
Pineland Underground
The official podcast of the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School at Fort Liberty, North Carolina. SGM Riley and MAJ Holzmann embark on a journey to provide the best podcast in the military with bi-monthly relentless awesomeness. Real. Bold. Un-restricted.
Latest episodes

Jun 10, 2022 • 58min
Medal of Honor | SGM Matt Williams. Valor, Texas and Special Forces.
Medal of Honor recipient SGM Matt Williams visits the Falcon Snail Pub to talk about growing up in a small Texas town, his road to becoming a Special Forces Green Beret, life on a Special Forces A-Team, and what it's like being an active-duty Medal of Honor recipient still serving at the tactical level. Matt served on a team within the 3rd Special Forces Group Airborne that had over 16 Silver Star recipients and two Medal of Honor Recipients. Matt shares his story with us as well as the leadership lessons he has learned and teaches in his daily life as a Special Forces Soldier.

May 27, 2022 • 1h 57min
War Machine | Living Tissue Over Metal Endoskeleton CW2 Nick Lavery
CW2 Nick Lavery is an active-duty member of The United States Army Special Forces. On his second combat rotation to Afghanistan he and his Detachment fell victim to an insider attack ultimately resulting in the loss of his leg. Following a year of surgeries and initial recovery including the use of a prosthetic at Walter Reed National Medical Military Center, he returned to his unit. Refusing a military medical retirement, Nick set his sights on returning to operational status. At the conclusion of a brutal assessment designed to evaluate Nick's abilities to operate, he returned to his Detachment and was subsequently deployed once again to Afghanistan conducting full spectrum combat operations. Nick is considered the first Special Forces operator to return to combat as an above-the-knee amputee. He is also the first amputee to complete the Special Forces Warrant Officer Technical and Tactical Certification course, the Special Operations Combatives Program Instructor course, and the Combat Diver Qualification course in military history.

May 13, 2022 • 59min
E-Tool Nation | #ISIS_SurrenderOrDie - John Wayne Troxell
E-Tool Nation host and SEAC(R) John Wayne Troxell joins us on this episode discussing topics ranging from serving as the most senior enlisted member of the United States Armed Forces to the moment in time that will forever bond him with an entrenching tool. With over 37 years of service in the United States Army, Troxell shares his experiences with leadership at every level.

Apr 29, 2022 • 59min
From Officer to CEO | Hibbett Sports CEO Mike Longo and Author Mike Lerario
While Bobby is off doing “Officer things” Chuck sits down with retired SOF West Point alum who are crushing it in life after wearing the U.S. Army uniform. From best hiring practices, changing the culture of a business and the aftermath of consuming an entire pitcher of Harvey Wallbangers, Hibbitt City Gear CEO Mike Longo and author Mike Lerario provide world class information for anyone entering the civilian workplace with military experience.

Apr 15, 2022 • 54min
Ranger Roach | No $hit There I Was
Bobby and Chuck take a special trip back to listen to their very first recorded podcast together with special guest COL (R) Jim Roach. Hold on to your seats for this one. The Legend Ranger Roach takes us on an adventure through Vietnam and special life events. You don’t want to miss this one!

Apr 1, 2022 • 1h 4min
Brackforce #1 | I Thought I killed Bin Laden and the dangers of misusing myself
On today’s episode we are joined with MSG Chad Brack from the Non Commissioned Officers Academy. We take a personal look into the story of one Special Forces soldier’s accounts on the importance of education, teamwork, deployments to Afghanistan, and the time he thought that his team killed Bin Laden.

Mar 18, 2022 • 1h 19min
Robin Sage and Unconventional Warfare | The real story of the Special Forces culmination exercise
On today’s episode we are joined with the SWCS Chief of Staff COL Stu Farris, and MSG (Ret) Chris Rogers. We discuss unconventional warfare and how it applies to the Special Forces culminating exercise known as Robin Sage. We address some common misconceptions that typically are associated with military exercises that occur within the local population to help inform and educate the public.Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Hc8cA7jwanKhkU4bed6BwDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCSContact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Major Bobby Tuttle - Director as the SWCS Language, Regional Education and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttlePineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella

Mar 3, 2022 • 1h 5min
Applied Design for Innovation | Graduate Program for Warfighters and Innovation Brokers
On today's episode we are at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, CA and are joined by Dr. Leo Blanken, MAJ Shawn Redding, MAJ Scott Rowan, and CDR Justin Davis. We discuss applied design for innovation, defense analysis, and the importance of technology to our SOF and partner forces.

Feb 25, 2022 • 1h 16min
Back to the Future | LTG(R) Tovo Reflects on the Cold War and the Future of Army SOF
We had the honor of having LTG(R) Ken Tovo back at the Falcon Snail Pub to record a new episode of Pineland Underground. We discussed the modern geopolitical battlefield, the daily, and weekly life of a general, life lessons and his thoughts of the fundamentals of leaderships that transcend the tactical to strategic levels. His precision in speech never ceases to impress.Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Hc8cA7jwanKhkU4bed6BwDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCSContact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Major Bobby Tuttle - Director as the SWCS Language, Regional Education and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttlePineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella

Feb 4, 2022 • 1h 11min
Forged In Fire | SGM Chuck Ritter. Mindset, Recovery and Perseverance
On today's episode, we are joined by SGM Chuck Ritter, SGM Jimmy Dauteuil, and MAJ James Blackburn. In this episode, we hear the story of SGM Ritter's actions in combat, his road to recovery following his injuries, and his drive to get back into the fight. We discuss 'shifting mindset' - from failing Bowling Class at community college to leading Green Berets in battle. Stories to Robin Sage, it's never cool to be ignorant and knowing the difference between Army Special Forces and other Special Operation Units.SGM Chuck Ritter currently serves as the Deputy Commandant of the Army Special Operations NCO Academy. SGM Jimmy Dauteuil serves as the Command Sergeant Major of 1st Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group and MAJ James Blackburn serves as the Language, Regional Education, and Culture Director at the Special Warfare Center and School. Chuck Ritter contact and social media:charles.p.ritter@gmail.comChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videoswww.facebook.com/chuck.ritter.12Chuck Ritter (@ChuckRitter7) / Twitter