

The Whole Therapist
Abby & Kellee
Leaving the theorizing out and exploring this strange phenomenon of being a human and a therapist. Abby and Kellee explore the embodied experience of neuroscience and authenticity in the therapy room.
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Feb 11, 2021 • 31min
Saying and Sitting with Goodbye
We hold stories of goodbyes long before we are Earth-side. Goodbyes are very much a part of the therapeutic relationship. Abby and Kellee touch on how goodbyes show up in the therapy space and how goodbyes have shown up in their personal lives. If our bodies hold stories from long ago around goodbyes, are we aware of how these stories are carried into our therapeutic work with clients? Abby and Kellee wonder out loud if goodbyes are actually the richest work we’ll do with any one of our clients.Topics Touched on:Robyn Gobbel: https://robyngobbel.comBonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.comCircle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.comEmbodying Epigenetics Training: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/embodying-epigenetics-the-story-of-our-cells-tickets-136049097513FOLLOW US: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Feb 9, 2021 • 35min
Safety in the Therapy Space: An Interview with Norina Asante
Abby and Kellee introduce their first guest of the podcast! Norina Asante who is a first-generation Ghanaian-American. Norina gives the listener(s) her lived experience around being a therapist of color in the mental health field, particularly during 2020, and also shares some more personal stories around being a woman of color. Norina describes for the listener(s) what support has been most healing for her, and what she believes therapist can offer to their clients to create healing; deep listening and presence. Norina addresses the work that we must all do to heal our communities. RESOURCES:Opportunities for White People in the Fight for Racial Justice https://www.whiteaccomplices.org/?utm_campaign=Racial%20Trauma%20Webinar%20June%202020&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=109425188&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--B0b2ZXz6BRZGf68vaXuRJvuEWdAgOdnblChFxCWCqPiXn8BcOM9VXz1QKi9fTNuyA5UR4BpEFb9X8V-Ba-_Bof9fRSA&utm_content=109425188&utm_source=hs_emailAnti-Racism Daily Newsletter https://www.antiracismdaily.com/?utm_campaign=Racial%20Trauma%20Webinar%20June%202020&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=109425188&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-82CkKYZkFfwXl_nmCvdbjOjynoA5fp3FZ47FxmRG3tGs6sBHslIpsD4ufeDciMjZEBD5XtM_ywvHtrYUQHLehCMKInIA&utm_content=109425188&utm_source=hs_emailSeeing White https://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/?utm_campaign=Racial%20Trauma%20Webinar%20June%202020&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=109425188&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8-gTj_l6fP4tvQjXPnSa3DG7p1uxah1uX_IMdQbMrhsiz3OvJ83Zzn_VUzqM-SvAwMEm6nbNT44dTPE7rquxIl2CBJyQ&utm_content=109425188&utm_source=hs_emailIf you want to continue this conversation Motivo provides free peer consultation groups on a couple of topics relevant to racial equity: https://www.motivo.community/events?utm_campaign=Racial%20Trauma%20Webinar%20June%202020&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=109425188&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_l49l_4HHW5SxZ2anKRTSzQiAUqJWsB7FOi4j-ivRuLMpQ8WwriNq9JADPJIiBcg3SsVX7Ut_712BHPlZgozv7Y6zwhw&utm_content=109425188&utm_source=hs_emailEmbodying Epigenetics Training: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/embodying-epigenetics-the-story-of-our-cells-tickets-13604909Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Jan 26, 2021 • 20min
Season TWO: Transforming in Transition
Abby and Kellee are back for season 2! There is a bit of a reunion feel to this first episode of season 2. Abby and Kellee fill in the gaps of what they have been up to since taking a break after season 1. They start touching on the topic of transitions and explore this idea that we cannot return to “what was;” We transform in transitions. Topics Touched on:Michael Hamm: https://www.integrativebodyworkeducation.comCircle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.comEmbodying Epigenetics Training: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/embodying-epigenetics-the-story-of-our-cells-tickets-136049097513FOLLOW US: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/Email us:wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.comFollow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Dec 10, 2020 • 35min
Dear Therapists: Hope for the Holidays
Kellee and Abby come back for an encore in Season 1! They explore the layers of the upcoming holidays, winter moving in, and the pandemic worsening. In this episode they are curious about the mystical powers the cold may have, the need for preparation in a winter season, and the life that is actually present when something appears dead. Stay tuned for the end of this episode as there are some special guests at that end to offer messages of hope, and a remarkable song that carries a soothing tune for the weary therapist's soul.Topics Touched On:Winter: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times by Katherine May The Keep Going Song by Abigail and Shaun Bengson (used with permission): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs-ju_L9pEQSpecial Guests: Rachel Rossi: https://rachelrossicounseling.comLisa Dion: https://lisa-dion.comKaren Doyle Buckwalter: https://northstarconsultingassociates.com/karen-doyle-buckwalter-lcsw/Meghan Gentry, LCSW Deb Wesslemann: http://www.atcnebraska.com/team/deb-wesselmann/Marshall Lyles : https://www.marshalllyles.comFOLLOW US: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/Email us:wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.comFollow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Nov 24, 2020 • 24min
BONUS EPISODE: Epigenetics: The Arrow Pointing to Hope
Abby and Kellee take listeners on an exciting scientific journey exploring the idea that are genes are not stagnant and unchanging. They spend time helping the listener understand what a gene is, and how epigenetics is related to our genes. They explore conditions that are created in the environment that lead our genes to be expressed or not expressed like: mental health, obesity. physical ailments, disease, etc. They find hope in their discussion along the way, noting the environment we create for our clients can truly change the genes and therefore future generations to come. Topics Touched On:Moshe Szyf: https://www.ted.com/speakers/moshe_szyfBruce H. Lipton, PhD: https://www.brucelipton.com/books/biology-of-belief FOLLOW US: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.comFollow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Nov 17, 2020 • 14min
BONUS EPISODE: What is Implicit and Explicit Memory?
Under healthy conditions implicit and explicit memory are happening at the same time. Abby and Kellee define these terms and identify where these types of memory live within the brain. Several examples are given about each type of memory, and how trauma can impact our implicit and explicit memory. Topics Touched On:Dr. Dan Siegel - https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-toleranceBonnie Badenoch- https://www.nurturingtheheart.comQuestion: Can you pick one client and begin to notice what is happening for you implicitly, or what’s happening between the two of you implicitly? FOLLOW US: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Nov 10, 2020 • 21min
Protecting Our Energy
Exploring the delicate balance of supporting clients while safeguarding their own well-being, the hosts delve into the importance of protecting energy in therapy. They discuss practical strategies like using documentation, rituals, and sensory experiences to transition from intense sessions. The conversation highlights the value of collegial support, physical cleanup, and personal boundaries. With tools like breath anchors and visualization techniques, they guide listeners on how to reclaim energy and foster resilience in their practice.

Nov 3, 2020 • 32min
Making Meaning in Messiness
Abby and Kellee start by briefly summarizing The Power of Discord and discuss how this book inspired them to put out this episode around meaning making. Abby and Kellee explore how meaning making is intertwined in all we do and marvel at meaning making beginning at a molecular level. They use this episode to share more vulnerable parts of themselves to help the listener connect to this idea of meaning making, and the implications it has for therapists and clients in the therapy room. Topics Touched on:The Power of Discord: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Discord-Relationships-Building-Resilience/dp/0316488879/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2OXST7GJAFP35&dchild=1&keywords=power+of+discord&qid=1604370399&sprefix=power+of+di%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-1Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com/login/?mepr-unauth-page=1994&redirect_to=%2Fmembers%2Fmy-profile%2FDeb Dana: https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/deb-dana/Lisa Dion: https://lisa-dion.comBonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.comKaren Buckwalter podcast: https://attachmenttheoryinaction.podbean.comEpigenetics: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392256/Ana Gomez: https://www.anagomez.orgMarshall Lyles: https://www.marshalllyles.comHYGGE: http://hyggehouse.com/hyggehttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3083029/ FOLLOW US: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Oct 27, 2020 • 20min
Part Two: Political Stress in the Therapy Room
We are 7 days from Election Day! In this two part episode series Abby and Kellee move right into where they left off from Part 1 of Political Stress in Therapy Room. Coming from a nervous system perspective Abby and Kellee further explore why naming political stress out loud in the therapy room helps create safety, gives opportunity for rupture, and ultimately bringing repair and thus a deeper connection between therapists and their clients. Abby and Kellee move the conversation to reflective functioning, and wonder together why there are not trainings for therapists to talk about politics with their clients. Topics Touched on:Peter Fonagy- https://www.ucl.ac.uk/psychoanalysis/people/peter-fonagyDebra Wesselmann- http://www.atcnebraska.com/team/deb-wesselmann/Reflective Functioning- https://www.ucl.ac.uk/psychoanalysis/research/reflective-functioning-questionnaire-rfqCited Research Articles:Van Berkum, J. J. A., Holleman, B., Nieuwland, M., Otten, M., & Murre, J. (2009). Right or wrong? The brain’s fast response to morally objectionable statements. Psychological Science, 20(9), 1092–1099.https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9280.2009.02411.xResources: Dr. Chaitra Wirta-Leiker’s - https://www.growbeyondwords.com/books-videos/VOTE! https://howto.voteFOLLOW US: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com

Oct 20, 2020 • 27min
Part One: Political Stress in the Therapy Room
Election day is just 2 WEEKS away! Clients, therapists, and humans collectively are ALL feeling it. Join Abby and Kellee as they discuss political stress: what it is, why we in the field need to care, and how our responses to election-induced stress and political attitudes influence the nervous system.Topics Touched on:Dr Dan Siegel re: River of Mental Wellness: https://www.drdansiegel.com/Dr Stephen Porges re: states of our ANS: https://www.stephenporges.com/Bowlby's Stages of Grief: BOWLBY J. Processes of mourning. Int J Psychoanal. 1961 Jul-Oct;42:317-40. PMID: 13872076.Cited Research Articles:Kanai, R., Feilden, T., Firth, C., & Rees, G. (2011). Political orientations are correlated with brain structure in young adults. Current Biology, 21(8), 677–680. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2011.03.017McAdams, D. P., Hanek, K. J., & Dadabo, J. G. (2013). Themes of self-regulation and self-exploration in the life stories of religious American conservatives and liberals. Political Psychology, 34(2), 201–219. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-9221.2012.00933.xFOLLOW US: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website:https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com


