Reboot Business

In this episode, Julien Devaureix speaks with Nora Bateson, filmmaker, writer, and president of theInternational Bateson Institute. Together they explore how to navigate today’s complex world through systems thinking, relational approaches, and Nora’s concept of warm data. Drawing from her book Combining, Nora shares why solutions can’t be isolated, how identity and intergenerational living shape our future, and why cultivating an ecology of communication is key to creating authentic hope and thriving life.Episode timestamps00:00: Introduction & Nora’s background; her work on perceiving interdependencies in living systems.00:04: Nora’s “meadow” metaphor for complexity and the relational conditions shaping life .00:16: The problem with reductionism, education, and focusing on isolated “problems” .00:34: Reading from Combining; the meaning of “combining” vs. “combined” — life as ongoing movement .00:43: Redefining “problems” and “solutions”; towards an “ecology of communication” .00:54: On double binds, transcontextual issues, and why her “goal” is to create possibility and vitality .01:00: The importance of “warm data” and the loss of intergenerational living practices .01:06: On false hope vs. real hope; unexpected cultural change (example: Cardi B’s WAP) .01:10: Culture, art, and the need for more “weirdness” and creativity in change-making .01:15: Closing poem Mama Now — a reflection on parenting, integrity, and uncertaintyHosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

In this episode, Julien speaks with Steffen Müller, head of Salesforce's Sustainability & Transformation Advisory team, about how companies can align technology, data, and AI with their ecological goals. From carbon accounting to AI’s environmental impact, they explore how sustainability is becoming a core business strategy—not just a compliance issue.Episode timestamps00:00 Introduction – The shifting context for business and Stefan Müller’s journey02:50 Why some companies are backpedaling on sustainability—and why others are not05:30 Corporate ecological transition: Where are we really?07:30 Finance and nature: Understanding the $7 trillion gap09:20 Geopolitical contrasts: US, EU, and China in the sustainability race12:30 Beyond carbon: Measuring waste, water, and biodiversity impact15:00 Tackling Scope 3: From spend-based data to real supplier metrics18:15 Ensuring data integrity: Verification, auditability, and trust22:00 AI’s footprint: The hidden environmental cost of artificial intelligence27:30 Designing sustainable AI: Small models, smart principles, and market influence32:00 AI for good: Empowering farmers, NGOs, and regenerative practices34:20 The rise of the “sustainability technologist” and evolving team structures36:40 From dashboards to decisions: Embedding sustainability in business systems40:10 Case study: Manufacturing, CRM integration, and incentivizing low-impact choices44:30 Regenerative business: Tech as a tool—if used with intent47:50 The reboot button: Rethinking the concept of “we”51:30 Closing thoughts and a call for integrity-driven transformationHosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

In this episode, Julien speaks with Alexandra Palt, recently appointed President of WWF France. Alexandra shares her unique journey from human rights lawyer to Chief Sustainability Officer at L'Oreal, where she drove ambitious transformation, to leading France's largest environmental NGO. The conversation explores the challenges of driving sustainability from within large corporations, the structural hurdles faced when profit and sustainability collide, insights from her experience navigating the "sustainability hype" and backlash, and her research on ethical leadership and the virtues necessary for leaders today. Alexandra also discusses the role of NGOs like WWF, the importance of local action and cooperation, and identifies the awareness of sustainable value chains as an underrated solution for businesses. This episode offers a profound look at navigating complex environmental and social challenges and redefining impact.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Otto Scharmer, a Senior Lecturer at MIT and creator of Theory U, explores the urgent need for transformation in the business landscape. He discusses how systems thinking can address interconnected crises like environmental degradation and inequality. Scharmer introduces Theory U as a pathway to elevate consciousness and co-create solutions. He emphasizes the importance of mindfulness and deep listening as tools for leaders to shape the future. Ultimately, he advocates for personal awareness and collective engagement to drive meaningful change.

In this conversation, visionary thinker Paul Hawken discusses the urgent need for a fundamental shift in how we approach business and our relationship with the planet. He emphasizes that merely doing less harm isn’t enough—businesses must actively do good. Highlighting the interconnectedness of carbon, biodiversity, and social justice, he advocates for integrating indigenous wisdom to tackle ecological issues. Paul also explores the transition from sustainability to true regeneration, urging a holistic approach to corporate practices for future generations.

Gaya Herrington, économètre et chercheuse en développement durable, met à jour l'étude 'Limits to Growth' et plaide pour un changement radical vers une économie du bien-être. Elle explique que la décroissance ne signifie pas un effondrement, mais un rééquilibrage. Les entreprises doivent reconsidérer leurs objectifs face aux limites environnementales. L'importance de la résilience sur l'efficacité est également soulignée, tout comme le besoin d'adopter des pratiques plus durables pour un avenir inclusif et éthique.

This episode features a thought-provoking conversation with Dennis Meadows, co-author of the seminal 1972 report Limits to Growth.Meadows explores the consequences of humanity’s pursuit of infinite growth in a finite world and the urgent need to shift our focus from sustainability to resilience.The discussion dives into the challenges of systemic change, including the societal and political resistance to acknowledging physical and planetary boundaries. Drawing from decades of research and observation, Meadows shares insights on adapting to a post-growth economy, fostering resilience at individual and community levels, and rethinking long-term goals in the face of ecological and societal constraints.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

This episode features an interview of Lubomila Jordanova, a sustainability expert, discussing the complexities of corporate decarbonisation. Lubomila Jordanova details her work with Plan A, a SaaS platform for carbon management, and the Green Tech Alliance, a community supporting green entrepreneurs. The conversation explores obstacles to corporate sustainability, including confusing reporting standards, short-term versus long-term pressures, and the need for a unified approach to reporting and action. Finally, Jordanova underscores the crucial role of data and technology in accelerating the transition, advocating for a holistic approach that prioritises both economic and environmental sustainability.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

In this special episode of Reboot Business, we revisit a powerful conversation with Paul Watson, the legendary captain and founder of Sea Shepherd. Watson, currently imprisoned for his activism, discusses his biocentric worldview, the importance of ocean conservation, and the role of aggressive nonviolence in environmental activism. This episode is a reminder that the business world can only thrive if the living world does.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Au fil des podcasts Reboot se dessine une ligne convergente vers l’urgence impérieuse de changer le système dans sa globalité.C’est particulièrement vrai pour le fonctionnement de la sphère de la finance qui dicte les règles du jeu d’un marché capitaliste et libéral qui impacte directement sur la vie des citoyens de l’ensemble de la planète alors qu’elle est complètement déconnectée de l’économie réelle.Face à cette tâche titanesque, Eva Sadoun, 32 ans, s’attelle à rendre visibles et compréhensibles les mécanismes qui régissent le milieu opaque et élitiste de la finance qu’elle qualifie de prédateur.Elle propose d’opérer des modifications stratégiques sur ces mécanismes comme première étape à l’invention d’un nouveau modèle économique vertueux. Elle présente une vision de l’économie inspirée en partie de l’écoféminisme comme une puissance de transition écologique et sociale forte à l’image du leadership actuel en Nouvelle-Zélande ou en Finlande.Au cœur de cette économie alternative, une finance citoyenne et l’entreprise, capable de créer un véritable impact social et environnemental quand les cadres politiques et légaux le permettent.Eva est entrepreneuse, économiste et licenciée en philosophie. Convaincue de la nécessité de faire glisser la pensée à l’action pour provoquer le changement, elle a fondé deux entreprises dont Lita.co, une plateforme d’investissement responsable, et l’application Rift qui permet de suivre l’impact sociétal et environnemental d’une épargne citoyenne.Eva est également activiste et représentante du Mouvement Impact France qu’elle présente comme une alternative au MEDEF.Elle est l’auteure du livre « Une Économie à nous » paru en février 2022 aux Éditions Acte Sud par lequel elle souhaite donner aux citoyens « des clés de compréhension de notre économie en identifiant les verrous à une économie plus juste et durable ».Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.