

Difference Talks
Barry LaBov
The LABOV Difference Talks podcast is all about differentiation and celebrating what makes brands unique. In each episode, we meet people who’ve dared to stand up and stand out, sometimes against great odds. We share the stories of how they have differentiated themselves, their enterprises, or their brands, and given meaning to those around them. This podcast is a journey into what it takes to win hearts, minds, and market share. In a world of copies, conformity, and commodities, uniqueness speaks volumes... Difference Talks.
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Sep 9, 2025 • 32min
Exploring the Transformation Economy with Joe Pine
Send us a textIn this episode, we talk with Joe Pine, a renowned author and speaker, about the evolution of the experience economy into the transformation economy. Discover how companies can differentiate themselves by creating memorable and transformative experiences for their customers. Takeaways: There’s a shift from the experience economy to the transformation economy, where the focus is on helping customers achieve their aspirations and personal growth. Customization is a crucial strategy for companies to differentiate themselves and create memorable experiences that resonate with individual customers. There’s value in creating experiences that are "time well-spent" for customers, as opposed to merely offering convenience or efficiency. About Joe Pine: Joe Pine is an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and management advisor. He is co-author of The Experience Economy and helps businesses design experience that create economic value, foster customer loyalty, and drive growth. Joe is the co-founder of Strategic Horizons LLP. Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Joe Pine. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts! Where to find more: https://strategichorizons.com/pine-and-gilmore/

Aug 26, 2025 • 34min
The Key to Customer-Centric Success with Laura Patterson
Send us a textIn this episode, we sit down with Laura Patterson, entrepreneur, speaker, author, and founder of VisionEdge Marketing, to explore the art of differentiation and customer-centric strategies. We discuss how technology levels the playing field and why understanding customer needs is crucial in today's competitive landscape. Laura shares insights from her book, “Fast-Track Your Business: A Customer-Centric Approach to Accelerate Market Growth,” emphasizing the importance of trust, keeping promises, and leveraging analytics for business growth. Tune in to learn how to create extraordinary customer experiences that foster loyalty and drive success. Takeaways:· In a competitive market, differentiation is achieved by delivering exceptional customer experiences.· Understanding and addressing customer needs is crucial for standing out.· Trust is essential in building long-term relationships with customers.· Analytics play a significant role in understanding customer behavior and making informed decisions.· Empowering employees to make customer-centric decisions can lead to increased loyalty and satisfaction.About Laura Patterson: Laura Patterson is an entrepreneur, speaker, author, and founder of VisionEdge Marketing. She is a globally recognized expert in customer-centric growth and marketing performance management. Laura has worked with over 300 companies to embed customer-centric thinking throughout their business. She is the author of multiple books, including the award-winning “Fast-Track Your Business: A Customer-Centric Approach to Accelerate Market Growth.” Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Laura Patterson. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: https://visionedgemarketing.com/laura-patterson-company-management-bio/

Aug 12, 2025 • 34min
Differentiating Communities with Jason Freier
Send us a text In this episode, we step inside the world of minor league baseball with Jason Freier, Chairman and CEO of Hardball Capital. We discuss how modern ballparks are transforming communities, why the fan experience now matters more than the final score, and the creative ways teams are drawing crowds year-round. This episode of Difference Talks reveals the business, heart, and innovation behind America’s favorite pastime. Takeaways: Community engagement and reinvestment are crucial. The future of minor league baseball faces new challenges and opportunities as private equity firms enter the space. Minor league baseball has evolved from basic stadiums and hardcore fans to vibrant, year-round community hubs that offer much more than just games. Investing in modern ballparks can revitalize entire downtowns, attracting new businesses, residents, and development. About Jason Freier: Jason Freier is the Chairman and CEO of Hardball Capital, a sports-related investment company whose assets include affiliated Minor League Baseball franchises. His company has built the Fort Wayne TinCaps into one of the premier teams in Minor League Baseball and drastically improved the operations and fan experience with the Chattanooga Lookouts, Savannah Sand Gnats and the Salem Avalanche. Hardball has built new ballparks that have catalyzed hundreds of millions in development in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and Columbia, South Carolina. Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Jason Freier. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts! Where to find more: https://www.hardballcapital.com/about/leadership-team

Jul 29, 2025 • 36min
Unlocking Potential with Sal Syed
Send us a textIn this episode, we speak with Sal Syed, CEO and Co-Founder of Arccos Golf. We dive into the world of golf technology and innovation, including how his company is revolutionizing the game with AI-driven insights and data analytics. This episode is packed with inspiring stories and groundbreaking ideas, including Sal’s journey from Pakistan to Yale and his creation of Arccos Golf. Key Topics: Sal Syed's background and journey to founding Arccos Golf The role of AI and data in enhancing golf performance Overcoming challenges and rallying a team in the startup world The importance of psychographics in understanding golfers Future innovations in golf technology Takeaways: About Sal Syed: Sal Syed is the CEO and Co-Founder of Arccos Golf. He is a recognized top innovator in the golf industry, a scratch golfer, a club champion and has notched six holes-in-one. Sal holds an MBA from Yale where he was a Fellow at the Yale Entrepreneurial Institute. He has been a featured speaker at Yale University on Entrepreneurship and Leadership topics and belongs to the Young Presidents’ Organization (YPO). Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Sal Syed. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts! Where to find more: https://www.arccosgolf.com/pages/about-arccos?srsltid=AfmBOoqD8k4kKK4vHbap2EzoovLVzVNjckBDk4dkR9QtRzg7zDnICzn4

Jul 15, 2025 • 29min
Celebrating the Brand Experience with John Roussel
Send us a textIn this conversation, John Roussel, Chairman of the Board, Ferraro Foods, shares his experiences navigating the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic in the food service industry. He discusses the drastic shift from normal operations to a standstill, the pivot to grocery services, and the innovative solutions implemented to support employees and the community. Roussel emphasizes the resilience of his team and the importance of adapting to changing circumstances, ultimately leading to a successful year despite the odds. Key Takeaways: Businesses must differentiate by providing amazing products services, and value Food service faced a drastic halt during the pandemic. The company pivoted to grocery services to adapt. Team resilience led to innovative solutions. Maintaining employee support was a priority. About John Roussel: John Roussel is the Chairman of the Board, Ferraro Foods. He has led high-performance organizations across foodservice distribution, manufacturing, and consumer packaged goods. Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with John Roussel. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts! Where to find more: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnaroussel/

Jul 1, 2025 • 33min
Building a Culture of Care with Dan Starr
Send us a textIn this episode, we talk with Dan Starr, CEO of Do it Best, discussing the importance of company culture, leadership, and employee engagement. Dan shares his journey from law to business, the influence of past leaders, and how the company maintains its culture amidst growth and challenges. The conversation emphasizes the significance of transparency, servant leadership, and genuine care for employees as key components of successful leadership.Key Takeaways:The philosophy of serving others defines Do It Best's culture.Profit sharing is a critical aspect of employee investment.Maintaining culture during acquisitions is a significant challenge.Transparency in leadership fosters loyalty and trust among employees.Caring for employees' well-being is essential for effective leadership.Cultural alignment is crucial when hiring new leaders.Difficult decisions should be communicated with honesty and compassion.Celebrating team wins is a source of joy for leaders.Understanding individual employee circumstances can lead to better outcomes. About Dan Starr: Dan Starr is the CEO of Do it Best. He joined the company in 2005 as director of human resources and general counsel. Over his years of business leadership, Dan has served on many non-profit boards, including the Do it Best Foundation.Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Dan Starr. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: https://www.doitbestonline.com/about/leadership-team/dan-starr/

Jun 17, 2025 • 36min
Creating a Culture of Customer Loyalty with Ken Schmidt
Send us a textIn our conversation with Ken Schmidt, former director of communications at Harley-Davidson, we discuss the brand's struggles and turnaround. We explore the importance of community, quality, and human behavior in building brand loyalty and creating memorable customer experiences. Ken emphasizes that customers are loyal to the people behind the brand, not just the product, and shares insights on how businesses can differentiate themselves in a competitive market.Takeaways:· Management must recognize and address threats before they escalate into crises.· Customers are loyal to the people behind the brand, not just the product itself.· Creating memorable experiences is crucial for customer retention and loyalty.· Visible passion from employees attracts customers and fosters loyalty.· Businesses should focus on being known for who they are, not just what they do.· Businesses should prioritize customer feedback and experiences over mere data collection.About Ken Schmidt: Ken Schmidt is the former director of communications at Harley-Davidson, an author and keynote speaker. He is widely known and respected as one of the business world’s most outspoken, provocative, and entertaining thought leaders on competition, brand management, positioning, reputation management, human behavior, and loyalty.Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Ken Schmidt. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: https://kenspeaks.com/

Jun 3, 2025 • 33min
Thriving in Uncertainty with Rebecca Homkes
Send us a textIn this episode, we welcome Dr. Rebecca Homkes, high-growth strategy expert and bestselling author, to explore the concept of uncertainty in business, reframing it as an opportunity rather than a challenge. We discuss how leaders can navigate uncertainty by shifting from traditional planning to preparation, emphasizing the importance of learning organizations that adapt quickly. The role of technology and AI in supporting growth strategies is also highlighted, along with the critical need for differentiation in a competitive market. Ultimately, the discussion underscores that uncertainty can be a catalyst for growth if approached with the right mindset and strategies.Takeaways:Uncertainty is a neutral term that can offer opportunities.Preparation is more important than rigid planning.Learning organizations prioritize insights from the market over traditional teaching methods.AI should support and accelerate growth strategies, not replace them.Differentiation is key to thriving in chaotic environments.Organizations must focus on learning loops to improve growth.Leaders should not wait for market conditions to dictate growth. About Rebecca Homkes: Dr. Rebecca Homkes is a high-growth strategy specialist and the founder of a boutique consultancy firm, advising CEOs and executive teams focused on growth and success through uncertainty. She is also a faculty member at Duke Corporate Executive Education, lecturer at the London Business School (LBS) Executive Education, and an advisor and faculty member at BCGU (Boston Consulting Group). Dr. Homkes is the director of the Young President’s Organization (YPO) global Active Learning Program (ALP). Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Rebecca Homkes. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: https://www.rebeccahomkes.com/

May 20, 2025 • 35min
Transforming Your Customer Experience with Ron Baker
Send us a textIn this episode, we talk with Ron Baker on the concept of transformation in business, emphasizing the shift from traditional service models to a focus on guiding customers through personal transformations. We discuss the importance of differentiation, the evolution of the experience economy, and share real-world examples of companies successfully implementing transformation strategies. The conversation also touches on pricing strategies, the rise of concierge medicine, and innovative business models like Porsche’s subscription service. Takeaways:Companies must focus on the customer's desired future state to create value.The experience economy is evolving into the transformation economy.Pricing strategies should reflect the value perceived by customers, not just cost.The relationship between businesses and customers is becoming more personal and direct.Companies need to differentiate themselves by focusing on specific customer needs.About Rob Baker: Ron Baker is the author of seven bestselling books, founder of VeraSage Institute, a think tank dedicated to educating professionals internationally, a radio talk-show host on the VoiceAmerica show, The Soul of Enterprise: Business in the Knowledge Economy, and Chief Value Officer at Armanino LLP. Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Rob Baker. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: https://www.thesoulofenterprise.com/

May 6, 2025 • 33min
Risk and Reward with David Mandell
Send us a textDavid Mandell shares his journey from a traditional background in law to becoming a co-founder of the Whiskey House of Kentucky, the most technically advanced producer of custom bourbon and American whiskey in the U.S. He discusses the importance of building culture, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and the significance of mentorship and teamwork in achieving success. David introduces Whiskey House of Kentucky, highlighting its innovative approach to whiskey production, including the use of advanced technology and AI. Mandell reflects on the importance of learning from past experiences to build a strong company culture and the necessity of celebrating successes while navigating challenges in the entrepreneurial journey.Takeaways:· Building culture is essential for any business.· Success is often a process of elimination and exploration.· Celebrate victories with your team to maintain motivation.· Transparency with the team is essential during challenges.· Innovation is key to staying competitive in the market.· It's important to know your weaknesses and surround yourself with strengths.About David Mandell: David Mandell is the co-founder and CEO of Whiskey House of Kentucky, the most advanced whiskey distillery in the U.S. Prior to founding Whiskey House, Mandell was the co-founder and former president & CEO of The Bardstown Bourbon Company. David was also the founder, President & CEO of The p.i.n.k. Spirits Company, where he developed, created, and launched the first line of ultra-premium spirits infused with caffeine and guarana. Before entering the spirits market, David was the Chief of Staff to Administrator Marion C. Blakey of the Federal Aviation Administration in Washington, D.C.Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with David Mandell. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: www.linkedin.com/in/david-mandell-746a0245/