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Excess Returns
Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.
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Dec 28, 2025 • 1h 3min
The Truth No One Sees | 41 Great Investors Share Their Most Controversial Belief
Join financial historian Jim Grant and Chief Investment Strategist Liz Ann Sonders as they break down controversial beliefs in investing. Grant argues fervently that gold will always reclaim its status as money, challenging the fiat currency narrative. Meanwhile, Sonders shares her skepticism towards year-end price targets, advocating for blue-chip dividend strategies instead. Their insights push the boundaries of conventional investing wisdom, making for a thought-provoking discussion on risk and market behavior.

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Dec 26, 2025 • 57min
The Base Case is Wrong | Paul Eitelman on AI, Reacceleration and the Pause No One Sees
Join Paul Eitelman, Global Chief Investment Strategist at Russell Investments, as he reveals why 2026 might be a pivotal year for the economy. He discusses the transition from resilience to reacceleration in the U.S. economy and how AI is shifting from buzz to tangible returns, potentially reshaping industries. Paul also highlights the fading tariffs and immigration constraints, while pinpointing macroeconomic signals that suggest broadening market leadership beyond tech giants. Emphasizing the importance of diversification and staying invested, he provides insights for savvy investors.

Dec 24, 2025 • 58min
Nothing Has a Right to Exist in Your Portfolio | What the Last 15 Years Has Taught Us
Hosts dive into the disruption of modern portfolio theory over the last 15 years, questioning traditional market assumptions. There's a fascinating debate on the 'Sell America' narrative influenced by fund manager surveys. Gold emerges as a hot topic, outperforming other assets and drawing comparisons with Bitcoin. They also tackle the challenges of diversified portfolios amid concentrated benchmarks, advising on how to handle client emotions around gold and crypto. Finally, expect a mix of holiday cheer as they share light-hearted personal traditions and movie favorites.

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Dec 21, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Existential Spending Battle | Adrian Helfert on What You’re Missing in the AI Arms Race
Adrian Helfert, an investment professional at Westwood known for his expertise in portfolio construction, joins the discussion to dissect the impact of AI on investing. He explores how AI-driven capital spending is reshaping return profiles and presents a framework for portfolio construction. Adrian discusses the dual nature of AI as both opportunity and risk, the debate over market concentration, and challenges traditional recession indicators. He also suggests a rethink of the classic 60/40 portfolio and emphasizes the importance of tactical international diversification.

Dec 19, 2025 • 1h 19min
The Precarity Line | Ben Hunt and Adam Butler on the Broken Math of the American Dream
In this discussion, Adam Butler and Ben Hunt tackle the complex issue of economic precarity versus poverty. Butler, an investment professional and author, argues for a shift in focus from traditional poverty metrics to what people actually experience in their daily lives. They explore the role of debt, housing, and childcare in heightening economic insecurity, and critique the ways tech narratives dismiss emotional realities. They also delve into the impact of labor mobility, intergenerational support, and policy debates, urging a re-evaluation of solutions in an unstable economic landscape.

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Dec 17, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Alpha No Human Can Find | David Wright on Machine Learning's Hidden Edge
David Wright, Head of Quantitative Investing at Pictet Asset Management, specializes in machine learning for investment strategies. He discusses how AI and machine learning enhance stock forecasting with features and decision trees. David contrasts machine learning with large language models, highlighting the importance of interpretability. He explains the role of human judgment in portfolio management and the necessity of robust data selection. Ultimately, he shares insights on feature construction, preventing overfitting, and the ideal investment horizons for machine learning.

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Dec 15, 2025 • 1h 13min
The 100 Year Thinkers | Chris Mayer and Robert Hagstrom on the Dangers of Abstraction
Join Robert Hagstrom, a value investing guru and author, alongside Chris Mayer, a long-term stock selection expert, as they dive into how Wall Street's labels mislead investors. They explore the pitfalls of simplistic market models and advocate for clearer language and better mental frameworks. Discover the power of general semantics in investing, the importance of patience in yielding returns, and why focusing on business fundamentals trumps daily market noise. Learn to navigate the complexities of investing with interdisciplinary insights!

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Dec 13, 2025 • 1h 10min
Magnet Above. Trap Door Below | Inside the Options Flows Driving Markets with Brent Kochuba
Brent Kochuba, founder of Spot Gamma and an expert in options flow analysis, dives into the intricate workings of the market as December's options expiration approaches. He discusses the dramatic growth in options activity since 2020 and how it influences daily market moves. Kochuba highlights the significance of December OPEX, forecasting it could be the largest ever. He also explores the interplay between volatility patterns, the potential for a Santa Claus rally, and the effects of significant earnings on market dynamics.

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Dec 11, 2025 • 50min
He Was Overweight Tech for 15 Years. He Just Downgraded the Mag Seven | Ed Yardeni Explains Why
Ed Yardeni, a renowned economist and market strategist, discusses his recent decision to downgrade the Magnificent 7 stocks, highlighting the risks of tech concentration. He explores the impact of AI on productivity and economic resilience, arguing that the economy has avoided recession despite various shocks. Yardeni shares insights on escalating competition in tech and the implications of heavy AI capital expenditure on margins. He also provides a bullish S&P 500 forecast, predicting growth up to 10,000 by 2029.

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Dec 10, 2025 • 1h 1min
Why Most Investors Won't Buy the Best Diversifier | Andrew Beer on Managed Futures
Andrew Beer, an expert in managed futures and hedge fund replication, shares valuable insights on how these strategies can act as a powerful diversifier for investors. He explains that managed futures work like a 'cloudy crystal ball,' predicting macro trends. Beer highlights their low correlation to traditional assets, making them crucial during market stress. He advocates for simplicity over complexity in investment strategies, outlining the benefits of model portfolios and the importance of clear client communication. He also discusses current smart-money positioning and the potential for mainstream adoption of managed futures.


