
Doctors of Running Podcast
We are Doctors of Running, a group of doctors of physical therapy all working to provide you all with information about the art and science of running and what we are putting on our feet. In this podcast we will be giving evidence-based deep dives into running related topics as well as detailed running shoe reviews. You can also check us out at our website -- doctorsofrunning.com, and on social media @doctorsofrunning
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Latest episodes

Aug 7, 2024 • 40min
#203 The Best NON-Plated Workout Shoes Right Now, and the Pros and Cons to Using them Over Carbon
Between super racing shoes and super trainers, it seems like half the shoes on the market have super foams and/or carbon plates. But, what if spending too much time in these maximally performing, fun shoes, might be doing us a disservice? Matt and David look into the research and share anecdotes from their own training on how super shoes have affected them. Then they take a look at some of the excellent non-plated, lightweight trainer options like the New Balance Rebel v4, Topo Cyclone 2, and more.
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:04 - The pros/cons of training in plated & super shoes
14:14 - Topo Cyclone 2
16:52 - Kinvara 15
19:36 - ASICS Tri Noosa 16
22:51 - New Balance Rebel v4
24:37 - Hoka Mach 6
26:52 - Brooks Hyperion
30:50 - Saucony Ride 17
33:56 - Wrap-up

Jul 31, 2024 • 37min
#202 More Toebox Please: We Rank Shoes By Uppers and Talk About the Differences from Runner to Runner in Fit
This episode is all about uppers. Often the more overlooked part of running shoes, uppers can make or break the running experience. Nathan and David get together to rank ten shoes from Hoka, Altra, Saucony, ASICS, Topo, and more from 10-1 on upper fit for them. They also explore what components make an upper and how to find the best fit for you.
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:47 - What is a shoe's upper?
6:05 - Tier 4 uppers
14:53 - Tier 3 uppers
22:32 - Tier 2 uppers
27:34 - Tier 1 uppers
34:04 - Wrap-up

Jul 24, 2024 • 56min
#201 Inside the New Brooks Hyperion Lineup: Why was the Hyperion Max Redesigned? What is DNA Flash Exactly? and How Stability is Approached in Neutral Designs
On this episode, Andrea is joined by long time friend of the pod, Tina Danforth, Footwear Product Line Manager for Brooks Running. They take a deep dive into Brooks's latest updates to their Hyperion line, specifically the Hyperion 2, Hyperion Max 2, and Hyperion Elite 4. Tina breaks down the specific science of their foams (DNA Flash & DNA Loft) and how they formulate them for different uses. They also take a look at the upcoming Ghost Max 2, an update to the massively popular debut.
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
4:12 - Big updates in the Hyperion line of shoes
6:14 - The difference between DNA Flash & DNA Loft foams
8:16 - How DNA Flash has evolved
10:51 - Geometry & design updates on the Hyperion Max 2
15:30 - The new Hyperion Elite 4
18:33 - What's new for the Hyperion 2
29:52 - Building stability into the Hyperion line
32:14 - What's coming from Brooks in 2025
35:48 - How Brooks creates its foams
42:30 - Updates to the Ghost Max 2
48:04 - Brooks' approach to stability
52:56 - How Brooks' design philosophy has evolved over the years
54:40 - Wrap-up

Jul 17, 2024 • 1h 15min
#200 Mailbag Special! 1000+ Mile Shoes? Building Our Dream Shoe, Our Running Celebrity Bestie, and If This Shoe Were a…
It's the 200th episode of the Doctors of Running Podcast! For this milestone episode we've put together a mailbag from some of our favorite running-world friends like Connor Blalock (Running Warehouse), Elisabeth Scott (Running Explained), Victoria Sekely (Train Smart Run Strong), and more! Nathan, Matt, and David get together to tackle their questions about dream running celebrity friends, 1000mi shoes, the future of racing shoes, and so much more. We're so thankful for each one of you for supporting and following along with our work for this long, and we're looking forward to the next 200 episodes!
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
5:57 - If you could hang out with any running celebrity, who would it be?
12:10 - If you worked in the run industry, who would you work for?
18:14 - Will we ever see shoes last 1000+ miles?
24:28 - What does the average runner put up with in their shoes that could be better?
32:00 - Are shoes in the style of old racing flats gone for good?
43:23 - What type of "support" doesn't exist that should?
46:34 - Do you see any new future limits on race-legal shoes?
49:17 - If you could relate your personality to any running shoe, what would it be?
55:42 - How would you assemble your dream shoe?
1:03:40 - What would you like to see DOR do in the next 200 episodes of the podcast, and in the next 2 years in general?
1:11:33 - If the ASICS Superblast 2 was an NBA player, who would it be?
1:14:28 - Wrap-up

Jul 10, 2024 • 1h 14min
#199 What Makes Super Shoes “Super” and Interpreting Results for Individuals with Dr. Wouter Hoogkamer (Researcher, Leader of The 4% Study)
On this episode, Nathan and Matt have the privilege of interviewing Dr. Wouter Hoogkamer about his research on super shoes and how they affect running performance. They discuss what makes a super shoe "super" (the plate, the geometry, the foam, or all three?). They also discuss Wouter's latest writing and research on getting the best results from running research trials. They get Wouter's take on training in super trainers/plated shoes and how they may effect biomechanics. Be sure to listen to this fascinating discussion on super shoes and research!
Dr. Wouter Hoogkamer is a researcher focusing on biomechanics and energetics of human locomotion and running. He currently leads the UMASS Integrative Motion Lab. If you’ve been in the running shoe space, and are listening to this podcast you likely have heard of one of his most “famous” studies colloquially known as “The 4% Study”, which looked at the original Nike Vaporfly and produced results that gave the shoe it’s name. Beyond research, he is a runner and ultra-runner himself and was the founder of the Trail Ultra Mountain Alliance.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
3:40 - The Subjective: what's your favorite super shoe?
8:01 - Wouter's article: The Fallacy of Single Trials
15:33 - Structuring research to achieve more confident results
18:47 - Accounting for variabilty in trial results
21:38 - Defining physiological drift
26:44 - The risks of using single trials
38:10 - Wouter's definition of super shoes
41:40 - The roles of plates, foams, and geometries in super shoes
55:10 - Wouter's take on super trainers and training in plated shoes
1:06:36 - Why do some respond to certain shoes and not others?
1:12:07 - Wrap-up

Jul 3, 2024 • 1h 5min
#198 All about Foot Injuries and a Review of the ASICS Superblast 2
As any runner knows, injuries are all too common. On this episode, Nate & David look to bring some education and aid if you've got a foot injury. They look at the anatomy of the foot, common pathologies, and more. Tune in for some practical strategies for minimizing your injury risk and assessing & gaining mobility. On the back half of the show, they review the brand new ASICS Superblast 2, an update to one of our team's favorite shoes.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
8:22 - Keys to injury prevention
14:50 - Tips for at-home mobility work
22:59 - The anatomy of foot injuries
31:41 - Common foot injuries
36:22 - Diagnosing & treating different foot injuries
43:32 - Asics Superblast 2 Review
54:50 - Is the Superblast worth the high cost?
59:24 - Superblast vs. On Cloudmonster Hyper
1:03:34 - Wrap-up
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Jun 26, 2024 • 28min
#197 A Guide to Shoe Cushioning: Compliance, Resilience, and How it Influences Your Joints and Muscles
This podcast delves into the complexities of shoe cushioning for runners, discussing factors like compliance, resilience, biomechanics, and injury risk. It explores the benefits of rotating shoes with different midsoles and highlights the importance of finding the right balance for each individual.

Jun 19, 2024 • 54min
#196 Best Daily Running Shoes of 2024 So Far, Part 2 (And Andrea & David's Favorite Racing Shoes Right Now!)
It's time for the second part of our favorite shoes of 2024 so far! David and Andrea join in with their picks for daily trainer, performance trainer, and racing shoes of the year to date. They also pick their favorite 2023 models that are on sale at a discount. Let us know what you've loved this year! DM us on Instagram or email us at doctorsofrunningpodcast@gmail.com.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:20 - Favorite daily trainer
15:18 - Favorite performance trainer
24:34 - Favorite racing shoes
44:11 - Favorite 2023 shoe that's on sale
51:18 - Wrap-up

Jun 12, 2024 • 37min
#195 The Best Trainers of 2024 So Far, Part 1 (And What Makes a Super Trainer? New Thoughts!)
We're just about halfway through 2024 so it's time to take a look at our favorite shoes of the year so far! Matt & Nathan get together to break down their favorite trainers: daily, max-stack, lightweight/speed, and best value. They also discuss how our definition of "supertrainer" is changing as more and more brands come out with their versions. We want to hear from you! What's been your favorite shoe(s) of the year so far? What are you looking forward to for the back half of the year? DM us on Instagram or email us at doctorsofrunningpodcast@gmail.com.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:58 - What defines a supertrainer?
10:02 - Favorite daily trainers
16:56 - Favorite max-stack shoes
21:08 - Favorite lightweight training shoes
30:28 - Best value shoes
35:44 - Wrap-up

Jun 5, 2024 • 57min
#194 This or That? Triumph 22 vs. Superblast, Max Cushion vs. Supertrainers, Zero Drop vs. Low Drop, Insoles or Stability Shoes?
In this episode, the DOR team engages in a fun 'this or that' segment discussing tough choices like Triumph 22 vs. Superblast, supertrainers, insoles vs. stability shoes, Elliptigo vs. cycling, and more. They talk about niche shoe brands diversifying, PR vs. injury, and group vs. solo runs. Gels vs. high-calorie drinks are also debated, along with the benefits of running shoe stores vs. online reviews.