
Liminal Phrames
Liminal Phrames is a podcast dedicated to the exploration of the meaning-making models we form around UFOs, contact with non-human intelligence, and paranormal experience. Not only do experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and high strangeness challenge conventional notions of reality, but they force us to venture into new territory altogether, pioneering a new framing of the real with blurred lines and indistinct categories. Hard answers may be hard to come by here, but on Liminal Phrames, Darren King (ExoAcademian) and Nathan are fully invested in asking these most intriguing of questions.
Latest episodes

Apr 21, 2024 • 1h 31min
053 - Embracing the Complex Unknown
Exploring the challenges of UAP disclosure and the power of communal experiences. Discussing perceptions of extraterrestrial intelligence and the complexities of information sharing. Delving into unidentified drones near sensitive airspace and embracing the complexity of extraterrestrial discourse.

Apr 7, 2024 • 1h 29min
052 - Degrees of Disclosure
The hosts discuss controlled vs. catastrophic disclosure, the implications of UFO disclosure on society and global power dynamics, artistic responses to extraterrestrial encounters, and the need for transparency in addressing pressing global issues.

Mar 24, 2024 • 1h 29min
051 - Mass Sightings & Collective Consciousness
Delving into mass sightings, the podcast covers the Miracle at Fatima and the Phoenix Lights incident. It also explores recent UFO developments, USOs, crash retrieval programs, and global challenges. The hosts unravel mysteries and discuss the implications of these events on collective consciousness and UFO discourse.

Mar 10, 2024 • 1h 37min
050 - Awakening Within the Dream
In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan take a deep dive into Bernardo Kastrup's Meaning in Absurdity, a book that offers a compellingly fresh take not just on the high strangeness associated with UFOs and faerie lore, but on the ultimate nature of reality itself.

Feb 25, 2024 • 1h 36min
049 - Tracing the Origins of UFO Intelligence
In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan outline the various hypotheses put forward to explain the UFO Phenomenon, and delve deeply into Vallée and Davis' "Incommensurability, Orthodoxy and the Physics of High Strangeness" paper.

Feb 10, 2024 • 1h 29min
048 - Engaging with the Unknown
In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the larger opportunities coming online, including revelations that speak not just to the reality of non-human intelligence in our midst, but to an eclipsing way of seeing who we are and how we play a participatory role in a complex, always unfolding and intrinsically conscious reality.

Jan 27, 2024 • 1h 33min
047 - The Potential for Transformation
In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan catch up on recent governmental engagement with the UFO Phenomenon, while asking larger questions about the overarching potential this moment of deconstruction represents.

Jan 7, 2024 • 1h 36min
046 - Of Conventions & Constructs
In this episode, Darren and Nathan take a deep dive into how revelations arising from related fields such as ufology and parapsychology point to an emerging shift in our fundamental understanding of reality, and to our place within it.

Dec 23, 2023 • 1h 29min
045 - Grappling with a Reality Re-Write
Exploring the anticipation and anxiety in American politics for 2023 and 2024 elections, intertwined with UFO revelations. Discussing the challenge of fitting UFO experiences into existing paradigms. Examining the importance of questioning established beliefs and embracing new realities in the face of unconventional phenomena. Delving into different perceptions of reality, genetic differences in psychic capacity, and extraterrestrial models spliced with Earth species. Emphasizing finding meaning beyond hard facts through Zen Buddhism and encounters with alien beings, hinting at spiritual growth and connection with the universe.

Dec 2, 2023 • 1h 35min
044 - Beyond the UFO Phenomenon
Exploring congressional actions for UFO disclosure, academic engagement with the phenomenon, challenges of controlled vs catastrophic disclosure, legislative process of UAP disclosure act, complexities of panel creation, personal experiences with synchronicities and anomalous phenomena, shifting perspectives on experiential knowledge, and reflections on personal growth and collaborative exploration.