
The TrainingBeta Podcast: A Climbing Training Podcast
Hosted by climber, nutritionist, and mindset coach, Neely Quinn, The TrainingBeta Podcast is a regular conversation with rock climbing’s best and brightest, including pro rock climbers, climbing trainers, and other insightful members of the climbing community. You’ll learn how to train for climbing, how to fuel yourself well for climbing, and mindset strategies to help you perform well on the wall and have a great time doing it. Whether you’re a beginner climber or a seasoned pro, you’ll learn something from these conversations, or at the very least, get really stoked to climb and train.
Latest episodes

Dec 14, 2022 • 1h 17min
TBP 221: Good Crag Etiquette for Great Climbing Days
In this episode, Coach Matt Pincus and I discuss the extremely important topic of crag etiquette. As more climbers join the sport and crags and boulder fields become more crowded, there’s a growing need for us all to be on the same page about who gets to climb when, how to communicate with each other, and what our expectations are of each other in general.
This conversation’s purpose is to bring some difficult topics into the light and hopefully to help climbers understand each other better, have more tools to use with each other in sticky situations, and to–more than anything–help us all have an amazing and safe time climbing outside with each other.
Here’s what we talked about:
Communication
a. Who’s climbing when
b. For how long
c. Permission to join bouldering crew
d. Brush holds
e. Beta sharing desires
f. Encouragement desires
Taking up space
a. Yard sale
b. Loud conversations
c. Taking long time to get ready when there’s a queue
d. Talking to belayers
Impact on others
a. Smoking
b. Music
c. Screaming performatively on climbs
d. Wobbling
e. Yelling at ppl for waiting for a route you’re currently on
f. Dogs
I hope this conversation sparks conversations of your own with your climber friends!
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Have topics you want us to cover? Email matt@trainingbeta.com or neely@trainingbeta.com

Dec 8, 2022 • 1h 19min
TBP 220 :: Tactics for Sending Long Pumpy Routes with Coach Alex Stiger
In this episode, I talk with Coach Alex Stiger about the tactics she used to send Silky Smooth, 5.13c (8a+) in the Red River Gorge last week without training endurance beforehand. She went into the trip feeling like she had low endurance, in fact, but she used specific tactics to send the route in 7 sessions.
There are a lot of little tips and tricks in this episode, and so many observations that Alex has made over the years about endurance climbing, including:
Maintaining Composure
Breathing
Pump Management
Nailing Sequences instead of Winging It
Eliminating Fear
Managing Discomforts
Increasing Confidence
Having Patience with the Process
Dealing with Cold Weather Climbing
Eating for Cold Weather Pumpy Climbing
We actually spent quite a bit of time talking about making climbing in the cold more tolerable, so if you’re a cold-a-phobe like I used to be, this is a good one to listen to!
I learned some things from this episode, and Alex is really good at calling out issues and then making very relatable, useful suggestions that you can put into practice right away.
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Have questions? Email alex@trainingbeta.com or neely@trainingbeta.com

Nov 16, 2022 • 1h 19min
TBP 219 :: How David Farkas Changed His Nutrition to Improve His Climbing
David Farkas is a 49-year-old climber who works as the Adult Programming Manager at The Front Climbing Club in Salt Lake City, UT. He’s been climbing since 1991, and found himself in a bit of a slump with his climbing and nutrition when he signed up to work with me in 2018.
After working together on his nutrition and him working on his climbing training with various trainers and coaches, he went from climbing 5.10 to 5.12 in about a year, lost some weight he’d been trying to lose, and found that his energy levels were much better. He also found relief with some digestion and skin issues he was having.
In this episode, we talk about the struggles he went through before, during, and after working with me, and what kinds of things we changed about his diet and lifestyle to get him the results he wanted. He was living in a van at the time, so we talk about how to improve your diet even if you don’t have a kitchen of your own.
David is one of my all-time favorite clients, and the results he’s seen are inspirational (but not abnormal when working with nutrition), so I asked him to share his story. I was impressed with his willingness to be vulnerable and honest about his journey, and I hope you love it as much as I did.
Work with Me on Your Nutrition I’m currently taking new clients, and if you’d like to work with me to improve your climbing performance, overall energy levels, digestion, and blood glucose, I’m here for you.
We can do an hour session, a month session, or you can do my self-paced nutrition course: Nourish and add a single session onto that for more personalization.
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Nov 2, 2022 • 30min
TBP 218: Intermittent Fasting and The Keto Diet for Climbers
In this episode, I talk about the pros and cons of the ketogenic diet and intermittent fasting for climbers. In my sessions with clients I often get questions about these very popular diet tactics, so I wanted to lay out in plain terms what I see happen–both good and bad–when climbers try them.
This recording is taken from my Nourish program, which is a self-paced online course I created for climbers to help them change their diet so they can improve their climbing, energy levels, sugar cravings, and digestion. Check out the program here.
Work with Me on Your Nutrition If you’re looking for help with your nutrition and you feel like you need personalized coaching, I can work with you on an hourly or a monthly basis to help you increase your energy levels, improve digestion, and feel more satisfied every day. I also have a course just for climbers that is self-paced with 4+ hours of video from me, PDF’s, and meal plans laid out for you.
LEARN MORE ABOUT MY NUTRITION SERVICES Other Nutrition Episodes TBP 213 :: What to Eat at the Crag for Optimal Performance
TBP 209 :: Calories for Climbing Performance and Body Composition
TBP 190 :: Meal Timing for Climbing Performance and Recovery
TBP 184 :: Carbs for Climbers – How Much, What Kind, Timing, and Why
TBP 175 :: Protein for Climbers 101 – How Much, What Kind, Timing, and Why

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Oct 26, 2022 • 1h 16min
TBP 217 :: Kevin Roet on Climbing Psychology for Optimal Performance
Kevin Roet, a seasoned climbing instructor from the UK, delves into the fascinating world of climbing psychology. He discusses overcoming fears like falling and failure and emphasizes the importance of a growth mindset. Roet breaks down the elusive flow state, explains how performance anxiety can hinder climbers, and highlights the crucial communication between climbers and belayers. Packed with insights from his book, his expertise offers invaluable strategies for climbers looking to enhance their mental game and overall performance.

Oct 19, 2022 • 1h 23min
TBP 216 :: Hazel Findlay on Overcoming the Most Common Fears in Climbing
You may have heard me say that I’ve been doing some mental training coaching with Hazel Findlay this year to help with some fears and mental “blocks.” Well, it’s been so valuable working with her that I wanted to have her on the show to talk about some of the same things we’ve talked about in our sessions together.
Hazel is a 33-year-old professional climber and mental training coach. She made a name for herself at a young age for her bold trad ascents, having been the first British female to send E9 (basically 5.13d but with death fall potential).
She went on to be become the first British female to send 5.14b, and this year she did her first 5.14d (9a). She’s also done a lot of big wall climbing, having done the 3rd ascent of Magic Line (5.14c R, 8c+, E10).
About 7 years ago, she began coaching after completing 2 coaching programs, and she’s been seeing clients ever since. This year she created an online program for climbers, which I took and highly recommend, called Strong Mind. And now, she’s offering the Strong Mind Community, which is an ongoing learning experience for climbers all about mental training.
I wanted to have her on the show to talk about some of the most common things she sees that are holding climbers back mentally. We discuss the ins and outs of fear of falling, fear of failure, and social fears, and how she helps people work through all of them. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did.
Show Links Hazel’s Strong Mind Course
Hazel’s Strong Mind Community
Hazels Instagram @hazel_findlay
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Oct 13, 2022 • 1h 29min
TBP 215: How We’ve Grown as Coaches Over the Years (Matt, Alex, Neely)
In the episode, I sit down with Coaches Matt Pincus and Alex Stiger to discuss how our coaching styles, confidence levels, and tactics with clients have changed over the years. Matt and Alex talk about their practices as climbing coaches and I discuss my practice as a nutrition professional.
Some things we all have in common are that we’re less perfectionistic and rigid in our coaching now than when we first started, and that we focus on different facets of climbing or nutrition now than in years past.
We also go over what we believe to be the most important values of coaching, like professionalism, honesty, and compassion.
We also do a check-in about all of our big fall climbing projects, and some of us are doing better than others… 😉
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Have topics you want us to cover? Email matt@trainingbeta.com, alex@trainingbeta.com, or neely@trainingbeta.com

Sep 29, 2022 • 1h 1min
TBP 214: Matt Pincus’s 4 Most Common Pieces of Advice to Climbers
In this episode, Coach Matt Pincus talks about the most common advice he gives to his climbing coaching clients. He finds that he has really similar converations with many of his clients, so over the years he’s come up with 4 sayings that he elaborates on during client calls. We’re not going to get into the nitty gritty of sets and reps or specific ways to train in this episode, but you will likely find some nuggets that will help you Occam’s razor your climbing and training days.
Show Links Do an hour coaching session with Matt
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Have topics you want us to cover? Email matt@trainingbeta.com or neely@trainingbeta.com
Train with Matt Coach Matt Pincus provides training plans to climbers of all levels from anywhere in the world. If you need help with your climbing strength, power, mental game, skills, or tactics, Matt can help you. He will sit down with you over zoom to find out your goals, your available equipment, and time restrictions and then create a month-long plan for you on the True Coach app.
You’ll have access to Matt via email and the app for however long you work with him. He also offers one-hour consultations if you just want a few questions answered or to help you build your own training program. Find out more at the link below.
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Sep 15, 2022 • 29min
What to Eat at the Crag for Optimal Climbing Performance
In this episode, I talk all about what to eat at the crag and the couple days before going to the crag so that you can have all-day energy and climb hard.
I know it’s tempting to just not eat all day at the crag so you can feel “light” and climb hard, but the truth is that we need food at regular intervals every day, especially when we’re trying to perform athletically at a high level.
So I’ll tell you what foods to pack in with you, what kinds of nutrients to focus on, and how to structure your day so it feels doable to get all the food you need. Not only will this help your performance on that day, but it’ll also help you recover better so you don’t feel like you got hit by a truck the next day.
This is a recording taken from a 5-day nutrition challenge I did in 2020 in front of a live zoom audience. I talked for about 15 minutes on the topic and then took a bunch of questions from the audience (very common questions, so they’re quite relevant).
Nutrition Podcast Episodes in This Series
TBP 209 :: Calories for Climbing Performance and Body Composition
TBP 190 :: Meal Timing for Climbing Performance and Recovery
TBP 184 :: Carbs for Climbers – How Much, What Kind, Timing, and Why
TBP 175 :: Protein for Climbers 101 – How Much, What Kind, Timing, and Why
A Little about Me After completing my Bachelor’s degree in Psychology and Zoology at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, I did a 4-year nutrition certificate program at Seven Bowls School of Nutrition, Nourishment, and Healing. I graduated in 2007 as a Certified Integrative Clinical Nutrition Therapist.
During those 4 years, I learned about not only nutrition, but herbs, homeopathy, and other alternative practices. I’ve been seeing clients since 2007 and I’ve worked exclusively with climbers since 2013.
Nutrition Coaching with Me If you’re looking for help with your own nutrition and you feel like you need personalized coaching, I’m taking new clients right now. I also have a program that is self-paced with 4+ hours of video from me, PDF’s, and meal plans laid out for you.
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Aug 31, 2022 • 55min
TBP 212 :: Dr. Tyler Nelson’s New Insights on the Limits of Fingerboard Training
In this episode, Dr. Tyler Nelson talks about his new insights about the longstanding use of the fingerboard to train finger strength in climbing.
Once again, Tyler pored over the research and wants us all to know that there are limitations to how fingerboard training translates to actual rock climbing. He talks about the physiology of hangboarding and two potentially better ways to train finger strength.
Tyler also wrote an article about this topic, which you can find here.
About Tyler Tyler owns and operates Camp 4 Human Performance, a chiropractic sports medicine clinic and strength & conditioning business in Salt Lake City. While earning his doctoral degree, he completed a dual program Master’s degree in exercise science at the University Of Missouri. While in graduate school he worked with the University of Missouri athletics department and currently is employed through two colleges in Utah.
He is certified through the National Strength and Conditioning Association as a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist and spends any extra time in his life with his wife and 4 kids or trad climbing or bouldering.
You can find Tyler in Salt Lake City at his clinic, Camp 4 Human Performance, where he tests athletes, creates training programs, and treats all kinds of athletes for injuries.
Other Episodes with Tyler TBP 168: New Insights on Finger Training
TBP 162: Dr. Tyler Nelson on Endurance Training for Fingers
TBP 155: Dr. Tyler Nelson on High Volume Power Training
TBP 149: The Different Roles of Stretching for Climbing
TBP 133: The Simplest Finger Training Protocol with Dr. Tyler Nelson
TBP 084: Injury Rehab and Blood Flow Restriction Training
TBP 098: Isometric Movements to Prime and Test Your Body
TBP 108: Bood Flow Restriction for Injury Healing and Performance
TBP 118: Latest Technology for Finger Training and Performance Testing
TBP 128: Surprising Methods for Healing Tendon Injuries
TBP 186 :: Dr. Tyler Nelson’s New Injury Prevention and Warm-Up Protocol
TBP 202: Dr. Tyler Nelson on Finger Injuries in Youth Climbers
Episode Links Article on this same topic
Personal website: camp4humanperformance.com
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Instagram: @c4hp
Facebook: @camp4chiropractic
Learn More from Tyler: If you want to work with Dr. Tyler Nelson on an individual basis for injuries or strength training, he offers remote consultations to people all over the world. He also teaches online classes on strength training and injuries. Learn more.
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