
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life.
We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss.
Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens.
From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics.
Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna.
Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism.
We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey.
In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness.
We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families.
We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues.
Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians.
A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program.
After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
Latest episodes

Feb 11, 2025 • 51min
Birtles, Brown and Bean: Warren's madcap world tour, in a vintage car
Warren Brown, an author and cartoonist, shares his thrilling experiences recreating Francis Birtles' iconic 1927 car journey from London to Melbourne. He details their challenges through 80 countries in a vintage Bean car, including humorous encounters in Saudi Arabia and navigating the unpredictable climates of Europe. Warren reflects on the stunning landscapes of Egypt, the unexpected fame they gained, and the historical significance of their travels. His anecdotes highlight a captivating blend of adventure, culture, and resilience.

Feb 7, 2025 • 53min
Encore: The making of Nazeem Hussain
Nazeem Hussain, an acclaimed comedian, writer, and actor, dives into his journey from a childhood grappling with bullying to becoming an international comedy sensation. He shares how his mother’s resilience shaped his humor and the impact of his Sri Lankan heritage on his comedy. Nazeem reflects on the challenges of fatherhood, navigating media representation, and the shift in societal attitudes following 9/11. With hilarious anecdotes, he explores the intersection of race, identity, and the joy of making his children laugh.

Feb 6, 2025 • 50min
Drug bazaars, hitmen and hackers — why Eileen went deep into the dark web
Eileen Ormsby, a lawyer turned investigative journalist, dives deep into the dark web's underbelly. She shares her journey from curiosity about The Silk Road to uncovering the shocking realities of drug trafficking and hitman scams. Eileen discusses the structured nature of illicit marketplaces and the complexities of addiction intertwined with law enforcement challenges. Her gripping investigation reveals the dangers of manipulation, as seen in the tragic betrayal of Amy Allwine, while dispelling myths about dark web criminality.

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Feb 5, 2025 • 53min
The family secret that inspired 'The Teacher's Pet'
Hedley Thomas, an award-winning journalist known for his true crime investigations, shares the harrowing story of his grandmother Gladys, who vanished in the 1950s. This personal tragedy fueled his passion for journalism, leading to his acclaimed podcast on Lynne Dawson's mysterious disappearance. Hedley reveals the shooting incident that nearly claimed his life and the emotional aftermath it caused. He reflects on family secrets, the evolution of investigative journalism, and the relentless pursuit of justice for victims of femicide and domestic violence.

Feb 4, 2025 • 44min
Lucinda Light on MAFS, living with ADHD, and her search for love
Lucinda Light, a Reality TV star known for her heartwarming charm on 'Married At First Sight', shares her transformative journey through love and relationships. From running a speed dating company to embracing her creative side, she reflects on the complexities of modern dating and her adventures leading a tour. Lucinda also discusses her experiences with ADHD, her pursuit of authentic connections, and the evolution of her identity after the show. Her upcoming book promises to delve deeper into these themes, making the search for love even more compelling.

Jan 31, 2025 • 52min
Encore: The Toilet Warrior's origin story
Mark Balla, a former Lonely Planet writer turned passionate sanitation advocate, recounts his life-changing encounter with two young men in a Mumbai slum. This meeting ignited his mission to address the dire lack of toilet facilities faced by millions, particularly impacting women and girls. He shares heart-wrenching stories from schools struggling with sanitation issues and illustrates how these challenges intertwine with education and health. Mark's journey has not only earned him the title 'Toilet Warrior' but has galvanized efforts to transform sanitation access worldwide.

Jan 30, 2025 • 53min
The spy who kept secrets for the self-made man
Belinda Probert, author of "Bill's Secrets," uncovers the hidden past of her father, a decorated English war hero. The conversation reveals shocking family secrets about his identity as Roy and his life as a spy for British intelligence post-war. Belinda shares poignant memories of her complex relationship with him and how World War II shaped their family dynamics. They explore themes of classism, identity, and the quiet echoes of war, painting a vivid picture of resilience and transformation in the face of obscured legacies.

Jan 29, 2025 • 50min
Dressing drag queens in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert
Tim Chappel, an Oscar-winning costume designer, shares his fascinating journey from a military childhood to the glitzy world of fashion. He recounts discovering French Vogue at 14, which shifted his focus from botany to costume design. Chappel discusses his early days crafting drag queen outfits and the challenges of creating iconic costumes for 'Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.' He reflects on the film's cultural impact on LGBTQ rights and shares memorable moments from the Oscars, revealing how costumes enhance storytelling and confidence.

Jan 28, 2025 • 53min
Singing as 'sweet relief' — Meg Washington on stuttering, spirituality and song
Meg Washington, an award-winning Australian singer-songwriter, shares her inspiring journey of overcoming a childhood stutter. She reveals how singing transformed from a therapy into a thrilling form of expression. After opening up about her stutter in a TEDx Talk, she discovered new opportunities, such as voicing Calypso in 'Bluey'. Meg also discusses her creative partnership with her husband in adapting Paul Kelly's 'How To Make Gravy' into a film, and the profound role music has played in her life, community, and personal liberation.

Jan 24, 2025 • 53min
Encore: From Yugoslavia to Australia — Jelena Dokic on tennis and the truth
Jelena Dokic, a renowned tennis champion and author, shares her profound journey from being a young refugee to a celebrated athlete. She discusses the dark realities of her childhood, including the abuse she faced from her father during her rise to fame. The conversation delves into confronting body shaming and the challenges of disordered eating under public scrutiny. Jelena also reflects on her growth towards self-acceptance and healing, revealing how past traumas shaped her identity and aspirations in both tennis and life.
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