Heterodorx

In 1993 John Gilmore famously said, "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” To learn why that’s no longer true, listen to Josh Moon enumerate “the amount of things that have broken that people in the industry assumed could never break,” as activists with personal vendettas and political agendas relentlessly employ every possible strategy to silence his small but notorious gossip site Kiwi Farms. From Cloudflare to Hurricane Electric, ISPs, data centers, and payment processors, literally anything up and down the Border Gateway Protocol has been targeted to shut down the 'Farms. With ISIS, the KKK, Stormfront, neo-nazis, and child porn all continuing to enjoy online services, who expected “the gossip site that makes fun of troons" to be the straw to break the Internet's backbone? And why have the individuals and organizations who once stood against censorship lost their own?Links:Brave browser: https://brave.com/Tor browser: https://www.torproject.org/download/Keffals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KeffalsThe World Should Not Need Kiwi Farms by Corinna Cohn: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-world-should-not-need-kiwi-farmsLiz Fong Jones calls Corinna a “Kiwi Farms operative”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np9erdnM4l8&t=3074s&ab_channel=LizFong-JonesBorder Gateway Protocol (BGP): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_ProtocolElectronic Frontier Foundation: https://www.eff.org/Internet Archive: https://archive.org/Copyright’s origins in censorship: https://questioncopyright.org/promiseFIRE: https://www.thefire.org/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

The Dorx do a quick review of the 2023 ICONS International Women's Sports Summit in Denver, among whose speakers were many former Heterodorx guests like Carole Hooven, Colin Wright, Helen Joyce, Kara Dansky, and Kim Jones; plus Suzanne Vierling, Dina McMillan, Riley Gaines, Jennifer Sey, and countless other badass women, including tall otherworldly young athletes, elder Olympic champions, lawyers, writers, policy-makers, conservatives, liberals, and spectral beings. There were even some men, like Jon Pike⁠, ⁠Ross Tucker⁠, Corinna, and at least one cute security guy. The theme was WINNING, and we're going to, just like Nina wins an argument with Corinna about whether the elite professional-managerial class constitutes an "orthodoxy." It is what's best in life!ICONS website (currently featuring videos from the 3-day Summit): https://www.iconswomen.com/GENDER WARS Playing Cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/N.W.H.: F*ck the Security Guards: https://youtu.be/6LjW6j56ZgIElaine Miller at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips/status/1684893485902565378Donate via Nina’s blog (upper right hand corner): https://blog.ninapaley.com/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Julia Mason is a practicing pediatrician, a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and a founding member of the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine (SEGM). A politically homeless, feline-affirming, bleeding-heart liberal who wants to pause pediatric transition, Mason raises grave concerns about the “affirmation model” which locks in adolescent identities at a time kids cycle through them as part of growing up. We learn the AAP actively suppresses internal dissent while profiting from corporate endorsements; that there are no empirical criteria for identifying which kids are “actually” trans; that small children believe whatever adults - especially their parents - tell them; and that Corinna is drinking a lot of electrolytes. Links:Wheaton Labs: https://wheaton-labs.com/Julia Mason on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JuliaMasonMD1SEGM, the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine https://segm.org/Reconsidering Informed Consent: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35300570/The Myth of “Reliable Research”: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36593754/Gender doctor praises Leelah Alcorn “boldly” committing suicide: https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/leader-of-alabama-gender-clinic-praises--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Olivia works on the front lines of America’s public education system, teaching in the Pacific Northwest. So dangerous is her line of work that she’s choosing to remain semi-anonymous — for now. What will it take for her, and others witnessing State-ordered genderist indoctrination of children, to say something? Corinna gently reminds that we have to be able to say some things are wrong, while Nina says this may be everyone’s last chance to speak out before it’s “cool” (and then passé). Olivia explains how teachers are in a bind, and unless the spiral of silence gets broken, America’s public schools face an even bleaker future. Links:Genspect: https://genspect.org/Gender A Wider Lens podcast: https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/The Milgram Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experimentRona Duwe, German feminist: https://substack.com/@ronaduweGender Wars cards (are they appropriate in the classroom?): https://www.heterodorx.com/gender-wars-cards/FAIR Educators Alliance: https://www.fairforall.org/fair-educators-alliance/Angus Fox: https://genspect.org/author/angusfox/FIRE: https://www.thefire.org/WDI: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Returning sexy guest Ben Appel recently wrote about genderism and other political ideologies infiltrating Alcoholics Anonymous, despite its 10th Tradition prohibiting alignment with outside issues. But what is a “Tradition” anyway? Ben and Nina possibly violate the 11th one (“always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films”) in an attempt to describe the wacky, brilliant, not-really-a-cult-except-sometimes, life-changing, spiritual, occasionally smelly world of 12-Step recovery programs. Corinna learns the difference between AA and Al-Anon; Nina wishes she believed in god and says “irrational problems demand irrational solutions”; and Ben talks about compulsive praying and his upcoming book, “Cis White Gay,” along with a ton of other interesting topics. Another great episode! Keep coming back! Links:Ben Appel: https://www.benappelwrites.com/writingHow Alcoholics Anonymous Lost Its Way by Ben Appel: https://unherd.com/2023/05/how-alcoholics-anonymous-lost-its-way/Our Wilfred Reilly episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-82-hoaxes-wokeses-and-other-folkses-with-wilfred-reilly/AA’s 12 Traditions: https://www.aa.org/the-twelve-traditionsSynanon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SynanonAlcoholics Anonymous: https://www.aa.org/Al-Anon: https://al-anon.org/The Serenity Prayer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_PrayerNina’s Adventures book: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/ninas-adventures-book/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Kim Jones is a co-founder of ICONS, the International Council On WomeN’s Sports. A former college athlete whose daughter had to compete against Lia Thomas, Jones intelligently and passionately articulates why “sports are the public arena of the difference of the sexes,” and how gaslighting  girls in the spotlight sends a harrowing message to all women. We also discuss the inversion of the word “inclusion,” the slipperiness of the word “gender,” men undressing next to strange girls, the importance of speaking your mind, Corinna's fanciful claims of doing Nina's yard work, Title IX, women who advocate male dominance, and more. ICONS Women’s Sports Summit, Denver July 21-23 (the Dorx will be there!): https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-conference-registration/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

The Dorx skip the guest to discuss online drama du jour: so-called “allies” using language detransitioners don’t like. Nina asserts no one likes to be told how to speak; that there is some violence inherent to all surgery; that middle-aged women are forced into an unwanted mommy role; and all humans are capable of healing, no matter how disfigured or mutilated. Corinna says we can use plain instead of charged language, and implores “don’t be an ally, be a listener.” He argues calmly, rationally, and in good faith, before mentioning he recently doubled his dose of exogenous estrogen. Then he returns to Twitter to provoke everyone further for some reason.Links:GENDER WARS cards (temporarily out of stock, but on backorder): https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/India Willoughby's review: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/AVYdzaeaDtSPIcc07UMary Harrington: https://reactionaryfeminist.com/feminism-against-progress/Corinna provoking people on Twitter: https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1664351092535173120https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1665547115236405248https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1665549900258443265--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Vice Director of Genspect Alasdair Gunn (nee Angus Fox) rejoins the Dorx to recap Killarney’s Bigger Picture conference, compare European and US approaches to gender issues, and update us on his health. Soon Corinna is pushing exogenous estrogen on Nina, who just wants to settle down with a female housemate despite being recently named a Scarlet W***e. Other major themes include menopause, burly Irish asphalt workers, tarot cards, and repeated threats by Corinna to edit all this out. It’s the quality content our firefighting, tree-felling, cooking and cleaning listeners expect!Links:Shawn Thierry’s Texas speech: https://twitter.com/lukemaciastx/status/1657213918048034817IMPRO by Keith Johnstone: https://archive.org/details/pdfy-KIkLrSPi_3lzPl5vGENDER WARS Playing Cards which can totally also be used for Tarot-style divination: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Most autogynephiles — men sexually aroused by impersonating, embodying, or identifying as women — are so deeply ashamed of their condition they deny its existence. Phil Illy is a rare exception whose acceptance and curiosity led him to research and write a book on the topic. We discuss attraction to others (“allosexuality”) vs attraction to embodied states or oneself (“autosexuality”); the narcissism of falling in love; “meta-sexuality”; gender-based vs. sex-based attraction; autism as identity; pillow queens; Corinna’s boobs; Bronies; paranormal romance novels; pseudobisexuality; and autozoophilic trans turtles. After all our somewhat explicit talk about sex, we conclude it continues to be real, people continue to be weird, and everyone needs to CHILL OUT. Links:Autoheterosexuality by Phil Illy:  autohetbook.comPhil Illy's Substack: phililly.substack.comPhil on Twitter: @autogynephilic--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

For our celebratory 100th episode, podcasting role-models Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal join the Dorx as special guest audio engineers. Except Corinna’s been so busy testifying for “anti-trans" bills around the country, and Nina’s been so sick with COVID, that we only made it to episode 98. Nonetheless, we cover gender wars, egregious reporting, backlashes, Drag Queen story hours, Trump Derangement Syndrome, the Minority Stress Model, men in women’s sports, persecution complexes, Twitter, Substack, pizzas, Katie’s goddess-like spouse, Nina’s “butch energy,” safety pins, and pronouns, learning that in spite of a few irreconcilable differences, all agree that “they” is a terrible choice for individuals.Links:Katie & Jesse's podcast: https://www.blockedandreported.org/Riley Gaines at San Francisco State University: https://www.thefire.org/news/protestors-chased-down-riley-gaines-after-her-campus-speech-sfsu-says-its-proud-eventsPosie Parker in New Zealand: https://www.feministcurrent.com/2023/03/25/kellie-jay-keen-is-attacked-and-mobbed-by-trans-activists-in-new-zealand/Nina’s GiveSendGo: https://www.givesendgo.com/apocalypseanimated--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe