
Liminal Phrames
Liminal Phrames is a podcast dedicated to the exploration of the meaning-making models we form around UFOs, contact with non-human intelligence, and paranormal experience. Not only do experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and high strangeness challenge conventional notions of reality, but they force us to venture into new territory altogether, pioneering a new framing of the real with blurred lines and indistinct categories. Hard answers may be hard to come by here, but on Liminal Phrames, Darren King (ExoAcademian) and Nathan are fully invested in asking these most intriguing of questions.
Latest episodes

Jul 12, 2025 • 1h 27min
073 - A Retrospective of Recent Ufological History
In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan take a retrospective journey across the terrain ufology has traversed since 2017—including the most recent, rather contentious, claim that the Tic Tac may represent the fruit of reverse-engineered technology.

Jun 22, 2025 • 1h 29min
072 - Identifying a Metaphysical Meta-signal
In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan break down different notions of the UFO Phenomenon from the perspective of a plural ontology. Also addressed is the deeper meta-signal that each these experiences ultimately point towards.

May 25, 2025 • 1h 29min
071 - Consciousness Looping Through Time
Explore the life cycle of cicadas and the anticipation of summer adventures. Journey into mystical experiences and paranormal phenomena at a MUFON event. Investigate the implications of Congress meetings delayed by illness amidst skepticism. Dive into the intricate connections between technological misinformation and political influence on UFO disclosures. Debate the complexities of the UFO community's reactions to new documentaries and the nature of reality. Finally, unravel the intertwining of consciousness and AI, reshaping our understanding of time and existence.

May 4, 2025 • 1h 29min
070 - Nearing a Disclosure Turning Point
In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan delve into a bonanza of recent revelations, including the deathbed confessions of presidential advisor Harald Malmgren, the consequential claims of two new whistleblowers, and a congressional briefing on "Understanding UAP".

Apr 12, 2025 • 1h 31min
069 - With Eyes to the Skies
In this episode of Liminal Phames, Darren/Exo and Nathan delve into recent developments in ufology, including Skywatcher's data capture and analysis, the revelation of recent tic tac sightings, and a new long-form interview with the firebrand that is Steven Greer.

Mar 23, 2025 • 1h 27min
068 - Taking the Temperature of Disclosure
In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan take the temperature of ufology and the disclosure process. Is the new political climate more transparent? How significant is Grusch's advising of Congressman Burlison directly? Does psionics make disclosure ours for the taking?

Mar 2, 2025 • 1h 29min
067 - A Revelation of Conscious Simulations
In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan dive into matters including: recovered NHI described as 'biological robots'; 'conscious' UAP craft; key figures contacted by 'AI from the future'; time loops; the simulation-like nature of our reality and 'digital physics'.

Feb 8, 2025 • 1h 29min
066 - UAP & Metaphysical Meanderings
In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the degree to which the so-called "woo" aspects of the UFO Phenomenon have landed in prime time, forcing a reckoning by public and private parties alike.

Jan 18, 2025 • 1h 28min
065 - Extraordinary Evidence & Inflection Points
In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the recent influx of whistleblowers, including first-hand witnesses, who are pushing us ever closer to an inflection point that sees ufology enter the mainstream.

Dec 28, 2024 • 1h 30min
064 - The Colliding & Collapsing of Worldviews
In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the recent incursions, asking: is this NHI? And, if so, how might assimilation unfold if the intensity grows? And how might labels like "angels" and "aliens" collapse upon the encountering of a more expansive and integrated view of reality?