
Pineland Underground
The official podcast of the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School at Fort Liberty, North Carolina. SGM Riley and MAJ Holzmann embark on a journey to provide the best podcast in the military with bi-monthly relentless awesomeness. Real. Bold. Un-restricted.
Latest episodes

Sep 30, 2022 • 56min
The Masks We Wear | The dangers of compartmentalizing our mental struggles with Special Forces SGM Josh Thompson
Special Forces Sergeant Major Josh Thompson walks us through his thought process on writing The Mask We Wear. An article concerning the ease at which Special Operations personnel hide their internal struggles from their families, friends, and even themselves. The Mask We Wear was a potent and helpful piece on mental health published by the Havok Journal. Now we hear the words and personal struggles of the man who penned this article. This episode is part two of a two-part Suicide Prevention and Awareness month series. Check out Episode #48. When the Wolves Come Knocking for episode one!Military Crisis Line- Dial 988, then Press 1, or Text 838255Embedded Behavioral Health: (Ft. Bragg/WHSC) 910-907-6825On Call Duty Chaplain: (Ft. Bragg, 24/7) 910-396-4357Watters Family Life Chaplain Training Center: Free, 100% confidential Pastoral Counseling for Military ID card holders and dependents. Bldg 1-3358 Knox St, Ft. Bragg. Call 910-396-6564.Confidential & free non-medical counseling addresses issues such as improving relationships at home and work, stress management, adjustment difficulties, parenting, and grief or loss:Military and Family Life Counselors, Ft. Bragg: Call 910-432-3742 or 910-396-8683Military OneSource 1-800-342-9647Fayetteville VET Center- Free counseling and resources for Veterans & family members. Call 910-488-6252 for more information or to schedule an appointment.Warriors Heart - www. warriorsheart.com | 855-960-5405Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:(1) Pineland Underground Podcast - YouTubeDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCS Contact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Twitter@chuckritter7 Major Bobby Tuttle - Director of the SWCS Language, Regional Education, and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttle Pineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamJason Gambardella#pinelandunderground #bestpodcastinthemilitary #relentlessawesomeness #specialoperation #usajfkswcs #chuckritter #bobbytuttle #mentalhealth #resiliency #community #specialforces

Sep 16, 2022 • 1h 47min
When the Wolves Come Knocking | From the brink of suicide to running a 100 mile ultra-marathon
Special Forces Soldier, Sergeant First Class Mike Fiocca, takes us through his mental struggles, which took him to the point of having a gun to his head but then persevering through an arduous recovery that culminated with him running a 100-mile ultra-marathon. He shares his personal story, hoping it may help those struggling through internal issues in silence. This episode is part one of a two-part Suicide Prevention and Awareness month series. Check out Episode #49. The Masks We Wear on 30 September for part two!Additional Mental Health Resources:Military Crisis Line- Dial 988, then Press 1, or Text 838255Embedded Behavioral Health: (Ft. Bragg/WHSC) 910-907-6825On Call Duty Chaplain: (Ft. Bragg, 24/7) 910-396-4357Watters Family Life Chaplain Training Center: Free, 100% confidential Pastoral Counseling for Military ID card holders and dependents. Bldg 1-3358 Knox St, Ft. Bragg. Call 910-396-6564.Confidential & free non-medical counseling addresses issues such as improving relationships at home and work, stress management, adjustment difficulties, parenting, and grief or loss:Military and Family Life Counselors, Ft. Bragg: Call 910-432-3742 or 910-396-8683Military OneSource 1-800-342-9647Fayetteville VET Center- Free counseling and resources for Veterans & family members. Call 910-488-6252 for more information or to schedule an appointment.Warriors Heart - www. warriorsheart.com | 855-960-5405Contact Mike Fioccaoneinchvictories@gmail.comEmail Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:(1) Pineland Underground Podcast - YouTubeDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCS Contact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Twitter@chuckritter7 Major Bobby Tuttle - Director of the SWCS Language, Regional Education, and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttle Pineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamJason Gambardella#pinelandunderground #bestpodcastinthemilitary #relentlessawesome #specialoperation #usajfkswcs #chuckritter #bobbytuttle #mentalhealth #resiliency #community #specialforces

Sep 2, 2022 • 1h 27min
Cry Havok and Release the Dogs of Critical Thinking | LTC Charles Faint from the Modern War Institute/Owner of the Havok Journal
A no BS, thoughtful, yet entertaining conversation on the topic of Critical Thinking between SGM Chuck Ritter and LTC Charles Faint from the Modern War Institute at West Point. LTC Charles Faint is currently stationed at the United States Military Academy at West Point. He serves as the Chair for the Study of Special Operations at the Modern War Institute. Before coming to West Point, LTC Faint completed seven combat deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan and operational tours in Egypt, the Republic of Korea, and The Philippines. A career Military Intelligence officer, he also served in various units, including the 5th Special Forces Group, the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, and the Joint Special Operations Command. LTC Faint holds five college degrees, the most recent of which is from Yale University. He owns the popular blog The Havok Journal and is the Executive Director of the non-profit veterans’ advocacy organization The Second Mission Foundation.SGM Chuck Ritter is a Special Forces Sergeant Major and serves as the Deputy Commandant at the United States Army Special Warfare Center and School Noncommissioned Officer Academy. He also co-produces/hosts the SWCS Pineland Underground Podcast. Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:(1) Pineland Underground Podcast - YouTubeDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCS Modern War Institute, Havok Journal, and Charles FaintModern War Institute - (usma.edu)The Havok Journal • The Voice of the Veteran Community Contact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Twitter@chuckritter7 Major Bobby Tuttle - Director of the SWCS Language, Regional Education, and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttle Pineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella #pinelandunderground #bestpodcastinthemilitary #relentlessawesome #specialoperation #usajfkswcs #chuckritter #bobbytuttle

Aug 26, 2022 • 1h 11min
BCE-1 : Bobby Chuck Experience #1 | Exactly like JRE (Joe Rogan Experience) only completely different
(Bonus Episode) Pineland Underground Podcasts hosts Bobby Tuttle, and Chuck Ritter have themselves on the show as podcast guests. They discuss the importance of Professional Military Education, attempt to get each other fired, the dangers of rank entitlement, proper mindset moving to a new position, life on a Special Forces Detachment, and take the time to run their mouths about countless other excellent topics. Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:(1) Pineland Underground Podcast - YouTubeDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCS Contact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Twitter@chuckritter7 Major Bobby Tuttle - Director of the SWCS Language, Regional Education, and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttle Pineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella #pinelandunderground #bestpodcastinthemilitary #relentlessawesome #swcs

Aug 19, 2022 • 1h 24min
From the Horse's Mouth | A no BS conversation with the Command Team of the Army's Special Warfare Center and School
Major Bobby Tuttle and Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter sit down with Major General Patrick Roberson and Chief Warrant Officer Five Stephen Frazier for a no-BS conversation on the current status of the Army's Special Warfare Center and School, Q-Course optimization, the health of the force, and the future plans for Army Special Operations. Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:(1) Pineland Underground Podcast - YouTubeDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCS Contact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Twitter@chuckritter7 Major Bobby Tuttle - Director of the SWCS Language, Regional Education, and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttleEmailbobby.tuttle@gmail.com Pineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella

Aug 5, 2022 • 1h 52min
Shenanigans | One man's journey from Irish Special Forces to a Mogadishu mercenary to U.S. Green Beret
Full Spectrum Special Operations (Special Forces). MSG(R) Kevin Owens takes us through his journey from joining the Irish Army, being in an Irish Counter Terrorist unit, serving as a security contractor in Mogadishu, Somalia in 1993, joining the U.S. Army, surviving Special Forces selection, combating Al Qaeda in Iraq, the Taliban in Afghanistan as a Green Beret, retiring and then his life now running the Field Craft Survival office in North Carolina. Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebook(1) U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School | Facebook Contact Fieldcraft or Kevin Owens:Field Craft Survival WebsiteFieldcraft Survival | Survival Gear & TrainingKevin Owens InstagramTrain, Coach, Mentor (@kevin.p.owens) • Instagram photos and videos Contact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Major Bobby Tuttle - Director as the SWCS Language, Regional Education and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttlePineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella

Jul 29, 2022 • 1h 42min
Atomic Programming | Physical and Mental Fitness Programming for Special Operations (Bonus Episode)
Owner of Atomic Athlete, Jake Saenz, and United States Army Special Warfare Center and School Athletic Trainer, Aaron Craft, discuss how to train for Special Operation Selections, the Army Combat Fitness Test and life in general. We discuss physical and mental aspects of training as well as injury prevention. Jake is a former Army Ranger and has been training and teaching physical fitness for over 20 years. Aaron is a former collegiate level athletic trainer and has been training Special Operations Forces for over 9 years. Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Hc8cA7jwanKhkU4bed6BwDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCS Contact Atomic Athlete:Atomic Athlete Websitehttps://atomic-athlete.com Contact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12 Major Bobby Tuttle - Director as the SWCS Language, Regional Education and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttle Pineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella

Jul 22, 2022 • 1h 17min
Ghosts in the Machine | Full Spectrum Special Operations (PSYOP)
MAJ Lamb, creator of the provocative PSYOP video 'Ghosts in the Machine,' joins MAJ Holzmann, a PSYOP history expert. They unpack the impact of psychological operations, revealing how past strategies shaped modern military tactics. The duo discusses the ethics of deception in warfare and raises intriguing questions about influence in recruitment. They delve into the video’s emotional layers and the unintended effects of viral media. Prepare for a thought-provoking exploration of military strategy and psychological warfare!

Jul 8, 2022 • 1h 32min
Full Spectrum Special Operations (Civil Affairs) | Rob McQueen
We sit down with Civil Affairs legend Rob McQueen to discuss how to properly use the entire toolkit of capabilities within the U.S. Army Special Operations construct. We deep dive into how to best combine Special Forces, Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations to achieve effects across the globe. We also dive into the current geopolitical game, Ukraine, and non-profit organizations. Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Hc8cA7jwanKhkU4bed6BwDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCSContact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Major Bobby Tuttle - Director as the SWCS Language, Regional Education and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttlePineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella

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Jun 24, 2022 • 1h 56min
Leadership in the Shadows | CSM (R) Kyle Lamb
Lessons in leadership from legendary Delta Force operator, and VikingTactics owner Kyle Lamb, COL (retired) Tim Ladouceur, CSM Sean Mullins and COL Stu Farris.Email Us!pinelandunderground@gmail.comUSAJFKSWCS InstagramSpecial Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videosUSAJFKSWCS Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/YOUTUBE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Hc8cA7jwanKhkU4bed6BwDVIDS:https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/USAJFKSWCSContact Atomic Athlete:Atomic Athlete Websitehttps://atomic-athlete.comContact the Hosts:Sergeant Major Chuck Ritter - Deputy Commandant at the SWCS Noncommissioned Officer AcademyChuck Ritter InstagramChuck Ritter (@charles.p.ritter) • Instagram photos and videosChuck Ritter LinkedInwww.linkedin.com/in/chuckritterspecialforcesChuck Ritter Facebookcharles.ritter.12Major Bobby Tuttle - Director as the SWCS Language, Regional Education and Culture officeBobby Tuttle FacebookBobby Tuttle | FacebookBobby Tuttle LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbytuttlePineland Underground Recording and Editing TeamTommy StanleyJason Gambardella