
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life.
We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss.
Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens.
From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics.
Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna.
Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism.
We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey.
In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness.
We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families.
We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues.
Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians.
A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program.
After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
Latest episodes

Jan 24, 2025 • 53min
Encore: From Yugoslavia to Australia — Jelena Dokic on tennis and the truth
Jelena Dokic, a renowned tennis champion and author, shares her profound journey from being a young refugee to a celebrated athlete. She discusses the dark realities of her childhood, including the abuse she faced from her father during her rise to fame. The conversation delves into confronting body shaming and the challenges of disordered eating under public scrutiny. Jelena also reflects on her growth towards self-acceptance and healing, revealing how past traumas shaped her identity and aspirations in both tennis and life.

Jan 23, 2025 • 51min
How a teen father used the local skate park to change the world
Jayden Sheridan, a young father from regional Victoria, transformed his passion for skateboarding into a powerful community initiative called Gnarly Neighbours. He shares how his difficult upbringing, marked by homelessness and violence, fueled his desire for a better life for his son. They discuss the healing power of skate parks and the importance of mentorship for troubled youth. Jayden emphasizes how skateboarding became a refuge, fostering connection and resilience in his community while helping kids find their own paths amidst adversity.

Jan 22, 2025 • 54min
43 carolling magpies, CPR on a blue tongue lizard and Claire's animal ambulance
Claire Smith, the 2025 Queensland Local Hero and founder of the state’s first kangaroo hospital, shares her incredible journey from the UK to wildlife rescue in Australia. She recalls her first encounter with the carolling magpie that ignited her passion. Claire discusses the challenges of nighttime rescues, the physiological stress of injured kangaroos, and her experiences caring for a circus of baby animals, including 43 birds in her garage. Her dedication shines through as she highlights the importance of a 24-hour wildlife rescue service.

Jan 21, 2025 • 53min
Bite Club: Surviving a shark attack, and the aftermath
Dave Pearson, founder of Bite Club, survived a harrowing shark attack in 2011 while surfing. He shares his gripping story of survival and the unexpected mental health challenges that followed. The conversation dives into the emotional journey of recovery, the importance of community support, and the haunting aftermath of trauma. Dave emphasizes resilience, recounts vivid memories of childhood surfing, and discusses how he turned his experience into a support network for fellow survivors, highlighting the profound benefits of sharing and healing together.

Jan 20, 2025 • 50min
Voicing velociraptors and capturing the dawn chorus
Doug Quin, a world-renowned sound designer and naturalist known for his work on Jurassic Park 3, shares his unique experiences in soundscapes. He discusses crafting the iconic velociraptor sounds using a blend of animal vocalizations. Doug reflects on his childhood in wartime Algeria, illustrating how those experiences shaped his love for nature. He recounts thrilling wildlife encounters, the enchanting dawn chorus of Tasmania, and the importance of silence, showcasing the magical connections between sound, memory, and our natural world.

Jan 17, 2025 • 53min
Sarah's Most Memorable Guests — Shanelle Dawson
Shanelle Dawson, daughter of Chris and Lynette Dawson and author of "My Mother's Eyes," shares her powerful journey after her father's conviction for her mother's murder. She discusses growing up believing her mother had abandoned her and reflects on family secrets and the trauma caused by domestic violence. Shanelle reveals how a hit true crime podcast became a catalyst for justice and healing. Her story emphasizes resilience as she navigates grief, confronts her father's actions, and carves out a new life for herself and her daughter.

Jan 16, 2025 • 51min
Sarah's Most Memorable Guests — Tony Bull
Tony Bull, a former inmate with over three decades in and out of jail, shares his transformative journey from a life of crime to personal redemption. He found his voice through the Spartan Debating Club in Risdon Prison, which helped him gain respect and communication skills. Highlighting moments of humor and growth, Tony recounts a harrowing experience in Boggo Road prison and a life-changing revelation while working on a fishing trawler. His bond with his dog, Princess, further symbolizes his path towards a hopeful future.

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Jan 15, 2025 • 51min
Sarah's Most Memorable Guests — Sue Ellen Kusher
Sue Ellen Kusher, daughter of ASIO agents during the Cold War, shares her intriguing upbringing filled with covert operations and espionage. She recounts how her family enlisted her and her siblings to spot unusual behavior and memorize number plates. Fascinating tales emerge about hosting Russian defectors during the Melbourne Olympics and the emotional complexities of living under constant secrecy. Sue Ellen's reflections weave together personal memories and insights into the unique challenges faced by a family entangled in national intelligence.

Jan 14, 2025 • 53min
Sarah's Most Memorable Guests — John Prine
John Prine, the legendary singer-songwriter known for his poignant and observational lyrics, shares his incredible journey from mailman to music icon over five decades. He reflects on the creative process and how family support can inspire artistic pursuits. The discussion also touches on Nashville's transformation and nostalgic memories from his roots in Kentucky. With humor, John recounts a comedic birthday mishap involving a goldfish, all while addressing his personal battles with cancer and the legacy he hopes to leave behind.

Jan 13, 2025 • 51min
Sarah's Most Memorable Guests — Peter Lalor
In this conversation with Peter Lalor, an author renowned for his storytelling, listeners dive into the incredible journey of nine-year-old Lennie Gwyther. In 1932, Lennie rode his horse, Ginger Mick, over 1,000 kilometers to witness the grand opening of the Sydney Harbour Bridge. The chat highlights themes of childhood independence, the challenges of the Great Depression, and the festive atmosphere surrounding this historic event. Lalor also shares insights about Lennie's life and his enduring legacy in Australian history.
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