
The Product Science Podcast
The Product Science Podcast is for startup founders and product leaders building high-growth products, teams, and companies. Listen in on real conversations with the people who have tried it and aren’t afraid to share the lessons they’ve learned (and the mistakes they’ve made) along the way.
Latest episodes

Feb 21, 2023 • 41min
The Lisa Marie Zane Hypothesis: Conscious Product Development is Building a Better Future For Tech
Lisa is the Founder of Conscious Product Development. Her purpose is to help product teams solve the right problems for the right reasons and develop products (and careers) more consciously - in ways that are inclusive, holistic, ethical, accessible, and sustainable - and that makes people's lives measurably better. She previously worked at Google, several wearable tech startups, and with Bauer Hockey's stick development team. She is also a three time national hockey champion.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover Lisa’s philosophy of Conscious Product Development, and how her personal life helped guide towards wanting to solve problems in a more compassionate way.
Read the show notes to learn more: www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-lisa-marie-zane-hypothesis-conscious-product-development-is-building-a-better-future-for-tech

Feb 14, 2023 • 37min
The Shane Zilinskas Hypothesis: User Research and Empathy Drive Products From 0 to 1
Shane Zilinskas has worked on many product launches for companies ranging from startups to Fortune 500. He started off as an engineer before finding his way to product management, when a book and a one-way ticket to Europe led him, together with his wife Kara McGehee, to build ClearSummit, an agency that has helped 100s of companies take their products from 0 to 1.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover how Dan got started in tech, why he built an agency of his own, and how they practice product discovery.
Read the show notes to learn more:
www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-shane-zilinskas-hypothesis-user-research-and-empathy-drive-products-from-0-to-1

Feb 7, 2023 • 37min
The Christina Xu Hypothesis: Accessibility is a Critical Aspect of Product Design
Christina is a product manager at Slack, focused primarily on improving the accessibility of both Slack and Quip (the collaboration tool, not the toothbrush company!) for people with disabilities.Previously to working in product, Christina was an ethnographer focused on how people incorporate technology into their lives, with over a decade of experience in observing and orchestrating social interactions on the internet and in offline subcultural spaces in China and the U.S.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover how Christina’s team makes sure that accessibiilty needs at Slack are addressed and how we can help the industry do more for disabled users.
Read the show notes to learn more:
URL: www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-christina-xu-hypothesis-accessibility-is-a-critical-aspect-of-product-design

Jan 31, 2023 • 39min
The Jason Keramidas Hypothesis: With Enterprise Products, the Sales Team is Your Biggest Asset
Jason Keramidas is always thinking about how to build products that will make people’s lives better. He has over 25 years experience working with a range of companies from early stage startups to driving growth at public companies. He lives just north of NYC with his wife and two children.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover Jason’s early days in product management, what is different about product in B2B, why Jason argues that the sales team is your greatest asset, and what his experience at a nonprofit was like.
Read the show notes to learn more:
www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-jason-keramidas-hypothesis-with-enterprise-products-the-sales-team-is-your-biggest-asset

Jan 24, 2023 • 34min
The Tosin Onibon-oje Hypothesis: Kindness is a Strength for Product Managers
Tosin Onibon-oje is a highly skilled Product Lead with 15 years of experience in the industry. She is customer-focused and outcome-driven, with a proven track record of leading cross-functional teams in developing and launching innovative and successful products. She is an effective communicator who excels at building strong relationships with stakeholders at all levels. Additionally, Tosin is passionate about fostering kindness and a human-centered culture in the workplace.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover how Tosin has experienced product management both outside and inside the software world, how to utilize kindness and empathy to be strong product leader, and how to balance business and human needs fairly at the workplace.
Read the show notes to learn more:
www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-tosin-onibon-oje-hypothesis-kindness-is-a-strength-for-product-managers

Jan 17, 2023 • 40min
The Jackie Bavaro Hypothesis: Cracking the PM Career Means Leading With The Right Questions
Jackie Bavaro has over 15 years of product management experience, most recently as Head of PM at Asana. During her tenure, she grew the PM team to over twenty people, helped Asana's go from 0 to more than $100 million in annual recurring revenue, and launched Asana's associate product manager program. She has worked as a PM for Google and Microsoft as well, and in a diverse set of PM roles—consumer, B2B, platform, mobile, and growth. She has been a manager and manager of managers. She has written two books: Cracking the PM Interview and Cracking the PM Career. You can find her on Twitter at https://twitter.com/jackiebo and substack at https://jackiebavaro.substack.com/.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover why Jackie wrote books about PM interviews and careers, how product organizations evolve as a company grows, and what great product leadership looks like.
Read the show notes to learn more: www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-jackie-bavaro-hypothesis-cracking-the-pm-career-means-leading-with-the-right-questions

Jan 10, 2023 • 42min
The Dan Balcauski Hypothesis: The Most Important Part of Product Pricing is Who and How you Charge
Dan Balcauski is the founder and Chief Pricing Officer at Product Tranquility, based in Austin, TX. He focuses on helping high-volume B2B SaaS CEOs define pricing and packaging for new products. Over his career, he has worked in both B2C and B2B companies ranging from startups to publicly traded enterprises.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover Dan’s SVCS model for working through pricing and packaging, how to figure out what different customers value, and how to use the 3 common pricing orientations.
Read the show notes to learn more: www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-dan-balcauski-hypothesis-the-most-important-part-of-product-pricing-is-who-and-how-you-charge

Jan 3, 2023 • 40min
The Navya Rehani Gupta Hypothesis: CPOs Should Measure Product ROI in Business Outcomes
Navya is the Chief Product Officer at Peek.com, responsible for scaling the industry-leading Peek Pro platform, known as "Shopify for the Experiences economy" with $2B+ bookings. Peek.com helps consumers book fun activities (such as boat rentals and cooking classes), and provides experience operators with powerful software tools to grow their businesses. Prior to Peek, Navya built new business lines at StyleSeat, the world’s largest marketplace for beauty services that has fueled billions of dollars in beauty services. She has also managed large-scale products at Uber, Disney and Goldman Sachs. Navya holds an Electronics Engineering degree from University of Sheffield, UK, a Masters in Computer Science from Stanford and a MBA from NYU Stern.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover the major inflection points in Navya’s journey to CPO, how Navya talks about the ROI of product investments, and how she chooses the key KPIs and assumptions that she uses to model ROI.
Read the show notes to learn more: www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-navya-rehani-gupta-hypothesis-cpos-should-measure-product-roi-in-business-outcomes

Dec 27, 2022 • 42min
The 2nd Adam Thomas Hypothesis: Survival Metrics Guide Profitable Products that Matter to People
What can we learn by following our curiosity, embracing the unknown, and creating amidst chaos? This is the question that propels Adam Thomas’s career as a technologist, product expert, and all-around thinker and creator. His answer so far? We can learn that our potential is limitless and we have an amazing array of options for living, working, and playing better.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover what led Adam to develop Survival Metrics, what they are, and how to use them.
Read the show notes to learn more: www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-2nd-adam-thomas-hypothesis-survival-metrics-guide-profitable-products-that-matter-to-people

Dec 20, 2022 • 43min
The JH Forster Hypothesis: The First Product Hire at a Startup Needs to Be a Player-Coach
JH Forster is a product leader with deep experience helping teams ship solutions for real user needs. As SVP of Product at User Interviews, he oversees the Product Management and Design departments—and geeks out about all things user research as the co-host of the Awkward Silences podcast.
In this episode of the Product Science Podcast, we cover how he found a job as the first product hire at a startup and what challenges he’s faced as the team and company have grown.
Read the show notes to learn more: www.h2rproductscience.com/post/the-jh-forster-hypothesis-the-first-product-hire-at-a-startup-needs-to-be-a-player-coach