

The TrainingBeta Podcast: A Climbing Training Podcast
Neely Quinn
Hosted by climber, nutritionist, and mindset coach, Neely Quinn, The TrainingBeta Podcast is a regular conversation with rock climbing’s best and brightest, including pro rock climbers, climbing trainers, and other insightful members of the climbing community. You’ll learn how to train for climbing, how to fuel yourself well for climbing, and mindset strategies to help you perform well on the wall and have a great time doing it. Whether you’re a beginner climber or a seasoned pro, you’ll learn something from these conversations, or at the very least, get really stoked to climb and train.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 10min
TBP 301: Three Habits That Have Made Matt and Me Better Climbers
Coach Matt Pincus and I sat down and talked through 3 habits that we have formed over months or years that have led us to become better climbers.
Matt’s 3 Habits
Doing his finger training as part of his warmup for indoor sessions
Having a clear plan/objective for every day out
Questioning why he falls off by asking, “Why?” three to five times
Neely's 3 Habits
My "Three Questions" that keep me in a positive headspace
Continual fall practice
Nudging myself to get on things that intimidate me
Link to Matt's 6-Month Coaching Package - www.trainingbeta.com/matt

Nov 5, 2025 • 1h 12min
TBP 300: Wrist Injury Rehab for Climbers with Dr. Tyler Nelson
Dr. Tyler Nelson came on the show to talk about common wrist injuries and how to rehab them so you can get back to climbing and training how you want to. You may remember that I had wrist surgery on my TFCC and my husband had wrist surgery for ulnar impaction syndrome, so I inject some anecdotal information into the talk, too.
Episode Details
some common wrist injuries
how they happen
what aggravates them in climbing
what you should do about them
specific exercises to heal and strengthen them
how to continue climbing during your injury (when appropriate)
how to get a good diagnosis from a professional
my own experience with a full TFCC tear and my surgery for that
my husband's wrist surgery for ulnar impaction syndrome
Episode Links
Wrist Loading Instagram Post
TFCC Instagram Post
Wrist Pain Rehab Online Course
Camp 4 website: camp4humanperformance.com
Patreon and Podcast: patreon.com/c/C4HP_/home
Take an online class with Tyler: camp4humanperformance.com/store
Do a consultation with Tyler for coaching or an injury
Instagram: @c4hp

Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 21min
TBP 299: Dr. Jared Vagy on Finger Capsulitis
Dr. Jared Vagy, a physical therapist and founder of The Climbing Doctor, dives into the world of capsulitis, a prevalent finger injury among climbers. He explains how it occurs, the symptoms to look for, and how to avoid it. Vagy shares effective treatment strategies, including unloading techniques and mobility tools to help maintain a pain-free range of motion. He emphasizes the importance of strength training and proper rehab protocols. Vagy also discusses how finger anatomy and training methods impact injury risk, offering valuable insights for climbers of all levels.

Oct 1, 2025 • 1h 36min
TBP 298: Enneagram Personality Types in Climbing w/ Becca Droz
The Enneagram is a personality typing method that I’ve been super interested in for a few years now. I try to type all of my friends, my clients, and other people around me to help me understand them better and have more compassion for them. Knowing my own type has helped me have more compassion for myself and to identify areas I want to improve on in my life, in and outside of climbing.
I recently met Becca Droz of sunrise-mindset.com, who is certified as an Enneagram coach, and she’s a climbing coach and guide. She often ends up talking with her clients about what Enneagram type they are and how it shows up for them. I asked her to be on the show to talk about what each of the types looks like in people in general, and how the types show up for us as climbers. We talk in depth about all of the types’ core fears, motivations, strengths, and challenges. We talk a little more extensively about our own types (I am an 8 and she is a 7).
Resources Mentioned
Becca’s website: sunrise-mindset.com
Enneagram Test on Becca’s site: sunrise-mindset.com/enneagramtest
Greece trip with Becca: sunrise-mindset.com/greece
Suzanne Stabile Books on the Enneagram: Amazon list
Suzanne Stabile podcast: The Enneagram Journey
The Enneagram Institute RHETI Test: www.enneagraminstitute.com
Integrative 9 Enneagram Test: www.integrative9.com
Wisdom of the Enneagram Book: Amazon

Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 13min
TBP 297: Overcoming Mental Side of Injuries w/ Jana Unterholzner
Jana Unterholzner has her master’s degree as a Sport and Performance Psychologist and she recently helped create an online course at unblocd.com to guide climbers through mentally recovering from injuries. I asked her to be on the show to talk about some of the tools and information she provides in that course.
In this episode, we both share some of our key experiences going through our own injuries and Jana talks about the following:
Why the mental side of injury matters as much as the physical
How injury recovery can mirror grief in practice
Strategies for working with fear after injury
Why tracking progress makes such a difference
Reframing injury: challenge vs. threat
Building resilience (vs. being born with it)
The role of self-compassion in recovery
Tools for managing negative thoughts
What kind of support actually helps during recovery
Why rehab consistency is tough — and what helps
Growing into someone new, rather than ‘getting back’ to your old self
The people at unblocd.com are offering you a 30% discount on all of their programs, including the new Injury Recovery program, and their mini programs at unblocd.com using the code “TRAININGBETA30” at checkout.

Sep 10, 2025 • 1h 9min
TBP 296: Coaching Session on Fear of Falling and Learning to Try Hard
In this episode I do a full mindset coaching session with Robyn Steuber, a 33-yr-old climber whose main barrier in climbing is her fear of falling and inability to try hard above her bolt. She also struggles with performance anxiety and fear of failing. So I did a complete one-hour session with her, just as I would with any climbing client, and we dissected exactly what she's afraid of and made a plan for her to start overcoming her fears. We discussed fall practice, quantitative ways for her to start learning how to try hard in general (and eventually above her bolt), and I gave her strategies for dealing with the big emotions that come with a stressful day of climbing.
If you want to work with me on your own mental barriers in climbing, visit www.trainingbeta.com/mindset.

Aug 27, 2025 • 1h 32min
TBP 295: Climber & Doctor Katie O'Brien on Perimenopause: Hormone Replacement Therapy, Nutrition, Supplements
Dr. Katie O'Brien is a functional medicine doctor who specializes in perimenopause, and in this episode she goes into great detail about what perimenopause is and how to navigate it with hormones, supplements, nutrition, and lifestyle choices so you can continue climbing hard in your late 30's, 40's and beyond.
This episode is not just for perimenopausal women! This is for everyone so that you, as a woman, can be sure you recognize signs and symptoms of perimenopause when they happen (and know what to do about them), and so that you, as a man, can help advocate for the women in your life. This is crucial for every woman's health and happiness. I hope you get a lot out of this conversation :)
Dr. Katie's new supplement FemmeMD - get 20% off with code friends20: https://shop.femme-md.com/

Aug 20, 2025 • 1h 16min
Neely Quinn on The Struggle Climbing Show Talking about Perfectionism in Climbing
Ryan Devlin invited Neely Quinn (the host of The TrainingBeta Podcast) to be on his podcast, The Struggle Climbing Show, to talk about perfectionism in climbing. Neely talks about common symptoms of perfectionism in climbers, how it can hold people back, and how it's actually kind of a super power. She also did some coaching on Ryan to help him enjoy climbing a little bit more, instead of being so intent on constantly achieving big things in his climbing. Ryan kindly shared this recording of the interview with Neely to share on this podcast, but it was originally published on The Struggle Climbing Show, which you should definitely check out.

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Aug 6, 2025 • 1h 18min
TBP 294 :: Nutrition Session with Climber for Sugar Cravings and Weight Gain
Katelin Hollowell joins as a guest, sharing her struggles with sugar cravings and weight gain as a climber. She undergoes a detailed nutrition session, receiving tailored advice on meal planning and managing cravings. The discussion dives into the challenges of balancing nutrition with an active lifestyle and the importance of macronutrient distribution for optimal performance. Insights on mindful eating and practical strategies to curb sugar cravings round out this engaging conversation, offering a wealth of tips for both climbers and fitness enthusiasts.

Jul 23, 2025 • 1h 14min
TBP 293: Sport Psychologist Kat Lumby Uses REBT to Deal with Fear in Climbing
Kat Lumby is a Sport and Exercise Psychologist in Training (SEPiT) out of Wales, UK who works with all kinds of athletes, especially climbers and surfers. She has been a climbing coach for many years and has been able to take her skills to the next level with her SEPiT education. In this episode she talks about the specific kind of therapy she uses with athletes to deal with fear (and other barriers to performance). It’s called Rational Emotion Behavioral Therapy (REBT), and she will literally take you through the “ABC’s” of this modality.
She also does a quick therapy session with me during the interview where we talk about my fear of falling. We come to some pretty great insights, which I’ve been using ever since in my climbing sessions. We also talk about some research she did on climbers and how you can put this kind of concrete thinking to use in your own climbing.
You can work with Kat Lumby as your coach or your sport psychologist at labyrinthclimbing.co.uk.


