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Welcome to Real Talk, Whole Life—part candid phone call with your nerdy best friends, part myth-busting, and entirely unfiltered. Wellness without the woo. Womanhood without the guilt. Wisdom from the fine folks who survived dial-up and low-fat lies.Host Stacy Toth brings honest, heartfelt conversations about what it means to live fully—in your body, your brain, and your messy, magical life. From midlife mayhem and mental health to Botox alternatives and book recs, we’re covering it all—with a side of sarcasm and a whole lot of heart.No shame. No pseudoscience. Just the kind of conversations you actually want to hear when you call a friend—especially if “wellness” has never quite felt like it was made for you.Rooted in womanhood, open to anyone who’s ever been side-eyed in a yoga studio. Come for the hot takes, stay for the healing.Real Talk, Whole Life is hosted by Stacy Toth, bestselling diet culture author turned anti-diet health at any size educator. Her goal is to create a safe space for all to explore their own version of wellness without the elitist self-focused woo woo. Previously The Whole View and The Paleo View, this evolution of the podcast is a reflection of the growth we all go through exploring being middle aged. Expect a wide variety of guests on an even greater variety of topics, but always inclusive ways for non-toxic living (mental and physical).
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Jan 19, 2018 • 46min
Episode 283: Handling Critics, Conflicts and Vegans
Ep. 283: Handling Critics, Conflicts and VegansIn this episode, we talk about conflicts with people, especially vegans, about the paleo diet and how to defend your choices.Click here to listen in iTunesIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 283: Handling Critics, Conflicts and Vegans
News and Views (0:41)
Wow! It's been 5 and a half years of podcasting! We've really evolved over these years!
Reminder about Sarah's AIP Lecture series!
We're in the season where you'll encounter well meaning people who want to challenge your diet choices and there's a ton of new vegan propaganda documentaries out there.
Sarah's takedown of What the Health is here.
Sarah thinks that Stacy, a reformed vegetarian, might have insight on how to handle social situations
Monique says (10:09), "Hi Stacy and Sarah! Thanks for your amazing work in promoting health and wellness. I am not new to Paleo and have been a fan of you both for a while but only recently started listening to your podcasts on my daily walks. So, my question is this: how do you approach vegetarians, vegans, or pro-plant based people in a social setting who talk smack about the Paleo diet and claim that meat eaters are unhealthy, sluggish, ignorant, selfish, etc? I usually either get mad and start going off about how they overload on grains and don't actually eat a lot of vegetables compared to Paleo, say nothing, or talk about how a diet based in vegetables, fruits, and animal protein has drastically changed my life for the better. I don't necessarily have a problem with vegetarianism/veganism (I have a couple of meatless meals per week), but it's not a lifestyle that's sustainable and healthiest for me full time - a Paleo template is. What is your way of approaching these situations?"
If someone is aggressive and trolly at you, don't engage! It won't turn out well.
And sometimes you have to agree to disagree.
If someone is vegetarian for religious reasons, we don't think it's appropriate to question it.
Stacy is reminded of eating with Matt as a vegetarian and being repulsed by his rare burger. They eventually changed their views due to intellectual exploration.
There is common ground on animal welfare between paleo and vegans. We both want animals to live as close to natural lives as possible and to live cruelty-free lives.
Also, growing corn, soy and wheat is hard on the planet.
Beef is better than chicken, too. You take fewer lives per meal and its better for you.
Sarah points out that eating nose to tail is more respectful, less wasteful and better for your health
Sarah considers paleo to be a plant based diet and is shocked that some paleo people think you only need meat. The evidence is very strong that we are omnivores!
Stacy is reminded of her brother, the twinkie vegan. He's only interested in not eating animals, not in health benefits.
Break down what's most important to the other person and address it from their concerns. Listen to what they have to say!
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Jan 12, 2018 • 46min
Episode 282: Joint Health, Arthritis, and Why We Eat All the Soup, Broth, and Collagen
Ep. 282: Joint Health, Arthritis, and Why We Eat All the Soup, Broth, and CollagenIn this episode, Stacy and Sarah discuss joint health and rheumatoid arthritis and why they recommend collagen for all joint issues!Click here to listen in iTunesIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 282: Joint Health, Arthritis, and Why We Eat All the Soup, Broth, and Collagen
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Looks like a ton of you are Souping! Thanks for sharing on social media!
Stacy's IgA Deficiency post is here
Stacy is into broth and collagen because shes concerned with her joint health. Her grandmother had Arthritis and her joint pain and joint cracking started very young.
Rheumatoid Arthritis affects 1.5 million adults and it's one of the most common autoimmune diseases.
Sarah was diagnosed with it at 28. They said "It won't be debilitating for ten years!"
Joints and spines don't have a lot of blood flow, so they heal very slowly.
Arthritis is an autoimmune condition in which the immune system attacks the joints and they stiffen up
Collagen and gelatin are good for joints because they are high in glycine, the amino acid important in forming bones, skin, and cartilage.
You can incorporate broth into anything! If it simmers away then the nutrients are staying!
See Stacy's Souping post for lots of recipes plus our Broth and Stock and Bones Tutorial for how to make it right!. Also, we love these Hot Chocolate Squares from Real Food RN.
Sarah recommends Avocado as well. Especially in pudding form. She uses the Practical Paleo recipe as well as the PaleOMG recipe
Sarah says the Real Life Paleo Phased Approach is really good for transition.
And if your vitamin deficient, you might want to supplement, particularly Vitamin D. But don't overdo it!
In terms of lifestyle factors, first quit smoking!
Less sleep makes you more sensitive to pain and sleeping more decreases symptoms of arthritis! So get to bed!
Stacy recommends that you not drink caffeine in the afternoon at all for sleep quality.
Stacy's back injury recovery.
Vital Proteins not only has Type II Collagen pills, but also great collagen and gelatin supplements!
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Jan 5, 2018 • 1h 3min
Episode 281: How Many Vegetables?!
Ep. 280: How Many Vegetables?!In this episode, Stacy and Sarah discuss the health benefits of vegetables and how many you should be eating.Click here to listen in iTunesIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 281: How Many Vegetables?!
News and Views (0:41)
Happy New Year!
Stacy is doing a "souping" routine. Follow her in her Facebook group for more!
Paleo Mom Importance of Vegetables
Veggiephobia: Why limiting your vegetable intake might be slowing down healing
You'd be best served by up to 8 servings of vegetables, but a serving isn't as big as you think!
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Dec 29, 2017 • 56min
Episode 280: Just BLEEPing Love Yourself
Ep. 280: Just BLEEPing Love YourselfIn this episode, Stacy and Sarah discuss the health ramifications of an on-again, off-again approach to healthy eatingClick here to listen in iTunesIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 280: Just BLEEPing Love Yourself
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Stacy's heard a lot of talk about "yo-yo" Paleo; doing 30-day challenges then eating all the pizza
She wants to talk about loving our bodies instead!
It's especially prevalent this time of year, whether it's keto, a cleanse, etc.
Science! Sarah says remembering that stress is both physical and mental is helpful.
Many changes create a stress on our bodies.
Stochastic change, or an element of randomness, is helpful in some areas of health according to research, like working out at different time, occasionally varying calorie intake, could be good stressors.
Big switches in macronutrient ratios create stress on the body, and swinging back and forth creates too much stress.
Our bodies get used to producing certain amounts of digestive enzymes, and big shifts can create imbalances, and imbalances in gut bacteria (usually bad bacteria grow rapidly).
These, in turn, produce neuroactive compounds, which can cause not only GI symptoms but mood swings.
That doesn't even take into account how many inflammatory compounds you're eating, challenge to our metabolisms and lack of nutrient diversity we're facing.
Stacy points out that if we're loving ourselves, we don't NEED these big changes.
Sarah says it's okay to make the conscientious choice to choose what's not best for you once in a while, you're challenging your body with a little stochastic randomness that might actually be beneficial
Stacy says it's important to focus on your long-term goals.
When Sarah has a craving, she indulges—but she also asks herself if lifestyle factors like sleep or stress are causing that craving and adjusts accordingly.
Mindset shifts are helpful. What can you do with gusto that will achieve the same result?
Sarah likes body scan meditations.
Happy New Year and thank you for listening, we're approaching 5 million downloads (a lot from our 6 listeners!).
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Dec 22, 2017 • 38min
Episode 279: Sarah and the Tonsillectomy
Ep. 279: Sarah and the TonsillectomyIn this episode, Sarah talks about her decision to proceed with a tonsillectomy for her daughter.Click here to listen in iTunesor download and listen by clicking the PodBean Player belowIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 279: Sarah and the Tonsillectomy
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Stacy thanks you for your well wishes on the anniversary of her brother Andrew's death
Sarah's daughter recently had a tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy after a long struggle to get her tonsils back to normal.
Sarah and her family have a history of having inflamed tonsils.
While there is a small role for tonsils, possibly as a early warning system for the immune system, you can easily live without them.
Sarah had a lot of antibiotics for strep because of tonsils and wonders how that affected her health.
Her daughter also had a lot of strep as well despite a healthy lifestyle. Recently, that had increased in frequency as well.
This summer, the tonsils had swollen and wouldn't go back down to the point of affecting her sleep. They had to come out.
She had the surgery and also had her adenoids out at the same time.
Sarah has been giving her recovery foods, but feels guilty that they are juice and popsicles.
DON'T WORRY about such things! You are getting her through a tough time!
Remember: make the best decisions you can for your kids and don't dwell on what could have been.
And medicine is not the enemy! It will save your life!
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Dec 15, 2017 • 50min
Episode 278: Diana Rodgers
Ep. 278: Diana RodgersIn this episode, Diana Rodgers comes on to talk about Kale Vs. CowClick here to listen in iTunesor download and listen by clicking the PodBean Player belowIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 278: Diana Rodgers
News and Views (0:41)
Our guest this week is Diana Rodgers from Sustainable Dish!
Diana is a nutritionist/dietician and runs her own farm!
Diana is starting a film project called Kale Vs. Cow to combat the vegan propaganda films, focusing on why cows are great to eat
Go to her Generosity page to help fund the project!
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Dec 8, 2017 • 55min
Episode 277: Epigenetics, Adoption, and Turning Genes On and Off
Ep. 277: Epigenetics, Adoption, and Turning Genes On and Off
In this episode, Stacy and Sarah talk about epigenetics and how gene expression can be affected by different lifestyle stresses and factors.
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The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 277: Epigenetics, Adoption, and Turning Genes On and Off
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This is a topic that made Sarah really excited! This is fascinating science stuff!
Last year, Stacy's mom, who is adopted, tracked down her family using genetic tests from 23andMe and Ancestry.com
She found her father, two full sisters and four half siblings! So crazy!
Unfortunately, Stacy and her mom also found that cancer runs very prevalent in her family.
And Stacy's mom found that her full sisters were really similar to her, even in minor things like interests and hobbies and laughter.
Stacy was fascinated by this article about epigenetics and adoption and gave it to Sarah.
Epigenetics is the system where the body turns on or off or alters genes without actually changing DNA. There are a variety of ways that this can happen like stress, trauma, lifestyle, diet, environment, etc. And it's also heritable.
Discover magazine article: "Grandma's Experiences Leave a Mark on Your Genes"
These epigenetic signals control a variety of things like inflammation, insulin sensitivity, neurotransmitter regulation.
The emotional experiences around adoption can cause epigenetic changes in the brain.
Discovery came out of experiments on nature vs. nuture. They found that rats that were groomed more by their mothers were more resilient to stress. But then they found that this was caused by epigenetic changes in cortisol pathways. They then tested the theory by switching mothers and found that the epigenetics changed for the inattentive mothers' babies.
It's not nature vs. nuture; It's nature affects nuture affects nature!
The theory goes now that the stress of being adopted affects epigenetics, but the new nuturing environment could reverse any damage. Adoptive parents would best be served by taking that into account and be sure of providing nuturing touch and love.
Thousands of epigenetic changes are made in childhood that could affect the adult life
Some companies are working on developing a epigenetic "clean slate" to reset epigenetic markers for people adversely affected by epigenetic problems.
This might be harmful for some, but also could help people affected by depression, addiction, phobias and other severe challenges.
Epigenetic changes could affect three generations thanks to epigenetics: stress to the mother affects the fetus, who's eggs are also developing, affecting the grandchild!
Evolutionarily, these epigenetic changes make sense: they provide very quick change to genetic presentation without waiting generations for natural selection to select.
We know that certain things are bad for epigenetic control: overeating, nutrient deficiency, stress, famine, etc.
Stacy has noticed that snuggling her children is very good for them and her.
The three generation inheritance means that grandchildren of holocaust survivors are still affected by the holocaust!
They have found that it is definitely in childhood that makes the most epigenetic difference: you are much more affected by poor socioeconomic status in childhood than adulthood, for example.
Some epigenetic controls are inherited, but some are wiped clean between generations.
Sarah's NOVA special on Epigenetics.
Two types of chemicals are epigenetic controls: Methyl groups turn off genes, Acetyl groups turn them on. So how is this affected in people with MTHFR mutations?
This whole field of study is going to be explored more and more in the coming years and we'll know so much more about how to control all this stuff!
Stacy is often wondering how her lifestyle might have affected Cole when she was pregnant with him during a more chaotic time in her life.
Sarah says these discoveries are evidence that we need to FUND MORE BASIC SCIENCE EXPLORATION!
Next week: An exciting guest!
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Dec 1, 2017 • 40min
Episode 276: Combining AIP with Other Diet Protocols
Ep. 276: Combining AIP with Other Diet ProtocolsIn this episode, Stacy and Sarah answer a common question: can I combine the Autoimmune Protocol with other diets and protocols like keto and intermittent fasting?Click here to listen in iTunesIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 276: Combining AIP with Other Diet Protocols
News and Views (0:41)
Thank you for your support of last weeks podcast on Cancer and Personal Care Items!
It's December! Can you believe we've made it to the end of 2017?!
Meanwhile, Sarah's daughter is listening to "Don't Be a Jerk, It's Christmas."
Stacy's boys use Alexa on the Echo DOT to turn on inappropriate Lonely Island songs.
Sarah is releasing a course on the Autoimmune Protocol Lecture Series with video and all kinds of learning materials! Check it out now!
Meredith asks (13:04), "Hi Dr. Ballantyne! I found one of your articles on intermittent fasting and the autoimmune protocol. It indicates that we should not do both as the same time due to putting too much stress on the body. However, do you think that's it okay to do both if I have already been on IF and Keto for at least 3 months prior to starting AIP?"
We have done shows on Keto and our opinions of it. Hint: not fans. Start there for more!
The AIP is supposed to be a nutrient dense diet and Keto and IF will make it hard to impossible to get the nutrient density! You'll lose the most important part of AIP!
Many people who go too low carb end up making their conditions WORSE! Stacy experienced this.
AIP removes inflammatory foods, adds nutrient sufficiency and lifestyle factors and ends up being great for immune, endocrine and all over health. It, by itself, should resolve most conditions you might be using Keto and IF for.
The only things Sarah could conceive of using with AIP, would be a short term low FODMAP diet for SIBO, but typically you can't resolve SIBO with diet alone.
Even then, don't do any other diets without the supervision of a health professional
Even GAPS and SCD, which are recommended for gut health, the AIP is already designed to help gut health!
Fasting is recommended for the "spring clean up" effect of autophagy. But autophagy is also a part of sleep and exercise! So you shouldn't need IF
And women especially don't get the benefits because their hormones are usually much more susceptible to making up the loss of calories with hunger.
Keto was originally for people who had epilepsy because it usually reduced the number of seizures by simulating starvation.
But women tend to lose their periods and fertility on Keto. Not good!
Keto does supress the immune system. So you might see relief from inflammation, but over time you become susceptible to infections. It's not regulated, it's just supressed!
Keto also harms your gut friends, too. Your favorite friends need carbs and fiber! This leads to poor digestion plus mood effects and lots of other problems.
Keto may cause the same IRREVERSIBLE effects to your gut microbiome as antibiotics!
But really, listen to your body. If you're looking for something to add to Keto and IF, then maybe they aren't working for you and you should give them up.
Next week is going to be a great show about a story Stacy's been sitting on for a while!
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Nov 24, 2017 • 1h 12min
Episode 275: Cancer Risk from Personal Care Items
Ep. 275: Cancer Risk from Personal Care Items In this episode, Stacy and Sarah are talking about the hazardous components of a lot of personal care items.Click here to listen in iTunesor download and listen by clicking the PodBean Player belowIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 275: Cancer Risk from Personal Care Items
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This episode is inspired by Stacy's post on Federal Regulations
Sarah also read State of the Evidence 2017 from the NIH
We are constantly bombarded by toxic compounds that are everywhere in the environment and can lead to bad health conditions!
But if you're feeling overwhelmed, remember the protective effects of veggies, nutrient sufficiency and sleep.
Check out the EWG app to scan items to find how toxic items you use are.
The NIH paper went over the evidence of breast cancer to determine why the rates are increasing.
These chemicals are not just about breast cancer, but can cause all kinds of chronic disease.
Hormone disruption is one of the key reasons. Extra estrogen can cause breast cancer. For example, hormone replacement and birth control
You will find issues in hormonal products as well a disrupters like BPA in plastics.
Stacy likes Beautycounter products
Sarah uses Buffalo Gal and Primal Life Organics.
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Nov 17, 2017 • 25min
Episode 274: Sarah Hugs Our Listeners
Ep. 274: Sarah Hugs Our Listeners In this episode, Sarah is on the road for her Paleo Principles tour! We welcome Paleo Principles into the world!Click here to listen in iTunesor download and listen by clicking the PodBean Player belowIf you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 274: Sarah Hugs Our Listeners
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Paleo Principles is out now! Sarah is extremely proud of this veritable text book of paleo science with a recipe book to boot.
Sarah is now out on tour, hugging everyone and enjoying meeting our listeners.
This is one of the best things about t0urs: meeting you!
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