

Pakistonomy
Tabadlab
Pakistan's first podcast focused on the country's economy, simplifying the complex relationships between paisa, politics and the public.
Presented by Tabadlab.
Presented by Tabadlab.
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Mar 3, 2023 • 44min
Pakistonomy - Episode 145 - What's going on at the Supreme Court?
In this episode, Uzair talks to Abdul Moiz Jaferii about the ongoing hearings in the Supreme Court, which has intervened to ensure that elections are held as per the constitution. We talked about the process that led to the hearings in the Supreme Court, the split in the bench, and the medium-term outlook for the superior judiciary.
Abdul Moiz Jaferii is a lawyer and tweets @jaferii.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:45 Why did the courts intervene for elections?
19:20 What happens if the government does not comply?
25:30 Split in the superior judiciary
36:10 Reko diq case and its end

Feb 24, 2023 • 57min
Pakistonomy - Episode 144 - India's Notice to Amend the Indus Waters Treaty
In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Erum Sattar about the Indus Waters Treaty, its history, and India's notice to amend the agreement. We dive deep into some of the capacity constraints on the Pakistani side and why we should be paying attention to ongoing events related to the treaty.
Dr.Erum Sattar is the Former Program Director of the Sustainable Water Management Program and a Lecturer at the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy, Tufts University.

Feb 17, 2023 • 46min
Pakistonomy - Episode 143 - PostEx: Powering Commerce in Pakistan
We take a step back from the coverage of the economic crisis and ongoing negotiation and focus on emerging businesses that are the future of the economy,
In this episode, Uzair talks to Omer Khan, founder and CEO of PostEx, Pakistan’s largest e-commerce service provider. PostEx is offering easy access to capital with embedded logistics and Uzair and Omer talk about the company’s vision, what it takes to solve for issues faced by small businesses, and how young adults can succeed at startups and founding their own businesses.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:20 What is PostEx?
10:45 Credit, trust, and small business
22:30 Formalizing and digitizing payments
29:30 Why cash is king?
35:30 Failing and entrepreneurship
39:50 Where is the startup ecosystem headed?

Feb 10, 2023 • 46min
Ruling elites are sleepwalking into a disaster
In this episode, Uzair talks to Ali Khizar about the ongoing negotiations with the IMF, the path forward, and why consensus is needed to rescue the economy. We also talk about debt restructuring, why the last few months have destroyed Pakistan’s credibility, and the broader challenges confronting the economy even after an IMF program is put back on track.
Ali Khizar is a business journalist who frequently writes for Business Recorder.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:45 Why did the IMF deal did not happen?
24:00 Debt restructuring needs
34:30 Political crisis and economic stability

Feb 3, 2023 • 47min
Pakistonomy - Episode 141 - What comes after the IMF?
In this episode, Uzair talks to Khurram Husain about the latest economic developments in Pakistan, focusing on the ongoing negotiations with the IMF. We also talk about why this time feels different, with not a whole lot of optimism for the economy and its future.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:55 IMF negotiations
21:35 Can the economy stabilize even with the IMF?
27:30 The role of the central bank
34:00 Why this crisis is different

Jan 27, 2023 • 47min
Pakistonomy - Episode 140 - Economic meltdown, restructuring debt, and rebuilding Pakistan
In this episode, Uzair talks to Ali Farid Khwaja about the economic chaos in Pakistan and the collapse of the rupee. We also talk about why restructuring is necessary and how that process would work. Finally, we also touch on the startup community and takeaways from Paklaunch’s Unconference, which was recently held in Dubai.
Ali Farid Khwaja is Chairman of KTrade Securities and has over a decade of experience in the technology and financial sectors.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:30 Devaluation of the rupee and debt restructuring
15:30 Why has selective default happened?
24:30 Economic discourse and role of politics
31:10 Gravity of the situation
34:43 Takeaways from Paklaunch Unconference
40:19 Saving and investing for the long-term
44:30 Need for honesty

Jan 22, 2023 • 30min
Pakistonomy - Special Episode - Understanding Pakistan's Economy
In this presentation, Uzair talks through a presentation on the economic crises in Pakistan, their causes, and the implication of not resolving the crisis through structural reforms.

Jan 20, 2023 • 1h 1min
Pakistonomy - Episode 139 - Chip wars & Pakistan’s semiconductor potential
In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Naveed Sherwani about the global semiconductor industry, how geopolitics is affecting what is an extremely interconnected supply chain, and Pakistan’s potential in this space.
Dr. Naveed Sherwani is Chairman, President, and CEO of Rapid Silicon, which was launched in 2021. Rapid Silicon’s goal is to promote, adopt and implement open source tech to address the low- to mid-range FPGA market. Field-programmable gate arrays (FPGA), or integrated circuits sold off-the-shelf.
He is a well-known semiconductor industry veteran with over 35 years of entrepreneurial, engineering, and management experience. He is widely recognized as an innovator and leader in the field of design automation of ASICs and microprocessors.
Dr. Sherwani has founded or co-founded over fifteen silicon companies including Intel
Microelectronics Services, Open-Silicon, and others. The companies collectively have a valuation of over $4.5B.
Reading Recommendations:
- Talent is overrated by Geoffrey Colvin
- Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance by Angela Duckworth
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 State of the global semiconductor ecosystem
13:50 US-China competition
30:00 Pakistan’s potential in this space
40:10 Ongoing developments in Pakistan’s ecosystem
54:35 Reading recommendations
You can read the semiconductor plan here - https://paklaunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Pakistan-National-Semiconductor-Plan-PNSP-1.pdf

Jan 13, 2023 • 56min
Pakistonomy - Episode 138 - The path out of Pakistan's economic crisis
In this episode, we continue our focus on Pakistan’s economic crisis and discuss the way out of it with Dr. Ahmed Pirzada. Dr. Ahmed Pirzada is an Assistant Professor at the University of Bristol, UK. He is also a Fellow of the Higher Education Academy, UK, and the Chair of the independent Economic Advisory Group (EAG), Pakistan.
He specialises in macroeconomics with a focus in monetary policy, and the conversation dives a bit deeper into what he sees as the main drivers of the crisis, the way out of it, and why debt restructuring may be a decent option.
You should read the EAG’s latest press release on this at this link: https://eag.org.pk/eag-advises-debt-restructuring-and-warns-against-import-substitution-policies/
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:20 What caused this crisis?
19:37 What decisions exacerbated the crisis recently?
28:30 Distorted exchange rate
35:21 Debt restructuring need
45:30 Painful adjustments in the economy
51:11 Reading recommendations
Reading Recommendations:
- This time is different by Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff
- Quantum Enigma by Bruce Rosenblum and Fred Kuttner
- The history of western philosophy by Bertrand Russell

Jan 6, 2023 • 44min
Pakistonomy - Episode 137 - Pakistan Economic Outlook 2023
In the first episode of 2023, Uzair talks to regular guest Ammar H. Khan about the economic situation in Pakistan and the outlook for 2023. We talked about why the Dar Peg is so dangerous, why people keep ignoring economic fundamentals to run Pakistan’s economy, and the path forward.
Reading Recommendations:
- The Prize by Daniel Yergin
- World for Sale by Javier Blas
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:50 Current economic situation
8:00 Why is the Dar Peg so dangerous?
20:30 Will decent policies be made in 2023?
23:28 Energy conservation plan of the PDM
28:00 Bright spots in the economy
37:10 Global themes to watch for
40:45 Reading recommendations