

Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Jeremy Miner
What separates the top 1%? Learn how they think, lead, and win so you can do the same.
Hosted by Jeremy Miner—founder of 7th Level and creator of NEPQ, the world's most effective sales methodology—The Next Level Podcast explores what it really takes to achieve scalable success.
Through conversations with elite entrepreneurs, visionaries, and high performers, Jeremy uncovers the mindset, habits, and strategies that drive lasting wealth, influence, and fulfillment. From building companies to becoming a better leader, this show gives you the frameworks to level up your income, identity, and impact.
Listen now and start thinking like the top 1%.
Hosted by Jeremy Miner—founder of 7th Level and creator of NEPQ, the world's most effective sales methodology—The Next Level Podcast explores what it really takes to achieve scalable success.
Through conversations with elite entrepreneurs, visionaries, and high performers, Jeremy uncovers the mindset, habits, and strategies that drive lasting wealth, influence, and fulfillment. From building companies to becoming a better leader, this show gives you the frameworks to level up your income, identity, and impact.
Listen now and start thinking like the top 1%.
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Oct 15, 2025 • 58min
Storytelling Secrets That Can Sell Anything with Donald Miller | Ep 391
Donald Miller, acclaimed author and creator of the StoryBrand Framework, dives into the art of storytelling and its power in marketing. He reveals how the brain connects with survival-based narratives, emphasizing the need for brands to position their customers as the heroes of the story. Miller offers insights on the P.E.A.C.E. framework that enhances clarity in messaging and shares how identity transformation drives sales. With practical tips and powerful examples, he demonstrates how to make brand communication impactful and impossible to ignore.

Oct 8, 2025 • 33min
Building the Next Generation of Sales Leaders with Dean Kozora | Ep 390
If your lead source disappeared tomorrow, would your team still stay? Jeremy Miner and Dean Kozora are building a sales culture where the answer is yes. Jeremy, founder of 7th Level, sits down with Dean, founder of Hardly Selling, to announce their new partnership. Hardly Selling is a sales training agency that focuses solely on sales team growth recruiting new team members, consulting on sales process, and scaling elite sales organizations. Through this partnership, they're helping expand 7th Level's internal sales team and giving top sales professionals the opportunity to train directly under Jeremy's NEPQ methodology inside a proven system. Dean has built over 17 sales teams past $1M/month, and together they share the frameworks that create top-performing sales teams, cultures that retain talent, and systems that scale with integrity. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (01:19) The High-Ticket Gap (03:14) Onboarding and Product Knowledge (06:54) The Ideal Sales Rep Profile (ISRP) (08:59) Systems and the "Broken Pipe" Problem (12:42) Hiring and Culture (15:52) Leadership, Pay, and Retention (22:12) The 7th Level x Hardly Selling Partnership (29:14) How to Apply Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level Get Top Sales Talent For Your Business: https://calendly.com/d/cshn-ztm-n69/7th-level-recruiting ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅Connect with Dean Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dean.kozora Website: https://hardlyselling.com

Oct 1, 2025 • 43min
Real Estate, Grit, and Mentorship with Cody Sperber | Next Level Replay
In this interview, Cody Sperber real estate investing meets sales strategy, mentorship, and funnels for business scaling. Cody shares how he went from Navy service to ASU, to flipping his first wholesale deal, and eventually building and selling Clever Investor while co-founding new companies like Floor Daddy. You'll learn why mentorship beats hustle, how to build grit, and why most entrepreneurs fail by chasing too many things at once. We also break down Cody's funnel strategy that drove over $120M in online education sales, and how real estate investing mentorship and systems changed his life. Chapters (00:00) Cody Sperber's Start in Real Estate Investing (05:20) Struggles, Debt & the Mentor Who Flipped the Switch (10:22) First $40K Deal, Chip on the Shoulder & Momentum (15:42) Mentorship, Masterminds & Authentic Selling in Real Estate (20:38) Systems, SOPs & Scaling a Real Estate Education Business (25:37) Funnels, Hard Sales & $120M Online Education Model (30:24) Culture, Team Buy-In & Avoiding Entrepreneur Mistakes (36:42) Events, Masterminds & Cody's Next Chapter Originally recorded October 2024 but brought back from the vault because the insights are as relevant today as ever. Connect with Cody Sperber Instagram: https://instagram.com/officialcodysperber YouTube: https://youtube.com/@cleverinvestor Floordaddy: https://floordaddy.com/ Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Sep 24, 2025 • 53min
Secrets of Sales, Influence and Success with Dean Graziosi | Ep 389
Ever feel like you should be further ahead in life? In this episode, Dean Graziosi, Tony Robbins' longtime business partner who has built 14 companies generating over $1B, shares why self-education beats the ignorance tax, how to sell as service, and the one hook that turned a flop into $100M. We dive into sales as a moral obligation, why money truly solves problems, and the difference between persuasion and lasting influence. If you want to collapse decades into days, this conversation will shift how you think about success, impact, and growth. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (01:12) Selling firewood in high school (04:57) Self education over formal education (06:18) The ignorance tax (14:29) Turning inspiration into action (19:12) Sales as a moral duty (23:34) What people truly want (26:19) Money solves problems (31:32) Persuasion versus influence (34:30) The hundred million dollar hook (42:19) Work life integration (45:43) The power of hunger 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Dean Graziosi Website: https://learn.mastermind.com/dean-graziosi-media Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deangraziosi YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ @deangraziosi

Sep 18, 2025 • 12min
PRIVATE Q&A with Andrew Bustamante and Jeremy Miner
Jeremy Miner sits down with ex-CIA officer Andrew Bustamante to reveal the truth about surveillance, persuasion, and influence under pressure. In this live Q&A, Andrew shares what it feels like to escape a hostile country, and how emotional regulation, mirroring, and tactical communication build trust in both espionage and sales. You'll also learn why mastery comes from action, not study, and how to spot manipulation traits in leadership. Watch until the end, you'll walk away with tools you can use in business, negotiations, and everyday conversations. Chapters: (00:00) The Most Dangerous Mission (01:12) Moral Flexibility vs Immorality (02:35) Do Masks Really Work? (03:32) How Spies Check Body Language (05:33) Can Sales Ever Truly Be Mastered? (07:16) How to Spot Manipulation and Counter-Tradecraft (09:03) Mastery Through Execution, Not Endless Study (09:59) Identifying Psychopathic Traits in Corporate Leaders Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Me Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerPodcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Andrew Bustamante Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/45htccD Read Andrew's CIA book Shadow Cell: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/ Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the EverydaySpy Podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast

Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 5min
Persuasion Secrets the CIA Doesn't Want You To Know with Andrew Bustamante | Ep 388
Former CIA intelligence officer Andrew Bustamante joins Jeremy Miner to reveal spy tradecraft, persuasion secrets, and the hidden psychology of influence. A U.S. Air Force veteran turned CIA officer and founder of EverydaySpy, Andrew has built a global platform teaching intelligence techniques for business, leadership, and everyday life. In this episode, Andrew takes you inside nuclear bunkers, covert disguises, and the Shadow Cell operation the CIA tried to block. He breaks down the three lives every human hides (public, private, secret), how spies win compliance without pressure, and why the Agency fought to keep his book classified. You'll hear tradecraft never before shared publicly and how you can use it to sell, influence, and connect on a deeper level. Chapters (00:00) From Air Force Bunkers to CIA Recruitment (09:26) Shadow Cell: The Book Fight & the CIA Mole (15:45) Public, Private & Secret Lives: The Persuasion Playbook (19:46) Sensemaking & Mirroring: Creating Compliance (26:07) Tonality, Baselines & Emotional Connection (43:35) Disguises & Cleansing Routes: Real Spy Tradecraft (54:47) AI, Surveillance & The Future of Persuasion (01:02:40) EverydaySpy: Where to Learn More Curious how to apply this to your sales strategy? Text me directly at 480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Andrew Bustamante Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/45htccD Read Andrew's CIA book Shadow Cell: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/ Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the EverydaySpy Podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast

Sep 3, 2025 • 42min
Why Average Skills Keep You Broke and What Winners Do Differently with Sabastian Enges | Ep 387
You don't get paid for time you get paid for skills. In today's economy, average won't cut it. In this episode, I sit down with performance coach Sabastian Enges to break down why the market rewards producers (not consumers), how to build high-value skill sets that print options for your family, and the real triad that scales results: skills, mentality, and character. We get tactical on consultative selling, problem-finding vs. blaming "bad leads," and why communication is the ultimate meta-skill for leaders, salespeople, and anyone who wants influence. If you're serious about leveling up income, impact, and freedom, this conversation is your playbook. (00:00) Introduction (01:14) Sales & Speaking Equals Energy Transfer (03:27) Growing Up Broke To Learning Sales Early (05:24) First Business at 11: Blackberries & Hustle (07:04) Why Excellence Pays, Mediocrity Doesn't (10:10) People Don't Want Millions, They Want to Consume Them (16:07) Building Phoenix Consulting After 2008 (28:27) Empathy-Driven Selling: Treat People Like Grandma (31:12) Sales Is Communication & Leadership (38:29) Money Buys Options, Not Meaning 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Sabastian Enges Website: https://www.sabastianenges.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sabastianenges TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sabastianenges Twitter: https://x.com/sabastianenges LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabastianenges Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SabastianEnges

Aug 27, 2025 • 48min
Authenticity Is Your Greatest Sales Advantage with Matt Gottesman | Ep 386
Consistency builds trust. Perfectionism kills progress. In this episode, Jeremy Miner sits down with Matt Gottesman, 3x founder, top-ranked podcaster, and creator of The Niche Is You®, to unpack the real psychology of building a brand that actually lasts. Matt shares how to resist chasing trends, why devotion beats discipline, and the simple shifts that will keep your audience loyal for years. Whether you're a creator, entrepreneur, or sales professional, this conversation will help you align your work with who you really are and build something people can trust. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (05:24) Why Consistency Builds Trust and Authority (09:42) Stop Trying to Be the Next Someone Else (15:09) Evolving Without Losing Your Core Identity (17:29) Devotion vs Discipline in Mastery (26:05) Authenticity, Trust, and Building in Public (39:28) Clarity, Decisions, and Trusting Yourself 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Matt Gottesman Substack: https://mattgottesman.substack.com The Niche Is You® Podcast: https://mattgottesman.com/podcast Website: https://mattgottesman.com/about Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattgottesman YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCMYfij15oGv5K8ty1y-2JWg

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Aug 20, 2025 • 45min
The Science of Attraction In Sales & Dating with Veronika Szumska | Ep 385
Veronika Szumska, a high-ticket sales professional and dating coach, shares her insights on the surprising parallels between sales and dating. She emphasizes how mastery of energy and self-worth can lead to success in both realms. Veronika discusses the power of femininity in sales, the importance of tonalities for building trust, and how speaking multiple languages can enhance personal connections. Additionally, she explores the delicate balance of ambition and genuine connection, while encouraging a return to traditional values in modern relationships.

Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 10min
How To Build Trust & Sell Without Pressure with Eli Wilde | Ep 384
If you want to close more sales without using pushy tactics, this conversation with my friend Eli Wilde will show you exactly how to do it. Eli was Tony Robbins' top salesperson, generating tens of millions in revenue, and now coaches top entrepreneurs, salespeople, and speakers on building influence that buyers trust. We cover the "Trust Trinity" framework, how to shift a prospect's identity so objections disappear before they surface, and the tonality skills that keep people engaged. Whether you're selling one-to-one, from stage, or through content, you'll walk away knowing how to create real urgency and make it easy for prospects to say yes with confidence. Chapters (00:00) Introduction & Eli's Background with Tony Robbins (04:12) Why Trust is the Real Currency in Sales (10:45) The "Trust Trinity" Framework for Influence (17:02) Identity Shifts That Remove Objections Before They Arise (24:18) Tonality & Presence: How to Keep Prospects Engaged (30:56) Selling from Stage vs. One-to-One Conversations (39:20) Building Urgency Without Pressure (46:05) Final Takeaways & How to Apply These Skills Today 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Eli Wilde YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@eliwilde858 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eliwilde_sales


