
Owning the Outcome
Owning the Outcome is a podcast about the bold bets, hard lessons, and breakthrough moments that define success in the HubSpot ecosystem. Hosted by Sarah McDevitt, HubSpot’s Sr. Director of Partner Strategy, each episode dives into real conversations with the leaders rewriting the rules in an AI-first world—and owning their share of a $30B opportunity along the way.
Latest episodes

Jul 2, 2025 • 22min
From Loss Leaders to 1M Contacts: One Partner’s Journey
Fabian Valado, General Manager at BFJ, has done it all—sold at a loss just to get experience, taught clients how to buy, and scaled his agency into working with customers in the 500k—1M contact range by staying relentlessly focused on outcomes.
In this episode of Owning the Outcome, Fabian talks candidly about what it takes to grow from small partner to enterprise-ready seller. He gets into how to win over IT blockers in healthcare, why 50% of the job is customer service and teaching, and what he considers the bar for excellence as a HubSpot partner.
If you’re a partner looking to scale, navigate complex sales, or just want a front-row seat to how technical operators win in the age of AI—this one’s for you.

Jun 25, 2025 • 22min
The Enterprise Shift: Building AI Value Without the Buzzwords
"You have to think of AI as not just tech. It's a strategic capability that all team should have and understand—especially CEOs." In this episode of Owning the Outcome, Jeff Pedowitz, founder and CEO of The Pedowitz Group, talks about what it takes to drive transformation for enterprise clients in the age of AI. With over a decade of experience helping large organizations modernize how they grow, Jeff shares how his team approaches AI, data quality, and strategy with clarity, pragmatism, and a consultant’s edge.
Jeff opens up about his leadership philosophy, the cultural values that drive his firm, and why he doubled down on HubSpot just as the platform made major strides into the enterprise space. He explains why many companies still hesitate to adopt AI—even as they acknowledge its importance—and outlines the essential first steps CEOs can take to bring AI into their business models.

Jun 18, 2025 • 27min
No Shortcuts: How BONANA Earned HubSpot’s Customer-First Award in Under 2 Years
Jasey Tielen, co-founder of BONANA, established a successful tech partnership that earned HubSpot's Customer-First Award in just under two years. In the discussion, Jasey highlights the importance of being a trusted advisor and how to build that trust without relying on flashy hacks. He elaborates on why service firms are ideally positioned to lead the transition to AI, emphasizing a strategy that balances short-term needs with long-term vision. This conversation offers valuable insights for navigating the complexities of modern business growth in the digital age.

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Jun 13, 2025 • 24min
Winning in the AI Era: Yamini Rangan on the Power of Partners + AI
Yamini Rangan, CEO of HubSpot, shares her insights on leading transformative tech changes. She discusses the synergy between AI and human expertise, emphasizing how their collaboration can drive innovation. Rangan highlights AI as a force multiplier for teams, particularly in content marketing, making it easier for smaller groups to excel. The importance of relational intelligence in customer engagement is underscored, showing how emotional awareness enhances interactions. The conversation also touches on the competitive edge of companies embracing AI innovation.

Jun 4, 2025 • 22min
From Data to Dialogue: Building Trust with AI in the Front Office
You have questions, Sam Anderson—CEO of Origin 63—has answers. And now, so does Customer Agent. In this episode, Sarah and Sam talk trust, handoffs, and what it really takes to make AI work alongside humans. And, they get into all the details on how to use AI to unify unstructured data, activate knowledge bases, and build always-on assistants that support teams across the front office.

May 28, 2025 • 21min
The Anti-Niche Strategy That Won Global Partner of the Year
Daryn Smith, CEO of Huble, shares how his team became HubSpot’s 2024 Global Partner of the Year—not by verticalising, but by chasing complexity. From early SMB roots to winning multinationals, Daryn explains why global reach, process re-engineering, and strategic patience are the new currency of scale. He also unpacks their shift to value-based pricing and how AI is reshaping—not replacing—their services.

May 21, 2025 • 3min
What to Expect From Owning The Outcome
Get ready for Owning The Outcome, a podcast that unpacks how HubSpot’s most successful partners are leading with AI and owning the outcome in this new era.

Dec 6, 2023 • 43min
Accelerating Growth with Category, Industry, and Platform Specialization
Adi Jagannathan, the CEO and co-founder of OpenFlow, joins the show to talk about OpenFlow's journey from being a CRM software and industry agnostic firm to deeply specializing in the cannabis and dispensary industry. Adi shares the challenges he faced while operating agnostically, the evolution of his agency’s business model, and how his category specialization (RevOps), industry specialization (cannabis), and software specialization (HubSpot) came to be. He also shares the unique opportunities that are present within the cannabis industry—especially around CRM, customer platforms, and the power of integrating dispensary point of sale data with customer data.

Nov 29, 2023 • 40min
Prospecting & Lead Generation Tactics That Work for 2024
Lara Triozzi, CEO of Market Launcher, and Terri-Lynne Anderson, Sales Manager, dive deep into the evolving landscape of B2B prospecting. They discuss the shift from quantity to quality in outreach, highlighting personalized strategies that resonate with potential buyers. The duo emphasizes the importance of understanding industry nuances and effective messaging to engage decision-makers. They also explore the synergy of AI in sales while stressing the necessity of human connection in complex sales situations. Tune in for actionable insights!

Nov 15, 2023 • 39min
Parental Leave Planning & Continuity in the Client Experience
Angela Pointon, President of 11 out of 11, joins the show to talk about employee extended leave—and offers tips on how you can plan for things like parental leave without destroying your P&L or the client experience. Angela walks us through her approach staff-wise, how she manages a mix of both full-time and contract employees to maintain flexibility, and when, where, and how redundancies and coverage models are established. We also talk about how it’s handled on the client-side—how they’re made aware, how the transition is positioned, and how Angela’s team mitigates any client concerns or reservations. Lastly, apart from staffing, we hit on the other operational measures and processes she’s put into place to ensure continuous service delivery.