
The Product Science Podcast
The Product Science Podcast is for startup founders and product leaders building high-growth products, teams, and companies. Listen in on real conversations with the people who have tried it and aren’t afraid to share the lessons they’ve learned (and the mistakes they’ve made) along the way.
Latest episodes

Feb 4, 2020 • 58min
The Allison Cassing Hypothesis: When You Follow Your Interests, Your Work Will Be More Enjoyable
Allison Cassing is the User Researcher for the H2R Product Science Team. She brings with her years of product management experience focused on data and insights. She has a deep interest in user experience and motivation. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about what Allison’s learned over the course of her career in product management and user research, and how to make sure you’re focused on the right questions.
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Jan 28, 2020 • 43min
The Audrey Crane Hypothesis: If You Don't Hire Enough Designers, You Don't Get No Design, You Get Bad Design
Since 2010, Audrey Crane has been a Partner at DesignMap, a strategic product design agency that helps ambitious enterprise software companies. She loves figuring out how to make helping people good business at places like Docker, Salesforce, and eBay. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about Audrey's new book, What CEOs Need to Know About Design, and the changes organizations need to make in how they think about design.
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Jan 21, 2020 • 54min
The Mary Wharmby Hypothesis: Transformation in Large Organizations Starts with Creating a Common Language of Innovation
Mary Wharmby is a designer and educator with 20 years of experience guiding teams in the creation of both customer-facing products and services and employee-facing tools and systems. She is the former Head of Design Transformation at the global bank, BBVA, where she architected and led a team dedicated to driving innovation by strategically infusing design across the entire organization. Mary is currently founder of the challenger consultancy, Design Transformation, helping organizations be more innovative.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about how Mary helped create a process transformation class that could affect big changes in a large, multinational organization.
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Jan 14, 2020 • 55min
The Matt Wallaert Hypothesis: Great Product Teams Use Behavioral Science to Build Products That Create Change
Matt Wallaert is a behavioral scientist working at the intersection of technology and human behavior. He headed product at two successful startups, then Microsoft and Microsoft Ventures, and is now the Chief Behavioral Officer at Clover and author of Start at the End: How to build products that create change, with a slate of pro-social side projects including GetRaised, SalaryOrEquity, and IAskedHer. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about how Matt gets his team to focus on the behavior they’re trying to change, and his unique research process.
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Jan 7, 2020 • 41min
The Heather Browning Hypothesis: Great Product Design Can Make Healthy Behaviors Easier
Heather Browning is VP of Product at Ria Health, which has an innovative program that enables people to reduce their drinking. Heather is a growth product leader with a background in game design, cognitive psychology, and behavioral economics. She uses this expertise to build products aimed at sustained behavior change with a focus on improving engagement and retention. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about how building products that drive behavior doesn’t work if you don’t frame it the right way.
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Dec 17, 2019 • 48min
The Dan Melinger Hypothesis: Product-Led Growth Leaders Align Companies and Teams on the Fundamentals
Dan Melinger has led the development of disruptive products in broadcast and social media, gaming, education, and commerce. His consultancy, Realtime Lab, works with companies and projects of all stages. Previously, Dan served as VP Product at FanDuel, where he developed the company’s newest games. He’s also started product companies Socialight and Edco. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about how he’s navigated the transition between the early-growth stage to building teams out to have what it takes to succeed in the long run.
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Dec 10, 2019 • 46min
The Joe Lalley Hypothesis: Successful Product Leaders Transfer the Excitement Around a Problem from the Team to the Stakeholders
Joe Lalley is the Experience Design Leader in Digital Transformation at PriceWaterhouse Coopers, where he helps people and teams solve problems through the process of design. To make this happen, he designs and facilitates workshops, meetings, and design sprints to help teams take a user-centric approach to their business challenges. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about how Joe changes how teams work across PWC, and his surprising tricks for getting the most out of your meetings.
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Dec 3, 2019 • 52min
The David Bland Hypothesis: Assumption Mapping Before Testing Business Ideas Facilitates Better Product Decisions
David Bland is the founder of Precoil and the co-author of the new book, Testing Business Ideas. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about how important it is to get cross-functional teams to agree on the assumptions that must be true for your business to succeed and discuss different approaches to testing the assumptions.
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Nov 19, 2019 • 46min
The Dan Mason Hypothesis: Great Product Leaders Focus on Moving the Ball Forward
Dan Mason is a veteran Head of Product, coach and consultant based in NY who works with teams of all stages to develop great product managers and drive great outcomes, drawing on years of experience at organizations big and small, including ESPN, People Magazine, and Shutterstock. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about how to take a pragmatic approach to product development in order to make sure you’re bridging the gap between an ideal product process and the realities of the organization you’re working in.
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Nov 12, 2019 • 49min
The Ben Foster Hypothesis: High-Growth Product Leaders Set a Clear Vision and Push Authority Down to the Teams
Ben Foster is the Chief of Product at GoCanvas and the founder of Prodify, a product management consultancy. In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we talk about Ben’s journey in product management from the early days of the dotcom bubble to where he thinks the industry is headed today, and what he looks for when he’s interviewing for a new position.
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