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Welcome to Real Talk, Whole Life—part candid phone call with your nerdy best friends, part myth-busting, and entirely unfiltered. Wellness without the woo. Womanhood without the guilt. Wisdom from the fine folks who survived dial-up and low-fat lies.Host Stacy Toth brings honest, heartfelt conversations about what it means to live fully—in your body, your brain, and your messy, magical life. From midlife mayhem and mental health to Botox alternatives and book recs, we’re covering it all—with a side of sarcasm and a whole lot of heart.No shame. No pseudoscience. Just the kind of conversations you actually want to hear when you call a friend—especially if “wellness” has never quite felt like it was made for you.Rooted in womanhood, open to anyone who’s ever been side-eyed in a yoga studio. Come for the hot takes, stay for the healing.Real Talk, Whole Life is hosted by Stacy Toth, bestselling diet culture author turned anti-diet health at any size educator. Her goal is to create a safe space for all to explore their own version of wellness without the elitist self-focused woo woo. Previously The Whole View and The Paleo View, this evolution of the podcast is a reflection of the growth we all go through exploring being middle aged. Expect a wide variety of guests on an even greater variety of topics, but always inclusive ways for non-toxic living (mental and physical).
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Nov 19, 2015 • 58min
Episode 170, Histamine Intolerances
Intro (0:00)
News and Views (0:56)
Happy birthday Sarah!
How Sarah is acting like an old lady these days, and why she is making a stand for not yet being in her 40's
In addition to recording The Paleo View, Sarah's birthday celebration also included a special WOD and a hot stone massage
Stacy's life happenings include Ronda Rousey and how the internet blew up, and Adele
This week's show will be about histamine intolerances and Sarah has a feeling that many people will be self diagnosing themselves by the end of this show, and wants to provide a friendly reminder to seek a health care provider if you think you may have an issue with histamine intolerances (in this case a functional specialist, a naturopathic doctor, or someone in the alternative healthcare field)
Histamine intolerance can look like a lot of things, and a lot of things can look like histamine intolerance; and there are a lot of potential causes of them
Remember that nothing Sarah or Stacy say on the show should be taken for medical or nutritional advice
Science with Sarah (13:32)
Histamine is a normal molecule produced by our body and people are very familiar with it based on its relation to allergies or our reactions to bug bites - it is one of the ways our immune system physically isolates a toxin and tries to get rid of it
It is also one of the things that happens with foods allergies, with anaphylactic shock producing a very large histamine response
Histamine has other important roles in the body - it is part of how cells communicate with their neighbors, and is a neurotransmitter that regulates a very large number of functions in the body
Histamine intolerances, how they are triggered and what is happening on a cellular level when triggered
The root of histamine intolerance is that the production of histamine is greater than our ability to handle it, and that production can come from a few different places and our inability to handle it can also come from a few different places - but basically it boils down to having too much histamine and the body not being able to handle it
The lengthy and broad list of histamine intolerance symptoms
How some foods have histamine, which is basically considered spoilage and is something that is tested for in high levels in the food industry
Seafood is a great example of a histamine containing food, but with a huge variation - more details on this
Fermented foods, alcoholic beverages, and deli meats can also all be high in histamines
Some fruit, soy products, coffee, chocolate, green tea, pork, and spinach can all have lower levels of histamine
Finding a health professional to help you diagnose any responses you may be having to these foods
Histamine intolerance seems to be highly related to a leaky gut
The treatment is a low histamine diet, partnered with working on gut health
Eventually you would slowly start increasing high histamine containing foods
Questions & Answers (30:02)
Christina - why are no two histamine lists the same? Would a rotational diet help to avoid more sensitivities?
The limited research that is available on these lists
What a rotation diet can do if you have a very leaky gut
The challenge with the strict rotation and what happens with time
Sarah recommends the rotation diet as a second tier effort, and recommend figuring out the rotation with a really good nutritional therapy practitioner or a functional medical specialist
This is a very situational strategy
Jen - why are dried fruits and veggies high in histamine even if homemade?
What happens during the drying process and how the nutrients become concentrated
Dose dependent reactions and determining how cutting out certain nutrient dense foods impact overall health versus the cons of triggering a small reaction
Just a reminder that Sarah has two epic giveaways that are about to close, enter them here and here
Happy Thanksgiving to our listeners! Stacy encourages everyone to find a family tradition and to enjoy family time together
Sarah's Thanksgiving plans
Stacy's love for Sarah's pumpkin pie recipe
Stacy will be sharing her epic 2015 Thanksgiving menu soon
And be sure to check out this holiday recovery podcast episode if you need help after Thanksgiving
Thank you for tuning in!
Outro (52:58)
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Nov 12, 2015 • 30min
Episode 169, Great News to Share
Intro (0:00)
News and Views (0:56)
Stacy's crazy few weeks trying to heal from her back injury and balance the demands of life
A spine specialist was unfortunately unable to identify the problem, so now Stacy needs to go on to receive an MRI
Matt and Stacy's oldest son, Cole, is now doing after school wrestling three evenings a week, and he is also doing so amazing in school, which has been a really big deal in the Paleo Parents household
Since having guests on The Paleo View the past few weeks, there have been a lot of big things happening in Stacy and Sarah lives and they have been light on the news on the show, but want to have a newsie episode to bring listeners up to date on their latest happenings
For more background on Cole's ADHD, check out episode 145 of The Paleo View
Because of how the school year ended for Cole last year, Stacy and Matt were a little nervous to see how things would go as this school year began (especially with an increase in stressors at school), and lately Cole has been coming home from school very happy and positive
Cole's student-teacher conference last week went so well, and was a huge milestone for the family to see the progress Cole has made - read more about that here
You can hear more about all the changes that they made with Cole to help him manage his ADHD, but the big changes were the removal of media/video games, getting more play/outside time and sunlight, and adding caffeine in the mornings
Stacy just wants to thank everyone for the wonderful engagement and support around this situation, it can be especially hard to share on situations when paleo isn't enough
On the Paleo Parents site there was also a great guest post that was shared on 10 Alternative Treatments for ADHD
Medication is not failure, there is a time and a place for conventional medicine
What happened this past March when Sarah began working on launching a paleo cooking show - Sarah did all the writing and producing for the pilot episodes and so her character and passion really shines through
In May they sent the pilot episodes to Food Network and the Cooking Channel - they received no response from the Cooking Channel, and they had a meeting with the Food Network, but the show was rejected because they can't have diet specific shows (i.e. no shows about restricted foods)
Now that things have calmed down a bit with The Healing Kitchen, Sarah's team has pulled together a package for the tv show and will be sending it to every network and streaming service, and they feel very confident that someone will pick it up - but they have to prove that there is a market for the show, which is why they released the pilot to the public
You can find the pilot of Paleo Bites in YouTube here, please watch it and share with others, leave comments and give it a like if you enjoyed watching it
There is also a massive giveaway to celebrate the release of the Paleo Bites pilot and to thank people for their support
Thank you to everyone, from both Stacy and Sarah, on all the positive feedback they are receiving on what is happening in their lives at the moment
We will be back again next week, and actually have two awesome topics mapped out for the weeks to come!
Thanks everyone for listening!
Outro (27:50)
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Nov 5, 2015 • 1h 16min
Episode 168, Navigating the Paleo Life Single
Intro (0:00)
News and Views (0:56)
Stacy is working on recovering from her back injury, but had an excellent Halloween weekend despite the frustrations from dealing with an injury
Sarah is exhausted - she has one of her rockstar team members in town (Claire) and they have been working on filming cooking videos to go with the meal plans in The Healing Kitchen
Weather happenings for Stacy and Sarah
Sarah has already started her Thanksgiving cooking
Claire offers great insight on how to prep paleo meals for 1
How Claire connected with Sarah and a bit on how she joined The Paleo Mom's team
Through a doctor recommendation, Claire adopted the paleo diet and 75% of her digestive issues went away
Claire's experience with learning how to cook, and self-experiemention to find the foods that make her feel great and what doesn't make her feel good
Being less concerned with whether a food is paleo or not, but instead finding a sustainable balance incorporating the foods that make Claire feel her best
What Sarah has seen in her oldest daughter as she has discovered what foods make her feel her best, and how to avoid the foods that don't make her feel good
While eating paleo can sometimes make you feel different and make you feel like you are missing out, what you actually have is this great power to understand what it is that keeps you healthy and to ultimately keep yourself healthy for the rest of your life and not play catch up when you are older
How Sarah feels like she is playing catch up on her health
The health concerns that come with a lengthy history of dieting
How disordered diet habits can carry over even when we adopt a paleo diet for healing (see more on this topic here)
The power of using leftovers, even for breakfast
How Claire would set-up her Sunday batch cooking to have healthy meals on hand for the week
Stacy recommends looking at Melissa Joulwan's Well Fed for great tips on prepping ahead and adding diversity to your meals
Claire's number one tip to people who tolerate eggs is to make a mayo yourself because there are so many different ways to change the flavor profile of a meal with mayo as a base
Navigating eating out
Research the menu in advance online
Check farm to table resources that may have a restaurant directory
Have a strategy prepped in advance when dining out
Don't be shy to ask questions and make requests at the restaurant, even call ahead to address the questions you have prior to dining there
Eat a bit before dining out if you are worried about your choices (ex. a dinner party at someone's house)
Keep an Epic Bar/RxBar in your purse
Dating paleo
Try to pick the restaurant if possible, or make a suggestion on what kind of food you would like
If asked, Claire lets her date know that she eats gluten-free, dairy free, and doesn't discuss the paleo diet element right away
Claire knows her priorities and where she is and isn't willing to flex them
How Stacy applies many of Claire's principles in her work setting as well
Inspiring others through your actions and choices
Claire's 3 top tips for people who are single and struggling to make paleo work:
Use whatever fridge and freezer space you have to your advantage - cook at home as often as possible, buy in bulk
Don't feel like you have to shop at a speciality grocery store to find "special foods", you can make most foods at home or find similar versions at your general grocery store
Go live your life the way that you want to, don't let your food or dietary choices limit the way you live your life - don't neglect your social life because you don't think you can make it work, because you absolutely can and should
Thanks for tuning in - we will be back next week!
Outro (1:13:00)
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Oct 30, 2015 • 57min
Episode 167, Meatpocolypse
Intro (0:00)
News and Views (0:56)
Stacy's good news, the celebrity who shared Beyond Bacon in their cookbook collection
Stacy's bad news, an injury over the weekend
The printing schedule with The Healing Kitchen, and how Sarah is managing her time and protecting her health despite a very stressful timeline
The Thing (12:41)
Monday morning of this week, the World Health Organization published a statement in The Lancet classifying red meat and processed meat as carcinogens
A working group completed a literature review, and based on that review and a majority opinion, have decided to label processed meats as an international agency for research on cancer group 1 carcinogen, which means it is a confirmed carcinogenic to humans; and they have decided to label red meat as a group 2A carcinogen, meaning it is likely carcinogenic to humans
They came up with these labels based on a majority, although not uniform; from studies linking high processed and red meat consumption with colorectal cancer
Even in their statement they sort of say 'despite the fact that this has never been confirmed or explained in animal studies'
Basically the press release led the media stories to say that bacon will kill you, and essentially sparked a social media battle between vegetarians/vegans and meat lovers
The reasons this has escalated into a very heated debate very quickly
The statements that Stacy has seen from meat vendors
The confusion that comes from all the various pieces of information in the media
Sarah thinks that the information that the World Health Organization recommends tends to be on the money, which is why this statement caused such a to-do, because this is such a reputable organization making such a strong statement
We expect the World Health Organization to be objective
Sarah recommends that people check out her blog post from the summer on the link between meat consumption and cancer
Sarah feels that the science on meat consumption shows that we need to come up with a more complete definition for carcinogenic
There are really four mechanisms that are possible explanations on why processed and read meat consumption may cause cancer, and at least three out out of four of those explanations are missing the link between meat consumption and cancer when you are eating at least five servings of vegetables a day
When we are talking about the meat and cancer link, all of the compounds in meat that have been linked to cancer are no different depending on how that meat is raised - so unfortunately they are in both conventional and grass-fed meat, which creates a different platform for the discussion
The role that heme iron plays and the damage that it causes in the gut lining and cells
What happens with heme when chlorophyll is present - displaying what happens when you have a side of broccoli next to your steak
The cancer link doesn't happen anymore when you consume vegetables with your meat, and so it starts to be that high meat diets don't cause cancer - its start to be that high meat diets that are simultaneously low in vegetable content are creating an environment in which cancer is more likely to grow
As soon as you add vegetables you are basically negating the high cancer risk of meat consumption, which you see in many scientific studies
High vegetable consumption is linked to a lower risk of every chronic illness, with the ideal number of servings per day being five
It is because of this information that Sarah feels you cannot uniformly say that meat causes cancer, because it is a very specific situation where meat is carcinogenic
The conversation should not demonize meat, but instead open the door for a discussion about why it is important to have a balance of vegetables and protein on our plates and why it actually improves health and reduces the risk of this link to cancer
Stacy finds that it is interesting that so much emphasis is being placed on processed meat, and that we need to take a step back and discuss what processed meat is and understand if/how the carcinogenic factor of the food is being altered
There are so many beneficial things to meat that are never discussed
Stacy feels that the information isn't truly representative of what these leading organizations know to be true, which is really unfortunate because this has led to so much confusion
Sarah feels like the opportunity to educate the general public is being completely missed, that we are trying to shortcut the science for the general public, assuming that they don't want the resources and tools to make informed choices
How can we expect to make any change without changing how we communicate health information, the rules approach does not work
The choice in this situation isn't don't eat bacon, it is have some vegetables on the side
We are constantly asking people to make these choices of deprivation, and the consequences this creates can be seen all around us
We need to help people understand what to eat, not just what not to eat, and to explain why
Stacy's thoughts on all the ways you can get in your five servings - and don't forget that most of the compounds in fruit are also equally beneficial
When in doubt add more vegetables to your plate
Stacy and Sarah will be back next week with a great topic!
Old lady ways
A reward for when Sarah finishes her book
Thoughts on The Martian
Carving out time to read for fun
And remember, be careful what you read on the internet, that seems to be the common thing that we are learning
Outro (53:42)
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Oct 22, 2015 • 1h 17min
Episode 166, Danielle Walker
Intro (0:00)
News and Views (0:56)
Sarah is working on submitting her book and getting it off to the printer
Stacy's favorite person in paleo, and long-time guest on The Paleo View (episode 42 and 109), is here as a guest on this week's show - welcome Danielle Walker!
Danielle had a baby recently and will be helping to answer a number of questions related to pregnancy, newborns, and breastfeeding
You can find more on Danielle on her site, Against All Grain, she has a popular YouTube channel, and is a New York Times Bestselling Author of Against All Grain and Meals Made Simple - and she is currently working on a third book
What brought Danielle to blogging
Danielle's number one job is being a mom, find out more about her kids here
The difference in Danielle's pregnancies
Fulfilling pregnancy cravings in a way that supports your health, but also makes you feel normal
Why people experience a shift in the immune system when they are pregnant - some experience a remission and others experience flairs, with the most major immune system shift happening when the baby weans
How Danielle is managing her health during the postpartum phase to reduce the possibility of an autoimmune flair
Sarah's recommendations on how to reduce the risk of a flair postpartum
Uber focus on nutrient density - how and why the immune system is a nutrient gas guzzler, with the immune regulator being the most sensitive to nutrient deficiencies
Get a lot of sleep - let go of perfection, and focus on basic needs
Activity is great, but prioritize sleep
Be aware of stress levels and triggers
Danielle's protocol when she notices a flair
Creating a personal list of foods that are automatic no items that cause issues, and the role that a food journal can play in helping you identify your problematic foods
Milk production shifts around the 6 week marker and what is happening at a hormonal level that impacts that change in milk supply
What Stacy experienced with her food intolerances while breastfeeding her boys and how that led her to elimination dieting
Getting Calcium from Non-Dairy Sources (34:09)
There is calcium in other foods, and in fact more absorbable calcium in other foods than the calcium in dairy - we absorb a much higher percentage of calcium from cruciferous vegetables than we do from the calcium in diary
We need calcium to make breastmilk
There is a collection of studies that looked at dairy consumption and long-term bone health and there is actually no correlation between dairy intake and bone health, if anything there is a slight negative correlation
One study shows that the more dairy you consume the more likely you are to have bone health problems
Studies show that the most important diet factor to bone health is vegetable consumption
One of Stacy's favorite soup recipes is Danielle's Chicken and Vegetable Soup, which she finds as a convenient way to get vegetables and bone broth in
What Danielle has noticed with the foods she is eating and how those impact Easton through breastmilk
Supplementing Easton with a probiotic
Checkout kellymom.com for great factual information on breastfeeding, and for community and support with all things lactation
How and why antibodies from mom cross into breastmilk
When you are nursing, your body will prioritize the food source for your child - your body will essentially take the nutrients you are not getting enough of from your reserves and pass them along to your child
Top Foods Nursing Moms Should Eat (52:20)
Protein
Mineral rich foods (organ meats and vegetables like cruciferous vegetables)
Vitamin D (fish and shellfish; pastured raised animals; grass-fed dairy; time out in the sun)
Vitamin A (liver, egg yolks)
Antioxidants (organ meat, high quality meats, lots of vegetables)
How to get 5 servings of vegetables a day to optimize health
As long as you are getting adequate animals foods and then piling on the vegetables, that is the best case scenario for your health
Danielle's tips for incorporating healthy foods and healthy habits
Making soup and adding in vegetables
Putting vegetables in smoothies and adding collagen (Stacy adds Vital Proteins)
Prepping ahead and using the crockpot, see this post for Danielle's recommended prep ahead recipes
Accepting help
More from Danielle on how she is doing and feeling being in the newborn stage
Thank you so much Danielle for coming back on The Paleo View - and congratulations on Easton's arrival and thank you for being such a positive role model to so many in the community
Be sure to find Danielle and all of her social media channels on her site HERE
Thanks everyone for listening!
Outro (1:13:28)
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Oct 15, 2015 • 22min
Episode 165, Chit Chat & Community
Intro (0:00)
News and Views (0:56)
Sarah's new Skype picture
The Healing Kitchen was turned in on time and the publisher's response - moving the release date from February 2016 to December 2015
Sarah is still prioritizing her health goals and getting in sleep and fitness, but doing a check in podcast this week was a must to balance all of Sarah's other demands
Work finally calmed down for Stacy and she has been spending a lot more time relaxing
This past weekend her and Matt went to Brent & Heather's wedding, and it was such an amazing celebration that included so many fun activities
Stacy also bought a convertible over the weekend
Stacy is going to give Sarah her chill vibes to help her get through the book publishing process
There is a MEGA AWESOME guest scheduled for next week and we can't wait to share that episode
Sarah's plans for future books
How book writing kind of landed in Sarah's lap and wasn't something she had consciously sought out as a career goal
Stacy's thoughts on sharing a passion with the world
When Sarah evaluated going back into academics vs. continuing on the path as a blogger and book author
The amazing benefits and privileges that come with being book authors
A huge thank you to everyone who has shared reviews, left comments, connected with Stacy and Sarah in whatever way you have over the years - it all means so much
Sarah is working on book tour plans for The Healing Kitchen, stay tuned for details
And a big congratulations to Brent & Heather on their amazing wedding!
Thank you for checking in with Stacy and Sarah this week - we will be back next week!
Outro (19:39)
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Oct 8, 2015 • 1h 18min
Episode 164, Joshua Weissman
Intro (0:00)
News and Views (0:56)
Sarah listened to the show for a first time in a long time
Why Stacy and Sarah don't routinely listen to their show
Matt, feel free to interject bits and pieces into the show as you would like
Welcome Josh from Slim Palate
How and when Matt and Stacy first met Josh, and discovering his cookbook
Josh's guest post on the Paleo Parents site
Josh was a part of the Take Back Your Health Conference this year, and is actually in a movie that was screened at the event over the weekend, Revolution: Food movie
Made for perfect timing for him to make an appearance on The Paleo View while he is in town
Inspired by a recent post that Josh shared, Stacy thought it would be great to have him on the show to share more
What happens when Stacy records with show guests in person
Cole and Josh's love for the 'oh burn' moments
Cole interacting with people at the event and the feedback he shared with some of these movement leaders
The people who are in the movie and why the information they shared was so inspiring and why the concepts were so unique and new
The cinematography in the film is stunning, and the video will be available online in November ---> don't miss it here
More on the Post (16:30)
Losing so much weight so young and how that impacted Josh going through that process in a public setting
How weight-loss impacted Stacy over the years
Josh's original story
Lost over 100 pounds at age 16 and that was also when he started his blog
Stacy helped promote Josh's story because she was so moved by it
He published his book at 16 as well
Josh has OCD and got easily obsessed with body image the further he got into his journey
Body dysmorphia amongst teens, and especially with guys and how they deal with it
The anxiety it gave Josh to compare himself to the men's health magazines
Losing too much weight and when Josh first saw himself on film
How body dysmorphia messes with your head
Reaching out to lifting coaches for guidance on food intake
The fear of gaining weight and the mental challenge of needing to shift his dysmorphic mentality towards changing his habits
Refusing sugar for so long, despite not having a condition the required that sort of restriction
The trouble with the all or nothing mentality
The program Josh did during his weight-gaining process
How Josh now feels about his body and how he physically feels after putting on 70 pounds
Truly comfortable in his own skin now
His various emotions though the gain, and now he feels like he is just as he is supposed to be
Feeling mentally sharper and having better, consistent energy
Should vs. want
Loving our body and where it is at today
Josh's inspiration from Elliott Hulse
Building up off of something that is already good and making it stronger
The common issue with people transitioning one eating disorder to the next
The issue with orthorexia in the paleo community
The promise Josh made to himself to stay grounded in real food when working on his weight-gain
What Josh's suggestions are for those who are dealing with body dysmorphia and/or orthorexia
Stacy's post on disordered eating
Stacy's mindset around the "good foods" and the "bad foods" and how this thinking can backfire on her overall habits and goals
Being too harsh on yourself leads to anxiety
Knowing what choices you want to make for yourself on a daily basis
Strategies & Resources (54:43)
Josh reminds himself that he is nourishing his body to grow to avoid the anxiety that use to come with eating carbs and/or sugars
Mentally acknowledging yourself and giving yourself props when you are making progress
The power of positive self talk
Stacy's way of finding rechargers for her system that have nothing to do with food
Stacy also has always identified an accountably partner when she is working through a specific health challenge
Identifying the snowball foods
Sarah's top strategy is sleep
Sarah also thinks about how she looks through her husband's eyes
Making time for quality grown up time with your significant other is also important
How the lifestyle stuff impacts Sarah's relationship with food
Thank you to Josh for coming on this weeks show!
Be sure to visit Josh on his site Slim Palate and to checkout his cookbook as well
Also look into Revolution: Food movie
Thanks again - we will be back next week!
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