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Travis Michael Fleming
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Feb 26, 2024 • 51min

#227 | A God-Centered Life In A Self-Centered World with George Marsden

Everywhere we look its about us. How "we" want things, "our" true self, "our" vision of the world, what "we" want, etc. Even algorithms cater to us, giving us more and more of what we want, but is that the secret to happiness? Getting more of what "we" want? There is a better way. By taking the focus off of ourselves and getting our focus back on God, that's not easy. We need some help. Who could help us refocus? How about from "those who are dead and yet still speak"? We need to go back and listen to those voices with God-centered lives: Jonathan Edwards, C.S. Lewis, and Augustine. Today, we welcome one of the greatest living historians of American history, George Marsden, who can help us do just that. Dr. Marsden brings Edwards into the twenty-first century, along with Augustine and C.S. Lewis, he helps us to see how we can reorient our lives in our modern times to be more God-centered and ordered by our loves rather than the algorithms of our modern world. Dr. Marsden is Professor of History Emeritus at the University of Notre Dame, is an influential historian who has written extensively on the interaction between Christianity and American culture, particularly on Christianity in American higher education and on American evangelicalism. He is well known for his biography Jonathan Edwards: A Life. He has authored other books including The Soul of the American University, Religion and American Culture, Fundamentalism and American Culture, and C.S. Lewis’s “Mere Christianity”: A Biography. Marsden studied at Haverford College, Westminster Theological Seminary, and Yale University; he has taught at Calvin University, Duke University, and the University of Notre Dame. Today, we discuss his newest book on Edwards, "An Infinite Fountain of Light: Jonathan Edwards for the Twenty-First Century."Sign up for the Apollos Watered newsletter.Help water-thirsty souls by partnering with Apollos Watered! Takeaways: The exploration of Jonathan Edwards' theological insights offers a profound understanding of authentic Christianity amid contemporary ideological distractions. Dr. George Marsden emphasizes the importance of historical context when interpreting the works of Jonathan Edwards and their relevance today. Edwards' notion of rightly ordered loves serves as a guiding principle for Christians to assess their faith and its impact on their community. Understanding the intersection of Christianity and culture is essential to grasp how faith evolves and influences societal norms over time. The revivalist spirit of the 18th century, exemplified by Edwards, invites a reconsideration of modern evangelical practices and their theological foundations. Marsden articulates the necessity of humility and charity as core virtues within the Christian community, reflecting the true essence of Christ-like love.
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Feb 16, 2024 • 55min

#226 | The Church Between Temple & Mosque | Dan Strange

Where does Christianity stand between Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and the like? How do we build a relationship with those of other religions without losing ourselves in the process? What are the bridges that need to be crossed to lead them to Jesus? What is the mission of the church today? What role does the cultural mandate play? And how can the 20th-century Dutch missiologist, J.H. Bavinck help us understand the mission today so that we can do it both faithfully and fruitfully? What role does contextualization play in communicating that mission? That's what we discussed on today's show!Daniel Strange is the director of Crosslands Forum and the vice president of The Southgate Fellowship. He is one of the inaugural fellows of The Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics and is the author of Their Rock Is Not Like Our Rock: A Theology of Religions (Zondervan, 2015), Plugged In (The Good Book Company, 2019), and Making Faith Magnetic (The Good Book Company, 2021) (the book we are talking about today!) He is a contributing editor for Themelios and an elder of Hope Community Church, Gateshead, U.K., which is part of the Fellowship of Evangelical Churches (FIEC).It's a fantastic, fun, and faith-filled conversation that can help you build a bridge with unbelievers so that they too can know Jesus. This is a must-listen!Check out #177 Daniel Strange, Pt. 1 and #178 Daniel Strange, Pt. 2Sign up for the Apollos Watered newsletter.Help water-thirsty souls by partnering with Apollos Watered!
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Feb 9, 2024 • 48min

#225 | 8 Habits for Reimagining Productivity, Resisting Hurry, and Practicing Peace with Jen Pollock Michel, Pt. 2

Part 2 of our conversation with Jen Pollock Michel as we continue to discuss her book, In Good Time. We are all busy, and have a hard time cultivating the habits that enable both being and doing. If we can't cultivate good habits, we have a harder time fulfilling God's mission. In this episode, Travis and Jenn discuss some of the seven deadly sins, and how our contemporary online lives are often guilty of the sin of vainglory, and our constant scrolling is a form of the ancient sin of acedia. We need to address these sins and cultivate habits that enable godliness. Jen is a writer, speaker, coach, and podcast host. She is the author of five books: A Habit Called Faith, Surprised by Paradox (winner of Christianity Today’s 2020 Award of Merit for Beautiful Orthodoxy), Keeping Place, and Teach Us to Want (winner of Christianity Today’s 2015 Book of the Year). She holds a B.A. in French from Wheaton College, an M.A. in Literature from Northwestern University, and is working to complete an M.F.A from Seattle Pacific University. After eleven years of living in Toronto, Jen now lives in Cincinnati with her husband and two youngest children. You can follow Jen on Twitter and Instagram @jenpmichel, subscribe to her Monday letters at www.jenpollockmichel.com, and listen to episodes of the Englewood Review of Books podcast.Learn more about JenListen to Part 1Sign up for the Apollos Watered email.Help revitalize the church in this moment! Support the ministry of Apollos Watered and transform your world today!
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Feb 2, 2024 • 51min

#224 | 8 Habits for Reimagining Productivity, Resisting Hurry, and Practicing Peace with Jen Pollock Michel, Pt. 1

Are you tired of being tired? Tired of being stressed out? Tired of not getting stuff done? How are those New Year's resolutions coming along? We all can get frustrated and overwhelmed with all the things that need to be done. Every year there is a new guru who pops up to help us do more, but what about "be" more? How can we get done what we need to get done, but resist hurry and practice peace at the same time? Today, we welcome Jen Pollock Michel onto the show to discuss her book, In Good Time. Jen is a writer, speaker, coach, and podcast host. She is the author of five books: A Habit Called Faith, Surprised by Paradox (winner of Christianity Today’s 2020 Award of Merit for Beautiful Orthodoxy), Keeping Place, and Teach Us to Want (winner of Christianity Today’s 2015 Book of the Year). She holds a B.A. in French from Wheaton College, an M.A. in Literature from Northwestern University, and is working to complete an M.F.A from Seattle Pacific University. After eleven years of living in Toronto, Jen now lives in Cincinnati with her husband and her two youngest children. You can follow Jen on Twitter and Instagram @jenpmichel, subscribe to her Monday letters at www.jenpollockmichel.com, and listen to episodes of the Englewood Review of Books podcast.Learn more about JenSign up for the Apollos Watered email.Help revitalize the church in this moment! Support the ministry of Apollos Watered and transform your world today!Takeaways: The conversation emphasizes the importance of reexamining our relationship with time in order to avoid the pitfalls of modern productivity culture, which often views individuals as mere machines. Jen Pollock Michel's book, 'In Good Time', introduces eight habits designed to help individuals resist the impulse to hurry and embrace a more peaceful approach to productivity. The podcast discusses the notion that time management, as understood today, has been co-opted by modern assumptions, detracting from its original biblical intent of redeeming time. The hosts reflect on the societal pressures that lead individuals to feel excessively busy, often at the expense of meaningful relationships and spiritual growth. A significant theme of the episode is the concept of belonging and how our relationships with others are fundamental to living out our faith amidst the chaos of contemporary life. The discussion also touches on the alarming conditions faced by workers in modern corporations like Amazon, which serve as a metaphor for broader societal issues concerning human dignity and productivity.
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Jan 26, 2024 • 1h

Navigating the Chaos: Dr. Albert Mohler on the Future of Faith and Culture

Travis Michael Fleming engages in a thought-provoking dialogue with Dr. Albert Mohler, a prominent figure in evangelical thought and the current president of Southern Seminary. The conversation traverses a wide array of topics, primarily focusing on the evolving landscape of Christianity and the challenges faced by the church today. Mohler reflects on the significant cultural shifts impacting the church, particularly the recent phenomenon termed the 'great dechurching,' where millions are leaving traditional church settings. He provides a nuanced perspective, arguing that this trend is not entirely surprising, given the historical trajectory of secularization in society. Both Fleming and Mohler explore the implications of these changes, emphasizing the need for a robust Christian cultural identity that stands in contrast to the prevailing secular norms, advocating for a gospel that is not only preached but lived fully in every aspect of life. They also tackle the topic of political engagement for Christians, especially during an election cycle characterized by division and moral complexity. Mohler asserts that while Christians must take a stand on social issues such as abortion and marriage, they should do so with a spirit of humility and a clear understanding of the gospel's transformative power. The discussion is rich with historical context, drawing on past theological insights to inform current practices, and highlights the importance of establishing vibrant, convictional communities that reflect the teachings of Christ. Mohler's insights serve as both a warning and a call to action for believers navigating the tumultuous waters of modernity, urging them to embrace their faith with courage and conviction while engaging meaningfully with a world that is increasingly hostile to traditional values.Takeaways: Dr. Albert Mohler emphasizes the importance of a thick Christian culture that transcends contemporary cultural norms. The decline of church attendance reflects a loss of cultural convenience rather than conviction. Engaging in the political arena is necessary for Christians, but we must maintain integrity. The church must focus on translating the gospel into every culture while retaining its essence. Mohler argues for the necessity of Christianity in supporting liberal democracy and human dignity. Christians should not fear societal decline but rather engage with renewed commitment to faith. Learn more about Dr. Mohler, his program The Briefing, and The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.Sign up for the Apollos Watered email.Help revitalize the church in this moment! Support the ministry of Apollos Watered and transform your world today!
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Jan 19, 2024 • 53min

#222 | Is Politics Killing Evangelicalism? Pt. 2 with Pete Wehner

Can our Lord be seen by our politics? What do our politics say about us? Is the message of Jesus communicated in it? What about the way of Jesus? How is our Christian witness being affected by our politics? Do the means we employ reveal the message we believe? What happens if we focus on the message but miss the means? Listen in as Travis and Pete continue their conversation on politics in evangelicalism. Travis welcomes special guest Pete Wehner to the show today. Pete is a Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum, a writer and thinker who served in the Reagan administration and both Bush presidencies including as head of the office for strategic initiatives. He has written three books and has written for many publications, recently for The Atlantic and the NY Times. I met Pete at a symposium and found him to be a thoughtful and insightful voice in evangelicalism and into evangelicals' political involvement. He is a committed Christian, a political insider, and a voice needed for this moment. Sign up for the Apollos Watered email.Help revitalize the church in this moment! Support the ministry of Apollos Watered and transform your world today!Takeaways: The healing of a country fundamentally relies on the healing of individual lives, emphasizing personal relationships. As Christians, it is imperative to engage with those who differ in opinion, fostering understanding and compassion rather than viewing them as mere political adversaries. Political engagement should reflect our identity as Christians, prioritizing our faith over partisanship and political gain. The Christian witness is severely compromised when political actions contradict the core tenets of love and unity emphasized by Jesus. Building genuine relationships and understanding others' stories is essential for reducing divisions within the church and society at large. In politically charged climates, Christians are called to embody the values of patience and compassion, reflecting Christ's teachings in all interactions.
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Jan 13, 2024 • 1h 3min

#221 | Is Politics Killing Evangelicalism? Pt 1 with Pete Wehner

Is our political focus, which we believe is for the greater good, actually doing the opposite for the Christian witness today? How do we maintain our integrity in the midst of political compromise? Is there a third way? Should we focus on the lesser of two evils? What happens if we continue to do that? Travis welcomes special guest Pete Wehner to the show today. Pete is a Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum, a writer and thinker who served in the Reagan administration and both Bush presidencies including as head of the office for strategic initiatives. He has written three books and has written for many publications, recently for The Atlantic and the NY Times. I met Pete at a symposium and found him to be a thoughtful and insightful voice in evangelicalism and into evangelicals' political involvement. He is a committed Christian, a political insider, and a voice needed for this moment. Episodes featured in today's show: Misreading Scripture with Individualist Eyes by Randy Richards. Sign up for the Apollos Watered email.Help revitalize the church in this moment! Support the ministry of Apollos Watered and transform your world today!Takeaways: The healing of a nation fundamentally relies on the healing of individual lives, emphasizing personal transformation. Engaging with differing perspectives within one’s community fosters understanding and deepens relationships, transcending mere political discourse. The political landscape today poses significant challenges for communities of faith, often resulting in division among congregants and families. Christians must navigate the complexities of political engagement while maintaining their commitment to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Many church leaders express a desire to avoid political discussions to focus solely on spiritual matters, yet they must confront the realities of their congregants' beliefs. The approach to politics among Christians should be characterized by integrity, empathy, and a commitment to truth, rather than divisive rhetoric.
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Dec 29, 2023 • 40min

#220 | Reflections on 2023

Travis and Kevin reflect on their favorite episodes and books for 2023 and give a vision for Apollos Watered moving forward to help you water your world!Sign up for the Apollos Watered email.Help revitalize churches by supporting Apollos Watered!
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Dec 16, 2023 • 22min

#219 | The Christmas Story

Listen in as many of the guests from Apollos Watered over this past year read the Christmas story. Merry Christmas!Sign up for the Apollos Watered email.Help revitalize churches by supporting Apollos Watered!
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Dec 8, 2023 • 47min

#218 | Hope for American Evangelicals with Matthew Bennett, Pt. 2

Where is their idolatry in the evangelical church today? What idolatries have we smuggled into the church? How do we handle this? What will happen if we don't? How do we reach our crazy post-everything world today? Is there anyone we can turn to? Is there a person who can give us clarity? Is there a different perspective that we have to consider? In this second conversation with professor and former missionary, Matthew Bennett, they continue to discuss his book, Hope for American Evangelicals. Using Lesslie Newbigin as a guide, Matthew takes a missionary perspective to help us look at the American evangelical house and what needs to be done to remodel it by removing the rot and enhancing the good. Travis and Matthew discuss evangelicalism, missions, contextualization, multi-ethnic ministry, sexual ethics and so much more. It's a conversation to help you find the connecting points to reach your world with the glorious news of Jesus. Check out part 1 of the conversation or Reaching and Teaching Ministries International.Sign up for the Apollos Watered email.Help revitalize the church in this moment! Support the ministry of Apollos Watered and transform your world today!

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