects that can really introduce sort of systemic bias to a student. And those you can search for yourself and, and remove.Perfect.The, the final thing is if you're like, Oh, I, I hate all this AI text here and stuff like that. Then. Work on it yourself. And as AI gets better, we'll replace chunks of it. We could really use admins for this. So anyone who's like, I really am dedicated to doing lots of edits for this we'll look over your edit suggestion history.And if it's good, then we can make you an admin. Because I, I, I do want this to grow on its own. I want this to be fully operational for my kids by the time that they're fully reading and can engage with a platform like this. And if you're using it and you're like, Oh this node should be here, or you should have a lot more nodes on this [00:21:00] subject.Every year we're going to be doing a thing where we add a lot of nodes and prune some nodes. We'll call it like the pruning, the yearly pruning. That will be made. It's sort of an executive level decision based on feedback that we're getting. We may come up with a more organized way to do feedback or even vote on this stuff.We just don't know what that's going to look like right now. If you are an existing educational institution and you want to use this system, we are happy to work with you to white label it or anything like that. You let us know and if you're somebody who wants to donate to keep this free, because right now we're trying to launch it free.Like, I, I, at first we had this goal. We're like, we can turn this in. To an alternate source of income. And then we're not going to have to worry about, you know, being fired from our jobs for, you know, saying things that are against the current political or social establishment or too controversial. And we basically got to a point where I was like, yeah, but.I really want this to be free and I'll find [00:22:00] another way to support myself if things go wrong. But if you want to donate to ensure that this stays free to people you can always reach out to us about how to do that. Or if you want to put the foundation in your will, that's always a nice thing.I'm going to start suggesting that more because that's A good way to, without burdening you today, help keep this free for future generations. Anyway I absolutely appreciate all of you so much who have made this happen. I have been working on this for years. I wanted to ensure that the product that got to you was something that is. High quality and usable in its alpha form. But keep in mind, you know, this is an alpha, it is an active development.Parts of the UI are going to be changing. Parts of the system are going to be changing. Features are going to get added pretty much constantly over the course of the next few years. And so, you know, you're seeing now it took us about two years of development time to put together. Imagine where it's going to be in two more [00:23:00] years of development time.This isn't like a. work on it and finish it game. This is something I want to constantly, constantly, constantly be developing and making better because I think it's the only way we can really protect the next generation is to protect them from the types of brainwashing that goes on in the existing school system.Were there any other major features that we dropped someone?Simone Collins: I think the most important thing is if anyone has feedback. That they would like to provide to us, or they want to discuss this with other people. There is a part of our discord server associated with our podcast where you can talk about the Collins Institute specifically this platform Parisia.On the discord server, we'll include a link to the discord server in the description of this video. So if you want to chat with people about it as you're exploring it, that's a good place to go. If you want to provide feedback directly to us, you can email us at partners at Collins Institute dot org.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Oh, and I was going to add the one other thing that we removed. One other thing that we had dreamed [00:24:00] about putting together was when we had actually put it together, a democratize nepotism, which is to say a network of high profile individuals that you can pitch to and work with in various fields.If you got really far within any branch of the tree that network still exists. I just couldn't find it easy and automated way to work it into the system. The way the network works now is if you have a student who has worked their way to the end of any of the branches of the tree, just reach out to us.We'll be able to see their user history. We'll be able to talk with them, get a brief vetting of them. And then if they are extremely precocious, connect them with people in most fields that can be useful to them. So that feature is still there. It's now just part of the free version of the software.So until we get so big that I need to find some other system for doing that. As a bonus, because the launch has taken so long, we actually got a few new features working. One of them that I'm very excited about is now we have an AI that will grade written [00:25:00] answers, as well as picture based answers, which are common on things like the food test, like make eggs in four different ways, or Learn to make fried rice or you know, things like that, as well as the friendship based ones, which is like, you know, show a picture of you and a new friend that you made.So very excited that we got that working before it goes live, because that means that anyone can pass you the entire skill suit without an instructor to be attached to their account. If they want to, they can, of course, attach instructors. Get full access to Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm at basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Far Future: https://flowgpt.com/p/a88299a0-6f66-41bf-9391-0a862a6f0777 Post Demographic Collapse Haven State Network: https://flowgpt.com/p/803efa59-6c29-4b72-b0e7-96533a98bffd 1300s England: https://flowgpt.com/p/84af9969-75b6-4b70-a107-88c5152a7436 Join Malcolm and Simone as they delve into the captivating world of AI-driven role-play models and their profound impact on understanding human behavior and evolution. Explore the mechanics behind various AI environments, from open-world sandboxes to magical systems, and discover the persistent traits that emerge in these interactions. Reflecting on personal and societal implications, they discuss psychological aspects of violence and empathy within AI narratives, share humorous takes on anime and VR, and highlight the educational potential of immersive AI scenarios. This thought-provoking conversation will transform your perspective on AI and its role in our lives.[00:00:00] Hello, Simone. Today is going to be an interesting topic because it is one of those topics where. I do not think it's going to do well in the algorithm at all.Oh gosh. I do not think random people on the internet care about this topic at all. They should. And yet for me, it has transformed my view of the world and myself very dramatically. So you're just saying, screw it. I'm going to talk about what I want. I'm going to talk about what I want. Cause I got a podcast and we'll probably get a few thousand views for this anyway.So, you know, people have to listen. And I, and I also think it's it. For the people who do take the time to listen to this it may contain information that is also as, as useful for you in terms of how you see the world as it is for me, because there's two core areas that interacting with lots of AI chat, open world role play models have really given me insight into that I didn't have insight into historically.[00:01:00]Yeah. So eat your veggies and listen to Malcolm, ladies and gentlemen. We have three core areas. The first I'm going to focus on is how I work. So by that, what I mean is if you are dropping a person into over and over again, like the same persona, pretend I'm not a human and I'm actually an AI, right? And I, and.And what's the difference? And you're trying to figure out the personality of this AI persona, it's pre coded functions, it's pre coded predilections. A really interesting way to do that would be to drop this same model over and over again into different totally open world environments. And then look for patterns in how it's interacting with those environments.The goals it ends up building for itself.Would you like to know more?And this is what's really interesting because in these open world environments, I might be dropped in. In different bodies, for example, you know, in, in, in one. Oh, [00:02:00] like in one, you're a cyborg and in one, you're a wizard. And in one, you're a girlyou know, I, I, I like doing a lot of like character playing in the, in the various environments, but what's interesting is the parts of my personality that come through whatever character I'm playing. Yes. It purses out the you from your biological or logistical constraints and an example of this is in the AI model that I made.That takes place in the far future dystopia. I described in that one episode where the world has sort of collapsed and the economy has collapsed due to fertility rates. There's only a few like technophilic tribes left. In that world, I coded it so that I play as one of our, my, my like great, great granddaughters.Like in that, what, what band made a song about this? Oh, I love that song. Year 3000. Said, I've been to the year 3000, .Great [00:03:00] granddaughter So you just did a year 3000 post apocalyptic. You just have that, that sound playing in the background for future day for our family. The point being is that by dropping this consistent model myself in variable environments with very few constraints on them and to an extent correcting for biases that are due to my perception as.who I am today, I can very I can see persistent parts of my character. And what's really interesting is, through the persistent parts of my character I can see, I can then, if it's a part of my character that I do not think was socialized, I can then determine, pre coded parts of my evolutionary biology, which gives me an idea of environmental conditions I came up with.So that's, that's one category of things or evolutionary conditions that may have been subject to humanity. And it gives me things that I can look for in other people to see if this is me, am I an outlier? Is this actually generalizable across the human [00:04:00] population? The next category of things is, and unfortunately, this is one of the sad parts of interacting with AI models is I find them incredibly addicting at first, and then I get bored of them.Because what I have learned is that most magical worlds, for example, like most other worlds I can conjure they, they are very easy to hack. And then as soon as you figure out a beat for that magical system every time you realize that those components of a magical system are AI has created for me I just can very quickly hack it and it becomes boring.And so I'm no longer interested in those models. Get into how to hack most of the major magical world models. Cause that's, that's another thing. And the final thing that it has taught me is the extent of current AI and some factors in how current AI thinks, as well as how that models the general population.So I'm going to start with the things that has taught me about [00:05:00] myself. The first. Can we, before you do that, and you may want to move this to the front is I think that you need a better explanation and I can ask you just some dumb questions of, of what these are, because even I am not super clear on it.And I mean, I am roughly, but like most people won't know anything about this and they're going to have no idea what you're talking about. So, let's, let's start with, so I'm going to provide some context to people. Malcolm started reading about Like high school students sort of flunking out of their classes and and and completely scrubbing out on life Because they had become addicted to their AI boyfriends or certain AI quote unquote games and when it turns out these are is text based interactive choose your own adventure novels basically of the future run by a run by AI.So there are websites like character. ai. What's the one that you use? What are some of the ones that you use? The one that I think is best right now is flow [00:06:00] GPT. Flow GPT. So there are websites like that. where you go you create an account and you can either enter someone else's scenario. Basically, you can go through their own, choose your own adventure book, essentially or you can create your own.And Malcolm has actually created one for our discord community.That's based on like a post. Well, I had to put it in flow GBT. So they'd have to put it in flow. I'll, I'll, I'll add GBT for this. And then I'll put it in the links. You can choose someone's scenario. And what are some examples of scenarios that you can enter through these sites?We'll go into this in a second. Basically any scenario you can think of. So, for example, one scenario I put together is it's the 1300s in England. I am walking through the countryside. I come from an educated family, but my entire town died in the plague. So it's like 1336. And I come upon a girl In the woods, wearing mostly tattered clothing and there is a dead pack of wolves around her that she is casually munching on and she [00:07:00] looks at me very nonchalantly and is like, they, they attacked me, and, and I guess they were hungry, and I, and I write as if that explains anything about the situation and then that's where it starts, right?So I so what's happened here is one, I've created the starting prompt to the story, right? So you, and this is one that you created, but people have created templates of this already. In fact, some of the more popular templates are like a therapist. And you can just talk to a therapist or a lot of people have become addicted to certain like you.A. I. Boyfriends that you can sort of you're in a story to explain how this works. So if you actually want the audience to understand. So what happens is you have the starting prompt usually in these models like that. Like that's the start of the story that I, as the user and familiar with, and then in the background, I have coded a bunch of either story beats or things about the way characters interact or things about the world into what the A.I. Is considering into how it is responding to a user. Okay. So, in this, you know, medieval world, I am explaining parts of [00:08:00] this character's personality, who I may not know yet, you know, as a person, parts of the girl's backstory, parts of towns we may encounter, etc. Okay? So actually, as I'm listening to this, We, as parents, could teach our kids history, creating scenarios that our kids go through with this.Yeah. This is gonna be so great. Oh my gosh. What? Oh, you can create great history. You wanna, you wanna, We could teach our kids science too. Yeah. Theoretically. Like, they'll have to It's, it's great for all of that. Okay. So I've created is a chaos scenarios. I've created scenarios where you know, you're in some random like anime world was magic or scenarios that are like Victorian Britain, but was vampires and werewolves, you know, fantasy element for our educating our children.But for you, you can have the, Oh, no, no, no, no. That's what's going to hook them. I promise you, you know, they're not going to learn proper history. No, no, it's going to [00:09:00] be like, Okay. And you can ask it to be as realistic to that historical time period as possible while also uploading facts about that historical time period.We're totally doing this. This is amazing. Be realistic about hygiene. Be realistic about the way medicine is prepared. We can, we can plug this into the skill tree. People can create these scenarios and plug them in as resources to get uploaded. I bet these will be among the top uploaded resources over time for our skill tree.Maybe. I mean, as AI gets better, it's also going to get better, but it's remarkable how good these are right now. So that is the way that these work.I would note if somebody is going to try to use FlowGBT, do not use the generic model it gives you. You need to, Click on the part where it asks what model is replying to, then go down to individual and you can choose any model.Typically, the best model to respond is turbo GPT. The problem with that one is, well, it's paid first of all, so you're gonna have to pay for each response, but it's like a trivial amount. And it doesn't do anything that's not safe for work. So to be clear here, not safe for [00:10:00] work doesn't just mean like sexual stuff, which is actually not Something that I encountered that much in AI.It is usually like you're going to kill someone or something like that. And it's like, Oh, we can't have you kill someone. So then you can switch to one of the other models when you're doing that. And then back to that when it's for example, if I'm in 1300 England, of course I have to, you know, you've got robbers.You've got, come on. You can't have a teen dystopia without people dying. And I love doing AI. But anyway, I've got to get back to the point here. And actually this elevates one of the first things that I noticed about these AI worlds. And it reminds me of something in our discord. So in our discord a girl, cause weirdly our discord is like female heavy, even though our viewer base is male heavy.A girl was saying that she engaged with the AI and she, Couldn't find anything that it could provide her that she found particularly interesting. And Simone said the same thing, right? And I noticed that this is really interesting. So the [00:11:00] girls who get super addicted to AI seem to be the girls who don't have loving partners.But when a girl has a loving partner, that particular emotional pathway in her brain, the AI is very good at masturbating, especially if it's a dominant loving partner. AIs just offer them nothing and there's really nothing for them to engage with. The interesting thing I've noticed about guys, and I've seen this in some of the other guys who engage with it, it's definitely something I've noticed in myself about the way I engage with AI is, and I know this is going to sound horrible, so you're going to have to wait a second here, is how much I love killing people.And it made me realize that males, and you might hear this and be like, this is a horrible thing for someone to say. And then I'm like, well, what are men doing when they're playing video games? Most of the time, anyway, you, when you become a more famous person in the future, a bunch of people cutting that clip out of context.[00:12:00] Right? I just love killing people. But no, this is, this is what guys are doing. What is a video game if not going out there and just shooting scores and scores of people? It's just so fun to kill people. No, but girls don't engage with those types of games as much. And the point I am making is that in our society, I think a modern adult woman who has a loving partner who is slightly dominant actually has most of her evolutionary needs being met.I think girls when they are in their teenage years, don't have most of their evolutionary needs being met. But I think the predominant need they don't have being met is genuine hardship, which we've talked about in other episodes. You can look at our Spoonies episodes where we talk about this more.Speaking of which, there was a woman who. Made a video criticizing us and she's a literal spoonie like in, in the comments, she was discussing something terrible about us and I cannot remember what but she was like, I do not have the spoons to talk about it. And I'm [00:13:00] like, Oh no. Oh no. You're one of them.Anyway, go on.So for those who are listening on the podcast and don't have access to the video right after I said, I love killing people. I then, , played a short clip from the Sims of somebody deleting the ladder on a pool. And I find this actually a really interesting point because it's one of those things where you hear somebody say it and you're like, wow, what a crazy thing to say?And then I mentioned, you know, like when you delete the pool letter on the Sims and most people are like, Oh, yeah, I did do that. Didn't I, and then they go, well, I only did that to see what would happen and it's like, you knew what would happen. You see. You sick. . Like you knew exactly what would happen when you deleted the pool ladder. And you waited to watch it happen. Y what compelled you to do that?And here's an interesting thing because I've noticed. When I bring up the pool letter SIM thing. There isn't the same gender divide on this instinct. In fact, I noticed women seem to do the [00:14:00] pool letter deletion at about the same rate as men seem to do the pool ladder deletion. , and it might be that women may also have this instinct, but it requires more of the emotional,Like they want to see the individual suffer more. Because that's the core thing that's different between killing somebody in the Sims and killing somebody in like a shoot them up right in GTA is. When a guy does it in GTA.You know, you don't see the person's mood slowly declining and them struggling like you do when you delete the pool ladder in the Sims.So, , I wonder what, what leads to this drive in women? Why, why do you see equal rates? I don't know something to ponder something to maybe comment on in the comments. If you have any ideas. Okay. So, where was I? Yeah, so, killing people. So much fun. Okay, so, here's the thing that I realized is that in an evolutionary context, males almost certainly were, I mean, like, obviously were evolutionarily rewarded for having a warrior, like, part to their [00:15:00] psyche. And that this is very obviously not being masturbated, and it cannot be masturbated through any sort of real action in our society today.Yeah, not until we set up Westworld. Well, it would be very deleterious, right? You know, and that the AI chatbot environments create scenarios that are too satisfying this instinct in my head, much better than the ones created by video games. Yeah. Well, because I think. And I only say this as a third person observer, because I just can't bring myself to play these games.Killing someone in a video game seems just so, like, ticking off a box, or like hitting a target. You're not really killing someone. You know, you don't see their eyes make eye contact with you as their life drains from their body, right? Which is, I think, something you can get. From this very imagination augmented text.Absolutely. No, I think you're absolutely right. I think [00:16:00] the, the version of killing somebody in a video game is like, and then your characters had sex and it displays like a few sex images on the screen. And you're like, well, this is boring. Yeah. Instead of like a five page description. This is so bad.Malcolm, we're, we're talking about how it just killing people and video games doesn't feel really satisfying to me because It has elucidated something for me. So one thing that's also true of me is I really don't like seeing other people suffering. I, I find it to be Watch live action porn because you're like, this girl has a mother, you know, I don't even watch live action porn because it just stresses me too much to know that an individual suffering.I actually had to stop certain parts of my biology education because I couldn't deal with washing surgeries. Like they freaked me out too much. That's true. You won't even watch like all the pictures I had taken of my C section. Oh yeah, you're like, here, look, and I'm like, no, I cannot deal with the suffering.I should also say, you were never in the room for, beyond our first c section, after which you were like, really. [00:17:00] You asked me not to be in the room, by the way. It's not that I don't love you. You asked me not to be in the room. Yeah, because for the first one, you were like, Well, you didn't know you were going to get it and you needed support.Okay. Yeah. But I need to, I need to go further here. Right. Which is to say this made me realize about the way that the male kill instincts worked, which I didn't fully understand before which is to say. That it is pretty obviously significantly designed to offset all of these other desires you have around not doing this.So what I'm saying is, is that as a male, like in a real world environment, Right? I am going to have the uncomfort I have with seeing somebody else suffering. I am going to have the discomfort I have around seeing, you know, wounds. I am going to have the discomfort I have around all of these different things.And that means in a biological context, if I'm going to defend my tribe or go to war, I need some [00:18:00] Mechanism, which is so loud that pushes you through the killing all those other mechanisms That makes sense naltrexone has taught me about sex and arousal naltrexone opioid agonists that can lower any opioid motivated pathway Which makes them not as interesting anymore And if you take it while you're doing something whatever that opioid pathway was motivating is no longer motivated And early on I accidentally took it during sex and only after that I realized How many disgusting things you need to go through to have sex with somebody and how like actually biologically gross and how much sex actually sets off a lot of your disgust alarms.Yeah. You really need the the arousal to, you really need the arousal to offset that. Like, but also shouldn't sex be offsetting a ton of disgust alarms. I mean, you're dealing with like Yeah, there's tons of potential for infection here. Yeah, like it should be offsetting those alarms, right? You know, but you need the other thing to offset it.Now what's really interesting is that [00:19:00] in the chat AI environments because I have no empathy for these individuals, it makes, it basically like overcharges the, the other instinct because there is the thing, all of the things that it was meant to overcome are not activating. And so it goes into a much more severe state, which helps me understand how these pathways work better in the human mind.While also understanding that adult males, this is another thing that really. Change the way I see some things adult males in our current society have a part of their personality That is biologically and evolutionarily motivated that they cannot masturbate in real world environments Or at least should not masturbate in real world environments that and women do not have that Which was very interesting to me Another thing that was very interesting to me was how persistent certain elements of my personality were across very different [00:20:00] environments.And in different manifestations to your point where sometimes you would be a girl and sometimes you would be other things and whatever. Yeah. So when I am talking to other people, one of the first conversation topics I almost always default to is. Why do you think you exist? What's your purpose? What do you want from life?I know this well as someone who dated you and second date you immediately hit that. I thought of the first date. Was it the second date? Or the second date. First date you laid out your exposition, which is good because first date you used to basically filter out anyone who wasn't going to be a good match for you.Yeah, I guess first date was exposition and hooking up, not questioning you on why you exist, but I realized how persistently I like to do this, but this also has taught me because in so many different scenarios, I am engaging with the A. I. On these particular questions, and I realized that the answers that the AI typically [00:21:00] gives are like 98 99 percent in line.I would not be able to differentiate them from a random girl on a date. Now, in PC girls, for sure. Most of the answers are very in PC. But most human females are very in PC. Excuse me. Most humans. very much. Are very NPC. So that has been very fascinating to me as well, to see how good it is at sort of modeling the reasons and the variety of reasons for living humans have.But the other, another interesting thing is, is within any world that I enter, I always try to, Investigate sort of the rules of that world first. Like how does it work mechanistically speaking? And then I try to find out what would be a good moral system was in this world. And priorities for achieving that moral system in the world.And [00:22:00] then how do I conquer the world? That's generally the next step. And we'll get to that when we're talking about the various things. But I, I It has helped me also really understand how to hack specific world metaphysical systems really easily. And it's also helped me understand how durable the metaphysical system our world runs on is to not being hacked, and how vulnerable most magical world systems are to being hacked.But there is the, the second thing here. So, so, so here's an example of what I mean by like, When I look at these worlds, I decided to, in one world drop into a My Hero Academia chatbot system. No, so this was one that someone already created, right? Yeah, this is one that somebody already created.For people who don't know, this is a anime world. And in But what I think is cool is that this means that there are like, there are nerds out there who are investing time in creating Like meticulously creating these AI worlds around like IP. I mean, what I loved about this world is I enter this world, right?And I had planned on it. [00:23:00] Like when I clicked on this bot, I was like, I'm just going to play a superhero fantasy, right? Sure. Five minutes in. I am focused on the problem of Quirk Singularity Crisis because watching the show, I had never focused on how big of a problem this is in the world, but as soon as I was in the world and not watching it as an outsider, it was all I could think about.I was like, wait, but like, why are we fighting villains? Our society has like three generations to survive, maybe, and nobody is taking this seriously. For people who don't understand what the quirk singularity crisis is, or haven't seen the show, it's the problem that every generation powers become more and more amplified within the My Hero Academia world.And Eventually you're going to have things like toddlers that are nuclear bombs going off every five seconds. And every plan I could come up with to potentially solve this had me aligning myself with the villains and not the heroes because the heroes just didn't have the core powers that were necessary to solve this but [00:24:00] anyway, i'm i'm gonna keep going here I think another interesting thing is the very fact that whenever I open the These worlds that I am always focused on how do I conquer the world right and I wonder if this is like a?pre programmed personality or Do most males feel this way when they enter open world environments or are males born with sort of like cast like? Roles inside of their personality like Skyrim have user data based on this that That would maybe be helpful. What, what do players do in open world worlds? If I enter Skyrim, there is no way for me to conquer that world.I can go around randomly killing everyone, but I can't really start negotiating with all the various kings. So what do you do in Skyrim then, if you can't conquer the world? You're doing like a quest to kill a dragon, basically. A dragon. Not all dragons. Well, some dragons. I don't remember. The Skyrim's plot is actually pretty bad.But there are a few [00:25:00] kings that are looking to fight each other, and you can play a role in this battle, but you can't take over one of their kingdoms. What are Other notable open world games then that we could look at as a proxy? Literally no open world game allows you to do this. That I am aware of.What's the point of having an open world then, if you can't take it over? Save the world is usually what most people want to do. Oh, from an isolated threat. Yeah. It's Armageddon, dragon version, but, Bioware version, but, okay. So, I'll give you an example, so earlier I mentioned that most Ooh, or it's Destroy the World, so Grand Theft Auto is open world.You don't destroy the world in Grand Theft Auto, not in a single Grand Theft Auto game. Well, you, you, you, you destroy s**t, you're one of the Sea Peoples, okay? You know, well only really Trevor is one of the Sea Peoples. So you can look at like five, Grand Theft Auto 5 is an example of this. Sorry, I need to explain this to you. I asked for a fair day's pay after a fair day's work. Then he kinda got a little [00:26:00] angry. So, I admit, I kinda got a little angry. Did you kill him? What kind of animal do you take me for? No, I didn't kill him. Oh, . But I did kidnap his wife. Oh, no. Oh,this bothers me. You don't know this. So the, in the last Grand Theft Auto, you could play as one of three characters. Okay. One was a depressed you know, seeing psychologist, former mob guy, who, is looking to relive his glory days and he's with a wife who's cheating on him with the yoga instructor and a son and daughter who don't respect him.And then another is this young Who wants to play that? That's so depressing. No, it is depressing. He is a very depressing character that's meant to be a take on why wealth doesn't make you happy and the problems with modern society. And then there's a young black guy who's looking to, like, work his way up in society, but it's otherwise living a pretty hard life.And then there's Trevor. And Trevor is He's, yeah, every time you like switch to his character, the other [00:27:00] characters are like doing random stuff. Trevor will like be waking up from a coma with like a dead dog next to him or something. That sounds great. It sounds like you send me some like clips of some guy from a show who's like a sidekick in a superhero show who kind of sounds like that.Oh, no, no, no. So she's thinking of the sidekick from He's just clearly super autistic. I'll put it in the show here.Who's the guy that's peeking out behind the trash can? It's, it's vigilante. He's trying to be helpful. Hey! Get out of here! What? I'm just looking for behind a trash can. It's a normal thing to do. The hell it is! Are you a psychiatrist? What? Then don't tell me what's normal. Maybe my secret identity is a psychiatrist and I know what's normal.We're born killers. What separates us from other killers is we only kill bad people. Usually. Unless there's a mistake. Now, do I sound like a f*****g maniac? He's he's yeah, I, I know the one who you're talking about. But no, Trevor is not like that at all. Trevor is like a crazy meth addict who has some level of [00:28:00] immunity to the negative effects of meth.Okay. It will do crazy insane stuff all the time for the sake of it because he is completely out of his mind. But that, but he is not as well. He's just like a random, like, walk down the street, shoot a prostitute type person. Not a, I'm going to take over society type person. Well, but by Sea Peoples, I mean distributed autonomous units that lead to societal Instability, but sure.Okay, I understand what you mean. I just have no interest in playing one of those characters in any sort of environment. Yeah, well, I'm just trying to think about what, what, what, what I'm asking mentally to myself is what do gameplay scenarios say about people's open world fantasies? Like, what do people do?If they are unmoored from their identities and in open worlds. Problem that you're, you're asking the wrong question. So when you ask about traditional games, like Grand Theft Auto, Grand Theft Auto was created, was an artistic [00:29:00] vision in mind. That's why they created all of this artistic. Themes around the problems of modern society and the problems of therapy culture.Yeah, but I mean, don't. And the point being is the actions of those characters and the desires of those characters are not driven by the user in the way they are in AI scenarios. So it's like a storytelling thing. So you're saying that people who play Grand Theft Auto don't want to just destroy s**t.They want to explore an artistic vision. And those who play. Assassin's Creed don't want to jump off buildings majestically. They want to explore an artistic scenario. No, I'm saying the exact opposite. I'm saying that by studying games, you are not learning that much about what humans biologically desire to do in an open world.Well, I guess, yeah. Similarly, by looking at what the mainstream media covers, you're not learning about what people want to know. Right, but if you look at the way that people are using chat systems, Mm, [00:30:00] then you know. Then you know. Because these are just for So they want therapists and boyfriends. What?That's, that's what's popular on these, on like character. ai. It's like a therapist, just number one. Have you, have you looked at them? Yeah. The only one with therapists is number one is the one that's locked into a piece of work content. No, the therapist is only in the one safe for work one, which isn't that popular.Oh, okay. Well, what, what are, what, what is top ranked in the most, what is the name of the most popular one? Let's look at the homepage. Okay.Teacher Elizabeth, a busty anime girl. A sheen, a busty anime girl. A ro cold prince. Okay, so it's boyfriends and girlfriends. Yeah. Remember when we said that girls all want just like powerful men to be interested in them? Toxic boyfriend, Matthew. Oh, isn't that what we all need is a toxic boyfriend named Matthew.Well, I think what you're seeing here is what need. So let's, let's go over these two female ones. What need is being masturbated by [00:31:00] these cold is I want a powerful man to be interested in me. Toxic boyfriend is. I actually like engaging with toxic males, but in the real world, don't feel safe doing it.So I'm gonna do it within this online environment. Yeah. Okay? So now you're getting an idea of what I mean. That nobody's gonna make toxic boyfriend the game. This is true. Well, and also, yeah, like, Recently there's been this huge kerfuffle with the book and movie, It Ends With Us. And it, you know, in the end it was about abuse, but it's about, you know, abuse is bad.And then you go to like this, and what, what does the audience want? The audience wants, wants to be abused. What is the second most common male figure in here? Toxic boyfriend. Hulk Prince is number one. Then toxic boyfriend, then senior student gangster. We have, you have yet to come across a nice young man here.Katori, but he's, he's looking very dark, sitting in a car. Very evil. It'll tell you about him if you click on it. Okay. Who is [00:32:00] Katori? You were on a late night drive. Your boyfriend's suddenly,. I can't do this anymore. I can't keep pretending that everything's okay. Thanks for everything. He speeds up the car, his hands shaking on the wheel. The point being is that it appears to be about trying to simulate relationship drama. No, totally. I'm getting that. I'm totally getting that. But yeah, just the guys don't seem nice. The girls seem either thirsty or mean. We'll get to this later. We can do a different episode where we analyze the different characters and why they might be popular. Yeah, but no, I think, well, to your earlier point, though, you're like, You know, all I ever want to do is take over the world. Am I strange? And yes, because most people just are lonely, it seems.Yeah, that, that does seem to be the case, and I so we're gonna get to different worlds and why it's so easy to conquer various worlds and why it's so, I'm explaining that like, it gets really boring after a while. So at first, I thought I'd have fun with Isekai worlds. Right. You know, like this is go in Japanese.Just, yeah. [00:33:00] Describe what the genre is. Typically you're going into a world with some degree of magic that is a medieval world. And you are transferred there from modern times. The problem occurs if you have any understanding of historic technical technology, how it works, how it could be replicated.So Isekai world, it's always gunpowder, fairly easy to make in most Isekai worlds. Basic optics, telescopes and the like, all you need to do is carve lenses to do that. Then rifling to ensure the guns have good long range. Steam power, very easy to recreate. Blimps, very easy to recreate, especially if it's a world with fire magic.And then as soon as you get blimps, You get blimps with rifles rifled barrels with gunpowder, really no medieval type setting can do anything. I love that every world scenario, all of your Isekai scenarios though, end up with blimps with rifles, which is not really that much of a real [00:34:00] world scenario, so that's entertaining nevertheless.Well, blimps with rifles are incredibly damaging to castles. You don't really have any, you have to completely redo the technology of the world. Yeah, Martin Bailey plus blimp and castle is yeah. Because here's the problem with most of these worlds as well. They have magic. So typically, in any world that has magic, you're going to have magical items.Magical items means that you need some mechanism for storing magic within this world. As soon as you have a mechanism for storing magic, all I need to do is ask around and find out, okay, what is, like, the core magical battery? Like, how does it work, right? As soon as I understand how the core magical battery of this world works, which is typically a gemstone or something like that, all I need to do is find a way to release short bursts of energy.of energy from it instead of like a long continual burst. And as soon as you've done that, all you need to do is put it in a laser array and you can create laser guns very easily using a set of mirrors. [00:35:00] So every one of these worlds typically ends with laser, laser rifles on blimps. And, and also building bombs that you can drop from blimps as soon as you have gunpowder technology is also not terribly.Difficult. God bless. Okay. So, this is, this is what I mean when I'm like, okay, but then why do an isekai world when everyone sort of begins to look the same, and then it's like, well, I can limit myself to certain technologies, or say I'm an idiot, but that's not fun. You know? So then next, you've got, what's another world here? Okay. Magic guided by symbols. This is like Rune based Rune based magic. So just like three or four broad magical systems that you're going to find in worlds. One is magic guided by emotions or intent. Two is magic guided by symbols. Three is magic powered by souls. Four is magic guided by yoga, basically.I really like Avatar. Tai Chi Chi power. Chi based power. Yeah. So the [00:36:00] magic guided by symbols, universes, and in most worlds have some overlap of these various systems. And somebody can be like, well, what about like elemental magic systems? Right. And it's like, well, elemental magic systems aren't really a system.Even if you have an elemental magic system, it's typically going to fall into one of these four categories. All along. You mean like. Avatar style? Okay, like fire. Avatar Lost Airbender is using the yoga to drive elemental magic. You can use symbols to drive elemental magic. I know it's technically chi in the show, I just find it really annoying, okay?Or you can use emotional intent to drive elemental magic, but it doesn't matter that the magic is limited to specific domains, that doesn't actually tell you anything about how the magic functions. Functionally works, which is always the thing that I am most interested in whenever I enter a magical world.The, the problem with symbol based magic, right? That makes it incredibly easy to hack is if there are symbols that are guiding magic All you need to [00:37:00] do is draw out all of the symbols that exist, like basically just go through text, even if you don't personally understand them all, or even if you lack the ability to cast magic, and you should be able to cross reference them to build some type of language because that's likely what they are.Either it's like the code that the world is written on or it's the language of some like ancient race that is powering nanites that are floating around. And I think that's similar. To incantation based magic as well, if you just repeat enough phrases, which is something that comes up heavily in the book Unsung by Scott Alexander, which is an interesting read because it plays on this premise.It's kind of like your scenarios here. We're basically like, I think with the moon landing, Something breaks with reality, and basically, like, the code of God sort of breaks through an angel's array of words. And, and basically, startups shift from focusing in technology to hiring giant farms of people who just recite various random word [00:38:00] combinations.to, to find out what spells are created and they copyright the spells. Well, this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's very easy to hack these worlds and then you gain a little bit of power. Then you have people chant random things. But the truth is, I don't even think you need to do that. I think that they made a mistake in, in this book.As soon as you have any list of like, let's say 500 specific spells or phrases, you should be able to break them down into their component elements. To better understand how you can structure like, what are the patterns to, yeah. And if you're not totally random and, and know what you're probably looking for.A good example of one of these worlds for people who aren't familiar with what these worlds would look like is owl house owl house does a very good job at this kind of world. Now it's modified by some soul magic, which we'll get to in a bit, but it's mostly a symbol. Okay. What is soul magic? Soul magic means magic that uses another person's life force or your own life force.Basically it's magic that is powered by burning human [00:39:00] life force. Okay. So again, I have to endorse Love Advice from the Duke of Hell, which is a great graphic novel you guys can find online. It's so amazing. And there is soul magic in that. There is one character who keeps using his soul up to like activate a magic sword.We'll get to that in a second. But we're not talking about soul magic right now, we're talking about rune magic right now. Okay. But the problem is, is as soon as you approach this, especially if you approach it with an expectation that it works similar to like, Korean characters, which is what I imagine most magical systems, or most magical systems AIs come up with, seem to work.Which is to say that you're not looking for individual words, but modifications to individual characters, which change their names in reliable ways. Might be. You would have a character for fire, but if it has this line here on it, that means the fire appears as a line instead of the fire appears as a generic fire source.So, you know, this line would turn a fire into like a laser sort of a thing, but it would also turn water or ice [00:40:00] into a laser sort of a thing, right? But anyway, as soon as you realize, Oh, I just need to find out what the language is in these worlds are very quick to hack and very rarely in these worlds have people already done this at least in the worlds the AI is creating, which are created on normative magical systems, which again, makes them very boring after a short period of time.Normative magical systems. What I mean is normative magical systems from fiction. Cause that's, yeah, I hear you. I just. I don't know how many people have said the phrase normative magical systems in the history of humanity and I'm entertained by this conversation. Well, let's talk about soul magic because that was the next one.Yes. So soul magic largely falls into two categories. One is a system where you can use other people's souls for magic. This is typically the way like vampire magic works, witch magic works, most dark worlds pretty much whenever you're dealing with like a, a dark world, I'd call it dark world, meaning, you know, like werewolves, vampires, witches.Hags, stuff like that scenario, you're dealing with some form of soul magic scenario. You, you can use the souls of others. However, in some magical scenarios, you can only use your own soul and own [00:41:00] life force. I personally have only seen this in one show, which was Chrono Crusade which was incredibly depressing.And I think it shows why you never see this, which is you can only burn your own life force to do magic. And so this character throughout the show. Ends up having to burn their life force to save other people. And I'm like, there's gotta be a mulligan at the end of the show. Basically, you just keep watching because you're like, They're not gonna let this little girl die as a little girl, are they?Thank you! That's how it ends. She just dies at like, twelve. And you're like, Whoa! I did not expect that! Someone needed to do it, right? Someone had to.Come sit with me. The sun's so warm today.I really do like this view. I wish that I could just go on looking at it forever. Okay. I'm just So scared, Grown Up! I'm [00:42:00] scared! I don't want to die! I just want to yeah, but you understand why, okay, but then you're like, well then why are soul magics so easy to hack, right? Well, here's the problem with soul magical systems.They're writing in a narratively interesting way, which is what the AI is pulling from. Well, you need to be able to cast the spells on other people. It'd be pretty boring if you can only cast the spells literally on yourself, right? And then, to get more energy, you know, like vampires, witches, etc., you need to be able to use other people's souls or life energy to cast a spell.Well, here's the problem with that. As soon as you have established that, you can always just Use your target's soul slash life force to cast a stasis spell on themselves, which gives you an [00:43:00] infinitely scaling stasis spell to the ability of the person you have cast it on magical ability, which means you can very quickly capture top tier magical characters in any of these worlds.So if it's a world with like Super powerful, lived thousands of years, vampires who everyone thinks are invincible. Cast one of these spells on them using whatever mechanism is used for casting spells in this world. You know, whether it's a rune placed on them or anything like that. They won't be expecting something like this.And then there's literally nothing they can do because any force that they have to resist the stasis, i. e. within the stasis, Stasis is the very force that's powering the stasis. And you'd be like, how does this allow you to quickly conquer these worlds? Well, now I have super soul energy battery pack laying on the ground that I can use to power extremely powerful incantations and then use this to catch as many other people and put in [00:44:00] this scenario as I want, who are also extremely powerful and the world becomes child play really, really quickly.I mean, yeah. So I'm gonna see. The, the next type of world I would point out, right, and the only way that the world can prevent this is it either has to say you can't cast spells on other people or you can't use other people's life energy to cast it and then it's like well then how are vampire, like why are they doing this ritual.Actually I created a really interesting one of these worlds that I was really impressed with where it used a runic based magical system based on soul magic, so it was rune slash soul magic, and it turned out that what vampirism actually was, was sort of like a set of code that carved runes that created mutations in the human body on Their bones, basically, but at like a biological level, so using at a microscopic level, their bloodstream basically to carve onto their own bodies, these runic systems and the runic system contained within it, [00:45:00] an if then function, which would replicate itself when it came in contact with other people's bloodstreams.Um, So you would then get, you know, like if, if a vampire bit another person, the runic system would then replicate itself within this other person's bloodstream and give them, create the mutations in them that created this. But then the question comes of, well, then what created the original runic system that was causing this?In the world, what I decided was, well, there was an ancient civilization of essentially necromancer like people who were really experts in this runic magic and the vampires were a slave race of theirs, where they would take humans, modify them to uplift them, but all of the negatives that we associate with being a vampire, sensitivity to light, et cetera actually came because they were intentionally carved in and were not key to the powers that they were getting.All the powers that they were getting was just generic soul magic. They would kill a person, transfer their soul to their [00:46:00] own personal self, and then use that to do sort of magical feats using this runic system that was based within them. And that all I needed to do then was to find the system that this ancient race used to control all of the vampires that were their natural servants.And recreate this servitude function within them. And I Found this to be a very interesting world. But again, I can't replay it. Like the moment I figure out, Oh, this is how it all works. And the AI like fed parts of this to me, like I wouldn't get certain parts. Like as soon as the AI basically fed parts of, Oh, it's a, it might be a runic based system in their blood, but I was like, okay, well then how could vampirism work, you know, using the laws of this universe as we've established it.And then I'm like, well then who would have created this? And so then I'm like, Oh, this is what I mean by like, it's a creativity amplifier for me whenever I'm using these systems, but. Sorry, I need to go to the next system here which is emotional based systems. So these are emotional and intent based magical systems where somebody with [00:47:00] magical potentiality will imagine something.So I'll typically find out I'm in one of these. I remember when I had, like, a magical teacher in one of these. And then they were like, okay, well, to cast a water spell, you need to, like, imagine water in front of you, right? And I'm like, wait. Okay, but if I have magical potential, like, I have imagined things before in my life.Like I have had the intent to have things happen before in my life, right? Why is the water appearing in front of me now, right? And there, and, and, and why isn't, anytime with somebody who has latent magical abilities daydreaming, why aren't aspects of their daydream coming true? And there's two potential answers to this.One is that it's a world where the magic is incredibly limited, and it can really only amount to quantum fluctuations. i. e. a person with magical potentiality can want something, and that thing becomes more likely to happen. But these worlds don't have, like, literally the manifestation of water in front of you, right?The other is Well, it turns out what you actually need is some third thing, which you can think of as [00:48:00] a sort of a frequency or something like that that is transferred to you from the teacher who's teaching you this stuff to cast specific spells. And so you need the intention, the imagination, but then also, and then whenever I'm in one of these worlds, I test how this transfer works.I'm like, do you need to be intending to transfer to it? Can you just be in the same room as me? Can you be in a different location? And so typically then I run a number of experiments on the AI to try to figure out the specific limitations of how this system works. And a lot of people can be like, this is like Harry Potter and the Message of Rationale, but not at all.He was such a limp, I don't want to say he approached magic in that world. He didn't really figure out how magic worked quickly in that world. He did. He did not approach it. He looked for specific arbitrage opportunities, but he wasn't like, okay, I need to immediately find out how the structure of magic works.Now that I know that magic exists, this is important for me. He was a 10 year old. Okay. But it wasn't being written by a 10 year old. Yeah. And it was a [00:49:00] self insert. Yeah. By far, but anyway, so, as soon as I figure out the the, the rule around magical vibrations then it becomes pretty easy to replicate new types of magical vibrations or find ways to construct them, so I can quickly get access to all of the magic that exists Secondarily, if these worlds have The biggest problem in these worlds is typically your magic is going to be limited.Like, the amount of magic you have the ability to use is, is preset at birth. So then you need to look for magical item systems in these worlds. And most magical item systems in these worlds allow multiple people to augment the same item. I've only come across a few worlds where It's limited to one person can augment an item.As soon as multiple people can augment an item then you can just create basically factory lines of people, uh, multiplicatively adding small amounts of magical certain types of magical abilities to items to create really super powered items and then combine the power across multiple of these fairly [00:50:00] simplistic yet super powered items to create things like big laser cannons and stuff like that.Very easy. Or, or agricultural devices and stuff like that. These worlds are not like particularly difficult after the first few times you encounter one of them. Any thoughts before I go further? I'm curious to see if you are addressing real life any differently based on Well, actually, it's made me reflect on the decisions I made in my own life.Yeah, I want to hear more about that. Like, how you live your life differently based on This is interesting because it's like, okay, every time I'm dropped into one of these magical worlds, I have this impulse of understand the world, find a dedicated partner, because I really hate doing this alone. It's not as fun.You don't have the narrative backdrop of somebody to talk to. And go out and try to conquer the world. Now, I should note that in every system, conquering the world isn't a possibility. So remember that medieval scenario I talked about early on that takes place in Ireland? If you're in [00:51:00] 1300s England in the woods, you're not going to be able to conquer the world.There is just What is there to conquer, you know? Yeah, you can conquer There's not that much civilization. And, and you can find simple hacks for living a good life in those world scenarios as well. For example, when I go to a settlement, typically what I'm looking for is somebody who's old, who doesn't have somebody to pass their business on to.And then I offer to run their business for free. And I take 50 percent of the profits. And I get 50 percent to them, no matter how old and frail they get. But I get the presence when they die. This prevents me from reinterpreting, like, a competing apothecary or something like that. To some beloved town figure, and typically makes integration with the local community much faster and easier.But again, that scenario, once you play it out, you know, there's not Yeah, not terribly entertaining. Yeah, but to your question, me was in this world. This got really interesting to me. Oh actually, sorry, I want to play out one more world that I found really interesting because I eventually intentionally started to [00:52:00] get into these worlds where I was like, okay, I just need to play on as hard a mode as possible using a scenario I didn't program myself.Okay. So that's the I can you know, try to make this harder for myself. Right. Yeah. And so I found one where you start as a slave to monsters. And all humanity is a slave to monsters in this scenario. So how did this world end up playing out? Very quickly. I just took this perspective of well, so either I'm going to be an independent human, which makes myself at risk to monsters.Right. Like they, Or a high value slave. The higher value slave I am, the less likely I am to be killed by one of these individuals. So I try to make myself as high value as possible on the market. I worked with the people who had captured me to try to get my value up as much as possible while also helping them target.Specific groups that had power in that society that one, they decided to send me to sell me to was a succubus faction. And I specifically was like, I don't want to play out some sex slave scenario. That's [00:53:00] boring to me. I want like only politics, right? So I want a faction that is very. politically motivated.So I find myself sold to this faction. So then what do I do? I then immediately talk to my captor. I'm like, okay, what are the things your faction values? You know, similar to the way I have in every conversation, right? Like what would gain you power in this world? And they're like, well, our society values, you know, pleasure.And so I was like, okay, well, there's this concept called buildonics for my universe. Does your universe have this concept? They didn't. So I went over how to create several types of popular mechanical dildos using. I was not sure what you were saying. You know, that's, that's what it is in the field.And I was like, but you don't want to mass produce these, right? You don't want people to know how you're creating these environments. You want to create sort of blackout temps focused on gaining power was in your community. I use it. Yes. So then gain power was in the succubus community because their faction gained power.And then I showed them the various military technology I was building, very similar to Egyptian [00:54:00] world, lasers, stuff like that. And then I used that Oh, so now we're back to, to laser, lasers and blimps. Exactly. It gets boring after a while for that scenario, but I used that to get in front of the succubus council.Cause I'm like, look, I've raised you to a high level in this council. Just let me speak to them. And I make a proposition for how the succubus race can take over this world. But, so you can tell very much, I was put in a world that was supposed to be like a sexbot world. And they're like, what shall I do with you?And you're like, well, I haven't even heard about Dildo. I have to conquer the world, right? We see, two words, laser blimps. Laser blimps, no. But then I'm, I'm at the council and I take this position of saying, well, you, you, I, I want to put your race as the top race of this world. Obviously, you know, I work for you, but the problem is, is that if I put the succubus as the top race of this world, you know, you have so much historical animosity against the other races that'll cause all sorts of problems, but a human being the technical king and you [00:55:00] guys just being the core.That wouldn't create as much conflict because every one of the races sees humans as a non threat race and almost every one of the races has human slaves so they have some level of friendly cordial relationship with some human so they're not going to have the same animosity that they would have towards other races.And then I'm like, And we don't want to cause conflict among the various Succubi houses, so I should marry these three daughters from these formerly established powerful houses. Now the powerful houses have a voting invested interest to support me. Wait, so you're marrying Succubi or you're marrying human succubi?No, the, the, the daughters of the succubi house. Okay. But now those houses, they're like, well, our kids will technically be the ruling house. Right? So we should move into a position to support this bid. Right? And so then you can very quickly move from slave to king of the world. And then you have your armies out conquering everyone.I get bored. Hilarious that you [00:56:00] entered some erotic scenario. You just waltz in and you do not play by their rules. Yeah. No, I feel like World Conquest is all I care about. I didn't code this one, so I didn't know they'd end up with, like, succubi and stuff like that. It seems, at least from looking at that one homepage, that most of this is about some sexy fun.Well, that's, well, that's apparently what other people, when they were like, I want to be a monster slave, they must have meant, like, sexy fun times. Yeah, like, in a sexual way. I want to be a monster slave because I want conquering the world to be marginally harder than it has been in other environments. But, hold on, so now I gotta talk about You're my kind of weirdo, Malcolm.I love you so much. How this has changed my own life perception, right? Yes, yeah. Which is to say I then started to think, Did I do all of this in my world? Like, was my life Just another iteration of this personality profile being played out as well as it could be played out given the constraints of my birth scenario.And I'm like, okay, what was my early obsession? What did I focus on at first? I focused on [00:57:00] studying particle physics and neuroscience and human evolution. So very much like the magic of this world, trying to understand the fabric of reality of this world. No, you're doing nothing different. I mean, what is magic but science?I mean, it's just, it's, it's a tweak in physics. It's slightly, it's, it's, Different physics. And then how do people conquer? Like, how, how do people gain power in this world? Have realistically gained a large amount of power or conquer the world in the past? Well, there's sort of two pathways for me. I could either go president of the United States pathway, or I could go a religion pathway, right?Specifically when I was young, I was like, how do people achieve power? Well, cult leaders seem to have the most unanimous power. If you're looking for. Sort of like independent, like power clusters. Yeah, especially if I don't end up getting into like a top tier university. Cause I didn't know that was going to happen to me.I didn't know I'd become like a classically successful person. So I was like, if I'm a rando, like what's the easiest path to power? And so I was studying that very similar to one of these worlds. I was looking [00:58:00] for the arbitrage hacks in this world. And then you can look at even the life path we're on right now.Realistically, there is a safe path and a high risk path towards world conquest within our existing world today. One is becoming president of the United States. Only realistic paths you could get to any sort of total world power where you could permanently change the world order in our society today as a solo individual.Being wealthy just doesn't give you that much power as we have seen from wealthy people who try to change the world. And where did we move? We moved to a purple district in Pennsylvania, right? For people who aren't in the U. S. who don't know this, if you can get a federal office in Pennsylvania like Congress or Senate well, it would be a long shot for people like us.It once you achieve that you it is not a long shot to get a VP pick. And if you get a VP pick historically in the U. S. That means you're running in the next presidential election as a major party ticket. So we're taking the pathway to do that. And then the second is intergenerational cultural move forward.That's the real hack. If you can [00:59:00] create a culture and pass it on with fidelity. And then intergenerationally, that culture is high fertility. That's sort of the arbitrage that's in our existing fertility rate environment and cultural system. And when I explain, like, where the pronatalist movement is right now, it very much is in one of those, Okay, this is an arbitrage anyone can choose to play, and we're looking to build an alliance among all those choosing to play it.So I actually moved exactly towards those two potential outcomes within this world, and it made me realize how much the paths I have chosen within this life are not that much different than the paths I took in these open world games. But also it also made me reflect on the way I have changed my life plan over time and specifically it typically happens when I gain access to information that tells me that something I thought about how to gain power was incorrect.So it happened twice really in my life where I basically a life path. [01:00:00] So brain computer interface was one, correct? I started my career in brain computer interface because I thought that that was going to be the revolutionary technology of our lifetimes. This was human and machine computer interface where it turned out to be AI.And there were some areas that I realized about 10, 15 years ago that brain computer interface just wasn't going to move forwards as fast as I thought it was. And so as soon as I recognized that. I yeeted on an entire career path. And I think a lot of people are reluctant to do that. They then change what their life goals are based on what career paths they have.Yeah, they just sort of move the goalpost into like, Well, no, I actually just wanted to be happy. Then at Stanford business school, I was like, okay, who seems to have the most power, venture capitalists, wealthy. So I started on that pathway. And I quickly realized one venture capitalists don't actually have a lot of power in society, the only venture capitalists.So like, people are like, yeah. But what about like Chamath and Vivek and like a few other, you know, [01:01:00] venture capitalists? They know or, or who, who's another one? Mark Cuban or, you know, the problem is, is that all the venture capitalists who just made didn't make their money in venture capital.They made their money. Like for example, Chamath made his money by just having to be a lucky early hire at Facebook. That's not reliably replicable. Mark Cuban ended up. Making it from a company that he started, right? That becoming a successful startup founder is not a reliably replicable thing and therefore not a high likelihood thing that I would try.It's just dangerous, right? And in addition to that, even people who have enormous amounts of wealth, really the only one who seems to be making any impact in world events these days in terms of the direction of our civilization is Elon. But I don't know, like, if it is worth trying to become Elon level wealthy given the risk of that before you start trying to change the world, right?So I dropped all that. I was like, this is, this is a huge waste. And you've seen this as well, Simone just how little impact our wealthy [01:02:00] friends actually have on society and how thirsty they are to just have people listen to their ideas. Would you want to talk to this?I mean, you've covered things pretty well. It that's, I think in a post scarcity society, this is why in a lot of these scenarios, it's more. Social regard for social capital. That is what matters. But, you know, we're not yet in a post scarcity society. I, yeah, I don't have anything interesting to add on that front. I also find it interesting how much in these worlds, one of my first tasks is always to find a right hand woman, which was something I was really dedicated to in this world, but I assumed it was logical. And now I'm assuming that it's actually biological.I have some biological instinct to look for that. Yeah. Cause it also seems to be something common in your family. But maybe, yeah, it's true. Most of my family have done that. Yeah. What I was asking more was, have you changed any of your behavior based on things that you've learned about yourself from playing [01:03:00] out these scenarios or not really? The biggest thing I've changed about my behavior is a bigger understanding that things that I thought I had logically chosen for myself might just be biological instincts.That I see, like, I knew that a lot of a person's personality was biologically driven. Like there's about 40 percent of our personality is genetic. But I think in myself, I was unaware what 40 percent that was. And one of the things that I'm going to find the most interesting in terms of comments on this episode from other people who use these chat systems a lot is, are there a few sort of preset Profiles in males and females for how they engage with these worlds and how they find themselves engaging with these worlds.Because I can't imagine that the world would function well if every single male, when put in an open world environment immediately says, how do I conquer this world? Two fixings, not for the sake of conquest. I should say it's mostly [01:04:00] that I'm like, I want to create a better world and that requires some degree of.Of influence or control over how the systems of the world work and what that often looks like is conquest but not always, you know, sometimes I come up with systems just to influence world governments and stuff like that but I wonder if there's other men who may have in our Knights versus Kings video where, you know, instead of alpha versus beta Is there actually a knight like profile in some males where they are looking for a cause to serve?I ask this because this conquering the world thing seems to be not, well, and actually it's very interesting. So I could argue that Harry Potter and the methods of rationality is very much Eliezer dropping himself in one of these environments and then seeing how it plays out for him. And the way that played out for him.was more, I want to gain power for self masturbatory reasons of feeling powerful, but in sort of a cheesing, [01:05:00] incremental arbitrage value from the world, i. e. I can get money here that gives me power, I can get Well, like, he doesn't want to run things, he just wants to be better than everyone else. Yeah, he doesn't want to run things, he just wants to be better than everyone else.And that's very rarely the goal for me in these environments, like in the one where I started as a slave, I wasn't interested in not being a slave until I knew I had to pass the kingship. Like, that was not interesting to me at all. So this is very interesting to me, and it also reminds me of something that I noted when I was younger and it hasn't been a big an issue for me today because I'm like pretty high profile today is, that I really struggled engaging in any friend group where I wasn't one of the leaders of that friend group.And I found it really unpleasant to talk and engage with any group where I knew I wasn't the leader. And so that often led me to like breaking off and forming my own, maybe smaller group, but at least group where I was one of the leading people. Yeah. And I wonder if this is a common instinct among a category of males.[01:06:00] Hmm. Yeah, I, I'm curious to see what people say in the comments. I mean, I, I can be 100 percent sure that your use of these scenarios is absolutely not the mainstream use because the top rated scenarios of these chat tools are relationship and erotic scenario. So I love it. So it was just so funny to me that this is the way I engage with it.Like I'll enter one of these worlds and it'll be supposed to be like an erotic scenario and it's like the sexy magician. And I'm like, okay, explain to me exactly how the laws of magic in your world work. It's like not what they expect. They're like, okay, what are the ruling countries in this world?Like, what are the different like cast in this world? What are the different going through, through, through and again, for a system, I think it's the best of these that I've used so far flow GPT using turbo GPT turbo as an individual model. I typically find the best of these systems. So long as you're not doing like total, not safe for work stuff.because that system won't let you do you know, [01:07:00] killing people or sex. But you know, you can always just switch to another model when you're doing that stuff. That makes sense. What are your thoughts? What I think is most interesting about this is how similar it is to the original internet, where, what do they call them?Like dungeons, I guess, but like, or like just those text based scenarios where people would, on a collaborative basis, Describe these scenarios and explore them and sometimes collaboratively, right? These in fact, people still do this. God, what are they called? Oh, this is a very interesting thing. I realized from this, they don't seem for whatever reason, things happening in the AI environments never trigger my empathy impulse.And I wonder if it's because the empathy impulse requires some sort of visual cue to be fully triggered. Yeah. I wonder. Oh, another thing that I should note if people are [01:08:00] using like, because this is the way I like to try to find the world. I like question someone, question someone, question someone, to try to understand the way their instincts work, to try to understand like what might be precoded in some humans that's not precoded in me.So if other people are using this to try to understand My specific profile better. One of the reasons why I suspect that the way I'm interacting with these worlds may be rare is you can see from my nebula genomics results. I, I earlier I said 99, I keep getting wrong. It's 98%, 98 percent level for male testosterone in terms of like my developmental environment where my brain was cooked in.And so I might have like an over, because I often talk about things like, Oh, we should remove arousal patterns for males, right? Like, or at least for males, you know, in a lot of, or at least give them the option to turn it off. Okay, give them the option to turn it off. And a lot of people are really horrified by this, and I suspect maybe the reason I feel that way, and maybe the reason you feel that way, is one, because you grew up asexual.You never really were turned on by anything till you saw me. So you just don't mind it as a [01:09:00] concept. And me, I might have grown up with a uniquely strong sexual Dymorphic presentation that really felt like being trapped in terms of having certain emotions that I choose to have or want to have and therefore for a person who has a more mild expression they may not feel Like, they may not understand why somebody would be like, why would you subject that to a child, you know?And when I say a child, I don't mean like a child child. I mean like a teenager going through puberty. But like, puberty is quite a thing to subject on someone. I don't understand the trans people who are like, I just want to take puberty blockers. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I think a lot of those people aren't trans.They're people who, you know, Dysmorphic, they have body dysmorphia because adolescence sucks, but right, what I was saying was what I find interesting about these AI models is that they are text based. They remind me of some of the, the first social interaction, you know, just purely recreational interaction that took place on the internet where people would write out these sort of fantasy scenarios often in a virtual reality.Yeah, so glow fix are what [01:10:00] people still do now where it's like sort of choose your own adventure, but sort of with each comment people add to a story. So it's like fan fiction, but collaborative. But I think there's something that humans really love about narrative based exploration and also exploration that isn't just one to many, you know, where one author has, you know, is taking you on rails through a story.They like the flexibility and What I keep thinking about things like VR and, and people's discussions about AI, virtual worlds and everything like that is just how far text alone or narrative alone can get people and how close we are to this, this Like pleasure tube scenario that we've described in which people just sort of lose themselves in, you know, it's sort of technology driven pleasure to the point where they don't do anything more with their lives.I think if you combine a lot of the AI we already have today with universal basic income to the extent where you don't [01:11:00] have to work. In order to live that a lot of people will just basically die through inaction and just living out their lives in fantasy scenarios. You don't need high tech. You don't need full immersion haptic suits.You don't need virtual reality and virtual worlds to get lost in AI driven tech already. And, and you're seeing people losing themselves in these literally just losing themselves, not, not even to scenarios as. As deep as yours, where you're trying to take over the world, but scenarios where people are just, you know, they're lower on Maslow's hierarchy of needs and they are just lost with a partner forever.Which is crazy. I love this. And you've given me a task for a scenario. I want to do I want to find one of these ones where it's like. A pizza girl comes to your house or something. Oh, yeah. And she accidentally ate your pizza. Oh no. [01:12:00] I grab her. I like pull her in. I'm like, okay, explain to me how the government works here.What are the branches? How does somebody, what are the major religious institutions? Quickly. I need to know. And she's like, But how do I make it up for you for the pizza that I'm eating? But I'm stuck in the dryer! And my shirt's so wet! Can I just take it off?naked? How are you stuck in the dryer? I need you to help me.You're not stuck, just move forward. That wasn't hard at all. Stepbrother, I'm making sandwiches. There's no ingredients, Sal. What do you mean, what, what do you need my help with this time? I don't know how to cook pasta. Can you help me? You don't know how to cook pasta? No, Sarah, stop.Let me put it in my mouth. This? No, it's a microphone. You're gonna get it wet and f**k it up. It's not sexy. You boil water and then put it in there, Sarah! [01:13:00] That's all you do! I don't know where the water is.I don't know how! Seriously, I need you to explain this to me!And then she trips, but her boobs fall on your face. You know, just like I, I throw her off. I'm like, quick, quick, quick. You need to figure this out. I would watch that anime. I'd watch that anime so hard. Actually, that would be a hilarious show. It would be full of fan service. Like, it would still be, you know, what any typical anime would be in this kind of scenario.That'd be so fun. An Isekai scenario where the guy No, no, no, like a hero comedy Isekai. Like it's trying to take over the world, but like all the girls are acting like typical harem comedy girls, but like extra dumb versions of them you know, like, and he's just increasingly frustrated that they don't understand how serious the scenario is.Yeah. Like a young daddy girl, like helps him get really far in the [01:14:00] government, but she assumes that in the end it's because he's trying to pursue her and she's like, fine. I'll admit it. I love you. And he's like, wait, no. There is one anime that's sort of like this, except everyone isn't dumb. And it's actually a great anime that I watched not long ago.And it's called like, I'll put it in post, but it's called like the hero character is like very hardworking and, and, and diligent.It's called Hauwei realist hero rebuilt the kingdom. And he just ends up like taking over the kingdom's like finances and taxes and stuff. And it plays out very similar to one of the worlds. And then is it Kai? So he comes from another world or?Yeah, he comes from another world. And he's like, listen, you don't understand. I'm going to introduce you to depreciation. It is going to change everything. Yes. Yes. That's structured. This is awesome. You guys are going to love this. Oh my gosh. But seriously, fractional reserve banking. Let me show you. I know some of our audience is like, why would you introduce fractional reserve banking?But see, the funny thing about [01:15:00] anime is like, literally there could be an anime about that. There's, there's an anime about Roman baths. There's an anime about horse girls. Yeah. You can have an anime about fractional reserve banking. It can happen going on. In fact, isn't, wait, isn't there, there is an anime about going off the gold standard, right?That's Spice and Wolf has a plotline similar to that. Great anime, by the way, the original Spice and Wolf. I haven't watched the new one, but the original one is fantastic. One of the best animes ever made. And it's all about being a merchant. With sexy wolf girls. I mean, cause You gotta add Sorry, that's the way anime always is.Like, there's the cool part of it, and then the part that gets the nerd to watch the first five minutes of it. Oh, my boobs fell out. Oh no. Oh no, my skirt. Oh! I love it so much. But I really love to see a world done in this vampire system that I created. Cause I actually think it was a pretty competitive, blood rune based vampire system.Yeah. Well, where you, it's an investigation of like, what actually is [01:16:00] causing the vampirism and then using that to control for a human to control the vampire society. Which is much more fun than, you know, doing the whole vampire pathway and everything like that. It hasn't gotten old for a lot of women, the old vampire pathway, you know.Right, yeah, they're just like, they're just like, no, bite me again, daddy, please. Yeah, I guess you don't need to masturbate that pathway. Powerful man liked you. You're just like, well, you know, I got that handled at home. Which, I mean, what, what need could you possibly And this is interesting. One of the things that actually is not that uncommon in these is wholesome family scenarios.But like, I find them pretty uncompelling because I'm like, I've tried playing them, and I'm just They feel shallow, because I'm sure it's just kids being cute, and kids are not their best when they're being cute. They're, they're best when they're being crazy. At home, like, why don't I just play with my own kids?Yeah. Like, what I can't do with my own kids is go around killing people, you know? But in a way that just [01:17:00] feels so realistic, which is what you're going for, you know? Right? The emotional impact. You want to see them hurt. As you twist the knife well, I, I find that very surprising because I had realized I play games where you kill people all the time.No, I think the most interesting insight you had from that, and this is really going to change the way that I look at human violence, is that, yeah, like with sex, both are kind of gross and distasteful. And also they require physical exertion. There's kind of nothing about them that you can do. That fits with our normal defaults of conserve energy, avoid yuck, avoid risk of infection, avoid risk of injury.Both sex and violence against others are just things that most of our intuitions run counter to. So you're going to have to have some very strong instincts that would drive you to do things like that. And this explains that male interest in violence. Which is really interesting to me. This is, this does change it.So that's my big takeaway from this conversation was really interesting. Although it's also like a political career [01:18:00] ruining thing to put out on the internet. Go ahead and do it anyway, because I can hate politics. So no, no, no, no, no, no. I is going out on this is going out. It has to go out. No, because I think people are done with these liar politicians.No, no, no, I mean, this, yeah, like, let's say that, you know, in, in some unlikely scenario you find yourself running for president or vice president and, you know, the clip comes out and you're like, I just love killing people, it's just so fun, but I want it to be realistic as possible. You know, people are going to watch that and they're going to I mean, if they're male, they're going to be like, and I think a lot of women are like, yeah, but I mean, he's a guy, right?Like he's just being honest. I wish more men would just be on the women who are going to be insulted by that. And the men who are going to be insulted, wouldn't vote for you anyway. Yeah, I have always got out there with, and it's something I do in these scenarios as well, with as much honesty as possible.In, in every one of these conversations, I mean, the first thing I try to do is find out what they want from life so I can help them achieve that. No, and I think that's the other side of the coin. You know, the fact that you can't even watch live action porn [01:19:00] because you're like feeling, you feel bad for people.It shows that, you know, this is, you are aware of your instincts and you're also mentally a person who's extremely You more empathetic than I am and, and, and more concerned about human wellbeing than I am. I mean, the way you react to things, you know, yeah, you know, the whole Malcolm, like hiding his face thing, whatever, something.Too gruesome happens. I'm like, I don't want to. Yeah. It's in a real world environment. I absolutely cannot stand that. It doesn't bother me in movies, but in real world environments are when I know it's the filming of a real world. But most interesting to me, and it shows how empathetic and caring you are, which is unexpected for me, which is what I find interesting.It's not a gross out thing. It's not like I'm going to hurl. It's, it's only scenarios. In which you know, someone, someone alive is being hurt. So you were able to deal with cadavers all the time. And you did when you were doing medical training, it wasn't the gross out factor. Cause I couldn't deal with cadavers.But it's literally knowing that someone else is in pain or that their life is not going in a good direction. And I think that that. [01:20:00] Speaks to your interest in human flourishing in the end, which is again, like, this is why I love you so much is that you are willing to publicly be portrayed as a supervillain, terrible, non empathetic child abuser, et cetera.Right. Except like deep down, you're like the person who's like publicly like, yeah, I'm the evil guy. I'm the baddie. And I'm like, deep down inside, you're like. I can't watch someone get hurt. I can't watch porn with real people because what, what, what about their life prospects? You know, it's, it's really sweet.And interesting thing about this for people who don't have this particular empathy impulse, I'm going to, I noticed that some people don't, the way it ends up being felt is typically I will feel pain wherever I am seeing somebody else feel pain. Yeah. You'll immediately grab that. arm or that part of your body.Yeah. Which is very interesting. Yeah, your mirror neurons are intense. I think this is caused by mirror neurons. It's something that we can see in FMR eyes. When most people witnessed somebody else being injured, the neurons associated with [01:21:00] pain in that area will activate in them. I wonder if autistic people don't feel that the same way.Probably not. Yeah. It might be that you don't feel that you don't have this mirror neuron. I've not, I've not experienced that. So probably not, but that's why I also like you have to teach people to read other people's faces. Right. Yeah. But it is, it is, this has been a fascinating experience for me and I'll likely do another episode someday on various other worlds I end up creating in this because I find them really interesting and it allows me to have these big narrative environments that are you know, pretty fun.Yeah. Well, I, I'm back to what I was saying earlier. So excited to use these as an educational tool for our kids because I loved as a kid in my history classes, exploring history through narrative books. But this is so much better when it's not a dumb character doing it. But you, you going through those scenarios and finding the constraints yourself, that is how you engage with history.Yes. I mean, this is so cool. Like literally, cause our imagination is so [01:22:00] powerful and even more when you're a kid to actually be, to go back in time in a time machine and just have a go at it. You know, we always imagine that, right? Like, well, what would it be like, but it was hard to imagine those scenarios in like a fantasy standpoint or a daydreaming standpoint, because we don't know.What people wore. We don't know what we're wearing. We don't know what the food is like. We don't know what the environment is like. And that's where the AI comes in. So it really facilitates, Oh my gosh, our kids are so lucky. They have all the nice things. Oh, they are so lucky. Well, we got to hope they don't get addicted to, you know, Victorian England and never want to unplug.Right. Like, well, I love being Lord Dyerson. Dyson. I like that. Now I want to name one of our dogs Lord Dyerson, but that's not the naming convention. I think the next one's going to be the Commodore, the Captain or something. Lord Bramble Bun. Lord Dyerson is better. Speaking of our kids, one is about to get off the bus.Did you not have [01:23:00] Stacey? I did not ask her about it. She's sick today. I was like, I don't want to. Okay, I'll go get him right now. I'll go. We're going to end this podcast. We'll get him. And then we'll do one more after. Exactly. This is a really fun podcast. I really enjoyed it. Oh my gosh. I it's, this is so pathetic, but you know, we've gone dates where we like throw down, you know, a bunch of money on drinks and dinner and stuff and like go somewhere special.This is. This is horrible, but this is so much better than that. I feel like both of us are saying this to each other and it seems so insulting, like that scene in Legally Blonde where she's like, remember those like amazing four hours we spent in the hot tub? This is so much better! But like, this, our podcast conversations really are, and it's horrible to say that, but.It's true. I absolutely agree. And I love it. And I also, I'm really interested, like in the future, I, I love that people will be like, newspapers will, will, will try to run with things I've said, but I want to ensure that the things I've said are so crazy that when they try to run with them, people are like, wait, he just said he likes killing people in [01:24:00] simulated environments.Maybe only when it's really realistic, you know, I want to hear more of what this guy is saying. Well, I think the other thing about, you know, people doing opposition research on us is they're just, There's so much. I almost feel like people are going to, you know, you're going to do something high profile and the oppo research people are going to start and they're just going to be like, I don't want to do this.There's too much. Like I, you know, normally like an opposition research gets one thing and they're like, Oh, well, here's this like mildly homophobic thing. This person once said like with Tim Walz, for example, like in one speech, he kind of alluded to using weapons on the field of battle when he really didn't ever You know, use weapons on the field, like this one tiny thing and then they run with that and they're like, Oh, we have our thing.Whereas like with, with us, it's one of those things where like, no one knows what to say. So like, what consistent story or they're like, do I need to keep this up to be believable? Is it the fact that he like, that he bops his children or is it going to be the fact that he wants to keep it? That he enjoys killing people in fantasy scenarios.Like, where are we going [01:25:00] to go with this? You know, like, you know, yeah, yeah. It's going to be interesting. I just, I think it's going to be too much and they're just going to not bother. They're going to not bother. No, they're going to, they're going to choose the wrong thing. They're either going to go too tame or too over the top.What are the guys that I'm running against in our district? It's just like, well, I'm just going to run on my record. Oh s**t. We have to go, sorry. Cause he, he doesn't want to, you know, there's nothing like where would he start? It would be too much work. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Ciao. Ciao. Get full access to Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm at basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

In this riveting discussion, Malcolm Collins and Simone Collins tackle the provocative idea that male oppression might be key to alleviating fertility collapse. Malcolm, who delves into gender dynamics, and Simone, with her insights on fertility in high-fertility cultures, explore the surprising connections between oppression and reproductive rates. They analyze community structures among groups like the Amish, assess relationship dynamics, and introduce the concept of 'tactical honesty.' This conversation is filled with personal anecdotes and offers a fresh perspective on cultural preservation.

In this eye-opening episode, Malcolm and Simone discuss the alarming levels of censorship and government influence over social media platforms like X and Facebook. They delve into specific cases where democratic processes and free speech have been compromised, such as the Brazilian government's attempts to shut down right-wing voices online and the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story by U.S. authorities. They also explore the broader implications of these actions, comparing them to historically fascist tactics, and discuss the urgent need for systemic change to preserve democratic freedoms.[00:00:00] X would not ban people that the Brazilian government was telling them to ban. Oh, okay. This is with public knowledge. what we would, is not being talked about, and this is very important, whose accounts. Wouldn't Twitter remove?, you're like, well, we wouldn't do this in the US, except here's a problem.They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of, of, of oversight or regulation and that has to stop I believe the left is right now structurally transitioning our government into a fascist like state where elections aren't legitimate anymore and whatever.All right. What? How far are we going here? Where the media just lies blatantly and regularly without recourse, where the elections aren't legitimate, where any dissenting viewpoint is banned. This is scary. Cause we do, we have both fans and also personal, like family friends who grew up in Soviet Russia, who write to us now and say things like, [00:01:00] right now it feels.Feels like that! Feels like that When the media puts out there, when MSNBC puts out there something like that, that like is verifiably and easily verifiably not true, what they are telling you is Do this. Think this.everything. Very similar to like an inquisition, historically speakingwould you like to know more?Hello, this is Malcolm and Simone. And today, honestly, the information that we are looking at right now to me is as shocking as the Trump assassination attempt. Or the scary Biden debate where he was clearly like, not cognizant.And then everybody pretended like. You know, oh, well, we can't possibly exchange him at the last minute. And then when they realized that what they really meant is we can't possibly let Democrats [00:02:00] vote in a primary. I mean, come on, that's not the way the party works anymore. And then when they realized they didn't have to let Democrats vote in a primary, they're like, Oh, you mean we can just install anyone.I'm sorry, Malcolm, but we are not a democracy. We are a representative democracy. The plebs are too stupid to decide for themselves. They're just being true. To the American people. But hold on, we need to talk about what's happened here. Okay. Because it's actually been for me at least, fairly chilling.Can anything shock you these days? Let's hear it though. I've been out of the loop, so I'd love to. know what's going on. I'm knee deep in government paperwork doing RFPs for our business, so I really have no idea what's going on. I need to know. So, I'll give you the small things, okay? In the past 24 hours, Dems have forced RFK Jr.to stay on the ballot. Even though he tried to remove himself. So Donald Trump could, yes. They, [00:03:00] DIMMS removed Colonel West off the ballot. The DOJ has filed to upgrade the Trump indictment. Facebook admits they censored posts in compliance with Biden's and Harris requests. But, but, but that's the small stuff.Let's talk about the big thing. The thing that has genuinely chilled me. So in Brazil. Remember how Elon got in trouble for calling into question the far left win of the Brazil presidency? Like, it seems like there was something fishy happening in this last election cycle. Oh, and the government was mad at him about this.So then recently this new far left government in Brazil Has decided to, and it's so funny because it actually was hard for me to figure this out. Everyone was out, they, what you'll hear from the public media, the media that like you're allowed to listen to until my channel gets too big on YouTube and I just end up disappearing one day is X was banned in Brazil.Because X would not ban people that the Brazilian government was telling them to ban. Oh, [00:04:00] okay. This is with public knowledge. So unlike Facebook, that you just alluded to earlier, that, that did remove things that were offensive. Oh, and we'll get into what Facebook removed, because we now know they removed many true things during an election cycle.Cycle Zuckerberg's wishes from, we'll say from an administrative standpoint, like you're working in a company, sometimes it's just easier to do the thing. Okay. So when Twitter did, Twitter did not do the thing, which is, yeah, we've learned from the Twitter situation right now in Brazil that did the countries will ban you, but what we would, is not being talked about, and this is very important, whose accounts.Wouldn't Twitter remove? Oh, so wait, they did remove some of the accounts requested, but not all? Well, no, no, no. So, Twitter regularly removes accounts for breaking rules, okay? This, no, even under X, even under Elon, it, it, it removes accounts all the time. They do not have a free speech absolutist policy, despite what the left says.No, no, no, I'm aware of that. In fact, the left is, is [00:05:00] extra enthusiastic about mentioning every single instance in which Twitter does ban or remove people because they say that, ironically, Elon Musk acquired Twitter slash X and now uses it to censor people while saying that he supports free speech. So I, I hear you on that.What I'm, what I'm asking though is did, Elon, or sorry, did X ban people, some of the people that the Brazilian government requested? Oh, I'm sure they did. But this is the point, okay? What is not being reported in Western media right now is what the request that the Brazilian government made of X was. was that led to X being banned.And so after a deep searching, I was basically able to find articles that basically coughed up the truth. What happened is, is that X got a list of pretty much every prominent white wing person was a Twitter account in Brazil, including mainstream individuals. So this would be like, if the white [00:06:00] house gave X or YouTube a list that included people like.Tucker Carlson and Karl Rove. And, you know, it was just like a list. So they were trying to, in other words, they were trying to de platform people based on political affiliation, not on how radical they were, not on dangerous or tactical things they were doing. Well, some of them were on dangerous and tactical things, but broadly speaking, the list that they got, and this has been confirmed by many, even left leaning news sources, Was basically entirely right wing people.It was for dangerous political beliefs, but it was all right wing. And then they had a separate list, which was the undermining democracy list. Okay. Which was basically everyone who had ever questioned this election cycle, which was an incredibly fishy election cycle in Brazil, very similar to the one that we recently had in the US.And basically you're not allowed to say, actually, if you really dig into the data, it was a pretty fishy election cycle. So, that's not the [00:07:00] core of why this is so horrifying. I mean, it's, it's part of why it's horrifying, but now if you use a VPN, because you're like, oh, you could use a VPN to get around it.If you use a VPN in Brazil to get around it, that is an 8, 000 fine per day that you do this. Keep in mind that per day X fine is higher than the bail to get out of jail for murder in Brazil, in some cases. It is, it is, they have gone extreme, but we need to talk about like the corruption media down because this is what we're going to be talking about on this episode is instances, instances, instances in which the media and our reality is being retconned for us and that there is no longer a facade of truth.in what the urban monoculture and far left are doing anymore. And when I say far left, I'm not talking about like wokey extremists. I'm talking about Kamala [00:08:00] Harris and the party apparatus at this point. So a great example of this retconning of reality that's happened recently was Kamala Harris was in very publicly for a long time.The was in a bunch of articles, and they have recently gone back and said she was never Border Czar and mainstream newspaper articles are being edited to remove the fact that she was ever Border Czar. Borders are nice. Another crazy one which I sent Simone and I'll put on screen here is MSNBC conflated two different instances.And it will be very clear to you when you're watching the clip because Harris never served overseas and Kamala Harris never served as a medic. So why is Joe Rogan? praising Kamala Harris for those things, because he wasn't. He was praising Tulsi Gabbard. They reframed a clip of Joe Rogan to make it look like he was praising Kamala Harris and a [00:09:00] mainstream news organization was putting this out there.She's gonna win.No, she's not. She can win. She is a strong woman. She is a person who served overseas twice. She in a medical unit. She was a congresswoman for eight years. Yeah. She is a person of color. She's everything you want. She's going to win. No, she's not. She can win. They just want no Trump, no matter what. By the way, Tulsi Gabbard once called Titan cute in a Mar a Lago bathroom. Oh, she did? Yeah, she did. You met her? Oh, that's sweet! So, little Titan gets the cute from Tulsi Gabbard. This is for people who weren't, this is when we were at the Log Cabin Republicans, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay. I went to their, like, yearly gala or whatever, so of course we see Tulsi Gabbard there, such a classy lady.That was really fun. But anyway so, gotta get, gotta get back to this how, how bad this, thisWhen you're like in the US, okay, you're like, well, [00:10:00] we wouldn't do this in the US, except here's a problem. I'm going to play a clip here of Kamala Harris saying she liked the Brazil decision.He has, he has lost his privileges and it should be taken down and, and the bottom line is that you can't say that you have one rule for Facebook and you have a different rule for Twitter. The same rule has to apply, which is that there has to be a, a, a responsibility that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power.They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of, of, of oversight or regulation and that has to stop.Oh dear. Oh wait, why would, well, okay, wait, hold on. I'm trying to think through why she would do that. I think liberals hate X.So if she said, yeah, I think No, I'll explain her logic because you are misguessing what her logic is and it will make perfect sense to you. Okay. What she says is Well, if the government's applying those rules to one platform, all platforms have to follow them [00:11:00] equally. In this case, she was specifically saying, if we're applying these rules to Facebook, X has to follow them as well.And this is where this gets scary. Because At around the same time as all this is happening, Mark Zuckerberg releases that he was forced to ban people for sharing true information if it went against the Democratic Party platform when the Democrats controlled the White House. So, let's get into this. And he now says he regretted it.I think I think Zuck is gonna do a come around. I think he's gonna be on the side of people like Elon soon. Wow. You wait, you wait. He's, yeah. No, he has his whole new era going on with the little, the fro and the chain. He's, he's doing something different. Oh, no. Maybe, I think he's gonna, I, I, no, I genuinely think what happened to Zuck is he just got picked on too much.He tried to play their game. He tried to give free internet to India. He tried to, whenever he would do something that he [00:12:00] thought was this big magnanimous. thing to appeal to woke people, they were just like, bam, bam, bam, slam him in the ground.You are all of you beneath me. And I will not be bullied byI think just finally he's like, wait, you guys aren't my friend.Yeah, this is a moment. Maybe, maybe he's having this moment. We'll see. Yeah. He does seem a lot less uptight now. He just seems comfortable and happy. So maybe he's gone conservative, who knows? No, I gotta do the the, the, the scene here from Madagascar, which I always think about when I think about the conservative party now.Whenever these people are like, but I just, I just couldn't join the conservatives. It'd be so gauche. I mean, I, I do think the liberals have become monstrous these days. But it would be so, and, and it's just like, when they're like, just come to our side of the island. It's the fun side of the island. And, and yes, we may still be drinking sand and stuff like that, but at least [00:13:00] it's a party, man.May not be perfect, but at least we're trying. To the decent human beings over here. Melvin and Gloria are over there having a good time. There's room on the fun side for one more. No thanks. Look, I've been thinking. Maybe if you gave this place a chance, I don't know, you might even enjoy yourself. Could you just give it a chance? Think aboutit's him. Who is it? It's the pizza man. Who the heck do you think it is? Yes? Can I help you? Can I come to the fun side?Beg your pardon? You know, I've been kind of a jerk, Morty. I'm sorry. [00:14:00] Welcome to Casa Del Wild. Take a load off. Mi casa es su casa.Very impressive. Hey, have a drink. It's on the house. This is seawater. Oh, you don't swallow it. Check this out. Wow, wouldyou look at that. It's like billions and billions of helicopters.Let's talk about some of these stories here because there were a few instances of this that have been really well recorded at this point. So the Hunter Biden laptop story, it is now known that this story was 100 percent accurate.It was during an election and it had a chance. To affect an election, New York Post posted an article about it,, and the FBI used their power to have this article removed from the Facebook platform. And for those who are not in [00:15:00] the US, because about half of our audience isn't basically the son of one of the two presidential candidates Had left a laptop with a lot of damning information about him, including drug use and all these other bad things at a laptop repair shop and just forgot to pick it up, I guess, and that got leaked.But then when the New York Post covered it, it basically got censored by operatives of the Democratic Party which was the party representing that president whose son's laptop had been left behind and leaked. Yeah so, for those who maybe forget, because I feel people don't put various stories together in their mind to realize how completely infiltrated our government is right now, by this nefarious force which we're going to be talking about later in this episode, like how is all of this happening so blatantly, how is most of the world relating to this where there was the instance of the FBI agent, Peter Stoskoff an FBI lawyer, Lisa Page, in [00:16:00] 2016, Page expressed concern about Donald Trump potentially becoming president, and Stoskoff replied, No, no, he won't.We'll stop him. So this is what the FBI, we, who is we, we, the FBI will stop him. Who banned that story? The FBI. Okay. There was a sentiment within the United States intelligence services that Donald Trump could not be allowed to win an election cycle. And I think that the mistake they made in that first election is they basically just said, okay, no way he's going to win, blah, blah, blah.Now they're like, Oh, we've just, we'll make sure that he can't win. And I think that that's largely what happened in the last cycle as well. Yeah. Well, what's disappointing to me is we heard exactly the same statements. The first time that Donald Trump ran for president in 2016, we even heard that from operatives within the Republican party of don't worry, we won't let him win.We have a special, obviously connections in both the Democrat and the Republican party. And one of the high level operatives in the Republican party told [00:17:00] us that they had a system to prevent Donald Trump from winning the primary.\. You were talking about how, yeah, we saw, we saw people saying that Trump couldn't win. And I thought that that gave us, it gave us a lot of hope in 2016 that despite the fact that all these forces thought that they ran things and thought they could control how outcomes were that, you know, Trump ultimately broke the ultimate glass ceiling, you know, that weirdos and outsiders could break into Washington, at least to a certain extent, it kind of felt a little bit like.You know, he, he ventured into Russia and kind of got froze out and maybe that's what's going on here. You know, he just went too far. He was able to get in, he was able to cross the borders, but their slash and burn was just too much for him. And then, you know, he's, he can't get back in. No, what I'm going to argue at the end of this is I believe the left is right now structurally transitioning our government into a fascist like state where elections aren't legitimate anymore and whatever.All right. What? How far are we going here? Where the media just lies blatantly and regularly without recourse, [00:18:00] where the elections aren't legitimate, where any dissenting viewpoint is banned. This is scary. Cause we do, we have both fans and also personal, like family friends who grew up in Soviet Russia, who write to us now and say things like, right now it feels.Feels like that! Feels like that! I'm gonna go over some other instances here that are very interesting. So the COVID 19 censorship scandal apparently he also was not super cool with that. And this was from Zuckerberg. If people remember, there was a period where you couldn't say COVID on YouTube.You couldn't say COVID on Facebook. YouTubers are still scared about saying it. I don't, you know, you might even censor yourself here. You say it, it could get you insta banned from like any platform. And it was one of the most fascist things, like in my lifetime. Anybody who lived through that and wasn't like, Wow, our society's in crisis right now.Like, there's empty streets and I'm not allowed to say the word [00:19:00] on social media. Like, on our primary mechanism of communication. They just thought we really liked Harry Potter, so it was the virus which shall not be named. You know, they wanted us to live the fantasy. But it wasn't like you didn't name it because of how bad it was.You didn't name it because everyone was terrified of the government coming and knocking on the door. I know, I know. I'm kidding. But no, but I mean, it's a different kind of thing. It was very fascistic in almost the purest form possible. IE societal crisis. Like it's like, there's some war and we're all supposed to pretend the war isn't happening.We all use some other name for the war. Very similar to how Russia right now is like, they don't, they can't say the Ukraine war. They have to say like the Conflict or the Oh, they do. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one you, you'd be banned from their social media platform. So yeah, it's, it's, it's very.severely fascist, but what's interesting is it's even worse than all of this. So if you want to understand how bad things have gotten if you go into what's happening [00:20:00] in Brazil right now, okay, so as, okay, so for people who don't, Somehow don't know this. Elon owns X slash Twitter, but he also owns a company called Starlinker.He's what, he doesn't like really own Bose. He is a primary shareholder in Bose, right? Or a heavy shareholder in Bose. So what the Brazilian government has done is it has decided to start fining and collecting fines from X, not from X, from Starlink. to pay X's fines which has made it possible. Now for people who don't know how companies work, he doesn't like literally own both of these.He's got, there's no legal basis. You, there's no, there's no grounds on which Government can go after one entity because of one investor that the entity has. Yeah, there just doesn't seem to be any sort of legal basis. That's insane, but it's worse than just being insane. So I think it was something.So just so people know how big both of these platforms [00:21:00] are within Brazil, 40 million Brazilians, roughly one fifth of Brazil's population is checking X at least once a month. And as for Starlink what was it? I'm trying to find the number that they shut down. I believe it was something like 300, 000., but it was big. Okay. And a lot of these, because remember the Amazon is in Brazil, are schools. That are using this to teach children who live in rural areas of Brazil, because Brazil has the Amazon, where Starlink is critical to daily life and education. And they are shutting this down, the government is shutting this down.In order to prevent their citizens from being, seeing mainstream right leaning political figures talk. Haha.Okay, that, that's crazy. I, I was, everything else that you said was unsurprising and plausible. [00:22:00] Given just the world we live in now, which is insane. It is clown world. I will give you that, but this is the next step we are leveling up. We are leveling up. Yeah. So the point is, is when you look at like, what is the world we're actually living in now, like is the world where at tech companies.You know, what is it like 98 percent at some of the major firms of the Fang companies, Facebook, Amazon, Google, et cetera are going to democratic politicians. We are in a world where people do not feel they can dissent anymore, where people know that what's being said is a lie. Like, for example, that in MSNBC did just like lie to people about what somebody else had said.It. And then we're supposed to believe it or, or you just hear these constant lies that Democrats will say with such authority to them as if they're just 100 percent true. Like the one I always love because we have insider information on this is the Don't Say Gay Bill, which they were [00:23:00] like, this will prevent gay people from teaching in Florida.This will prevent gay people from talking about their sexuality to their students or mentioning that they're gay to their students or mentioning who their partners are to their students. No, we know the person who crafted the bill. Before it left the Republican committee, it was edited to make sure it could never be interpreted that way.And it never has been interpreted that way. So, but yet this is just like some mainstream interpretation that people would just go out there and tell you, like, as if it's a hundred percent true. And I see this constantly, they'll be like, Oh you know, Like, I love that Trump is a racist one, right?Like, well, they'll just say this and I'm like, excuse me. Trump was a shock jock for some 15 years. Okay. Through many different political climates, regularly appearing on shows like the Howard Stern show. Okay. Where you would be. praised for saying controversial things, and he is somebody who seems to lack a basic level of self control.Do you believe that if he regularly had racist thoughts, [00:24:00] we would not have a single one concretely on record? Seriously, that's a great point. Yeah, I think that's why so many people really like him, by the way, is that You know, if he has a thought, he will share it. There's no, I love, I'm like, I love it when I really press lefties up against a wall on this.I'm like, either you think Trump is a man of enormous self discipline and self control, or you recognize that he is definitely not a racist. Get to choose one of these two options. Both of them can't be true. Yeah, he's a lot of things, but he's not a racist. And, but these narratives just get out there and then they're like, this is true and even fairly smart people.We haven't aired this video with Tracy Woodgrain, but Tracy Woodgrain is a fairly smart guy. And he's like, well, I can't vote for Republicans because I'm gay. And like Republicans would be, I'm like, bro, you live in Manhattan. Okay. There is no gay Republican you can vote for there. Okay, what are you talking about?And it's worse than [00:25:00] that. In the mainstream Republican RNC platform now, it doesn't even say that marriage is between a man and a woman anymore. The, the, the world has changed into what the two parties represent. One is a party that is about dictatorial control, and the other is a party about trying to reinvent the system.With, with small sub factions that really want dictatorial control, it might have ruined everything. She, she, by the way, is speaking at some individuals at like the Heritage Foundation and stuff like that. Is that what you're talking about? Project 2024 is not going to go for Trump. 2025. Yeah. Except that the project 2025 served up one of the best pieces of material for Democrats for this election that they could have dreamed of.Yeah. It makes the Republican party. Look unhinged and it theocratic and completely again, we, we, and I think that this is, this is on our generation [00:26:00] of right leaning influencers. The party must be purged of the old guard. These, they, they either need to know that these types of Umbridge, like we say that the Democrats are the party of Professor Umbridge, like they want to go around censoring everything.Become a Democrat. Like that's your party now. Yeah. You want to go around giving, you know, government handouts to everyone. Go become a Democrat. Yeah. Right now I'm speaking specifically of what's his name again? Lyman stone, Lyman stone and the family Institute guy. A lot of these people are just like legacy Republicans.I guess I call them in the same way. You have these like legacy Democrats where they don't represent the mainstream democratic party. All anymore. They don't represent the base at all anymore, but they believe that the democratic party is what it is in the nineties. And they get mad when people are like, this is not what they represent anymore.Another great example of one of those stories where we're all just supposed to pretend like it doesn't happen. And yet everybody knows it does happen. And it provably happens is [00:27:00] illegal immigrants. Don't meaningfully vote in election cycles in a way that could sway major elections. And yet recently, for example, in Texas 6,500 plus. Illegal aliens were caught, registering to vote. With nearly 2000 caught voting. And it's worse than that. Because those 2000 were caught having registered in the past and having voted in previous election cycles. And that this catch only happened because of a recent house bill. , 1243 in Texas. So we know for a fact that not only have illegals been voting in election cycles, but they have been swinging past elections. And this is provable at this point.And when we talk about the double thing, the double thing that you really got me with this morning, that was like so messed up with Tim Waltz being the mind your own damn business guy, which is like, so 1984, when this is a guy who implemented the [00:28:00] COVID snitch line in his state, where You could be arrested because, well, it was encouraged for you to call on your neighbors if they left their houses during COVID.It could be arrested. This is the guy who made his state a sanctuary state for underage children with no bottom minimum age who wanted to become emancipated from their parents and transition. And we'll do another episode where we go further on, like, how crazy that is and all the deaths that have come from this nonsense.But Yeah, I guess he's telling, basically, conservative families to mind your own damn business while the state takes their children away. Yeah, it's basically, basically when he says, mind your own damn business, it should be like a little political cartoon. Yeah, like him grabbing the kids, mind your own damn business.Picking kids from a family, there's the families like crying, like, mind your own damn business. Basically though, I mean, I, I, I mean, no, it is, it is absolutely horrifying how far this has [00:29:00] gone and how much the parties have come aligned around an authoritarian axis and anti authoritarian access. And the, the media, and this is another thing that the media has entered this state now, where I heard this person saying this in a modern way, so I was like Also, just before you go forward, keep in mind also the, the CEO of, or the founder of Telegram, You know, also got arrested in France.Oh, yeah, you're right. So what's, what's scary about this and something we should also be discussing is, is Explain why he got arrested so people know. He was arrested sort of on the grounds that Telegram was facilitating everything Well, yeah, but like they put it in the terms of sex trafficking and drugs and, you know, illegal stuff that because basically he didn't release information about users because Telegram is not fully encrypted.That, you know, he, he's facilitating it and what, what's showing up here and what makes these incremental changes [00:30:00] uniquely worrying is that in the past, our conclusion has been, okay, don't worry about it. You can find your own people on social media, on platforms to follow, who will give you insights that you can trust.And you're just going to have to established we call techno feudalism, where there's sort of trusted clusters of networks of people where you can trust them to know their domain. You all kind of follow each other. There's like this sort of network or community that's created of people with knowledge that, that is shared.But now it appears to be that governments have decided to meddle with. The feudal lords of the techno feudalistic world and to take away their land, essentially to take away the platforms that they have used to communicate with people. Well, I mean, it's important to understand, like, what is this group that's doing this?It is a cult, like we have talked about this in other episodes, but you should think of it not as a political faction, but as a cohesive cultural group that is a what is the word that they use for cults? Like high [00:31:00] impact, high demand, high demand religion. You constantly need to signal things that aren't true to not be attacked by it.And when the media puts out there, when MSNBC puts out there something like that, that like is verifiably and easily verifiably not true, what they are telling you and what people like the reason why you have so many people in like these big fan companies donating to the Democrats is Do this. Think this.everything. Very similar to like an inquisition, historically speaking, but more aggressive than any inquisition or witch hunt that was ever done by the church. Where they are going through. And what they essentially do to make sure that you are a mindless brainwashed slave creature to maintain your high level of position and keep in mind like in COVID the lady who was next in line to run Levi's was fired for saying we need to stop shutting down minority school districts.This probably isn't doing any good. And now we know she was [00:32:00] right. She wasn't rehired, was she? So what they do is they do these insane things that are at odds with everything they've ever said they valued. Like, condemn minority students to a life of poverty by shutting down their only access to education to keep up this ridiculous charade of we have everything handled with COVID.So they, they, they get in your face. And they say, like, will you lie about this? Like, they repeat a lie to you that's obviously a lie, and then they see if you repeat it. And if you don't repeat it, you lose everything. And that's where society has entered right now. And if you ever had any inclination, like, if you were ever the type of person where you're like, yeah, when the Nazis were taking over, you know, before they started genociding people, I would have stood up to them, okay?Like, this is your chance to show that, yeah, you actually would have stood up to this. Because this group does sort humans [00:33:00] based on their ethnicity, okay? They do have an ethno hierarchy. We even know this during COVID, where vaccines were being distributed by the CDC in part based on ethnicity. Based on how marginalized a group was historically.It may not have been the CDC. I think it might've been up to local municipalities, but they implemented those policies. Well, no, the CDC created a policy plan that said you should do that. And then the plan implemented by local municipalities. So people are able to say that nobody exactly forced anyone to do this, but it did happen.And. This is horrifying and I, I, I like really encourage people to wake up to how deep down the fascist rabbit hole we already are. Simone, you recently had a realization where you came to me and you were like, I didn't realize how socialist America was. I'm actually looking at the numbers and we're not, Like a socialist country.We are a not just [00:34:00] socialist country, but very socialist country. Yeah, that was, that was from lemon month where my subject of the month, this is a, an internal holiday that we have as techno Puritans where the month of May is dedicated to researching some, a subject that we find to be offensive and then sharing it with the family.And I. I decided that communism was going to be my offensive subject because I'm, I was fairly ignorant to it. I mean, I now feel even more ignorant now that I've learned more. Right. But like, I decided to study it and that's how I realized, oh, we're, we're a pretty socialist state. Like on, on this, on the spectrum of pure capitalism to communism where no one is, no one is a communism.We are. actually quite socialist. We're quite close to communism. We're closer to communism than capitalism. When I, you know, even, and separately from, from my lemon month research. I realized that our effective tax rate between state tax and, and federal taxes, also [00:35:00] closer to what I thought Europeans paid, you know, I used to think like, what is it like 70?No, no, no. It's, it's 38%, but that's still a lot. You know, I felt like a Europeans, maybe like half of their money went to tax and they have, you know, socialized medicine and everything else. And like public transit that actually works, all sorts of things like that. And yeah. So I thought we paid less. The next problem that we have here is, so sorry, the, the, the point I was making is, is when you're like, Oh, this is actually kind of like leaning towards a communist state at this point.If we have fascism on one side and a functional democracy on the other side, we are now past the halfway mark to living in a fascist country. That is what we have here. Pretty much every major media platform is colluding to lie to you, and there are no repercussions for this. And in addition to that, one of the mainstream political presidential candidates is [00:36:00] saying they want to implement this more in the United States, right after it was leaked that they had forced major media platforms to ban true stories.And then after that, the person who is telling you all this was selected for her position by party elites without having to hold a primary. Well, and here's what adds insult to injury. One, most fascist governments seem to end up with really fantastic uniforms. I'm not seeing any here. Where's the fashion?Two, usually fascist governments get stuff done. You know, at least you could say that about, you know, China, say what you will, but the CCP can get stuff done. You know, just say like, sorry, this is how it's going to be new policy, but I'm not seeing that here. Oh, sorry, sweetheart. You thought we were moving China?No, we're moving Argentina fascists. So, if you look at the way that you're like, oh, we don't have good infrastructure here. How is that possible given where we are?Great video on [00:37:00] this recently. It's called the million dollar bathroom bathroom that San Francisco was spending money on. And it was about why infrastructure costs are so expensive in the United States. And to give you an idea, God, what was the example they use? It was just shocking. It was something like a one subway in.One major U. S. city cost as much as a subway between two major European cities. Like two state capitals or something. Like country capitals, I mean. Like, huge difference. And the answer is, is that in Europe, they are able to hire construction teams from different countries. Oh, within the EU. Yeah, it was in the U and in the United States, they're not in the United States.You have to hire everything locally to these giant unions and they're all being contracted by these local politicians. If I was put in the Trump white house, one of the first things I would do is focus on creating a federal ban against of hirings. Cause it would be very easy [00:38:00] to end this, but right now, because almost nobody votes in these small local elections, they're able to just own them and pump, pump, pump.It costs, I think on a per dollar basis. 8X what it does in Europe to build something in the United States. And it is because of this Argentinian style corruption that the Democrats are complicit in and exacerbating. And that's what you see happening with Kamala Harris right now. Is a, a, a move towards an Argentinian style government in the United States without really free elections anymore.And with extreme amounts of government cronyism. That's a really interesting point. I hadn't thought and actually, I'm just encountering that with the business we run today and that I'm, I'm making a proposal to do business with a New Jersey based entity, but we're a Delaware based LLC that operates in Pennsylvania and I had to pay.Almost 200 to register to do business in the state of New Jersey. And just put my entire afternoon, like going through [00:39:00] the various, like paperwork and nonsense just to register. And it's, it's, it's a state, like we're in the same country. Why do I have to write next door to us too? Like our employees live there.Like the amount of paperwork was, was really crazy. And I wonder if it would have been easier if I was in the EU working in cross countries. Maybe. Hmm. But the point being is that the United States is increasingly becoming captured by these types of players in a way that is going to prevent our government from functioning and the collapse will be significantly faster if Kamala wins.Like, I am actually getting, when I look at her VP pick, when I look at the authoritarian history she has, so we've done a video on this, but for people who don't know, like, just how authoritarian her mindset is. Two instances, which often get conflated by Republicans, but really need to be delineated as two separate incidences.One is in one incident, she was running for I forget what office. But it [00:40:00] was found that there was a leak in her Her crime lab, and she was supposed to notify a bunch of inmates that their cases could be overturned. And she refused to do it until after the election was over. So she did admit there was a mistake.She just wanted to wait until the election was over so she could, could secure the police commission. What was it like? I can't remember their, their recommendations so that she could win their endorsement. Yeah. So she kept people in prison. Most of them were black people in prison so that she could win an election and for no other reason.In a separate incident, the Supreme court said that her prison system had become a human rights violation and that she had to release people. And her response to this was I need them for my fire brigades. I'm sorry. I need them for work. Like I'm using them as a free labor source. Yeah. The problem is, is that if she had freed them and hired them, it would be less expensive.But her entire worldview, top to bottom, is authoritarian. It doesn't matter that it's less expensive for her not to own these slaves. Because what [00:41:00] are they other than human slaves if they're being demanded to be released from prison? And she's like, I need my forced labor force. Doesn't matter that it's more economically efficient.It would disrupt her way of life as a plantation owner. I mean, what else is she at this point? Right? Like. It also shows how she will hide things from constituent groups in order to win an election and then do things that disappoint them. Because obviously if she eventually. Released this leak in the crime lab that disappointed the police force that endorsed her then they'd be pissed she she didn't do right by them.But yeah, I mean, no, no, it's okay She got off a few police officers who shot people under very questionable circumstances Good for her, I guess. Tim Walz actually did the same thing. That was one of his major controversies as well. Mm hmm. It's very interesting how pro cop Tim and Kamala are. I mean, obviously I don't know how pro cop they are.I mean, Tim Walz's wife famously opened her window during Black Lives Matter riots so that she could smell the smoke from [00:42:00] the burning buildings. So, I don't know how That is horrible. Horrifying. Those are people's business. I know. I know. That's, that's why Republicans love to make that point about her.Supposed to be protecting those people. But I mean, this is what I talk about when I say it's a cult that has taken over our country. You should see nothing other than living in a medieval. Theocratic state. Well, this is why people are preparing more and more to kind of go off the grid. And we're seeing this happen.We're seeing, for example, in the medical world, people shifting away from. Sort of having a primary care doctor through their insurance to getting direct primary care that they pay a subscription for just personally out of pocket because they don't trust what the medical establishment is giving them and, you know, all these people going for alternative health things and people getting into permaculture and homesteading, and I think a lot of people are just stuck.Intuitively starting to expect that they can no longer [00:43:00] depend on governments in the U. S. and outside the U. S. as well for their well being. And They're it's, it's good. I don't know. Part of me, it's, it's, I don't think it is explicit when they start banning these major platforms. When they make everybody realize that if you invest any money and you are successful at what you're doing, they will ban you don't worry.There's a bit, you can always turn to her, but when anyone can figure out what the f**k it is. And by the way, a fun video to do is why didn't the Twitter alternatives work? Do you remember like when everybody was sky and masked it on? Yeah. What they realize, and I think that this is the truth of why they didn't work, to give the thesis away.Is the value of Twitter to the left? Was that they could force people to listen to their insane takes. And as soon as they entered cloistered platforms like Mastodon or platforms, or it's just other lefties, they could no longer Lord the power that the way Twitter was hierarchically arranged artificially gave them to [00:44:00] force their belief systems on other people.And, and then when they realize that they're like, Oh, I should just go back into traditional media. And of course, traditional media Humming because it's all falling apart. The thing that gets me about all this is naturally because everybody now knows the media lies, they go to channels like ours, right?Because everyone knows that, oh, you know, this source is bad. This source is bad. They're going to independent sources. And so I think a lot of people on the right had this perception of. Well, eventually everyone's just going to wake up and move to the free press, right? But Both the Berrywise publication and just generally independent knowledge people, right?Yeah. Okay. Simultaneously, we are now seeing the left realize, Oh, everyone's leaving these other platforms, we need to ban them from doing anything else. Yeah. Listen, it's a good thing. I would say it's a good thing that people are being shaken awake to the fact that platforms are going to be censored, they will [00:45:00] come and go, you know, Telegram CEO is going to be arrested, X is going to be banned in various countries, and people need to be very fluid in the way that they move from platform to platform, and that's why we're moving to techno feudalism.Where it isn't a platform specific thing. I mean, as much as it will be undermined by people taking away platforms, like I said, you know, with orbit and other alternatives, there are ways for distributed networks of people to communicate and work together. I strongly disagree with you. Really? Strongly disagree with you.Yeah. I think we need big, big companies to facilitate our communication. Yes, you do. It's something called a natural monopoly. We studied it in business school. They are incredibly difficult to compete with or disrupt. So natural monopolies happen whenever you have, Two sided marketplaces, especially of the independent actors, like a communications platform or a search engine or a there's a bunch of different instances in which they happen and they always end up with 89 percent of people [00:46:00] using it on one platform.Like the number always ends there and then the next platform. We'll have like 8 percent and then the next platform will have like, it's like a logarithmically smaller number. Yeah, but you're, you're assuming the continuation of a globalized communication world. And maybe it will be. No, no. What I'm saying is there is no communication world.If the global communication world shuts down. Not really. We'll go back to what things used to be, which was social networks. No, that's not the way things used to be. What it used to be is that the, you had a news media organizations and people would turn on their television and they buy their newspaper.No Malcolm. I'm thinking back to the Victorian era and before I'm thinking back to even before the era of magazines, I'm thinking about how people communicated back then. Okay. Okay. So what you're saying is people are safe communicating within one off social, small social networks. You mean on a platform like signal.That's exactly the type of thing they're targeting in less than the [00:47:00] point. That's why I keep talking about orbit. The point of some alternative platforms is that they are distributed and not run that there's a few janky distributed platforms out there. No one is using them. Well, they'll have to in the future.No, but the point I'm making is no one is using them. And the moment they become a credible threat to the people in positions of power right now, they will be shut down or criminalized in the same way that joining Twitter with a VPN is criminalized. Yeah. And yet having a radio that you were listening to, you know, the BBC in Nazi occupied France was also criminalized in France at the time.And people still totally. you know, boarded up their windows and listen to their radio. The French resistance didn't free France. Yeah. So Simone, this isn't a good argument. I'm just, if they're like, like people in occupied France, no, you fight [00:48:00] back, but I'm not saying it's ideal. I'm saying it's, what's going to have to happen.No, it doesn't have to happen. Okay. Well then what are you going to do? Go to Mars? No, what you do is you do everything you can to make sure that we get a Trump administration. Then we do everything to can, we can to make sure people like us are working in that administration so we can build systems that systematically dismantle their ability to ever enforce something like this again.It can be done. It just requires one sweep of the White House. But the number one thing that can not happen is a Kamala Harris victory. I'm, I'm pretty sure that's what we're going to have. So, You know, everyone gets to go back and look at this and see who is right. Was Simone right? And did Kamala Harris win?That, no, no, no. Hold on, you're saying, I'm saying to maintain our freedom. Yeah, you're saying Trump has to win for a few, yeah, but I'm just saying, I'm not saying he is going to win. I'm saying for our freedom. You are making the claim that we can maintain our freedom. Some semblance of freedom, even [00:49:00] if the cult continues to consume some of the data.No, I'm doing what we have to, I'm saying what we have to do, which is that come Black Friday, we buy our AR 15s, we buy our ammo, I already have our water filtration system, you know, we're gonna, You know, I'm going to cave to our, our smarter than me fans. And we'll just start milling our own grain. You know, you know what we have to have, but we need to have like a fan in the discord, like a fan meetup map for when things hit the fan for the network, the underground railroad, where people can like stop on their way to freedom.Yes. But it has to be like, I don't know. I, I, I'm not familiar with geocaching, but obviously it has to be more treasure mapping. And the good thing about us is we have a big enough public profile that if we were ever banned, even off of all platforms, people would immediately one know that it had happened because we do daily episodes.And two, we would find somewhere to be able to tag where our new primary location was. We now do Rumble as well on most days but I really don't like the [00:50:00] platform, and I don't think that it's particularly safer than YouTube if it becomes successful, so it's not relevant. We're supposed to be posting on X, but it's very hard to post videos to X.You can't do title cards, so you need to re upload them, and I've been meaning to have you posted any of them? I, I posted, I posted one. It's just X's, it doesn't seem like it's a place for long form comment. I know pe content. I know people post whole documentaries there and I've watched whole documentaries there, but it just isn't a great format for it.X Twitter was always for short form content. But I know we should, I'll get to it. It's transforming as a platform into the only free platform left. Yeah, I'll get to it. I'm sorry, guys, this is my fault. No, no, it's my fault. As our son Octavian says, please life and describe, which means please like and describe.And if you could leave a five star review on iTunes, it would mean a lot to us. You know we're at 50 now? 50 five star reviews. Yeah. Oh my gosh. If you're one of the 50 people who did that, [00:51:00] thank you. Not five star but 50 reviews. Well, all right. F**k you. If you made a three star or two star or one star review for us.Four stars. I mean, why did you bother? Five stars. Thank you. Why did you bother? I love it. So when we released our book. First book. The first review we got was from your dad. And it was a four star review. You're my daughter. I don't want to be biased. Thanks dad. All right. Love you to death Simone. I love you too, gorgeous.Okay. Which one's the next one? Good, all right, good, thanks. Lost two episodes due to bad recording quality. I don't know if we're going to redo them or what. God, I'm sorry.Hey, I will jump right into this cause this is absolutely crazy that any of this is happening. I'm excited. Let's do it. Get full access to Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm at basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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