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The Startup Playbook Podcast
Every week, I interview successful entrepreneurs, investors and business industry experts on how they got started, the strategies they used to succeed and their advice to current and future entrepreneurs
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Jul 17, 2025 • 59min
Ep216 – Chris Withers (Founder & CEO – Klikit) on lessons from Uber & Gojek, beating cancer & solving hard problems
My guest for Ep216 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Chris Withers.
This week marks 9 years of The Startup Playbook Podcast.
What started as a side project in 2015 has now become a platform that’s shared the stories of 200+ founders, investors, and operators — and I’m so grateful to all of you who’ve tuned in, shared episodes, and supported the show along the way.
To mark the milestone, I couldn’t have asked for a better guest than Chris Withers, the Founder & CEO of Klikit, a platform helping merchants grow revenue, cut costs, and streamline operations through a powerful all-in-one operating system.
Before founding Klikit, Chris was part of the early Uber team in Australia & NZ, helped scale Uber Eats across Asia, and later became VP of Global Mobility at GoJek, giving him a front-row seat to some of the world’s most intense high-growth environments.
Chris is also someone I’ve personally backed through Playbook Ventures. Beyond the complexity of building in Southeast Asia, what’s inspired me most is his resilience, including his fight through a cancer diagnosis just months after raising capital as a solo founder.
In this episode, we dive into:
The high performance cultures at Uber and Gojek and what Chris took away from each
Why hard problems are worth solving
His battle with cancer and what it taught him about leadership, health, and grit
The realities and misconceptions about the Southeast Asian market
And much more!
Timestamps:
00:02:15 Chris’ background, accidental entry into Uber via a “mechanics yard” interview in Brisbane
00:04:26 Jumping to Uber Eats APAC: contrarian career move that paid off
00:07:10 Chris explains “second-order thinking” and calculated risk-taking
00:11:56 Lessons from Uber 1.0’s boundary-pushing culture of ownership
00:15:00 Inside Gojek: mission, patriotism and Nadiem Makarim’s “Pasti Ada Jalan” mantra
00:20:21 Genesis of klikit: running six virtual brands in one kitchen to test a thesis
00:24:58 Building the “pipes and rails” before the creator-commerce vision
00:29:51 Shipping fast and moving with speed
00:33:24 Going multi-region early; why Southeast Asia forces breadth and depth
00:38:26 Facing cancer diagnosis while running a venture backed startup
00:56:04 eFishery fraud fallout and Chris’s plea not to write off Asian tech
Our partners:
A big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club: The world’s first human accelerator
Chris’ links:
Chris on LinkedIn
Klikit
People mentioned:
Travis Kalanick
Paul Santos
Nadiem Makarim
Daniel Kahneman – Thinking Fast & Slow
Jeff Bezos
Ray Kroc
Ben Dunphy
Companies mentioned:
Uber
UberEats
Gojek
Grab
Playbook Ventures
TikTok Shop
Shopee
Lazada
Amazon
Google
MrBeast Burger
eFishery
Wavemaker
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
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Jul 10, 2025 • 45min
Ep215 – Ben Dunphy (Co-founder & Partner – January Capital) on data-driven VC & leveraging both equity & credit for growth
My guest for Ep215 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Ben Dunphy.
Ben is the Co-Founder and Partner of January Capital, a VC fund that invests in early stage high growth startups in the Asia Pacific region. They also run an $85M growth credit fund, offering scale-stage companies access to non-dilutive capital.
I first had Ben on the show back in October 2016 and nearly a decade later, we revisit the journey and dive into:
What’s changed and what hasn’t in early stage investing
How January Capital is bridging the gap between equity and debt-based financing in an innovative model
The opportunities in Southeast Asia
And much more!
Timestamps:
00:01:17 Ben’s background: Australia-born, now leading January Capital in Singapore
00:03:16 What’s remained constant vs. what’s changed in nine years of APAC venture
00:05:26 Proving billion-dollar outcomes outside Silicon Valley and the AI paradigm shift
00:09:03 Founding January Capital: spotting gaps and launching with three partners
00:12:41 Why (and when) startups should diversify into credit alongside equity
00:19:21 Misconceptions about “one big Southeast Asia market” and the B2B focus
00:24:07 January’s data-driven deal-sourcing engine and composite talent scoring
00:27:53 Signals of exceptional founders
00:31:00 Advice on timing investor outreach and the benefits of month-long rapport-building
00:39:04 Case study: William Li’s whiteboard pitch for Akulaku and the power of clarity
Our partners:
Also a big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club: The world’s first human accelerator
Ben’s links:
Ben on LinkedIn
January Capital
People mentioned:
Jonathan Hodson
Jason Edwards
William Li
Companies mentioned:
Akulaku
ShopBack
TikTok
Blue Sky Venture Capital
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
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Jul 3, 2025 • 58min
Ep214 – Pan Koutlakis (Co-founder & CEO – EatClub) on rebuilding EatClub from $0 revenue to global expansion after COVID
My guest for Ep214 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Pan Koutlakis.
Pan is the Co-Founder and CEO of EatClub, a platform that uses dynamic pricing to help restaurants fill empty tables during off-peak hours, while passing on great deals to diners.
EatClub saw remarkable growth early on, but like many in the industry, the business came to a standstill when COVID hit, with revenue dropping to zero overnight. Pan responded by drastically downsizing overheads, restructuring the company, and rebuilding momentum recently leading the business to secure an impressive $18.2 million Series A round.
In this episode we covered a variety of topics including:
How he convinced industry heavyweight Marco Pierre White to come on board
Navigating the uncertainty of COVID
The power of setting ambitious targets
Frameworks for making strategic long-term bets
And much more!
Timestamps:
00:01:10 Pan’s Adelaide upbringing, law-and-economics studies & first jobs in hospitality
00:08:41 Joining Rocket Internet’s ‘Suppertime’ and witnessing growth-at-all-costs firsthand
00:10:17 Founding EatClub
00:13:08 Cold-emailing Marco Pierre White, why the celebrity chef came on board
00:16:12 Structuring deals with celebrities
00:22:22 Signing the very first restaurant (on the first cold-call) and refining the MVP
00:27:58 EVP’s initial pass, eventual investment and the overnight COVID revenue crash
00:56:15 Tough cuts, shutdown of U.S. ops, and doubling-down on R&D during lockdown
00:39:32 Founder/Investor relationship
00:47:58 How he thinks about product roadmap and what features to build
00:55:07 Post-pandemic rebound, UK market entry & closing the $18.2 M Series A
Our partners:
A big thank you to Dan Szekely, Jonte Shaw and David Hodges for their help with this interview!
Also a big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club: The world’s first human accelerator
Pan’s links:
Pan on LinkedIn
EatClub
People mentioned:
Marco Pierre White
David Berger
Ben Tyler
Matt Cantelo
Daniel Szekely
Jamie Oliver
Gordon Ramsay
Dan Szekely
Jonte Shaw
David Hodges
Companies mentioned:
EatClub
EVP
Suppertime
Foodora
Delivery Hero
Rocket Internet
Menulog
Groupon
Uber Eats
Mastercard
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
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Jun 27, 2025 • 1h 14min
Ep213 – Rob Phillpot (Co-founder – Aconex) on scaling Aconex to a $1.6B exit and launching a $50M founders fund
My guest for Ep213 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Rob Phillpot.
Rob and his co-founder Leigh Jasper have played a huge part in shaping Australia’s tech landscape, building Aconex into one of the country’s most iconic companies, taking it public in 2014 and ultimately selling it to Oracle in 2017 for $1.6 billion.
Since then, Rob has dedicated his time to advising startups, supporting philanthropy, and investing through his family office, Gravel Road Ventures. Most recently, Rob, Leigh Jasper, and A Cloud Guru founder Sam Kroonenberg teamed up to launch Glitch Capital, a $50 million founders fund backing the next generation of global tech companies.
In this episode, we cover a lot of ground, including:
Aconex’s journey to a $1.6B exit and overcoming multiple near-death experiences
What it was like to sell a company when he didn’t want to
Why advising founders is 20% strategy and 80% psychology
The secrets behind building a high-performance culture
Balancing big ambitions with family life
What Glitch Capital looks for when backing startups
And so much more.
Timestamps:
00:01:50 Rob’s background
00:06:27 Meeting Leigh Jasper: did school-friends always know they’d start a company together?
00:09:15 Switching tracks: advice for people stuck in a career they don’t love
00:11:07 Startup ecosystem in 2000 and the early days of Aconex
00:13:46 Staying positive: how did Rob and Leigh keep morale when things looked bleak?
00:18:22 Strength in vulnerability
00:21:58 Cultivating Aconex’s culture and common founder mistakes
00:37:58 The real story of the Aconex sale
00:43:13 Life after the exit: what did stepping away from Aconex feel like?
00:49:48 What Rob looks for as an investor
00:58:13 80% psychology: common founder struggles Rob sees as an advisor
01:00:48 Family, fitness and cooking dinner: balancing startup life with home life
01:07:05 Philanthropy focus: why Rob created the Gravel Road Foundation and how he thinks about giving
Our partners:
A big thank you to Ben Leach, Andrew Barron and Bill Phillpot for their help with this interview!
Also a big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club – Details here
Rob’s Links:
Rob on LinkedIn
Glitch Capital
Aconex
Gravel Road Foundation
Gravel Road Ventures
People mentioned:
Leigh Jasper
Sam Kroonenburg
Ben Leach
Andrew Barron
Simon Sinek
Geoff Tarrant
Companies mentioned:
Oracle
Multiplex
McKinsey & Company
Amazon Web Services
Deloitte
A Cloud Guru
HammerTech
Firmable
Payapps
Mr Yum
Leonardo.AI
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
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Jun 19, 2025 • 1h 8min
Ep212 – Matt Loop (Head of Asia – Rippling) on Leadership, Hiring & Growing Iconic Tech Companies
My guest for Ep212 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Matt Loop.
There are few people who’ve had as much influence in shaping the tech landscape in this region as Matt.
He began his career at Salesforce, where he was one of their earliest hires in Australia, before going on to lead sales at LinkedIn, first in ANZ, then later as Head of Enterprise in North America.
After that, he returned to Australia to take on the role of Head of Asia Pacific at Slack, helping the company scale its presence across the region.
Today, Matt is the VP and Head of Asia at Rippling, a workforce management platform that’s transforming how businesses manage their people, IT, and operations. Just last month, Rippling announced a $450 million Series G round, valuing the company at $16.8 billion.
In this episode, we dive into a range of topics, including:
How to build and lead high-performance teams
Matt’s approach to hiring and what he looks for in candidates
The frameworks he uses to choose which companies to join
Balancing a high-impact career with family life
And so much more.
Timestamps:
00:02:07 Matt’s career arc: Salesforce, LinkedIn, Slack, Rippling
00:08:45 Building Salesforce APAC
00:12:29 GTM Advice to founders
00:16:48 Leaving Salesforce: spotting comfort creep & moving to LinkedIn
00:24:27 Leadership frameworks from all his previous experiences
00:30:15 Cultivating Rippling’s high performance culture
00:35:09 Frameworks for evaluating potential career opportunities
00:46:13 Hiring “good humans” with a growth mindset
00:50:02 Networking and personal branding
00:55:13 Stepping back from the day-to-day and seeing the bigger picture
01:00:10 Finding your own version of balance
Our partners:
A big thank you to Katrina Loop, James Demetrios and Andrew McCarthy for their help with this interview!
Also a big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club – Details here
Matt’s Links:
Matt on LinkedIn
Rippling
People mentioned:
Marc Benioff
Satya Nadella
Mike Gamson
Alyssa Merwin
Cal Henderson
Parker Conrad
James Demetrios
Andrew McCarthy
Companies mentioned:
Salesforce
LinkedIn
Slack
Siebel
Oracle
SAP
Microsoft
Amazon
eBay
Notion
Atlassian
Playbook Ventures
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
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Jun 12, 2025 • 1h 2min
Ep211 – Jodie Imam (Co-founder & CEO – Tractor Ventures) on startup exits, scaling with content and life-changing personal systems
My guest for Ep211 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Jodie Imam.
Jodie is the Co-founder & CEO of Tractor Ventures, which provides non dilutive capital (between $100,000 – $1.5M) to tech enabled companies.
Since launching in 2020, Tractor has deployed nearly $100M, has 230 customers and is tracking at $5M in annual revenue.
Prior to this, Jodie was the Co-founder of Occasional Butler which was acquired in 2020.
She was also a member of Cohort #1 of the Komo Club, and in this episode we dive into a range of areas including:
Lessons from launching, growing and exiting Occasional Butler
How she uses content to attract talent and customers to Tractor Ventures
Systems and frameworks she utilises to manage a busy schedule between running a high growth business, multiple board seats, and a busy personal life
How personal goals created through The Komo Club have had a significant impact on her number one priority in life
And much more!
Timestamps:
00:01:54 Jodie’s background
00:03:29 How Jodie’s childhood shaped her perspective on life and business
00:05:49 Early career: building Occasional Butler and co-working space Depo8
00:07:39 The decision to go all in on Occasional Butler
00:08:50 What Jodie would do differently second time around with Occasional Butler
00:11:36 How to build credibility as an early stage startup
00:13:47 Selling Occasional Butler to Airtasker while raising two young children
00:18:04 Founding Tractor Ventures with Matt & Aprill
00:21:11 Early days of Tractor Ventures
00:24:10 Challenges with the business, restructuring
00:28:09 Culture design: 4-day workweek, 90-day scorecard & Level-10 meetings
00:30:14 LinkedIn content engine that drives both deal flow and hiring
00:44:09 Personal goals, The Komo Club & intentional parenting
00:54:49 How Jodie structures her day and week
Our partners:
A big thank you to Olivia Doherty, Andrew Fitzpatrick and Matt Allen for their help with this interview!
Also a big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club – Details here
Jodie’s Links:
Tractor Ventures
Jodie on LinkedIn
People mentioned:
Tim Fung
Matt Allen
Aprill Enright
Andrew Fitzpatrick
Olivia Doherty
Dan Siepen
Bryan Williams
Dean Swan
Cameron Falloon
Janine Allis
Leona Edmiston
Companies mentioned:
Airtasker
TaskRabbit
Gumtree
SBE Australia
Wade Institute of Entrepreneurship
University of Melbourne
FinTech Australia
Private Media
SmartCompany
Crikey
The Mandarin
Jim’s Mowing
Innovation Bay
Amazon
Leona Edmiston
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
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May 1, 2025 • 55min
Ep210 – James Fuller (Co-founder & CEO – Hnry) on turning a spreadsheet into platform processing $2.6B
James Fuller, Co-founder & CEO of Hnry, shares his journey of transforming a simple spreadsheet into a powerful tax automation platform, processing $2.6B annually. He discusses the unique advantages and challenges of being a husband-and-wife founding team, including navigating their personal dynamics. The duo focuses on fairness in their pricing strategy and the importance of customer feedback in shaping their service. James reflects on overcoming tough moments in their startup journey, highlighting resilience and the support of their community.
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Apr 2, 2025 • 1h 14min
Ep209 – Mathew Ellis (Co-founder & CTO – Kismet) on vertical ownership and high performing teams
My guest for Ep209 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Mat Ellis.
This episode is a little special. Not only is it Mat’s first-ever podcast interview, but we’ve also been close friends since grade 7. And many years ago, after months of trying, I finally convinced him to join as one of the co-founders of my first startup, StageLabel.
But Mat’s not on the show just because we’re friends. He’s genuinely one of the best engineers in the country.
He’s the Co-founder and CTO of Kismet Healthcare, a company tackling the deep inefficiencies in healthcare and disability services. Kismet has seen phenomenal growth in just a short period of time, scaling quickly with a small, high-performing team of 30 – including an engineering team of just five.
At Playbook Ventures, we were lucky enough to back Kismet from the pre-seed stage and have had a front-row seat to their incredible growth.
In this episode, we unpack some of the principles behind that growth, including:
Why smaller teams get more done
The 2 core values that make hires successful at Kismet
The importance of vertical ownership
Why every engineer on Matt’s team spends one day a month on customer support calls
And much more.
Toward the end of the episode, we also get personal and reflect on the growth we’ve both had across all areas of our lives. Mat’s also a member of Cohort #1 of The Komo Club, where we go deep on these exact themes, exploring how to build not just high-performing businesses, but high-performing lives.
If you want to find out more, check out TheKomoClub.com
Timestamps:
2:29 Mathew’s background and early interest in software
4:36 Discovering startups and autonomy
7:41 StageLabel and lessons in ownership
9:54 The importance of doing something you like
11:54 Lessons from early in his career that he applies now at Kismet
18:33 Transition to Xplor
23:53 Co-founding Kismet
31:09 Scaling with small, high trust teams, why vertical ownership (end-to-end accountability) drives better outcomes
39:32 Hiring for culture fit at Kismet: humility and ownership and what to look for in technical talent
43:54 Why Kismet does its best to scare people off in interviews
49:25 Overcoming challenges of scale and the sacrifice you make when starting a company
55:31 Personal Growth: From work first to a balanced life, how a holistic approach improves work performance
1:02:50 How Mat has stopped being a passenger in his own life
1:05:40 How taking care of himself properly allows him to perform better at work
Our partners:
A big thank you to Mark Woodland, Harry Travers and Bejoy Machumpurath for their help with this interview!
Also a big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club – Details here
Mathew’s Links:
Kismet
Mat on LinkedIn
Kismet’s email
People mentioned:
Mark Woodland
James Chin-Moody
David Goggins
Jocko Willink
Jason Fried
Companies mentioned:
StageLabel
Department of Defense
Lockheed Martin
Xplor
Playbook Ventures
Sendle
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
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Mar 26, 2025 • 1h 29min
Ep208 – Jane Martino (Co-founder & Chair – Smiling Mind) on founder mental health, mindfulness & multiple exits
My guest for Ep208 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Jane Martino.
Jane has had an incredibly successful career as a director, investor, advisor and founder of a number of companies that have successfully exited.
She’s best known as the Co-founder & Chair of Smiling Mind, one of the worlds leading mindfulness and mental health tools with over 9.3M downloads and 14M young people reached globally.
She now helps individuals reach their maximum potential through her coaching business, Kintsugi Way.
In this episode, we cover:
Lessons from launching, scaling and exiting several businesses
The role of good advisors and board members
How to deal with co-founder conflicts
How to deal with emotions and stress as a founder
And much more.
PS we go deep into several important topics in this episode and they are just some of the topics we dive into at The Komo Club.
The Komo Club is a private program I’ve launched for high-performing founders, operators and executives who want to win not just in business, but across all areas of life—from health and relationships to personal growth and leadership. It’s an 8-week cohort experience that combines world class content, practical systems and frameworks a curated community to help you reach your goals.
And I’m incredibly proud to share that Jane will be joining us as one of the featured guest speakers for the upcoming cohort. She’ll be diving deeper into the frameworks and lessons she’s used to lead with purpose, avoid burnout, and create lasting impact; personally and professionally.
If this episode resonates with you, I think you’ll love what Jane will be sharing inside The Komo Club as well.
Cohort 1 applications are now open. You can learn more at TheKomoClub.com or by reaching out to me directly at rohit@startupplaybook.co.
Timestamps:
3:07 Janey’s background
13:49 Founder mental health
18:59 Experience with meditation and practical uses for business
24:27 Communicating with co-founders and colleagues
35:33 How she applied these to the situation at Unlockd
45:40 Thoughts on hustle culture
56:48 How she’s approached being a founder
59:30 Her approach to advisory roles
1:09:58 How she helps co founders decide on the roles they’ll play in the business
1:20:55 The journey with Smiling Mind
Our partners:
A big thank you to Laura Henshaw and Andrew Duncan for their help with this interview!
Also a big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club – Details & Cohort #1 applications available here
Janey’s links:
Jane on LinkedIn
Kintsugi Way
Smiling Mind
People mentioned:
Rachael Neumann
Robin Sharma
James Tutton
Laura Henshaw
Companies mentioned:
Unlockd
AWS
CSIRO
Aussie Founders Club
Boost Mobile
Tesco Mobile
Google
Kic
DiSC profile
Headspace
Calm
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
https://youtu.be/JZ9chMylhxA
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Feb 27, 2025 • 1h 17min
Ep207 – Dean Swan (VP for APJ at Monday.com) on growing Monday.com zero to $100M+ in APJ
My guest for Ep207 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was the Vice President and General Manager for Asia-Pacific & Japan at Monday.com, Dean Swan.
Dean spent 11 years at Microsoft before becoming the Country Manager for Australia & New Zealand at Dropbox. He’s now the Vice President and General Manager of APJ at Monday.com.
When Dean joined Monday.com as the first hire in the region, he set an audacious goal: to grow his part of the business to $100 million in 5 years – an ambitious target considering the entire company was valued at $120 million at the time.
Fast forward to today, he’s grown the team to 140 people and is just $2 million shy of that $100 million target – months ahead of schedule.
In 2021, Monday.com went public and now boasts a market cap of $15.97 billion.
In this episode we covered a variety of topics including:
How to effectively expand into new markets and territories
How to hire and attract the best talent
How Dean grew the business from zero to $100M in the APJ region
The steps he takes to perform at his best, which led to him losing 20kg+
And much more!
Timestamps:
3:38 Dean’s background
5:19 Early career experiences as a chef
9:12 Transitioning into technology
11:02 Learnings from 11 years at Microsoft
16:04 How to build culture in a company
21:35 His experience expanding Dropbox and monday.com into other markets
30:58 His own entrepreneurial journey prior to Dropbox & monday.com
38:22 Balancing vision with daily focus
42:18 Why he left Dropbox to help build out monday.com in APJ, early challenges
46:23 How he looks for and attracts talent
52.47 His initial growth plans for monday.com
59:33 Thoughts on AI and how he’s using it personally and at monday.com
1:06:56 The catalyst that made him prioritise his health and lose 20kg
Our partners:
A big thank you to Greg Walsom help his help with this interview!
Also a big shout out to our long-term partners for the show:
Scendar
Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. If you’re busy running your startup, you don’t have time to do your own books and forecast. Instead, fully outsource your finance function, giving you time and resources back to focus on what you do best in growing your business. Find out more at Scendar.com
Vanta
Vanta helps businesses get — and stay — compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in-demand compliance frameworks. And with over 300 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on.Join over six thousand fast-growing companies that use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.The Startup Playbook Podcast listeners get access to an exclusive offer of USD$1000 off their plans. Head over to vanta.com/podcast to get access to this exclusive discount.
Links mentioned:
The Komo Club – Details & Cohort #1 applications available here
Dean’s Links:
Dean on LinkedIn
monday.com
People mentioned:
Bill Gates
Steve Balmer
Satya Nadella
Roy Mann
Eran Zinman
Greg Walsom
Adam Schwab
David Shein
Companies mentioned:
Microsoft
Dropbox
Google
Hum Technologies
Amazon
G2
Luxury Escapes
Tourism Australia
Canva
OpenAI
Feedback/connect/say hello:
Rohit@startupplaybook.co
@RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
/rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
@rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
My Youtube Channel
Credits:
Music: Paycheck
Other channels:
Find all of the links for the podcast on Linktree here
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