

Talking Tokens
Jacquelyn Melinek, Token Relations
Talking Tokens is a podcast focused on interviewing the best crypto leaders, startups, market players and up-and-coming founders that are changing the industry.
Join Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated host and seasoned crypto journalist-turned-entrepreneur, to dive into the best talks in crypto in an easy-to-understand way.
The episodes will air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
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Join Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated host and seasoned crypto journalist-turned-entrepreneur, to dive into the best talks in crypto in an easy-to-understand way.
The episodes will air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
For more updates, subscribe to the Talking Tokens newsletter here: https://talkingtokens.beehiiv.com/
Follow us on X: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokens
Episodes
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Mar 4, 2025 • 44min
The Future of Aptos: Ecosystem Scaling, Stablecoins & DeFi
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Ash Pampati, head of ecosystem at Aptos. They discuss Ash’s core principles for growth, how he looks at scaling Aptos’ ecosystem, tapping into existing web3 users versus non-web3 native users and institutions, expanding DeFi and stablecoins on the network and more.======================Follow Ash: https://x.com/ASHAWONNFollow Aptos: https://x.com/aptosFollow Jacquelyn: https://twitter.com/jacqmelinekFollow Talking Tokens: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokensFollow Token Relations: https://twitter.com/Token_Relations======================Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ?si=9a9fda1d29224d57&nd=1&dlsiSubscribe to the podcast on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens=======================Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Feb 27, 2025 • 54min
Hart Lambur & Nam Chu Hoa | Fixing Ethereum’s Interoperability with Open Intents Framework
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Hart Lambur, co-founder of Across Protocol, and Nam Chu Hoai, the co-founder of Hyperlane. We dive into The Open Intents Framework, which is bringing intents to Ethereum and improving the ecosystem’s interoperability. We also discuss its key features, how it will scale Ethereum and make better UX for users.=====================- Follow Hart: https://x.com/hal2001?lang=en- Follow Nam: https://x.com/nambrot/- Follow Across: https://x.com/AcrossProtocol- Follow Hyperlane: https://x.com/hyperlane- Follow Jacquelyn: https://twitter.com/jacqmelinek- Follow Talking Tokens: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokens- Follow Token Relations: https://twitter.com/Token_Relations======================Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ?si=9a9fda1d29224d57&nd=1&dlsiSubscribe to the podcast on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens=======================Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Feb 24, 2025 • 44min
Xin Yan | The Truth About Memecoins: Hype, Celebrity Launches & More
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Xin Yan, CEO and co-founder of Sign. Sign is a token-distribution platform backed by former Binance CEO CZ, among other investors, and has powered over $4 billion in token airdrops and unlocks across 40 million users. They discuss the state of memecoins, token launches, pump and dump schemes, what is going on with celebrity and government officials launching their own coins, the future of trust, verification and more.======================Follow Xin: https://x.com/realyanxinFollow Sign: https://x.com/signFollow Jacquelyn: https://twitter.com/jacqmelinekFollow Talking Tokens: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokensFollow Token Relations: https://twitter.com/Token_Relations======================Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ?si=9a9fda1d29224d57&nd=1&dlsiSubscribe to the podcast on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens=======================Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Feb 20, 2025 • 50min
Bhaji Illuminati | What Asset Managers and Investors Want to Tokenize
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Bhaji Illuminati, the new CEO – formerly CMO – of Centrifuge. The platform is focused on providing onchain finance to asset managers and investors through tokenized financial products. We talk about the company’s leadership changes and 2025 strategy to bring asset managers onchain, what investors want from tokenized products and RWAs and more.======================Follow Bhaji: https://x.com/itsbhajiFollow Centrifuge: https://x.com/centrifugeFollow Jacquelyn: https://twitter.com/jacqmelinekFollow Talking Tokens: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokensFollow Token Relations: https://twitter.com/Token_Relations======================Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ?si=9a9fda1d29224d57&nd=1&dlsiSubscribe to the podcast on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens=======================Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Feb 18, 2025 • 42min
Humayun Sheikh | How AI Agents Will Transform Crypto
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Humayun Sheikh, CEO and founder of FetchAI. They discuss the general crypto x AI landscape, recent surges of interest in AI agents, what’s possible with the technologies, how anyone can build an app with AI in 10 minutes and more.======================Follow Humayun: https://x.com/HMsheikh4Follow FetchAI: https://x.com/Fetch_aiFollow Jacquelyn: https://twitter.com/jacqmelinekFollow Talking Tokens: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokensFollow Token Relations: https://twitter.com/Token_Relations======================Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ?si=9a9fda1d29224d57&nd=1&dlsiSubscribe to the podcast on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens=======================Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Feb 13, 2025 • 41min
Luca Netz | The Genius Marketing Behind Pudgy Penguins
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Luca Netz, CEO of Pudgy Penguins. They discuss why he diversified Pudgy Penguins into a business bigger than NFTs, the recent launch of Abstract Chain and how it wants to make consumer apps fun, creating brand awareness and more.======================Follow Luca: https://x.com/LucaNetzFollow Pudgy Penguins: https://x.com/pudgypenguinsFollow Jacquelyn: https://twitter.com/jacqmelinekFollow Talking Tokens: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokensFollow Token Relations: https://twitter.com/Token_Relations======================Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ?si=9a9fda1d29224d57&nd=1&dlsiSubscribe to the podcast on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens=======================Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Feb 11, 2025 • 46min
Rachel Conlan | Binance CMO Shares Plan To 4X Its Users To 1 Billion
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Rachel Conlan, Binance CMO. They discuss her role in growing the world’s largest crypto exchange, marketing the platform to 250 million users, its growth plans to grow to 1 billion users, what it takes to build a strong community and more.=======================Follow Rachel: https://x.com/rachelconlanFollow Binance: https://x.com/BinanceFollow Jacquelyn: https://twitter.com/jacqmelinekFollow Talking Tokens: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokensFollow Token Relations: https://twitter.com/Token_Relations======================Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ?si=9a9fda1d29224d57&nd=1&dlsiSubscribe to the podcast on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens=======================Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Feb 6, 2025 • 57min
Tom Schmidt | How Smart Money is Investing in Crypto Right Now
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital. Tom came on the show in August 2024 and has joined us again for a refresher on the state of crypto VCs, how investors are positioned in the market right now, what he’s interested in, investing in, his opinions on the Ethereum Foundation, L2 chains, $TRUMP and more.
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Feb 4, 2025 • 52min
Eric Chen & Mirza Uddin | Injective Is Changing The Game For DeFi
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Injective Labs Co-Founder, CEO Eric Chen, and Head of BD Mirza Uddin. They discuss Injective’s plans to democratize finance onchain, bringing DeFi to institutional investors, its progress on the AI front and what the Helix AI Indices means for investors. They also dive into Injective’s new rebrand and plans to integrate EVM support to expand the chain into the Ethereum ecosystem.
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Jan 30, 2025 • 53min
Jack Melnick | Explaining Berachain's Big Bet on Proof of Liquidity
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Jack Melnick, also known as Cap'n Jack Bearow, the head of DeFi at Berachain. They talk about the importance of building a community, why anonymity can be important, his DeFi strategy for Berachain, the chain’s mainnet launch plans, the state of L1 blockchains in 2025 and more.
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