
Liminal Phrames
Liminal Phrames is a podcast dedicated to the exploration of the meaning-making models we form around UFOs, contact with non-human intelligence, and paranormal experience. Not only do experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and high strangeness challenge conventional notions of reality, but they force us to venture into new territory altogether, pioneering a new framing of the real with blurred lines and indistinct categories. Hard answers may be hard to come by here, but on Liminal Phrames, Darren King (ExoAcademian) and Nathan are fully invested in asking these most intriguing of questions.
Latest episodes

13 snips
Dec 1, 2024 • 1h 32min
063 - Reaching Beyond the Construct
The hosts dive into the idea that our reality might be a simulation, sparked by a DMT experiment revealing astonishing visions. They reflect on personal growth and the power of deep observation in relationships. Exploring consciousness, perception, and quantum physics, the conversation raises intriguing philosophical questions about existence. The idea of interconnected lifetimes challenges traditional beliefs, inviting listeners to examine the impact of their actions across different realities.

Nov 10, 2024 • 1h 28min
062 - Telepathy & Mind at Large
The hosts dive into the emotional aftermath of a devastating storm in Asheville and its political implications. They examine the fascinating discourse around UFOs, transparency, and civic activism. The intriguing documentary 'The Telepathy Tapes' raises questions about telepathy and non-speaking autistic individuals. A groundbreaking experiment reveals extraordinary communication abilities of a non-verbal child, challenging conventional views on intelligence. Personal stories highlight the deep connections within families of nonverbal children, fostering greater societal understanding.

Oct 20, 2024 • 1h 34min
061 - War, Peace & the Possibility Space
The hosts kick off with a vibrant celebration of seasonal changes, sharing personal stories that resonate with community resilience. They explore shifting narratives in ufology, challenging fear-based perspectives with tales of hope. Discussions delve into the complex ties between UFOs, the military-industrial complex, and media myths, unveiling hidden influences on public perception. A multidisciplinary approach emerges as essential for understanding both human experiences and non-human intelligences, urging new collaborations to tackle the unknown.

Sep 8, 2024 • 1h 32min
060 - Imminence & Transcendence
In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan delve into Lue Elizondo's book Imminent, considering its impact on expanding the cultural conversation around UAP and NHI. Also addressed is the threat vs. no-threat debate that has arisen since the book's publication.

Aug 18, 2024 • 1h 30min
059 - Phenomenology & Demonology
The idea that NHI are demonic entities is seemingly ever-present in both ufological circles and even within the government. In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore: How did we get here? How did the modern notion of demons arise to begin with?

Jul 28, 2024 • 1h 32min
058 - Deconstructing into Conscious Expansion
The hosts share personal stories about seasonal changes affecting their emotions. They delve into how societal beliefs about extraterrestrial life are evolving, challenging traditional views. The conversation explores the complexities of understanding non-human intelligences and the implications for humanity's self-view. They examine the limitations of language in discussing reality and advocate for a nuanced perspective on spirituality. The dynamic between hosts and listeners is highlighted, promoting a collective journey towards deeper understanding.

Jul 7, 2024 • 1h 32min
057 - Getting to the Crux of the Matter
Explore UFO phenomenon as a gateway to consciousness; merging ancient wisdom with modern perspectives; transforming reality through energy; shaping reality with source connection; navigating challenges for growth and transformation.

Jun 1, 2024 • 1h 30min
056 - Meaning, Time & Synchronicity
Exploring synchronicity, UFO disclosure, and spiritual journeys, hosts delve into mind-bending experiences and deep reflections on reality shifts. With insights on Lue Elizondo's book, market preparation for UFO revelations, and the interconnectedness of beings through meditation, this episode offers a thought-provoking exploration of meaningful connections and personal growth.

May 19, 2024 • 1h 30min
055 - Navigating an Evolving Realityscape
Exploring recent UAP developments and controlled disclosure at the Salt Conference. Legislative efforts for UFO truth, sightings at Eglin Air Force Base, and the dynamics of government legislation. Discussions on book releases, safety concerns for whistleblowers, and credibility in UFO lore.

May 5, 2024 • 1h 32min
054 - The Rabbit-holing of Reality
Exploring disruptive truths underlying the UFO phenomenon, from UFO disclosure skepticism to the deaths of Boeing whistleblowers. Challenging beliefs about alien life and navigating tough choices for the greater good, this podcast dives into the complexities of reality itself.