The Edge Podcast

James Craig is the Director of the movie Code Is Law.In this episode, we go behind the scenes of Code Is Law: Crypto’s Unstoppable Heists, a new documentary retracing the history of DeFi’s biggest smart contract exploits. James walks us through the fascinating stories he investigated behind these famous hacks, including The DAO, Indexed Finance, KyberSwap, and Mango Markets. Plus, how the human stories behind these events continue to shape Ethereum and DeFi's culture, law, and future.Code Is Law is available to stream on Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+ and YouTube Movies starting today, October 21st.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS🌅 NEUTRL | THE NEXT GENERATION OF CRYPTO-NATIVE YIELD🌞 SOLSTICE | PERMISSIONLESS INSTITUTIONAL YIELD🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET🦅 FALCON | OVERCOLLATERIZED SYNTHETIC DOLLAR - POINTS PROGRAM NOW LIVE🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR INSTITUTIONAL SCALE🌊 RIVER | A CHAIN-ABSTRACTION STABLECOIN SYSTEM⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED------Timestamps0:00 - Intro10:02 - How James got interested in DeFi exploits14:24 - The story behind The DAO hack20:14 - Sponsor break21:14 - The aftermath of The DAO29:16 - The Indexed Finance hack34:27 - The story behind the Indexed hacker36:57 - Sponsor break38:16 - The debate over exploits vs ‘code is law’46:21 - The KyberSwap attack51:57 - The bravado and ego of a hacker54:31 - The Eisenberg case with Mango Markets59:41 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Code Is Law website: journeyman.tv/film/8785► Code Is Law on X: https://x.com/CodeIsLawFilm► James Craig on X: https://x.com/jamescraig1111------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Billy Luedtke is the Founder of Intuition.In this episode, we explore how Intuition is building a new decentralized network for reputation, trust, and decision-making on Ethereum. Plus, why this could be the foundation for a universal knowledge graph that reshapes how we share and verify information online.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS🌅 NEUTRL | THE NEXT GENERATION OF CRYPTO-NATIVE YIELD🌞 SOLSTICE | PERMISSIONLESS INSTITUTIONAL YIELD🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET🦅 FALCON | OVERCOLLATERIZED SYNTHETIC DOLLAR - POINTS PROGRAM NOW LIVE🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR INSTITUTIONAL SCALE🌊 RIVER | A CHAIN-ABSTRACTION STABLECOIN SYSTEM⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED------Timestamps0:00 - Intro7:52 - Billy’s early start with Bitcoin and Ethereum18:11 - Why Ethereum is still objectively our best option23:28 - Sponsor break24:28- Importance of decentralized identity32:21 - Why we need Intuition37:09 - Why Intuition needs Ethereum38:53 - Sponsor break40:12 - Early use cases for Intuition49:56 - TRUST token powers Intuition55:26 - What’s next for Intuition?56:59 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Intuition website: https://www.intuition.systems/► Intuition on X: https://x.com/0xintuition► Billy Luedtke on X: https://x.com/0xbilly------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Behrin is the Founder of Neutrl Labs.In this episode, Behrin reveals how Neutrl is bringing a new yield to DeFi with asymmetric stablecoin returns powered by OTC arb strategies. We explore how their synthetic dollar NUSD and the yield-bearing form sNUSD work, why it reminds us of Ethena, and what makes their approach stand out in today’s market.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS🌞 SOLSTICE | PERMISSIONLESS INSTITUTIONAL YIELD🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET🦅 FALCON | OVERCOLLATERIZED SYNTHETIC DOLLAR - POINTS PROGRAM NOW LIVE🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR INSTITUTIONAL SCALE🌊 RIVER | A CHAIN-ABSTRACTION STABLECOIN SYSTEM⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED------Timestamps0:00 - Intro7:46 - Behrin’s background8:54 - Overview of OTC arbitrage strategy10:50 - The mission at Neutrl12:44 - The market conditions for Neutrl’s trading strategies14:23 - Who does Neutrl work with?15:40 - Average duration and terms for OTC deals underpinning Neutrl16:37 - Example of a Neutrl strategy19:15 - Sponsor break 20:15 - Will Neutrl strategies work in a bull, bear, flat market?21:49 - Can Neutrl’s trading system benefit foundations selling tokens?23:55 - Composition of Neutrl’s yield strategies25:42 - Could a token dumping benefit the Neutrl OTC strategy?29:07 - Which tokens fit Neutrl’s criteria for the strategy?30:57 - Dumbing down the Neutrl OTC arb 32:36 - Sponsor break33:55 - Understanding NUSD vs sNUSD for users35:22 - Do sNUSD holders have to lock for any duration?41:45 - Thoughts on Neutrl’s future yield distribution43:40 - Future yield strategies for Neutrl44:41 - How scalable is the Neutrl system for sNUSD?46:11 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Neutrl website: https://www.neutrl.fi/► Neutrl on X: https://x.com/neutrl_labs► Behrin on X: https://x.com/behrin_n------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Luke Youngblood, founder of Moonwell and Mamo, shares insights from his early days in DeFi on Coinbase's Base L2. He discusses Coinbase's long-term vision for Base as a sustainable financial platform, touching on the potential impact of a Base token designed to incentivize quality builders. Luke highlights innovative DeFi 'mullet' products and Moonwell's role as a liquidity hub. He also dives into Mamo's mission of automating DeFi with user-friendly onboarding and creative solutions for risk management.

Ryan Berckmans, an Ethereum community member and ETH investor, shares insights on Ethereum’s bright future. He believes ETH fundamentals outpace its price, driving potential for massive growth in the onchain economy. Ryan discusses macro factors fueling renewed enthusiasm, the role of the Etherealize project in adoption, and the Ethereum Foundation's effective strategies. He emphasizes Vitalik's vision for low-risk DeFi as a game changer, while also previewing the significant Fusaka upgrade and its impact on L2 scaling.

Shiv Shankar, CEO of Boundless Network and zero-knowledge tech expert, dives into the transformative potential of ZK. He explains how ZK can enhance Ethereum's scalability and security, addressing quantum risks and improving user experiences in DeFi. Shiv highlights the significance of ZKVMs for existing chains, allowing developers to integrate ZK with ease. He also discusses Boundless’s mission for a decentralized ZK protocol and the upcoming mainnet beta launch, marking exciting advancements for cross-chain interoperability.

Sid Powell is the CoFounder and CEO at Maple.In this episode, interview Sid about how Maple achieved 10X growth in 2025, from $400M to $4B TVL, and what the next five years could look like for onchain lending, institutional adoption, and new products like syrupBTC.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS🌅 NEUTRL | THE NEXT GENERATION OF CRYPTO-NATIVE YIELD🦅 FALCON | OVERCOLLATERIZED SYNTHETIC DOLLAR - POINTS PROGRAM NOW LIVE⚡ SPARK | THE ONCHAIN CAPITAL ALLOCATOR🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR INSTITUTIONAL SCALE📈 RUMPEL | TURN POINTS INTO PROFITS⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED------Timestamps0:00 - Intro6:52- The opportunity and mission behind Maple9:50 - Institutional lending and borrowing onchain12:28 - The BD engine behind Maple is a moat15:45 - 10X growth in 2025 17:28 - How Maple’s revenue flows back to SYRUP holders19:17 - Sponsor break20:27 - Why TradFi finally sees DeFi as legit26:01 - Future trends in onchain yields30:51 - Maple’s expansion to Solana with syrupUSDC34:37 - How syrupUSDC works37:43 - Demand to loop syrupUSDC + expansion to Eth L2s41:08 - Sponsor break42:57 - Maple is a launch partner for Plasma45:49 - The Aave Effect and implications for Maple looping48:45 - New syrupBTC product coming soon53:34 - 5-year outlook for Maple56:15 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Maple website: https://maple.finance/► Maple on X: https://x.com/maplefinance► Sid Powell on X: https://x.com/syrupsid------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Paul Faecks is the Founder of Plasma.In this episode, we prepare for Plasma's mainnet launch with all you need to know as a DeFi stablecoin user. Paul shares his vision for Plasma DeFi, why they chose to build an L1 specifically for stablecoins, how they'll attract liquidity, and what to look for at mainnet launch.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS🌅 NEUTRL | THE NEXT GENERATION OF CRYPTO-NATIVE YIELD🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET🦅 FALCON | OVERCOLLATERIZED SYNTHETIC DOLLAR - POINTS PROGRAM NOW LIVE⚡ SPARK | THE ONCHAIN CAPITAL ALLOCATOR🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR INSTITUTIONAL SCALE📈 RUMPEL | TURN POINTS INTO PROFITS⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED------Timestamps0:00 - Intro8:47 - Paul’s background11:14 - Why stablecoins have product-market fit15:15 - USDT dominance16:26 - Overview of Plasma20:47 - Designing for future uncensorable products22:55 - How Plasma consensus works23:37 - Why did Plasma build an L1 vs an Ethereum L2?25:18 - Bridging native BTC over to Plasma26:29 - Sponsor break27:38 - DeFi strategy and cold start problem32:04 - Building for DeFi more than just payments35:10 - Will Plasma evolve into a general purpose L1?37:15 - Sponsor break38:40 - Synergy between payments and DeFi40:27 - Competition for stablecoin-focused chains42:36 - Impact of GENIUS Act on stablecoins44:00 - Has Tether outgrown Tron?46:13 - Plasma go-live in late Sept 202547:07 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Plasma website: https://www.plasma.to/► Plasma on X: https://x.com/plasmaFDN► Paul on X: https://x.com/pauliepunt------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Tim is the Global Head of Strategy at Mantle and YZ is Product Lead.Mantle is placing some of the biggest bets on their Ethereum L2, a DeFi neobank (UR), a long-standing $500M ETH treasury, and a new major Bybit partnership. In this episode, we unpack the implications of all this in growing demand for their DeFi economy.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET🦅 FALCON | OVERCOLLATERIZED SYNTHETIC DOLLAR - POINTS PROGRAM NOW LIVE⚡ SPARK | THE ONCHAIN CAPITAL ALLOCATOR🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR INSTITUTIONAL SCALE📈 RUMPEL | TURN POINTS INTO PROFITS⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED------Timestamps0:00 - Intro6:48 - Tim and YZ’s roles at Mantle11:30 - What is Mantle Index Four (MI4)?14:07 - UR, a money app for crypto natives17:40 - What will drive new users to DeFi neobanks?20:25 - Bybit partnership and its implications for Mantle23:12 - Sponsor break24:17 - Expectations for Bybit-Mantle rollout26:25 - Mantle’s ETH treasury and thoughts on DATs31:26 - The road to $80k ETH33:16 - Sponsor break34:10 - Could Mantle ever deploy an MNT DAT?35:06 - Why Mantle as an L2?37:27 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Mantle website: https://mantle.xyz/► UR website: https://ur.app/► Mantle on X: https://x.com/mantle_official► Tim on X: https://x.com/tx0zz► YZ on X: https://x.com/ngyingzhong------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic hold ETH. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Jacob Chudnovsky, Founder of 3Jane and a trailblazer in unsecured credit within DeFi, discusses the transformative potential of combining on-chain and off-chain credit scoring. He unveils the 'Jane Score', a hybrid system designed to revolutionize credit access for those lacking substantial assets. Jacob also delves into innovative repayment structures and highlights the future of automated productivity in credit markets. His insights offer a glimpse into a multi-trillion-dollar opportunity that could reshape financial landscapes.