The Edge Podcast

In this episode, DeFi Dad and Nomatic break down Robinhood’s recent announcement around Robinhood Chain built with Arbitrum and Ethereum, plus their new perps trading, staking support, and stock token trading, and what it all means for the next wave of crypto adoption.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 - Intro6:14 - Why the Robinhood crypto app never appealed to me8:49 - Stock tokens on Ethereum L2 Arbitrum + Robinhood Chain17:41 - Private company stock tokens20:56 - Sponsor break20:38 - Will tokenization standards be an issue for stock tokens?25:13 - Reflecting on where we are since DeFi Summer26:59 - Robinhood perpetual futures live for EU customers31:20 - ETH and SOL staking is live in-app32:40 - Impact of regulatory change in US34:47 - Positioning for DeFi and crypto growth to go parabolic37:14 - Sponsor break38:35 - Could Robinhood/Coinbase lean into the ETH treasury trend? 42:29 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Robinhood announcement: https://newsroom.aboutrobinhood.com/robinhood-launches-stock-tokens-reveals-layer-2-blockchain-and-expands-crypto-suite-in-eu-and-us-with-perpetual-futures-and-staking/► Robinhood livestream on X: https://x.com/RobinhoodApp/status/1939701274217460047------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic both hold ETH and SOL. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Rhett Shipp is the CoFounder at Avant.In this episode, we unpack how Avant is bringing actively managed, hedge fund–like strategies onchain through permissionless, yield-bearing tokens like savUSD earning 10% and savBTC earning 3.8%.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 - Intro1:21 - Avant founder background3:35 - Who are key customers for yield-bearing assets?5:14 - Understanding the stablecoin landscape13:03 - Sponsor break15:50 - What is avUSD vs savUSD?22:29 - Scaling yield strategies backing savUSD25:52 - Sponsor break27:54 - Avant security34:35 - What is avBTC vs savBTC?38:32 - TradFi demand for Avant yields41:58 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Avant website: https://www.avantprotocol.com/► Avant on X: https://x.com/avantprotocol► Rhett on X: https://x.com/RhettShipp------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Tomasz Stańczak is the Founder of Nethermind and now Co-Executive Director at the Ethereum Foundation.In this episode, the Ethereum Foundation’s new Co-Executive Director shares his vision for Ethereum’s next decade--covering L1 scaling, the evolving role of the EF, treasury policy, and how Ethereum can stay essential in an AI-powered world.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 – Intro6:35 – Tomasz’s Path to EF Leadership16:46 – EF’s Legacy Role vs. Today’s Mission22:34 – How Regulation Shapes Ethereum & Crypto27:36 – Sponsor Break28:17 – Ethereum’s Top Priorities: L1 Scaling, Blobs & UX39:08 – Will Ethereum Accrue Value if L2s Win?43:49 – Sponsor Break45:28 – Inside EF’s New Treasury Policy49:24 – New Collaboration Models: Etherealize & Beyond52:58 – Ethereum + AI: What’s Possible?1:04:03 – What Success Looks Like in 10 Years1:09:57 – Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Ethereum website: https://ethereum.org/► EF website: https://ethereum.foundation/► Ethereum on X: https://x.com/ethereum► EF on X: https://x.com/ethereumfndn► Tomasz on X: https://x.com/tkstanczak------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. Both DeFi Dad and Nomatic hold ETH. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Ryan Rodenbaugh, co-founder and CEO of Wallfacer Labs, shares his expertise in decentralized finance (DeFi) with insightful discussions on Bitcoin's ideological influence and Ethereum's enduring value. The hosts reflect on their personal journeys in crypto and the evolving landscape of DeFi, exploring new protocols and investment strategies. They highlight the importance of investor narratives versus reality, and discuss innovative lending models and yield-bearing assets that could reshape the future of finance. Tune in for a deep dive into this transformative sector!

Cole Kennelly is the Founder and CEO at Volmex Labs.In this episode, we dive into how Volmex created the first crypto-native volatility indices, BVIV and EVIV, and how traders can now measure, track, and even trade crypto market volatility using tools modeled after the VIX.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 - Intro1:06 - Cole’s background2:33 - The importance of volatility in crypto4:41 - Sponsor break7:39 - Why crypto needs Volmex indices?9:49 - Overview of Volmex indices12:39 - Will Volmex ever support perps for trading funding rates?13:24 - How are investors using Volmex?17:16 - DEX/CEX interest in perps for Volmex indices21:46 - The perseverance to find product-market fit27:12 - Sponsor break29:12 - Trends in BVIV, EVIV, SVIV33:33 - Understanding Volmex Prime Rate Indices (VPR)35:50 - What is tradeable onchain?38:04 - Future Volmex token and points program40:46 - What’s next in Volmex roadmap?42:48 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Volmex website: https://volmex.finance/► Volmex Foundation website: https://charts.volmex.finance/► Volmex on X: https://x.com/volmexfinance► Volmex Foundation on X: https://x.com/VolmexFDN► Cole on X: https://x.com/ColeGotTweets------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. 4RC invested in Volmex's seed round in 2021. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Sam MacPherson is CEO at Phoenix Labs, a service provider to Spark.In this episode, we explore how one of the top 5 largest DeFi protocols scaled to billions in liquidity onchain without a token, and why its upcoming SPK launch, RWA strategy, and “not a bank” campaign prove it’s just getting started.EDITOR'S NOTE: Since recording, liquidity deposited into Spark grew from $3.6B to $4B.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 - Intro5:55 - Start at Maker12:40 - Spark spinning out of Maker17:07 - The Spark product suite21:11 - Capacity to onramp another $20B23:21 - Serious interest in yield from institutions25:28 - Sponsor break26:09 - Spark’s interest in lending to institutions like BlackRock28:50 - Strategy for the stablecoin boom31:19 - Web2 partners will offer access to Spark yields32:26 - Spark’s interest in more RWAs37:24 - Sponsor break39:03 - Who decides where SLL will allocate capital?44:25 - Spark is not a bank49:11 - SPK TGE, Pendle campaign, and airdrop51:46 - Rewarding legacy Spark users52:44 - Sam’s vision for Spark54:22 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Spark website: https://spark.fi/► Spark Data Hub website: https://data.spark.fi/► Spark on X: https://x.com/sparkdotfinance► Sam on X: https://x.com/hexonaut------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. As of the recording, DeFi Dad and Nomatic are holding YT-USDS on Pendle, expiring August 13, 2025. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Jack O'Holleran, co-founder of SKALE and CEO at SKALE Labs, unveils FAIR, an innovative L1 blockchain designed to eliminate miner extractable value (MEV). He discusses the importance of building practical infrastructure for DeFi and AI, emphasizing user-friendly features like zero gas fees. O'Holleran shares his journey from crypto skepticism to becoming a pioneer in the space and explains how FAIR aims to attract users by enhancing accessibility and aligning blockchain economics with effective user practices.

Aya Kantorovich is the Co-CEO and Co-Founder at August and Upshift.In this episode, we explore how Aya's team is building institutional-grade infrastructure to unlock the next wave of capital into DeFi. Plus, how everyday users can earn the same curated, risk-managed yield as institutions!------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 SKALE NETWORK | THE GAS-FREE INVISIBLE L1 BLOCKCHAIN📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUP.FI | INSTITUTIONAL-GRADE YIELD------Timestamps0:00 - Intro8:02 - Building August, an institutional platform for crypto14:02 - What’s needed for institutional investors to come onchain?18:29 - Adoption comes from superior financial products24:53 - Big TradFi money will next wave of adoption30:06 - Better backend management is necessary for DeFi34:59 - Sponsor break35:40 - Composability is why DeFi beats CeFi40:51 - Why more institutional investors choose Ethereum46:01 - Sponsor break47:40 - Using DeFi is where you uncover real edge55:39 - Top vaults on Upshift58:37 - Roadmap for August and Upshift1:01:00 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Upshift website: https://www.upshift.finance/► August website: https://www.augustdigital.io/► Upshift on X: https://x.com/upshift_fi► August on X: https://x.com/august_digital► Aya on X: https://x.com/aya_kantor------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Jared Phillips is the CoFounder and CEO of GolfN.In this episode, we dive into GolfN, a new golf rewards app built on Solana that lets you earn crypto and other rewards for playing golf, tracking your game, and sharing your love of golf with friends. With over 40,000 golfers on the waitlist and an app launch just around the corner, GolfN is one of the most promising new consumer apps built on Web3 rails, delivering crypto-native rewards that users can benefit from without ever needing to think about the tech behind it.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 SKALE NETWORK | THE GAS-FREE INVISIBLE L1 BLOCKCHAIN📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUP.FI | INSTITUTIONAL-GRADE YIELD------Timestamps0:00 - Intro7:02 - Why build a rewards app for golfers?13:08 - Golf’s trending rise in popularity17:40 - The fast-paced world of golf media23:39 - The state of legacy golfing apps28:20 - Why are there few loyalty programs for golfers?29:25 - Sponsor break32:13 - GolfN = Strava + Chase Rewards + Pokémon GO35:41 - GolfN is an accountability app like WHOOP42:52 - Sponsor break44:30 - Examples of how we will use the GolfN app48:55 - What rewards will GolfN users earn?52:51 - Benefits of GolfN for course managers56:42 - GolfN digital golf cards (NFTs) increase earnings in-app1:00:25 - GolfN app expected to launch any day1:02:49 - What’s next?1:06:16 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► GolfN website: https://golfn.com/► GolfN on X: https://x.com/GolfNapp► Jared on X: https://x.com/JMPlusEV► Bryson DeChambeau on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brysondechambeau/videos------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic are both investors in GolfN. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Kedian Sun, Co-founder of Level, dives into the world of stablecoins with a focus on lvlUSD. He discusses how Level’s innovative two-token structure offers attractive yields while addressing the risks involved. The conversation highlights strategies for using lvlUSD across various DeFi platforms like Pendle and Curve. Kedian also explores the competitive landscape of yield-bearing stablecoins, emphasizing the importance of transparency and lower-risk options for investors. Get ready for insights on the future of capital efficiency in the stablecoin ecosystem!